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John Wallace@JohnWallace

Having been a commentator on MSG Networks for years now, "Power Forward" is where I get to expand the breadth of topics I’m able to broadcast. I love my New York Knicks, but I’m also a father, a philanthropist, and a person who believes in his heart of hearts that you should give back to your community. "Power Forward" is a podcast where this power forward hopes to help us all power forward into new ways of seeing the world.

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Juli Boeheim joins John on this episode of "Power Forward" to discuss parenthood in a time of Corona; the quest for identity in the face of societal demands; how a blue collar city like Syracuse became a philanthropic lodestar via the Jim and Julie Boeheim Foundation. And Coach makes a quick guest appearance to talk turkey... not money... but actual turkey.

Transcript

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There was so little balls around No.
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40 before four people you're listening to cover forward with John Wallace, a SportsCastr featured podcast from the rafters of the dough to the bright lights of the garden.
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Number 44 has dazzled fans for generations.
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Join him every Tuesday, live on SportsCastr when he'll sit down with former teammates, titans of industry and fascinating guests from all walks of life with his feet on the hardwood and finger on the pulse.
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Here's John Wallace Sweets.
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Additional power for my brothers and Sisters, and this week I have a very, very special guest.
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She's an absolute pillar, and the Syracuse community she went toe Kentucky, which is the only bad thing I could ever ever say about her in her life because I have real love for her.
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But Kentucky, I.
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But you know, I don't wanna go off on that tangent yet.
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We're gonna talk about that a little later.
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But Julie Julie Boeheim has done so much, and the Syracuse community, um, the Julie the Gym and Julie Boeheim Foundation is change lives up in the Syracuse community in the upstate central New York community for years and years and their charter is and I want to read this.
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Normally, I don't do this normally just go off.
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But I want to read this and I don't wanna mess it up to enrich the lives of kids in need within our central New York community, as well as provide support for eliminating cancer through research and advocacy.
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I read that I wanna get every part of that in there and and not missing any any part of that, because it's so.
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It's such an important thing and what you guys do, Julie.
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So welcome to the show.
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What's new? How you feeling? What's going on? Thank you so much.
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I'm so happy to be here.
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And I'm even happier to be here before my husband was chosen.
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So thank you, John, Make you feel so special and so agreed to see you.
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We definitely you know, Listen, go way back.
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You're my 1st 1st group, first team, you know, J dub and company.
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But everything's good, you know.
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We're just thankful.
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Every time we tipped the ball, I told Jim, I said, I don't feel like I usually do after a win or a loss.
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I think my focus is the fact that we got the ball in the air, you know? So But we have lots to be thankful for.
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All is well, we're healthy and, you know, a day at a time.
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Now, you and Coach Matt 1990 for Kentucky Derby.
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But then you came to Syracuse for grad school, right? I did.
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Yeah, when we met, I was actually working on my teacher's certificate at that terrible school that you mentioned earlier that I'm not proud of guys.
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I'm not proud.
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But I had already gotten one degree, and I decided I wanted to be a teacher going back for my teachers certificate.
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Um, we met and, uh, May of 94 and, you know, after long distance for a while and then him saying, you know, we're never going to know anything until you come and experience my life in the snow and all of that here in Syracuse.
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And I found out that I could join this masters program.
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It s you and special ed to 5 could to 5 with any undergraduate degree.
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So I'm like, Well, okay, I'm going to do it, and that's my focus, you know? And it took the pressure off of our relationship because I really was encouraged to come here and get my Masters in S U, which I'm so proud of.
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Show my coach Boeheim for putting a power move in, saying, Come on and move up here.
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Let's see what's really going on.
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I like it.
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I like it.
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Coach, You was relentless as you can.
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Of course.
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No, my mother used to say, I'm the youngest consent.
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So I'm, like, 13 and my siblings eyes forever, you know? And then they saw Jim coming in and, you know, it's like what? And my mother would say he's just recruiting you.
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He's just using, you know, fancy words and things like that.
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And then that was before any of them met him.
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And when they met him, every single one of them was like, This guy is awesome.
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I might see he got you to, but yeah, he's pretty relentless when he wants something on.
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Once you get to know a coach and he opens up a little bit, which he he's kind of opening up, not really opening up.
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But once he gets to talk to you a little bit, you realize He's a really, really good person and he's genuine.
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I'm sure that's what your family saw.
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Yeah, I mean, he is Lions New York.
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I mean, he's never change.
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Nothing is gonna change him.
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And I love that about him. There's no ego.
