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00:00:04
no.
00:00:25
And with that, we welcome you back into SportsCastr news, of course, covering all things N b A.
00:00:30
With myself out of Marin break, joined by the man, The myth, the legend Keith McPherson on a Monday morning Busy, busy weekend busy in general in sports right now, obviously MLB playoffs.
00:00:41
Unfortunately for local for US local, The Yankees fell to the Tampa Bay Rays there as they moved on in the playoffs to the next round.
00:00:49
But a lot.
00:00:50
A lot of action, and maybe this almost gets swept under the NFL rug.
00:00:53
But late last night, well, well, maybe you were watching the Dallas Cowboys in New York football giants wrap up their games.
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You're right on the cost off Lakers.
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He kicking off in Game six, where the Lakers just really come out and do kind of what we thought.
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Maybe they were going to do from the jump in this game.
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What you saw a lot more of in Games one and two absolutely pummeled the heat.
00:01:16
It was not nearly as close as the 106 93 final scoreline 17th title for the Los Angeles Lakers.
00:01:23
How did feel to you, Keith was it? Was it fun? Watch where you'd all disappointed that it wasn't, um or intense game? No, I needed this.
00:01:31
This one Exactly as I thought.
00:01:33
Lakers in six.
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I actually said Lakers in five or six.
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Gentlemen, sweep.
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Or maybe for TV.
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And just to get that Sunday night weekend game, it goes six.
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And it did.
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I was watching football.
00:01:48
I obviously was watching the baseball, but I was tuned in for LeBron.
00:01:52
I wanted to see the Lakers get it done.
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LeBron get the chip.
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Get M v P.
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I wanted to see the Lakers organization, except there's 17 title, putting them at the top all time with the Celtics.
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I loved it.
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Um, LeBron man, LeBron said what he had to say out there.
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And he did.
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We had to do out there a d right away with the defense.
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Rondo deciding.
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Hey, I'm gonna come off the bench and give you all buckets because you might not be expecting this, but we're needing this after the last game.
00:02:21
The Lakers just imposed their will.
00:02:23
They establish their dominance right away, and this game was over so fast and the party started so early.
00:02:29
Congrats, toe the Los Angeles Lakers mama mentality.
00:02:33
They came out.
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I feel like a little bit stronger because they didn't win in those mama jerseys in Game five.
00:02:40
They sent the message right away and this one and I enjoyed it.
00:02:43
Yeah, I mean, listen, you say it right? Like it just it.
00:02:46
A switch was flipped to use the cliche where they came out with a defensive intensity and you were hearing throughout the broadcast off.
00:02:53
They completely took Miami out of whatever energy and whatever sink they had on the offensive end.
00:03:00
They took it to him on the defensive side as well.
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When you talk about Anthony Davis, you this what you want.
00:03:04
You want that 11 defensive rebounds, coming away with a couple of blocks, 15 rebounds overall and kicking in 19 points.
00:03:11
LeBron James goes ahead and gives you another triple double, because that's what he likes to do when it comes to the finals.
00:03:16
Just a complete performance by this team and that man really, like Rondo has made ah case for himself that he is far from done Now.
00:03:24
He's not gonna be a guy that you're going to get long stretches out of during the regular season.
00:03:28
But the fact that when you look in this game, we're not gonna do too much here as far as the game is concerned in the box score.
00:03:33
But when you looked at this and you saw a very small performance from Caruso, who gets inserted into the starting lineup really for defensive purposes.
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So the Lakers go really small here.
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They take Dwight Howard out of the starting lineup and rotate everybody up in terms of the positions on the court.
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But then you didn't have.
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You didn't have a big showing from anybody on that bench.
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Except for Rondo.
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Eight of 11 3 or four from Deep really gave you that veteran type of game.
00:03:57
Got inside, got a couple easy buckets in and around the hoop is well, so it was a great overall performance from the Lakers.
00:04:03
And listen, even in a bad game, you could say for the Miami Heat, all those stat lines are still there.
00:04:09
Like all the guys in the starting lineup still got there is this is just really felt like a serious where you're coming into it that the as you say, gentlemen, sweep.
00:04:16
Maybe it gets to six.
00:04:17
Everybody kind of thought You're outmatched that so many different spots here, even just from the size standpoint.
00:04:22
So you kind of expected this to be the result, happy that at least got a couple of really exciting games and a couple of triple double performances from Jimmy Butler on that side of things.
00:04:31
This officially marks the fourth title for one LeBron James, his fourth NBA Finals, M v P Award as well.
00:04:39
In this in the Western Conference, you had two guys in LeBron James and Kawhi Leonard that we're both in pursuit of the same goal this year.
00:04:46
Winning a third title with a third team are winning three titles.
00:04:50
Excuse me with three teams, obviously fourth for LeBron James, and he's able to do it, you know.
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He also averaged 25 points now in in the finals for three different teams as well.
00:04:59
Like a lot of a lot of stat padding here from a career standpoint for LeBron James.
00:05:04
What does it mean? Just 13 winning a championship with them and also the finals MVPs? That talk was out there about could a d be worthy of the M V p.
00:05:13
And as this Siri's moved along, it very quickly seemed to shift over to know this is still LeBron's team.
00:05:19
This is still Iran's league.
00:05:21
The Revenge tour.
00:05:23
The revenge season is complete for the washed king.
00:05:27
LeBron LeBron finishes second again in the M V P voting this year.
00:05:32
It takes that personal.
00:05:33
You know he's going to go get that finals.
00:05:35
M v p first two games after, you know, we see the final start, people start talking a maybe a d maybe a D.
00:05:43
But those guys who spoke so much about how they don't have any ego, how they have a partnership, their brothers, you know, they just want to see each other do well.
00:05:51
And man LeBron James, when you're looking at this championship, I think as time goes on, I watch some stuff this morning with, you know, the MBA, TV people talking about it.
00:06:01
I think what people are going to realize is that this championship is the most unique championship we've ever seen in the NBA.
00:06:08
They've never had this AU type set up in the MBA.
00:06:11
They never had this almost like lock down.
00:06:14
MBA player locked down where all the players air right here.
00:06:17
We're talking about LeBron.
00:06:19
James is the goat.
00:06:20
LeBron couldn't go to Atlantic City to get a break in between Game four and five.
00:06:25
LeBron E couldn't roll a couple of dice there just to take the edge off a little LeBron couldn't go and, uh, you know, get away from basketball at all to get this title and, man, these guys all had to buy in.
00:06:39
I think about one Avery Bradley, who decided that it wasn't something he wanted to buy into, and he decided to handle business out in the real world, which I commend.
00:06:49
But then you look at these guys that decided to actually buy in and and commit to this, you know, July August September October 4 months in this bubble to get the ultimate prize.
00:07:01
I love it for LeBron it being his fourth ring, his third different franchise that he's brought to a championship.
00:07:07
Just think about that right.
00:07:10
Cleveland, Miami and Lakers fans all celebrate LeBron James for bringing them a championship.
00:07:16
You know, Chicago celebrates Michael Jordan for bringing him a championship, and that's are bringing them, bringing them six championships, and that's great.
00:07:25
But in a whole different scope.
00:07:27
LeBron has put three different franchises on top, he said in his postgame.
00:07:32
Hey, I just want my **** respect to, and I think we've got to really give that guy his respect.
00:07:37
I know it's going to go on forever, and I love that we have a different Cipto.
00:07:41
Add to the conversation that, hey, this bubble Jordan witness survived a no bubble.
00:07:47
Well, yeah, right.
00:07:48
Well, that's, you know, it's so funny because in the postgame press, in the postgame comments, I'll say not press conference.
00:07:52
But, you know, you mentioned it July like, Dude, there's months, man like this is months of yeah, commitment to being, you know, stuck.
00:08:02
You're stuck relatively excluded from everybody else and just normal day to day stuff.
00:08:06
So on both sides of it, even from Miami, for all the teams that stayed down there, the players that, like I said, if you opted out there, you're not gonna get a grudging word out of me around that I completely understand it and respect it.
00:08:16
But for the guys that came into it, listen, that takes a level of commitment.
00:08:21
You heard that from Jimmy Butler about why he was down there down there, try to win a championship.
00:08:26
You saw that Miami, obviously under Spoelstra, had that same mentality as well.
00:08:29
So it's just a big tip of the hat, man e.
00:08:32
I think you could tell to like the relief for all these guys to be able to go home and be able to relax in their own place like families came down there eventually, and that's great.
00:08:42
These guys haven't been in their own homes, slept in their own beds in months.
00:08:46
So there's a real payoff there, and I think for and that that conversation coming into the bubble about is it legitimate, is it not? Yes is 100% legitimate, and that kept getting more and more true as the bubble went on.
00:08:59
Maybe even more so because these guys had a year long season.
00:09:04
Ah, year ago, the Lakers and the Nets were playing in China and that whole thing was going on.
00:09:09
The game almost got postponed and, you know, some things were said from the Rockets organization and it was not looking good for the MBA in China.
00:09:18
Fast forward to now the same team that started in October of 2019 in China has now won the championship.
00:09:26
They had to commit for a full year.
00:09:27
They didn't get a summer.
00:09:29
They had a quarantine they had to commit for a full year.
00:09:32
It's even more so.
00:09:33
Ah, unique and harder championship toe win.
00:09:36
And what a win for the MBA saying, Hey, we can establish a world that is coronavirus free.
00:09:42
We could create a bubble and compete and put on a show for the world and it doesn't get shut down.
00:09:49
And then even with their relationship with China, man thes guys in the n b a r such leaders in the world, they helped China with the coronavirus.
00:09:58
In turn, China decides, Okay, Yeah, we're gonna put the MBA back on our television screens.
00:10:04
The demand for it was huge in China when Americans were saying, Oh, no one's watching the MBA.
00:10:09
Well, there's some good numbers over there that shows that the MBA is a global game.
00:10:13
And leaders in this world not just this country.
00:10:16
I love all of it.
00:10:17
Yeah, you're right.
00:10:18
The script, right.
00:10:19
The narrative around the MBA, this eh NBA season that's now gone on for so long has completely come back around to such a positive and different perspective from where we were in the infancy when it was Lakers and Nets over there trying to play and get some some interest there and things get off the rails, but you also get back on track.
00:10:37
You mentioned Mamba mentality.
00:10:39
Let's touch on that because I think it's significant for a lot of different reasons.
00:10:43
Rob Pelinka, in the postgame, mentioned specifically conversations that he had had with Kobe, where he said, I know what you did for me when I was first coming into the league when I was trying to build my own legacy.
00:10:54
I'm gonna give you two or three years here to get this thing back on track, and I expect us to be back winning.
00:10:59
He's fulfilled that level of commitment.
00:11:01
There we saw the team wearing the Mamba jerseys you've heard these players speak about.
00:11:05
Whether it's, you know, even LeBron James.
00:11:07
You're still talking about a guy that looked up to Kobe and then also became appear.
00:11:11
When you think about Anthony Davis are much younger player, I mean these air guys in the MBA right now, this next decade worth of players.
00:11:19
They're all gonna be guys that idolized, looked up to model their game after Kobe Bryant.
00:11:26
So that legacy reaches really cemented and now going to continue to grow around the MBA in general terms.
00:11:32
And then, you know, LeBron also talked about it around what they accomplished that in the bubble not just as a team but as a league.
00:11:38
And you said Right may be getting the reputation of league back on track, especially with with overseas.
00:11:42
Then you talk about social, the social injustice and what's been going on with police brutality and the treatment of minority groups in this country and bringing more attention to that.
00:11:50
When you talk about the voter issues and getting out and getting that vote hurts that you can affect an impact change at those levels.
00:11:58
I again you talk about legitimacy of this season.
00:12:01
This is such a multifaceted accomplishment for the n B A as a whole.
00:12:07
That, and I'm putting it underneath the Mamba mentality because again, Kobe Bryant was a guy who, after his playing career, really started to turn his mental focus about bringing up female athletes and helping to bring attention to the W N B A and lifting up again voices and to play and the value of so many different groups that I really think that a lot of sadness, right? A lot of bad things have got on in 2020.
00:12:36
And yet this feels like a really nice culmination off the positives that you could bring out of that stuff And how if you put a positive perspective on two things, you can turn stuff around.
00:12:44
You can turn around situations many more quickly than we realize.
00:12:49
Yeah, yeah, the Mamba mentality.
00:12:51
It's It's larger than just a basketball mentality.
00:12:55
It's It's bigger than just the way that you play the game.
00:12:58
I love that.
00:13:00
When Frank Vogel breaks the huddle, you know, they see they say 123 Mamba.
00:13:05
I love that they had the jerseys where they didn't lose a game in those mama jerseys until game five.
00:13:11
And maybe that was a reality check that they need to actually have the Mamba mentality at all times.
00:13:17
Not just think that Hey, this opponent we're facing is gonna lay down.
00:13:20
Kobe would have taken out, You know, he probably have taken out this opponent in four games, it wouldn't wouldn't have got to this point.
00:13:28
And then when you talk about Kobe Bryant off the court, this year was a rough year as soon as it started.
00:13:33
Because we lose Kobe Bryant, someone who we saw after his career become like you said such an advocate for women, young women in basketball, the W N b a.
00:13:44
Using his brand, his connections, obviously building up his daughter, G.
00:13:49
We all got to see her as well.
00:13:50
And for the Laker organization toe, lose a figure like that for the world to lose a figure like that.
00:13:56
This championship just makes it seem Mawr connected mawr right? Like this was destiny.
00:14:02
This was supposed to happen this year, whether we were in a bubble or not.
00:14:06
The Lakers were the number one team in the West, and when you got LeBron and a d, you know you should be favorite to win it all, but it takes a lot to get it done, especially with the thought of Kobe Bryant's death and G s death and the altar belly family and everybody that was on that helicopter.
00:14:24
It's tragic that that linger that lingers over you that that lingers over the whole organization, the whole team.
00:14:31
It makes him even more challenging to move forward in place.
00:14:34
So for these guys to do it and for the MBA to just consistently set a great example honoring him.
00:14:41
I remember when he passed and, you know, we didn't know if they're going to cancel the games or not.
00:14:45
But a lot of people tuned into the broadcast at the Staples Center with LeBron talking to the Lakers, and it just gave people like, you know, a sense of like something being right when so much felt wrong.
00:14:56
I I love that the Lakers got it done.
00:14:58
It's the first one.
00:15:00
That Gini bus is one since her father passed, and it is one that I feel like over time, it's just gonna grow in history.
00:15:09
As far as how big we you know how big we look at this thing.
00:15:12
It's hard to see sometimes when it just happened last night, but in the course of a few months years, people gonna look back at this entire year like the Lakers championship DVD DVD is going to be critically acclaimed.
00:15:25
You know it will be its last dance do***entary will be the bubble.
00:15:29
You just said it, dude, I'm almost positive the MBA has toe have some behind the scenes MBA footage that they're gonna put together and release, and it's gonna be great.
00:15:39
So, uh, you know, the MBA did a lot of great things.
00:15:42
The Lakers did a lot of great things, and I love that.
00:15:46
They can attribute it to Kobe and the Mamba mentality and and looking up to the sky at Kobe and saying Kobe is with us and making him larger than life figure after death, it, uh it makes it feel right.
00:15:59
It makes it seem right to me Now, on the other side of it, obviously, for as bright and shiny as it feels for the L A Lakers.
00:16:07
Obviously, Jimmy Butler comes out after and says he didn't hold up his end of the bargain.
00:16:10
We talk about what he's supposed to bring to the Miami Heat.
00:16:13
I think that he's genuine in those comments, and I also think that he's 100% wrong as we all right.
00:16:18
We all know he did everything and probably more than you expected of him for the Miami Heat.
00:16:22
That was their six final appearance.
00:16:24
They still have won three out of their six trips to the finals.
00:16:27
Just is there anything really to diminish about Miami coming out of Ah Siri's? That first of all, coming out of the playoffs that you weren't expected to even make the conference finals, let alone make the finals appearance? I think you hang your hat on that and you say, Boy, we can build from here, right? We can.
00:16:42
We can make some moves off of this and feel great that completely outmatched in both, Maybe the Eastern Conference.
00:16:48
And then in the finals, we still took LeBron James and the A team that felt somewhat of destiny in a lot of ways to six games.
00:16:56
That, in and of itself, is an impressive feat.
00:16:59
Yeah, big face. Coffee.
00:17:01
Jimmy Butler.
00:17:02
Mr Buckets, Uh, that guy is incredible.
00:17:07
And I saw the video of him after Game five walking off the podium.
00:17:12
Dude, look like an old man like I could feel his pain, like, you know, the way he was walking.
00:17:18
That's not just from one game.
00:17:20
That's from balling out every day, every week for months in that bubble and he did everything he could.
00:17:26
Uh, this team was not expected to be in the NBA Finals.
00:17:30
They were the fifth seed, and during the season, they were cool team that people like they got the Miami vice jerseys.
00:17:36
You know, they got ah, rookie that they literally those those jerseys, they're probably I love it.
00:17:42
Yeah, the best City Edition jerseys in the league.
00:17:46
So, you know, they relied on on a rookie that no one knew if this guy was gonna be what Tyler hero turned out to be this year, when they drafted, I think he was picked, like 19th or something like he wasn't a top five pick.