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There's no assumption.
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He never assumes people know who he is.
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Um, you know, it's just a normal life.
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He's a normal guy.
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Hey, happens to do something extraordinary.
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Well, extraordinarily well.
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And I think that is what makes him so different in people's eyes.
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But, um, yeah, a lot of people are after they made us They're like, Wow, you're so nice.
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You're so and I'm like, Yeah, we're so average, you know, It's kind of disappointing, right? Just regular people salt of the earth type people.
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And that's what you want.
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What else is there exactly exactly? Is there so Yeah, Jim's awesome.
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He is people.
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I'll tell you what.
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The players post Julie appreciate you because the pre Julie Boeheim players like myself and I'm not I I wasn't on the receiving end of Vinny this but coach was a much different, much more stern.
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And, you know, before he met you.
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So we appreciate you making him a soft, gentle signing.
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Like I've told you before.
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I wish you came a little earlier because you brought good luck.
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You won a national championship once you came on.
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Oh, no.
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But we went to the Final Four.
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Hey, and we play Kentucky.
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So listen, you can't even dream that stuff.
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But Derrick Coleman says now he's too soft, so I don't know.
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Everyone's too soft for Derek.
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Now.
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It's like yourself.
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I've been dipping my toe in tow, being more philanthropically over the years, and you've been doing it for a very long time.
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Like I mentioned earlier, the gym and Julie behind Foundation has been an incredible asset to Central New York for a very long time.
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But where did this? Where did your philanthropically ways and feeling start? Where did it? What's the origin of that? Well, it started with Jim.
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John had never done anything fundraising.
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And when I met Jim, he was so into coaches versus cancer.
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And, you know, I would watch him get up early, go speak to a company for, you know, a couple 100 bucks.
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I mean, anything he could do, he did it, and I watched that little by little, I got involved, and I mean, it was just the best thing ever that's happened in my life.
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Is being a part of that philanthropy.
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And watching Jim's heart, you know, to do this is it's it's really amazing And he's It's like, you know, you get addicted to this thing you know, Thio helping him.
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We all have that ability, one way or the other to help others.
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But really, he introduced me to it.
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Um, later on American Cancer Society asked me, Toe host a gala and chair a gallon.
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I said, Listen, I don't know anything about that.
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Um, it was really scary and overwhelming.
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And then I found the perfect co chair Thio come alongside us and and we just had our 21st gala virtually.
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Um, we changed, you know, we did American Cancer Society for, you know, the Gallup for that for 11 years, and then we did.
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Then we transition to our foundation.
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But all the dollars day local, um, it was a leap of faith when we did that when we transitioned and, um let go of the American Cancer Society.
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It's a reputable organization.
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We knew we were starting our own foundation.
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Well, there's a little gray area there.
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What are they going to do with it? Are they going to make good on the money? But all of that those years and with the American Cancer Society, Um, I think we earned everyone's trust.
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Or we gained everyone's trust with what we would do and could do with the dollars.
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And so that's, you know, it's just been beyond our wildest dreams.
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Jim really wanted to start the foundation.
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He wanted control over all of the dollars.
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Hey, wants to help kids in our community.
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That's probably first and foremost in his heart.
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Cancer.
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Yes, Um, and we do both, but we can just see that impact that these dollars have on kids lives and Syracuse.
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So we've given out almost $6 million.
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I can't believe it in these almost 10 years that we've been a foundation, and I mean, I I can't I have to check the numbers today.
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And when our administrator text me that figure, I go.
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Are you sure you better double check? I mean, I can't believe it. I'm so excited.
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So that is awesome.
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And Coach Boeheim never brags.
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But the one thing he will brag about is the amount of money that Syracuse community rages as a whole.
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Like like I've been, You know, I've been at your gallons before over the years.
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And I remember mentioning that one of the galaxy, how much money they had raised that particular year, like it doubled or tripled what all the blue bloods were raising that year.
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And I remember that vividly because the blue bloods they get all this recognition.
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They get all these all these props but Syracuse And what Coach Boeheim is is created up there in terms of the giving back and it Z not.
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Ah, it's not a big metropolitan cities, not like overly thriving with people.
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But it's just hard working people who appreciate Coach Boeheim and they respect him and they give and they give every year special.
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You said it, John.
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I mean, it is one of the most giving communities were blue collar.
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We you're right.
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We're not, you know, thriving.
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We're not, you know, we're poverty stricken in many areas, held in a hard hat.