00:17:58
Um, they had to make a move to get Jae Crowder to get Andre Iguodala.
00:18:03
The cast, the players around him.
00:18:05
Bam bam misses a game drag.
00:18:08
It misses a couple games.
00:18:10
So, like Jimmy was literally out there with some unknowns and without some of the main guys that were supposed to help him, Another rookie, Kendrick Nunn, they heavily relied on this year.
00:18:20
So nobody thought that the heat we're going to come out of the east and contend with LeBron James and even win two games in the finals.
00:18:28
Everyone looking at Yanis, the Raptors, the Celtics to figure it out in the East and go meet LeBron James, but then most likely lose.
00:18:37
So I think for Jimmy Butler, they're gonna figure it out for you, man.
00:18:41
You guys took a huge step in Miami this year to show the MBA.
00:18:45
Hey, we have 18.
00:18:47
Yes, Jimmy is supposed to be the superstar.
00:18:49
Bam is a rising superstar.
00:18:51
They might even go out and sign another superstar.
00:18:54
But now, when you look at the complexion of the East, you know what? Teams are going to take a step back.
00:18:59
You got the Nets coming in.
00:19:02
You know them being full strength with two superstars.
00:19:05
I think Miami's gonna be still at the top of the like, top of the league top three.
00:19:09
Now, just with this mo mentum just because this team has felt what it feels like to go to a finals.
00:19:15
Jimmy Butler, I can't I can't take anything off of that guy.
00:19:18
And I think it was Game three.
00:19:20
He gave us one of the best performances Uh, a solo performance we've seen in the finals ever.
00:19:26
So yeah, I thought Jimmy and his story.
00:19:28
I love that people learned about his story more through this, you know, like how he was brought up.
00:19:34
Um, you know, things that happened to him, how he landed, where he landed because for a little while, people were looking at Jimmy Butler like he was an a hole.
00:19:42
Like he was a bad guy.
00:19:44
Like, he wasn't the type of person that we're looking at him as now.
00:19:47
And I think he gained a lot of fans and respect of a lot of fans.
00:19:51
And you talk about 100% right? Because go back to Minnesota right where they go.
00:19:55
Well, listen, he leaves from there because he can't get along with these guys now.
00:19:58
The background is, well, he's trying to push everybody.
00:20:01
And are these young players really in the same mentality? Goes to Philadelphia is a little bit more favorably looked on, especially by and beat.
00:20:07
And you had mentioned that relationship on a previous stream is well, where it seemed like maybe a little bit better, But again, they choose not to bring them back.
00:20:14
So it starts to become this idea of is Jimmy Butler just not not a guy that can fit it on a roster.
00:20:20
They can't find a way to mess with everybody.
00:20:22
And then you hear the stories about him and Tyler, hero in training camp in the way he's going at Tyler hero and trying toe.
00:20:29
See what he's made of.
00:20:30
And Hero comes right back and accepts that challenge, and that's what it looks like.
00:20:34
You just need a collection of guys that have that same mental makeup and mentality that Jimmy Butler brings to a team.
00:20:39
And then you get some of the best results that you've seen in recent memory for the Miami Heat.
00:20:44
When you flip this over to just well, so say you really on both sides here.
00:20:48
Obviously, you think Miami is still gonna be in pursuit, maybe of another bigger names that really helped bolster it.
00:20:53
And they've done themselves nothing but huge favors by having this type of performance with really Onley one maybe quote superstar, borderline superstar and Jimmy Butler for the Lakers.
00:21:04
You know, little tweaks here.
00:21:05
Little moves maybe on the back end and in some of the depth pieces on this roster.
00:21:09
But are we entering maybe many dynasty territory potentially for the Lakers.
00:21:14
We know LeBron is not not young, but we also know he's the Finals M v p again for the fourth time.
00:21:19
So you know these next couple of seasons Western Conference is going to be difficult.
00:21:24
But where does it stand for both of these teams? I think Miami can push with a nice piece that they add in the free agency for the Lakers.
00:21:31
Its's run this thing back, right? Let's see what the next two years look for.
00:21:35
We could be cementing our Lakers legacy, LeBron and a D by winning two, maybe three, championships over a four year stretch.
00:21:43
Yeah, you're getting me pumped up, man.
00:21:46
You're getting me excited for next season because now we're entering what would be the NBA summer right? And if the season was the end in June, we'd be entering the time where the rumor mill gets crazy and people start thinking about who could end up where and where it could shift.
00:22:01
And I was thinking about this season as far as LeBron, because there's always a narrative for LeBron haters and they're going to say Well in the West, Katie moved to Brooklyn and Clay and Steph were hurt, so they didn't have to deal with warriors.
00:22:17
And then when they look at the East, they're gonna say Katie didn't even play this year. It was just Kyrie.
00:22:22
He'd have the Nets coming out of the East.
00:22:25
Let's see what he does next year.
00:22:26
Well, let's see, because the Lakers are in Dynasty mode A.
00:22:30
D and LeBron if they can keep them together.
00:22:33
LeBron is 35 going on 36.
00:22:35
He's gonna play for another four years and I'm gonna give him at least 2 to 3 more seasons of what we just saw takes care of his body.
00:22:43
He's got the most money and the most access to things.
00:22:47
Thio eat right and the terrain and be healthy like I would I would bank on at least another 2 to 3 seasons of that.
00:22:56
LeBron and A D is in his prime, so they're going to get better, right? When you look at the Lakers team, just a GIA loan, they could get younger.
00:23:06
They're gonna they're gonna draft, they're gonna make trades.
00:23:08
They're gonna make moves with depending how much they can afford.
00:23:11
And this that and the other.
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But like they could upgrade, uh, contagious. Caldwell.
00:23:16
Pope.
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He's all right when you need him, but he's not the guy.
00:23:19
Alex Caruso Like they have guys on this team. Danny Green.
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Like they could up.
00:23:24
They could upgrade pretty easily with a couple moves and even getting their bench better.
00:23:29
Right? There's guys on their bench.
00:23:30
J R. Smith, Javale McGee.
00:23:32
Jared Like some of these guys just put up zeros the whole run, by the way.
00:23:38
Just getting back.
00:23:39
Avery Bradley, who you had during the regular like that's an upgrade that you that you don't have to do anything for.
00:23:44
He just gets to come back to the roster.
00:23:45
That is gonna happen naturally.
00:23:47
Gonna happen.
00:23:48
So, yeah, we're talking Lakers LeBron a d dynasty mode.
00:23:53
I could see it in the next five years, and he's gonna retire a Laker there and they're gonna build around LeBron so that LeBron does have the help and he doesn't have to be relied on so much.
00:24:03
They could rely on his brain.
00:24:04
They can rely on his basketball i Q.
00:24:07
But have they got like if they had a better shooter, then Danny Green and not knocking Danny Green Rock fam ROC nation shout out if they had a better shooter than Danny Green.
00:24:18
Steve Kerr knocks down that shot that that way.
00:24:23
Okay, lets derail here for a second and back.
00:24:25
Things up there is what the first serious notice this.
00:24:28
Any of you people out there that were saying what you were saying towards Danny Green's wife on social media? That's the kind of stuff that I could do without.
00:24:37
That's the kind of stuff that I would just a soon suck out into a vacuum of space and never hear from again, like That's just, you know, and I love passion.
00:24:44
I you know, I love.
00:24:45
I love having great, passionate conversations around basketball, but that's not what that ISS that's like, disgusting.
00:24:51
That's pretty much that lowest level.
00:24:53
And the thing that I wish I never had a beer experience.
00:24:56
Biggie is a great guy.
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His brother is a great guy.
00:24:58
They do camps for kids.
00:24:59
They give to a lot of people from like North Carolina area to San Antonio, where he waas did stuff in Toronto, and I'm sure he's doing things in L.
00:25:09
A.
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I hate when I see it crossed that line where it's like you guys gotta think about it like we don't need any of that.
00:25:16
But yeah, go ahead. No, 100%.
00:25:18
And I just you know, I don't wanna one.
00:25:19
I don't wanna bring it down.
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But I also don't want to go past that and just saying, Hey, Thio, that's not the way to go.
00:25:28
Got to call it out.
00:25:29
Get a good long look in the mirror on those types of thoughts friends on then.
00:25:33
But beyond that, though, then the debate on the court was things.
00:25:37
Something this is This is This is where we'll go with it as well.
00:25:39
Close out on that debate conversation around Jordan and Braun.
00:25:43
It's fun to have this discussion, but going back just one game, everybody.
00:25:48
Oh, Michael Jordan never does that.
00:25:50
Michael Jordan takes that last shot, and it was like so Michael Jordan consistently did exactly that thing.
00:25:56
He Yeah, he threw it over to Steve Kerr so he could knock down the big look like it's such a It's such a short term, and I know a lot of people have been saying like, Listen, if you're of a certain age range and I'm a little bit older.
00:26:07
You're a couple years younger than me, but still old enough to know Michael Jordan.
00:26:10
And by the way, they just did a do***entary on this.
00:26:12
You could have watched it to know all these.
00:26:15
Allow these.
00:26:17
I don't know all these teenage kids that, like grew up on LeBron and love them so much, and that's great.
00:26:22
But when you call out something like that, you're like, Dude, not only was it the right basketball play and it's and if Green knocks it down, you're gonna you're gonna sing the praises of LeBron for drawing the defense and kicking it to a wide open shooter like he misses the shot.
00:26:37
It's still the right basketball play.
00:26:39
And by the way, it's what other superstars, especially the 1 to 1 comparison with Jordan.
00:26:43
Yes, he had.
00:26:45
He has done that in his career.
00:26:46
He did do that in his career.
00:26:47
It didn't pay off in that particular spot.
00:26:49
Still nothing to knock.
00:26:51
So now we get into this debate, this conversation around LeBron and on Michael Jordan and Legacy.
00:26:57
I don't know if I ever will really get to a place where I automatically say it's it's LeBron or it's Jordan.
00:27:05
I know that I love watching old footage of Jordan.
00:27:08
I know that I loved watching him growing up.
00:27:10
I know that I love watching LeBron James.
00:27:12
The one thing that I will say that I've talked about with, uh with Doug over on the Nets podcast is and he's always consistently said this.
00:27:20
There's only one champion every season Onley one team gets toe win.
00:27:26
So when you could say that you got 10 bites at that apple, that in and of itself is an accomplishment.
00:27:32
And so the the idea of diminishing not winning When you get there, that doesn't That doesn't correlate for May.
00:27:38
You went there 10 times.
00:27:40
You made it through the Eastern Conference, the Western Conference.
00:27:43
10 times you have gone to the finals with a chance to win a chip.
00:27:47
And now that you've gotten before, if I'm gonna get swayed, if you want to say you can push me over the edge with it, it's gonna be if you get if you get five rings LeBron and you've been there 11 times and you win five finals MVPs.
00:28:01
Yeah, those scales.
00:28:02
Air starting to tip now in a certain point.
00:28:04
I just think you have to acknowledge that that he has done some things that have been as impressive and in some ways even Mawr, impressive from an overall game and what he does to impact a roster and a team is something that Jordan took a little bit more time to get you in his career and doesn't diminish either one of them.
00:28:23
But I think LeBron had that mentality much sooner in his career than maybe Jordan did.
00:28:28
The scale already tipped for me.
00:28:30
There's just too many things like I feel like I talked myself into it while I was while I was saying I'm not going one way or the other I said last night.
00:28:37
Long live the king.
00:28:39
I was old enough toe watch Jordan, an elementary school.
00:28:42
I'm old enoughto watch LeBron as an adult.
00:28:44
LeBron is, I think, three years older than me right now.
00:28:48
So maybe four will be 36 like I've seen them both, and I've seen their impact.
00:28:53
Jordan said Republicans buy sneakers to like Jordan.
00:28:58
Jordan was the same guy that, like I said in the middle of a Siris in New York, he's decided toe hit the Turnpike Parkway and go to a sea between games.
00:29:10
It's not the same.
00:29:11
You can't like you can't and I know people gonna just say Just basketball.
00:29:15
Well, you just talked about how Jordan made the right basketball playing, kicking it to somebody that was ready and hit the shot for LeBron has taken a bunch of guys two championships.
00:29:25
He's put rings on guys fingers that they had no shot of doing it any other way.
00:29:30
They had to be on the LeBron James train.
00:29:33
LeBron is a different level with four rings.
00:29:36
I think his four rings are stronger than those six rings because, like we said, he got 10 cracks at it, right, and this might be right this year. Might be.
00:29:46
Might be.
00:29:47
I think this is easily maybe that that Kyrie, Irving, Kevin Love Cleveland.
00:29:52
But I'd say that this big just a d alone.
00:29:55
This is the probably the strongest collective roster that LeBron's ever been with, and and again, I'm not.
00:30:01
I'm not gonna diminish Jordan when I make the statement.
00:30:04
You had a top 50 MBA player all time by your side for everyone.
00:30:08
Your championships, then you had one of the top 20 of his era.
00:30:12
If not, you know, I don't even know where you put them all time.
00:30:13
And Dennis Rodman defensively for the second threepeat that you run like the quality of talented, even Steve Kerr, just from a pure shooter.
00:30:21
International legend.
00:30:23
Yeah.
00:30:24
Yeah, well, you bring in those Tony Coach rather Yeah, coach way from a young mind from, like a young mind.
00:30:38
I remember growing up watching those those those teams and I In my mind, Luc Longley was, like, such a crucial component to their championships.
00:30:45
And then when I watched the last dance, I was like, Oh, that guy really didn't didn't do a whole heck of a lot city.
00:30:50
But But he was here in Jordan, Made that how he wanted to make it.
00:30:53
Maybe him and Luke got in a fight over a card game or something.
00:30:57
And he did him wrong, Little diminish.
00:30:59
But Horace Grant did Horace Grant wrong, and Horace Grant was a big part of Yeah, but what you know, and you mentioned it to about, you know, style of play and mentality around the game, I will say, Like, I I do respect and, well, it is funny, cause I was just having this conversation, and we're, uh we're on the back end of it now, friends.
00:31:17
But I was just having this conversation yesterday around the NFL and thinking about Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, two guys that do it very differently.
00:31:25
Tom Brady is probably in that LeBron James mold, right? He's doing everything for his body health diet fitness to make sure that he can maximize who he is.
00:31:35
Now, Tom Brady is not the natural skill set athlete that LeBron James is.
00:31:40
But they both want to be the best that they can be at their craft and that at their position, Aaron Rodgers arguing is like Michael Jordan man, I am one of the greatest.
00:31:49
I am one of the most talented, and when it comes time to step on the court, step on the field, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do what I dio.
00:31:54
But I'm also going to smoke some cigars.
00:31:56
I'm also, you know, I'm also gonna take my time.
00:31:58
I'm also gonna do my gambling thing, and again, it doesn't take away from either one of them.
00:32:03
But I I appreciate someone that is willing to be is dedicated to their craft and to knowing what their legacy is going to be when they leave, as LeBron James has been.
00:32:12
And even though Michael Jordan took it to his teammates on a consistent basis to get the best out of them and a lot of them, like Ron Harper said, and he got that from me, right? He did bring that out in me.
00:32:22
He did get the best out of Scottie Pippen at times, but then you hear all the other flip sides and all the other guys you don't hear from there like yeah, and also it was pretty brutal to be around him.
00:32:31
Like LeBron, James has threaded that needle of being absolutely dominant and demanding the most and also being like beloved by all of his teammates and by his peers and respected.
00:32:42
And from a legacy standpoint, that's also where I look at I go.
00:32:47
That means something.
00:32:48
You know.
00:32:49
That means Justus much as what you do and getting to the finals and making those appearances.
00:32:53
The way in which you accomplish it is just important to me and from that standpoint, LeBron gets a massive swing in his favor for always seemingly understanding what it is to be a superstar and to be a teammate and to be a collect give elevator of talent around you.
00:33:10
And he's not done.
00:33:12
He's no right.
00:33:13
I'm talking about it like he like He just announced his retirement last night, and he still got years left.
00:33:18
And like you said, I think he still has 23 years of absolute prom basketball before you start to talk about okay, a d Now you really got to become the dominant force and carry us here as we build up some other young pieces.
00:33:31
Yeah, And the Lakers, they're gonna do what they gotta do to make that team better.
00:33:34
Like I said, they know the Nets Air coming, Katie Kyrie and our whole cast.
00:33:37
They know, uh, honest is gonna move or or stay and make his team better.
00:33:42
The warriors air coming right back.
00:33:44
They're gonna have guys ready to rock the Clippers.
00:33:47
They made changes right away.
00:33:48
Fire, Doc, Like they're gonna like the NBA is gonna Reshef Reshuffle in the competition is gonna be high and the Lakers gonna be right up there.
00:33:55
If LeBron Lebron already has four, right? If LeBron can win two rings as a Laker, 12 appearances, he's gonna he's gonna keep going back to the finals.
00:34:06
That's like it's such an automatic thing.
00:34:08
We watch LeBron in the finals.
00:34:10
If LeBron isn't in the finals like last year, like I didn't even watch the finals like I usually would.