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Yeah, so I mean, with American cancer society and coaches versus cancer, it's a competition among coaches across the country, and Syracuse won every year.
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We B e right? How could I even second that, you know? I mean, it just says everything about this community, and it is all about the community.
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This isn't me or Jim.
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It's It's this community and their willingness toe any up every time it is.
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Yeah, and that's part of why we have the greatest fans in the world.
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All tight end. It's all right.
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It's the same people.
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It's amazing.
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Let's talk a little bit more about the cove it because no, we were all I remember texting you soon as I heard, you know and you got let me know coaches doing all right.
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But, you know, Coach Boeheim came down with with Covert, and Buddy came into close proximity with someone who had it.
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Luckily, he didn't have it.
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He's back playing, but this is really affected and turned up a lot of turned up, upside down a lot of people's lives.
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Now, how was it for you being that you're trying to take care of your husband, our coach, but not catch it? And I give it to your kids? Eso and I know you have a nice sized house.
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So did you have Did he have his own quarters? His own room Where you're sliding food under the door like that? One of those, like Little's like Bill, like, have a carpet to come out and cut a hole in the door to slide his food like what was going on.
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And they I'm household while he was co vid positive.
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You know what? I took my chances because he can't make it without me.
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Don't you know that I I know that 100% that and that's I'm not I'm not dealing in hyperbole 100%.
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We all know that.
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Well, you know, I did sleep in the guest room, which is right across the hall from our bedroom, and I You know, this thing can change.
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So I would I would every day and be like, you feel any different.
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Does your chest feel different? Are you feeling you know, like you could get your breath? Because I feel great.
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And he did.
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He felt totally normal, But I knew, and I knew I would have to quarantine, you know, I was quarantining the whole thymus.
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Well, so I never left the house.
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He got released before I did.
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I still had to quarantine longer.
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Um, but no, You know, we did keep our distance as much as possible, but, um, you know, I think it's so very difficult to isolate from each other when you're in the same house.
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I know people do it, and it has been done.
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I don't know how successfully it's been done.
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I know people have tried to use I think that people are successful doing that, Julie, not to cut you off for the people who already don't like each other.
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Yeah, they're kind of opposite into this in their house.
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Anyway, you're you're probably right.
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And when we knew he had it, I said, Well, it's too late now, you know, now I'll get in the guest room.
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But you no way had been to dinner and he were sharing bites And how I didn't get it.
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I don't know, Um, but, you know, I'm so relieved that he got it and he just breezed right through it.
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I'm so thankful for that.
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And now I don't have to worry about him for 90 days.
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You can't get it again.
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You know, there's been only, like, four cases in the world have gotten it again that soon, and I think even the window is expanded to 150 days.
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But I'm just looking at 90 right now.
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Um, and then I don't have to worry about him.
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And if I thought Buddy could have handled it the same way Jim did, it would have been, you know, I don't want him to get it, But if you think if we knew ahead of time, okay, you're going to get it, and you're gonna be just fine.
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Well, it's kind of like, Okay, let me do this.
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And then I can move on without the world, you have to worry as much.
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But it's so tragic, the stories out there and the loss beyond what we can even comprehend.
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So I say that, um, you know, I really shouldn't even probably say that, because insensitivity thio those stories.
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But there's a lot of other stories, many, many stories of people who have gotten it like Jim or asymptomatic completely, which he had this sniffles for 24 hours.
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That was about it.
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But, you know, it's just who would have thought.
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It's just it's just tragic, but I'm hoping we come back better than ever.
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You know, I just want us to come back better, and we will, because that's what we do.
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Yeah.
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So we were just talking about your gallery that you do every year.
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And this year you have to do it virtual because of the obvious reasons.
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But is this correct? You guys were still able to raise $500,000 virtually.
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You please talk, Talk how you pull that off.
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And I mean, that just once again speaks to the Syracuse fans, and it's Syracuse community and the Syracuse way.
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I mean, it's just awesome. It's awesome.
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Well, you know, I can't.
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I was I started watching Jimmy Fallon after he came here to the game where we retired your jersey.
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John, that was such a special day in game.
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You know, we didn't win, but, heck, nothing could weigh avenged that loss a week later in a C. C.
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Yes, we did.
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Jim is still talking about that plan, so it just all came full circle.
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But honoring through was the highlight, and the game could never touch that.
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So, um, you know so proud of you and so deserving John.
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Really awesome eso Jimmy Fallon had been to that game and I wanted to see if he was going to give us a shout out.
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And then I noticed he was doing his show from home.