00:34:15
I think I was at Bonnaroo last year during the finals, watching on my phone like different LeBron LeBron has a chance. Thio.
00:34:23
I think if he hits five rings, the conversations over.
00:34:26
But right now, I think it's tip uh, for a lot of people myself included, because what we're seeing LeBron do on the court, off the court, his relationship with guys, these guys are fans of them.
00:34:35
These guys that he's playing with grew up watching him as fans, and now they love him as like a brother and a teammate.
00:34:41
It's awesome to see um, for me, it's LeBron James and like I said, I've seen both.
00:34:46
So Long live the King.
00:34:48
Congrats to the Lakers.
00:34:49
Congrats, Thio the MBA for a successful bubble, entertaining us all for months and completing the 2019 2020 season.
00:34:57
I enjoyed it and, uh, can't wait to see it start back up in January.
00:35:02
2020.
00:35:03
Woman, 100% Tip of the hat to Anthony Davis, who now gets his first ring as well.
00:35:07
So his legacy building process begins a new as we head into the offseason.
00:35:11
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00:35:18
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00:35:21
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00:35:25
Brooks will probably not even get into some of the X's and O's around this game as Matt Brooks is one toe.
00:35:30
Want to dio.
00:35:31
Until then, though, Man, we head into the offseason.
00:35:33
So much other exciting stuff Now.
00:35:35
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00:35:37
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00:35:42
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00:35:44
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LeBron James reaches another milestone after finishing 2020 playoffs with 25+ point average

Los Angeles Lakers star forward LeBron James has once again proven that he is a winner after grabbing his fourth ring in Game 6 of the 2020 NBA Finals. He is now the only player in NBA history to average more than 25 points per game in the playoffs on three different championship-winning teams, namely […]

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no.
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And with that, we welcome you back into SportsCastr news, of course, covering all things N b A.
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With myself out of Marin break, joined by the man, The myth, the legend Keith McPherson on a Monday morning Busy, busy weekend busy in general in sports right now, obviously MLB playoffs.
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Unfortunately for local for US local, The Yankees fell to the Tampa Bay Rays there as they moved on in the playoffs to the next round.
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But a lot.
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A lot of action, and maybe this almost gets swept under the NFL rug.
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But late last night, well, well, maybe you were watching the Dallas Cowboys in New York football giants wrap up their games.
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You're right on the cost off Lakers.
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He kicking off in Game six, where the Lakers just really come out and do kind of what we thought.
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Maybe they were going to do from the jump in this game.
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What you saw a lot more of in Games one and two absolutely pummeled the heat.
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It was not nearly as close as the 106 93 final scoreline 17th title for the Los Angeles Lakers.
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How did feel to you, Keith was it? Was it fun? Watch where you'd all disappointed that it wasn't, um or intense game? No, I needed this.
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This one Exactly as I thought.
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Lakers in six.
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I actually said Lakers in five or six.
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Gentlemen, sweep.
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Or maybe for TV.
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And just to get that Sunday night weekend game, it goes six.
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And it did.
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I was watching football.
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I obviously was watching the baseball, but I was tuned in for LeBron.
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I wanted to see the Lakers get it done.
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LeBron get the chip.
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Get M v P.
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I wanted to see the Lakers organization, except there's 17 title, putting them at the top all time with the Celtics.
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I loved it.
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Um, LeBron man, LeBron said what he had to say out there.
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And he did.
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We had to do out there a d right away with the defense.
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Rondo deciding.
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Hey, I'm gonna come off the bench and give you all buckets because you might not be expecting this, but we're needing this after the last game.
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The Lakers just imposed their will.
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They establish their dominance right away, and this game was over so fast and the party started so early.
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Congrats, toe the Los Angeles Lakers mama mentality.
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They came out.
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I feel like a little bit stronger because they didn't win in those mama jerseys in Game five.
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They sent the message right away and this one and I enjoyed it.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, you say it right? Like it just it.
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A switch was flipped to use the cliche where they came out with a defensive intensity and you were hearing throughout the broadcast off.
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They completely took Miami out of whatever energy and whatever sink they had on the offensive end.
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They took it to him on the defensive side as well.
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When you talk about Anthony Davis, you this what you want.
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You want that 11 defensive rebounds, coming away with a couple of blocks, 15 rebounds overall and kicking in 19 points.
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LeBron James goes ahead and gives you another triple double, because that's what he likes to do when it comes to the finals.
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Just a complete performance by this team and that man really, like Rondo has made ah case for himself that he is far from done Now.
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He's not gonna be a guy that you're going to get long stretches out of during the regular season.
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But the fact that when you look in this game, we're not gonna do too much here as far as the game is concerned in the box score.
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But when you looked at this and you saw a very small performance from Caruso, who gets inserted into the starting lineup really for defensive purposes.
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So the Lakers go really small here.
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They take Dwight Howard out of the starting lineup and rotate everybody up in terms of the positions on the court.
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But then you didn't have.
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You didn't have a big showing from anybody on that bench.
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Except for Rondo.
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Eight of 11 3 or four from Deep really gave you that veteran type of game.
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Got inside, got a couple easy buckets in and around the hoop is well, so it was a great overall performance from the Lakers.
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And listen, even in a bad game, you could say for the Miami Heat, all those stat lines are still there.
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Like all the guys in the starting lineup still got there is this is just really felt like a serious where you're coming into it that the as you say, gentlemen, sweep.
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Maybe it gets to six.
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Everybody kind of thought You're outmatched that so many different spots here, even just from the size standpoint.
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So you kind of expected this to be the result, happy that at least got a couple of really exciting games and a couple of triple double performances from Jimmy Butler on that side of things.
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This officially marks the fourth title for one LeBron James, his fourth NBA Finals, M v P Award as well.
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In this in the Western Conference, you had two guys in LeBron James and Kawhi Leonard that we're both in pursuit of the same goal this year.
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Winning a third title with a third team are winning three titles.
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Excuse me with three teams, obviously fourth for LeBron James, and he's able to do it, you know.
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He also averaged 25 points now in in the finals for three different teams as well.
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Like a lot of a lot of stat padding here from a career standpoint for LeBron James.
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What does it mean? Just 13 winning a championship with them and also the finals MVPs? That talk was out there about could a d be worthy of the M V p.
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And as this Siri's moved along, it very quickly seemed to shift over to know this is still LeBron's team.
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This is still Iran's league.
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The Revenge tour.
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The revenge season is complete for the washed king.
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LeBron LeBron finishes second again in the M V P voting this year.
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It takes that personal.
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You know he's going to go get that finals.
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M v p first two games after, you know, we see the final start, people start talking a maybe a d maybe a D.
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But those guys who spoke so much about how they don't have any ego, how they have a partnership, their brothers, you know, they just want to see each other do well.
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And man LeBron James, when you're looking at this championship, I think as time goes on, I watch some stuff this morning with, you know, the MBA, TV people talking about it.
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I think what people are going to realize is that this championship is the most unique championship we've ever seen in the NBA.
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They've never had this AU type set up in the MBA.
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They never had this almost like lock down.
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MBA player locked down where all the players air right here.
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We're talking about LeBron.
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James is the goat.
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LeBron couldn't go to Atlantic City to get a break in between Game four and five.
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LeBron E couldn't roll a couple of dice there just to take the edge off a little LeBron couldn't go and, uh, you know, get away from basketball at all to get this title and, man, these guys all had to buy in.
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I think about one Avery Bradley, who decided that it wasn't something he wanted to buy into, and he decided to handle business out in the real world, which I commend.
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But then you look at these guys that decided to actually buy in and and commit to this, you know, July August September October 4 months in this bubble to get the ultimate prize.
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I love it for LeBron it being his fourth ring, his third different franchise that he's brought to a championship.
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Just think about that right.
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Cleveland, Miami and Lakers fans all celebrate LeBron James for bringing them a championship.
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You know, Chicago celebrates Michael Jordan for bringing him a championship, and that's are bringing them, bringing them six championships, and that's great.
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But in a whole different scope.
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LeBron has put three different franchises on top, he said in his postgame.
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Hey, I just want my **** respect to, and I think we've got to really give that guy his respect.
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I know it's going to go on forever, and I love that we have a different Cipto.
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Add to the conversation that, hey, this bubble Jordan witness survived a no bubble.
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Well, yeah, right.
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Well, that's, you know, it's so funny because in the postgame press, in the postgame comments, I'll say not press conference.
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But, you know, you mentioned it July like, Dude, there's months, man like this is months of yeah, commitment to being, you know, stuck.
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You're stuck relatively excluded from everybody else and just normal day to day stuff.
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So on both sides of it, even from Miami, for all the teams that stayed down there, the players that, like I said, if you opted out there, you're not gonna get a grudging word out of me around that I completely understand it and respect it.