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And I'm like, I wonder if we could ever do that because we were on the French of just canceling this thing altogether, which is really hard to walk away from.
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We already had dollars and we already had about $200,000 in with sponsorships alone.
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So when I saw that, I'm like, who could carry this? And I reached out to Nico to Marine, his Sports and NBC three SportsCastr, and within two hours they came back to me and said, We want to do this and we couldn't have done it without them.
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They organized it.
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They aired it live.
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It aired in Rochester and Albany.
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So we reached thousands of people where we normally just get about 700 people at our gala way had a we had thousands of people in our gala, which was just unbelievable.
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I mean, really, in the end, it was just like so great and to raise the almost $600,000 that we did.
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I'm just so thankful that we were able to do it.
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But it took everybody and that That begins and ends with NBC three and all the people that stepped up and donated across the country.
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You know, really, it was crazy.
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It's a true testament to both of you guys and what you've done and how much people support you and continue to support you guys so well, we got out to the June Jim and Julie behind foundation for what you guys have been doing for so many years.
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Well, thank you so much.
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It's an honor and that we're just we feel so we feel so humbled by all of it.
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We just can't say enough about it now.
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Now the one silver lining.
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And like you said, you know, there's you always want to mention that there's so many people are dying and so many people sick with this cove.
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It, um But I feel like the one silver lining and all this is we're talking a little bit more family time and you're at home or, um so how how are you coping you got? You got all the kids home now I know.
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Jimmy entered a trance reporter.
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Did he make a decision? Yet? We know what he's doing.
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What Sissy Jamie like what? Zusi's home from school.
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She she stopped playing at University of Rochester.
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She decided, You know that just yeah, she just She played one year and you know, she After winning three state titles in in high school, um, she had a losing season and Rochester, which that didn't really come into play.
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But she just said, Mom, I don't know that I want to play anymore, you know? And we never wanted to feel we didn't want any of our kids ever to feel pressure to play, You know? Um, Jim said, I want them to play a sport.
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It doesn't have to be basketball.
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Well, that's what he said.
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I don't know what it would.
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You know it, but it worked out.
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But you know, so she became the team manager last year, and then this year, she said, I think I'm good.
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She's working the in the equipment room at Rochester, so she's still tied to athletics.
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Very happy there.
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So we're happy for her she is, um, Jimmy's coming on Friday, finishing up school work, and he did enter the portal.
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You know, we're really disappointed that the Ivies did not, you know, want to try this, you know, they did not want to try to play through covert, like every other conference in the country is, except for them, so very disappointing.
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Um, it takes money and time and effort, and they didn't want to put, you know, they think they have.
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They have the abundance of Yeah, the other one, the effort they just had to put forth.
00:19:52
Yeah, right.
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And, you know, I think that they're angle is what we want to keep our players safe.
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Well, we've determined that the kids are safer at school.
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Then they are at home, you know, and we've determined that playing is safe.
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80% of game for being played successfully.
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Kids were safe, so we won't go down that road.
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But, you know, Jim's already kind of publicly said, you know, for people to be that smart Ivy leagues, it was not an intelligent decision, and you did not care about your athletes.
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There's just no two ways about it.
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So So you know the silver lining in that is that the play is granted everybody an extra year, and Jimmy will graduate from Cornell and play next year somewhere.
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Cornell, Ivy Lee.
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I mean, that's a That's a degree that I mean, you put that up on the front lawn, you don't put it on the mantle.
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You put that on the front lawn.
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E agree.
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We're so proud of him. He's in finance.
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And the Dyson business school is one of the best in the country, and he's got almost a four point out.
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He's a smart kid.
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She can handle all that behind money.
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Okay.
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00 you are funny.
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So funny.
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Uh huh.
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You're talking about Jimmy, and I wanna even though we know about but because we were seeing him a little bit on TV, and we know a situation because, you know, absolutely all follow Syracuse, but, you know, speak about how it's been with him at home and all that.
00:21:32
Yeah, buddy, You know, he's up with the guys, he comes home.
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Maybe on Sunday since then tonight, here.
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But that's about it.
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And we don't see him, so he Yeah, they've been up there since July.
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Well, I'll tell you what, Being a former player up there once you're on the campus, once you're at Syracuse, it's hard to leave e.
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I have 20 minutes away in a nice house.
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It's hard to leave that you'd rather you'd rather sleep on a like a messed up for air mattress s.
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Oh, my gosh.
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Buddy could care less about his sheets, his clothes, his room.
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E made the mistake so way.
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All the mothers and the parents moved him.
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And in July, um, they were all so happy to get back.
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And Jim was, too, because he's been worrying about them since March.
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You know, they went home in March, which was just We were thinking, like, two weeks.
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We'll be back.
00:22:27
Yeah, I think we were all thinking a couple weeks.
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This will be over with.
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It wasn't till July.
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So he really worried about the guys? Um was so thankful to get them back.
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And, um, so July, we moved him in.
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I went up there.
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I made the mistake on Saturday.
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I just buddy.
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But he said, Mom, if you get a chance, can you come up and, you know, just check on my room and things, and I'm like, Oh, boy, that must It must be bad because he's been saying, Oh, it's fine, it's fine, It's fine.
00:22:59
So I went up on Saturday, seven hours of cleaning.
00:23:04
Wow.
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So I probably shouldn't be saying this publicly, but you know, guys, I mean, you know it.
00:23:12
Z and I know moms and I wanted it perfect. Exactly.
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And it's not just guys is college guys like when you're in college, you come home and you just throw things off and you do the smell test, and that's when things air clean or not.
00:23:26
You know, that's how guys roll your exactly guy Oh my goodness.
00:23:32
And to throw a step away or take trash out is like they don't even see it.
00:23:36
I don't think so.
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I'm feeling when active reason you can't do that.
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Just leave a pile and pile and grow Mole.
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Oh my goodness, it is so true.
00:23:47
We do have some really clean guys on our team to, but we also have those that don't care like buddy, so I'm feeling better about everything having done that.
00:23:57
But But he's, you know, they're happy.
00:23:59
Life is kind of boring, especially with the isolation thing.
00:24:04
They really have to stay in their rooms as much as possible.
00:24:07
Eso they're doing that.
00:24:09
Everybody's gone, except for women's basketball and men.
00:24:12
And they live kind of close in the same apartment complexes.
00:24:16
You know, now that they moved to University Village.
00:24:18
You knew that, right, John? That they're not in the on south anymore.
00:24:23
Well, there on south.
00:24:24
But these apartments air right in front of where you guys lived to live in south, right? Of course.
00:24:30
I was on for maker.
00:24:32
Yeah.
00:24:33
So we've been there.
00:24:35
These guys who have lived there and then last year.
00:24:37
It was a year ago. July.
00:24:39
We got to move into university Village apartments, granite countertops, bedroom, four bathroom.
00:24:46
Everybody has their own bathroom.
00:24:49
It is so unbelievable.
00:24:52
Why you gotta I gotta I gotta plateau move in there or something.
00:24:57
E? Yes.
00:25:00
There's so nicely.
00:25:01
Adrian actually came here first.
00:25:02
That's where they lived until they found a house.
00:25:04
I mean, it is super nice.
00:25:06
So it was only it was the only missing link in our recruiting.
00:25:09
Really? So, um, we were allowed to get men's and women's basketball and football over there, and it's been just so helpful and amazing.
00:25:18
So you know, the guys.
00:25:21
The guys were grumbling because when they first got here summer before last, they had to start out at South and And I you know, I'm like, guys, stick this out.
00:25:30
Your ending What? You know, like you're the end of what every player knows, You know, you're the end of an era, you know, for our guys to live on South and all the great balance, all the great guys that came before you.
00:25:44
And, you know, anybody did love it.
00:25:47
He said, Mom, it was fun over there.
00:25:49
But I love are set up over here way better.
00:25:52
But even Max has said some of my best memories are from South, you know, because we do have some.
00:25:57
We have some parents of recruits who I want them to live in the dorm, experienced the dorm and all of that.
00:26:03
Well, this is like, you know, you're still close to students.
00:26:07
You're basically in a dorm, you know, set because you're just all together in the same building.
00:26:12
But anyway, we're thankful for that.
00:26:15
And but he's staying over there and happy and working hard and, um, you know, he loves the guys.
00:26:22
He's a happy go lucky kid.
00:26:24
He loves SpongeBob.
00:26:25
I mean, he's He's an interesting kid.
00:26:29
He's It's funny how 30 years ago, South Campus was like one of the literally topped 23 recruiting tools in the country in terms of having your own apartment off, you know, not living in the dorm.
00:26:44
And now it's like it's like an afterthought.
00:26:47
It's like, You know, you guys have upgraded so much.
00:26:49
That's where it is just a testament to where our school is.
00:26:53
Uh is now and we're sprinting towards, and that's a That's a beautiful thing, E.