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But for the guys that came into it, listen, that takes a level of commitment.
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You heard that from Jimmy Butler about why he was down there down there, try to win a championship.
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You saw that Miami, obviously under Spoelstra, had that same mentality as well.
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So it's just a big tip of the hat, man e.
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I think you could tell to like the relief for all these guys to be able to go home and be able to relax in their own place like families came down there eventually, and that's great.
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These guys haven't been in their own homes, slept in their own beds in months.
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So there's a real payoff there, and I think for and that that conversation coming into the bubble about is it legitimate, is it not? Yes is 100% legitimate, and that kept getting more and more true as the bubble went on.
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Maybe even more so because these guys had a year long season.
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Ah, year ago, the Lakers and the Nets were playing in China and that whole thing was going on.
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The game almost got postponed and, you know, some things were said from the Rockets organization and it was not looking good for the MBA in China.
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Fast forward to now the same team that started in October of 2019 in China has now won the championship.
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They had to commit for a full year.
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They didn't get a summer.
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They had a quarantine they had to commit for a full year.
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It's even more so.
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Ah, unique and harder championship toe win.
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And what a win for the MBA saying, Hey, we can establish a world that is coronavirus free.
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We could create a bubble and compete and put on a show for the world and it doesn't get shut down.
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And then even with their relationship with China, man thes guys in the n b a r such leaders in the world, they helped China with the coronavirus.
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In turn, China decides, Okay, Yeah, we're gonna put the MBA back on our television screens.
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The demand for it was huge in China when Americans were saying, Oh, no one's watching the MBA.
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Well, there's some good numbers over there that shows that the MBA is a global game.
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And leaders in this world not just this country.
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I love all of it.
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Yeah, you're right.
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The script, right.
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The narrative around the MBA, this eh NBA season that's now gone on for so long has completely come back around to such a positive and different perspective from where we were in the infancy when it was Lakers and Nets over there trying to play and get some some interest there and things get off the rails, but you also get back on track.
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You mentioned Mamba mentality.
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Let's touch on that because I think it's significant for a lot of different reasons.
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Rob Pelinka, in the postgame, mentioned specifically conversations that he had had with Kobe, where he said, I know what you did for me when I was first coming into the league when I was trying to build my own legacy.
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I'm gonna give you two or three years here to get this thing back on track, and I expect us to be back winning.
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He's fulfilled that level of commitment.
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There we saw the team wearing the Mamba jerseys you've heard these players speak about.
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Whether it's, you know, even LeBron James.
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You're still talking about a guy that looked up to Kobe and then also became appear.
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When you think about Anthony Davis are much younger player, I mean these air guys in the MBA right now, this next decade worth of players.
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They're all gonna be guys that idolized, looked up to model their game after Kobe Bryant.
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So that legacy reaches really cemented and now going to continue to grow around the MBA in general terms.
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And then, you know, LeBron also talked about it around what they accomplished that in the bubble not just as a team but as a league.
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And you said Right may be getting the reputation of league back on track, especially with with overseas.
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Then you talk about social, the social injustice and what's been going on with police brutality and the treatment of minority groups in this country and bringing more attention to that.
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When you talk about the voter issues and getting out and getting that vote hurts that you can affect an impact change at those levels.
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I again you talk about legitimacy of this season.
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This is such a multifaceted accomplishment for the n B A as a whole.
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That, and I'm putting it underneath the Mamba mentality because again, Kobe Bryant was a guy who, after his playing career, really started to turn his mental focus about bringing up female athletes and helping to bring attention to the W N B A and lifting up again voices and to play and the value of so many different groups that I really think that a lot of sadness, right? A lot of bad things have got on in 2020.
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And yet this feels like a really nice culmination off the positives that you could bring out of that stuff And how if you put a positive perspective on two things, you can turn stuff around.
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You can turn around situations many more quickly than we realize.
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Yeah, yeah, the Mamba mentality.
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It's It's larger than just a basketball mentality.
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It's It's bigger than just the way that you play the game.
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I love that.
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When Frank Vogel breaks the huddle, you know, they see they say 123 Mamba.
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I love that they had the jerseys where they didn't lose a game in those mama jerseys until game five.
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And maybe that was a reality check that they need to actually have the Mamba mentality at all times.
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Not just think that Hey, this opponent we're facing is gonna lay down.
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Kobe would have taken out, You know, he probably have taken out this opponent in four games, it wouldn't wouldn't have got to this point.
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And then when you talk about Kobe Bryant off the court, this year was a rough year as soon as it started.
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Because we lose Kobe Bryant, someone who we saw after his career become like you said such an advocate for women, young women in basketball, the W N b a.
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Using his brand, his connections, obviously building up his daughter, G.
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We all got to see her as well.
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And for the Laker organization toe, lose a figure like that for the world to lose a figure like that.
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This championship just makes it seem Mawr connected mawr right? Like this was destiny.
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This was supposed to happen this year, whether we were in a bubble or not.
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The Lakers were the number one team in the West, and when you got LeBron and a d, you know you should be favorite to win it all, but it takes a lot to get it done, especially with the thought of Kobe Bryant's death and G s death and the altar belly family and everybody that was on that helicopter.
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It's tragic that that linger that lingers over you that that lingers over the whole organization, the whole team.
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It makes him even more challenging to move forward in place.
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So for these guys to do it and for the MBA to just consistently set a great example honoring him.
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I remember when he passed and, you know, we didn't know if they're going to cancel the games or not.
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But a lot of people tuned into the broadcast at the Staples Center with LeBron talking to the Lakers, and it just gave people like, you know, a sense of like something being right when so much felt wrong.
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I I love that the Lakers got it done.
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It's the first one.
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That Gini bus is one since her father passed, and it is one that I feel like over time, it's just gonna grow in history.
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As far as how big we you know how big we look at this thing.
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It's hard to see sometimes when it just happened last night, but in the course of a few months years, people gonna look back at this entire year like the Lakers championship DVD DVD is going to be critically acclaimed.
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You know it will be its last dance do***entary will be the bubble.
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You just said it, dude, I'm almost positive the MBA has toe have some behind the scenes MBA footage that they're gonna put together and release, and it's gonna be great.
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So, uh, you know, the MBA did a lot of great things.
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The Lakers did a lot of great things, and I love that.
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They can attribute it to Kobe and the Mamba mentality and and looking up to the sky at Kobe and saying Kobe is with us and making him larger than life figure after death, it, uh it makes it feel right.
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It makes it seem right to me Now, on the other side of it, obviously, for as bright and shiny as it feels for the L A Lakers.
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Obviously, Jimmy Butler comes out after and says he didn't hold up his end of the bargain.
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We talk about what he's supposed to bring to the Miami Heat.
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I think that he's genuine in those comments, and I also think that he's 100% wrong as we all right.
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We all know he did everything and probably more than you expected of him for the Miami Heat.
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That was their six final appearance.
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They still have won three out of their six trips to the finals.
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Just is there anything really to diminish about Miami coming out of Ah Siri's? That first of all, coming out of the playoffs that you weren't expected to even make the conference finals, let alone make the finals appearance? I think you hang your hat on that and you say, Boy, we can build from here, right? We can.
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We can make some moves off of this and feel great that completely outmatched in both, Maybe the Eastern Conference.
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And then in the finals, we still took LeBron James and the A team that felt somewhat of destiny in a lot of ways to six games.
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That, in and of itself, is an impressive feat.
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Yeah, big face. Coffee.
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Jimmy Butler.
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Mr Buckets, Uh, that guy is incredible.
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And I saw the video of him after Game five walking off the podium.
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Dude, look like an old man like I could feel his pain, like, you know, the way he was walking.
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That's not just from one game.
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That's from balling out every day, every week for months in that bubble and he did everything he could.
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Uh, this team was not expected to be in the NBA Finals.
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They were the fifth seed, and during the season, they were cool team that people like they got the Miami vice jerseys.
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You know, they got ah, rookie that they literally those those jerseys, they're probably I love it.
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Yeah, the best City Edition jerseys in the league.
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So, you know, they relied on on a rookie that no one knew if this guy was gonna be what Tyler hero turned out to be this year, when they drafted, I think he was picked, like 19th or something like he wasn't a top five pick.
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Um, they had to make a move to get Jae Crowder to get Andre Iguodala.
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The cast, the players around him.
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Bam bam misses a game drag.
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It misses a couple games.
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So, like Jimmy was literally out there with some unknowns and without some of the main guys that were supposed to help him, Another rookie, Kendrick Nunn, they heavily relied on this year.
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So nobody thought that the heat we're going to come out of the east and contend with LeBron James and even win two games in the finals.
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Everyone looking at Yanis, the Raptors, the Celtics to figure it out in the East and go meet LeBron James, but then most likely lose.
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So I think for Jimmy Butler, they're gonna figure it out for you, man.
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You guys took a huge step in Miami this year to show the MBA.
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Hey, we have 18.
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Yes, Jimmy is supposed to be the superstar.
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Bam is a rising superstar.
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They might even go out and sign another superstar.
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But now, when you look at the complexion of the East, you know what? Teams are going to take a step back.
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You got the Nets coming in.
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You know them being full strength with two superstars.
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I think Miami's gonna be still at the top of the like, top of the league top three.
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Now, just with this mo mentum just because this team has felt what it feels like to go to a finals.
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Jimmy Butler, I can't I can't take anything off of that guy.
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And I think it was Game three.
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He gave us one of the best performances Uh, a solo performance we've seen in the finals ever.
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So yeah, I thought Jimmy and his story.
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I love that people learned about his story more through this, you know, like how he was brought up.
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Um, you know, things that happened to him, how he landed, where he landed because for a little while, people were looking at Jimmy Butler like he was an a hole.
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Like he was a bad guy.
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Like, he wasn't the type of person that we're looking at him as now.
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And I think he gained a lot of fans and respect of a lot of fans.
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And you talk about 100% right? Because go back to Minnesota right where they go.
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Well, listen, he leaves from there because he can't get along with these guys now.
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The background is, well, he's trying to push everybody.
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And are these young players really in the same mentality? Goes to Philadelphia is a little bit more favorably looked on, especially by and beat.
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And you had mentioned that relationship on a previous stream is well, where it seemed like maybe a little bit better, But again, they choose not to bring them back.
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So it starts to become this idea of is Jimmy Butler just not not a guy that can fit it on a roster.
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They can't find a way to mess with everybody.
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And then you hear the stories about him and Tyler, hero in training camp in the way he's going at Tyler hero and trying toe.
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See what he's made of.
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And Hero comes right back and accepts that challenge, and that's what it looks like.
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You just need a collection of guys that have that same mental makeup and mentality that Jimmy Butler brings to a team.
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And then you get some of the best results that you've seen in recent memory for the Miami Heat.
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When you flip this over to just well, so say you really on both sides here.
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Obviously, you think Miami is still gonna be in pursuit, maybe of another bigger names that really helped bolster it.
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And they've done themselves nothing but huge favors by having this type of performance with really Onley one maybe quote superstar, borderline superstar and Jimmy Butler for the Lakers.
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You know, little tweaks here.
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Little moves maybe on the back end and in some of the depth pieces on this roster.
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But are we entering maybe many dynasty territory potentially for the Lakers.
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We know LeBron is not not young, but we also know he's the Finals M v p again for the fourth time.
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So you know these next couple of seasons Western Conference is going to be difficult.
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But where does it stand for both of these teams? I think Miami can push with a nice piece that they add in the free agency for the Lakers.
00:21:31
Its's run this thing back, right? Let's see what the next two years look for.
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We could be cementing our Lakers legacy, LeBron and a D by winning two, maybe three, championships over a four year stretch.
00:21:43
Yeah, you're getting me pumped up, man.
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You're getting me excited for next season because now we're entering what would be the NBA summer right? And if the season was the end in June, we'd be entering the time where the rumor mill gets crazy and people start thinking about who could end up where and where it could shift.
00:22:01
And I was thinking about this season as far as LeBron, because there's always a narrative for LeBron haters and they're going to say Well in the West, Katie moved to Brooklyn and Clay and Steph were hurt, so they didn't have to deal with warriors.
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And then when they look at the East, they're gonna say Katie didn't even play this year. It was just Kyrie.
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He'd have the Nets coming out of the East.
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Let's see what he does next year.
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Well, let's see, because the Lakers are in Dynasty mode A.
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D and LeBron if they can keep them together.
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LeBron is 35 going on 36.
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He's gonna play for another four years and I'm gonna give him at least 2 to 3 more seasons of what we just saw takes care of his body.
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He's got the most money and the most access to things.
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Thio eat right and the terrain and be healthy like I would I would bank on at least another 2 to 3 seasons of that.
00:22:56
LeBron and A D is in his prime, so they're going to get better, right? When you look at the Lakers team, just a GIA loan, they could get younger.
00:23:06
They're gonna they're gonna draft, they're gonna make trades.
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They're gonna make moves with depending how much they can afford.
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And this that and the other.
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But like they could upgrade, uh, contagious. Caldwell.
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Pope.
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He's all right when you need him, but he's not the guy.
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Alex Caruso Like they have guys on this team. Danny Green.
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Like they could up.
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They could upgrade pretty easily with a couple moves and even getting their bench better.
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Right? There's guys on their bench.
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J R. Smith, Javale McGee.
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Jared Like some of these guys just put up zeros the whole run, by the way.
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Just getting back.
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Avery Bradley, who you had during the regular like that's an upgrade that you that you don't have to do anything for.
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He just gets to come back to the roster.
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That is gonna happen naturally.
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Gonna happen.
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So, yeah, we're talking Lakers LeBron a d dynasty mode.
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I could see it in the next five years, and he's gonna retire a Laker there and they're gonna build around LeBron so that LeBron does have the help and he doesn't have to be relied on so much.
00:24:03
They could rely on his brain.
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They can rely on his basketball i Q.
00:24:07
But have they got like if they had a better shooter, then Danny Green and not knocking Danny Green Rock fam ROC nation shout out if they had a better shooter than Danny Green.
00:24:18
Steve Kerr knocks down that shot that that way.
00:24:23
Okay, lets derail here for a second and back.
00:24:25
Things up there is what the first serious notice this.
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Any of you people out there that were saying what you were saying towards Danny Green's wife on social media? That's the kind of stuff that I could do without.
00:24:37
That's the kind of stuff that I would just a soon suck out into a vacuum of space and never hear from again, like That's just, you know, and I love passion.
00:24:44
I you know, I love.
00:24:45
I love having great, passionate conversations around basketball, but that's not what that ISS that's like, disgusting.
00:24:51
That's pretty much that lowest level.
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And the thing that I wish I never had a beer experience.
00:24:56
Biggie is a great guy.
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His brother is a great guy.
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They do camps for kids.
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They give to a lot of people from like North Carolina area to San Antonio, where he waas did stuff in Toronto, and I'm sure he's doing things in L.
00:25:09
A.
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I hate when I see it crossed that line where it's like you guys gotta think about it like we don't need any of that.
00:25:16
But yeah, go ahead. No, 100%.
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And I just you know, I don't wanna one.
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I don't wanna bring it down.
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But I also don't want to go past that and just saying, Hey, Thio, that's not the way to go.
00:25:28
Got to call it out.
00:25:29
Get a good long look in the mirror on those types of thoughts friends on then.
00:25:33
But beyond that, though, then the debate on the court was things.
00:25:37
Something this is This is This is where we'll go with it as well.
00:25:39
Close out on that debate conversation around Jordan and Braun.
00:25:43
It's fun to have this discussion, but going back just one game, everybody.
00:25:48
Oh, Michael Jordan never does that.
00:25:50
Michael Jordan takes that last shot, and it was like so Michael Jordan consistently did exactly that thing.
00:25:56
He Yeah, he threw it over to Steve Kerr so he could knock down the big look like it's such a It's such a short term, and I know a lot of people have been saying like, Listen, if you're of a certain age range and I'm a little bit older.
00:26:07
You're a couple years younger than me, but still old enough to know Michael Jordan.
00:26:10
And by the way, they just did a do***entary on this.
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You could have watched it to know all these.
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Allow these.
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I don't know all these teenage kids that, like grew up on LeBron and love them so much, and that's great.
00:26:22
But when you call out something like that, you're like, Dude, not only was it the right basketball play and it's and if Green knocks it down, you're gonna you're gonna sing the praises of LeBron for drawing the defense and kicking it to a wide open shooter like he misses the shot.
00:26:37
It's still the right basketball play.
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And by the way, it's what other superstars, especially the 1 to 1 comparison with Jordan.
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Yes, he had.
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He has done that in his career.
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He did do that in his career.
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It didn't pay off in that particular spot.
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Still nothing to knock.
00:26:51
So now we get into this debate, this conversation around LeBron and on Michael Jordan and Legacy.
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I don't know if I ever will really get to a place where I automatically say it's it's LeBron or it's Jordan.
00:27:05
I know that I love watching old footage of Jordan.
00:27:08
I know that I loved watching him growing up.
00:27:10
I know that I love watching LeBron James.
00:27:12
The one thing that I will say that I've talked about with, uh with Doug over on the Nets podcast is and he's always consistently said this.
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There's only one champion every season Onley one team gets toe win.
00:27:26
So when you could say that you got 10 bites at that apple, that in and of itself is an accomplishment.
00:27:32
And so the the idea of diminishing not winning When you get there, that doesn't That doesn't correlate for May.
00:27:38
You went there 10 times.
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You made it through the Eastern Conference, the Western Conference.
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10 times you have gone to the finals with a chance to win a chip.
00:27:47
And now that you've gotten before, if I'm gonna get swayed, if you want to say you can push me over the edge with it, it's gonna be if you get if you get five rings LeBron and you've been there 11 times and you win five finals MVPs.
00:28:01
Yeah, those scales.
00:28:02
Air starting to tip now in a certain point.
00:28:04
I just think you have to acknowledge that that he has done some things that have been as impressive and in some ways even Mawr, impressive from an overall game and what he does to impact a roster and a team is something that Jordan took a little bit more time to get you in his career and doesn't diminish either one of them.
00:28:23
But I think LeBron had that mentality much sooner in his career than maybe Jordan did.
00:28:28
The scale already tipped for me.
00:28:30
There's just too many things like I feel like I talked myself into it while I was while I was saying I'm not going one way or the other I said last night.
00:28:37
Long live the king.
00:28:39
I was old enough toe watch Jordan, an elementary school.
00:28:42
I'm old enoughto watch LeBron as an adult.
00:28:44
LeBron is, I think, three years older than me right now.
00:28:48
So maybe four will be 36 like I've seen them both, and I've seen their impact.
00:28:53
Jordan said Republicans buy sneakers to like Jordan.
00:28:58
Jordan was the same guy that, like I said in the middle of a Siris in New York, he's decided toe hit the Turnpike Parkway and go to a sea between games.
00:29:10
It's not the same.
00:29:11
You can't like you can't and I know people gonna just say Just basketball.
00:29:15
Well, you just talked about how Jordan made the right basketball playing, kicking it to somebody that was ready and hit the shot for LeBron has taken a bunch of guys two championships.
00:29:25
He's put rings on guys fingers that they had no shot of doing it any other way.
00:29:30
They had to be on the LeBron James train.
00:29:33
LeBron is a different level with four rings.
00:29:36
I think his four rings are stronger than those six rings because, like we said, he got 10 cracks at it, right, and this might be right this year. Might be.
00:29:46
Might be.
00:29:47
I think this is easily maybe that that Kyrie, Irving, Kevin Love Cleveland.
00:29:52
But I'd say that this big just a d alone.
00:29:55
This is the probably the strongest collective roster that LeBron's ever been with, and and again, I'm not.
00:30:01
I'm not gonna diminish Jordan when I make the statement.
00:30:04
You had a top 50 MBA player all time by your side for everyone.
00:30:08
Your championships, then you had one of the top 20 of his era.
00:30:12
If not, you know, I don't even know where you put them all time.
00:30:13
And Dennis Rodman defensively for the second threepeat that you run like the quality of talented, even Steve Kerr, just from a pure shooter.
00:30:21
International legend.
00:30:23
Yeah.
00:30:24
Yeah, well, you bring in those Tony Coach rather Yeah, coach way from a young mind from, like a young mind.
00:30:38
I remember growing up watching those those those teams and I In my mind, Luc Longley was, like, such a crucial component to their championships.
00:30:45
And then when I watched the last dance, I was like, Oh, that guy really didn't didn't do a whole heck of a lot city.
00:30:50
But But he was here in Jordan, Made that how he wanted to make it.
00:30:53
Maybe him and Luke got in a fight over a card game or something.
00:30:57
And he did him wrong, Little diminish.
00:30:59
But Horace Grant did Horace Grant wrong, and Horace Grant was a big part of Yeah, but what you know, and you mentioned it to about, you know, style of play and mentality around the game, I will say, Like, I I do respect and, well, it is funny, cause I was just having this conversation, and we're, uh we're on the back end of it now, friends.
00:31:17
But I was just having this conversation yesterday around the NFL and thinking about Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, two guys that do it very differently.
00:31:25
Tom Brady is probably in that LeBron James mold, right? He's doing everything for his body health diet fitness to make sure that he can maximize who he is.
00:31:35
Now, Tom Brady is not the natural skill set athlete that LeBron James is.
00:31:40
But they both want to be the best that they can be at their craft and that at their position, Aaron Rodgers arguing is like Michael Jordan man, I am one of the greatest.
00:31:49
I am one of the most talented, and when it comes time to step on the court, step on the field, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do what I dio.
00:31:54
But I'm also going to smoke some cigars.
00:31:56
I'm also, you know, I'm also gonna take my time.
00:31:58
I'm also gonna do my gambling thing, and again, it doesn't take away from either one of them.
00:32:03
But I I appreciate someone that is willing to be is dedicated to their craft and to knowing what their legacy is going to be when they leave, as LeBron James has been.
00:32:12
And even though Michael Jordan took it to his teammates on a consistent basis to get the best out of them and a lot of them, like Ron Harper said, and he got that from me, right? He did bring that out in me.
00:32:22
He did get the best out of Scottie Pippen at times, but then you hear all the other flip sides and all the other guys you don't hear from there like yeah, and also it was pretty brutal to be around him.
00:32:31
Like LeBron, James has threaded that needle of being absolutely dominant and demanding the most and also being like beloved by all of his teammates and by his peers and respected.
00:32:42
And from a legacy standpoint, that's also where I look at I go.
00:32:47
That means something.
00:32:48
You know.
00:32:49
That means Justus much as what you do and getting to the finals and making those appearances.
00:32:53
The way in which you accomplish it is just important to me and from that standpoint, LeBron gets a massive swing in his favor for always seemingly understanding what it is to be a superstar and to be a teammate and to be a collect give elevator of talent around you.
00:33:10
And he's not done.
00:33:12
He's no right.
00:33:13
I'm talking about it like he like He just announced his retirement last night, and he still got years left.
00:33:18
And like you said, I think he still has 23 years of absolute prom basketball before you start to talk about okay, a d Now you really got to become the dominant force and carry us here as we build up some other young pieces.
00:33:31
Yeah, And the Lakers, they're gonna do what they gotta do to make that team better.
00:33:34
Like I said, they know the Nets Air coming, Katie Kyrie and our whole cast.
00:33:37
They know, uh, honest is gonna move or or stay and make his team better.
00:33:42
The warriors air coming right back.
00:33:44
They're gonna have guys ready to rock the Clippers.
00:33:47
They made changes right away.
00:33:48
Fire, Doc, Like they're gonna like the NBA is gonna Reshef Reshuffle in the competition is gonna be high and the Lakers gonna be right up there.
00:33:55
If LeBron Lebron already has four, right? If LeBron can win two rings as a Laker, 12 appearances, he's gonna he's gonna keep going back to the finals.
00:34:06
That's like it's such an automatic thing.
00:34:08
We watch LeBron in the finals.
00:34:10
If LeBron isn't in the finals like last year, like I didn't even watch the finals like I usually would.
00:34:15
I think I was at Bonnaroo last year during the finals, watching on my phone like different LeBron LeBron has a chance. Thio.
00:34:23
I think if he hits five rings, the conversations over.
00:34:26
But right now, I think it's tip uh, for a lot of people myself included, because what we're seeing LeBron do on the court, off the court, his relationship with guys, these guys are fans of them.
00:34:35
These guys that he's playing with grew up watching him as fans, and now they love him as like a brother and a teammate.
00:34:41
It's awesome to see um, for me, it's LeBron James and like I said, I've seen both.
00:34:46
So Long live the King.
00:34:48
Congrats to the Lakers.
00:34:49
Congrats, Thio the MBA for a successful bubble, entertaining us all for months and completing the 2019 2020 season.
00:34:57
I enjoyed it and, uh, can't wait to see it start back up in January.
00:35:02
2020.
00:35:03
Woman, 100% Tip of the hat to Anthony Davis, who now gets his first ring as well.
00:35:07
So his legacy building process begins a new as we head into the offseason.
00:35:11
You can, of course, use the hashtag s CNN ba to get all your N b A coverage here on SportsCastr.
00:35:18
You can follow Keith McPherson at Keith Underscore McPherson.
00:35:21
You can follow me at Adam, arm wrecked and of course, I'll be back tomorrow with Matt.
00:35:25
Brooks will probably not even get into some of the X's and O's around this game as Matt Brooks is one toe.
00:35:30
Want to dio.
00:35:31
Until then, though, Man, we head into the offseason.
00:35:33
So much other exciting stuff Now.
00:35:35
Now the new season begins for the MBA.
00:35:37
What are all these teams going to do? Is we look ahead to the upcoming year? Thank you to keep McPherson.
00:35:42
Thank you to all of you for checking in with us.
00:35:44
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