00:26:59
I got a I got a quick question for you because there's a There's a little rumor going around that Coach Boeheim has been working on his backstroke and swimming and stuff.
00:27:07
And if that's true, please do not allow him to wear Speedos.
00:27:12
And she does wear speed was on Lee.
00:27:15
When you're around, that's it.
00:27:17
A person allowed to see him in no Speedos.
00:27:20
I don't even want to see that John.
00:27:25
Oh, yeah, This summer.
00:27:29
Listen, we have a pool here and I have bagged him, you know, I've got I've got the heater on its cranked up Come feel this temperature.
00:27:37
He just He would always say, I don't love to swim.
00:27:39
I mean, he would get him when the kids were young.
00:27:41
He's gotten in maybe here or there.
00:27:43
So he got in this summer, swam every single day belt and love with it, Um, for his joints, for everything that he does.
00:27:53
The Pilates is well, so I mean, it was such a great combination of things.
00:27:57
So we have that workout pool at school where it's got the treadmill underneath like that.
00:28:04
So he was missing it.
00:28:05
So next thing I know, he's got our trainer, you know, opening that pool up for him to get in and swim in, and then he came up with this idea of doing a lap pool here, Um, so we're doing one of those smaller ones where the current, you know, runs against you, and you just basically stay in place, but you do your strokes.
00:28:26
So that's in the works right now.
00:28:28
So I'm really proud of him for, you know, staying active, and and he hasn't always been, you know, he took some years off where he really wasn't doing much.
00:28:37
He's got bad knees, so he's limited in what he can dio.
00:28:40
He walks about 10 miles at practice, though, you know, up and down the court.
00:28:45
Um, well, he used to.
00:28:47
Now he kind of stands off in the distance.
00:28:49
Everything's so different, cause a covert.
00:28:50
But so, yeah, I mean, you know, we said Mark Spitz to the kids, and they're like, who were, like, way Michael Phelps.
00:29:00
So that's what we're calling him now.
00:29:07
Way have a lot of laughs around here, but, you know, with this Kobe thing, I call it Bonus mom time.
00:29:14
I have definitely.
00:29:15
And I think that's how moms and dads need to look at it.
00:29:17
Bonus, parent time bonus family has been.
00:29:21
I think we're gonna look back, and it's unfortunate that so much of life is in hindsight, but I think we're gonna look back on this and say, you know and see Wow, you know, that was pretty awesome.
00:29:31
There are lots of blessings in the middle of the storm, you know, Ah, lot, and you have to look for them and you have to appreciate them and and I think they're going to shout out at to us, you know, as time goes.
00:29:43
But, you know, I'm constantly looking and trying to be aware of those blessings that air that air right there, you know, as a result of something bad, absolutely.
00:29:54
Getting away from the swimming pool and back to the basketball court.
00:29:59
A Z you're talking about earlier.
00:30:01
You know, Cornell Ni v league as the whole collectively, they're not playing this year.
00:30:06
And even when I was there, there was always a Syracuse Cornell game.
00:30:10
We played them on every year.
00:30:12
And this, you know, now over the last two years and would have been the third year this year, you would have had, you know, your son on each team, which I mean, I couldn't imagine, you know, that di economy, like, both.
00:30:28
So for you, how is it you know, being a mother, that's tourney, because you want both of them the win.
00:30:34
But that's impossible.
00:30:36
So if the one who loses just as long as he has a good game is but he still lost to his brother, no matter how you look at it.
00:30:44
So how do you handle that situation? Um, for the Cornell in Syracuse game, which normally happens every year.
00:30:51
Yes, well, you know, it was an out of body experience.
00:30:54
And to think how many years we've been watching Cornell play Syracuse and I told Jim we never dreamed we'd had a kid, you know, playing on Cornell.
00:31:03
It was like, Wow, you know, But how incredible.
00:31:07
You know, it was just so awesome.
00:31:09
And, you know, the first year was really difficulty.
00:31:13
I mean, I didn't sleep for days going in, and my goal was, you know, for I needed Syracuse toe win because the gym, you know, But I wanted both kids.
00:31:26
Thio, you know, do well.
00:31:28
I wanted Jimmy to score 50.
00:31:30
You know, I said to everybody Jimmy scores 50 and Syracuse winds were good, you know, Um but he didn't the first year, but he didn't get to play that much.
00:31:38
The second year was another story, and you know, them guarding each other at times and just like, wow.
00:31:44
I mean, and their storyline coming full circle from this room that I'm in right now is my office.
00:31:49
But it used to be a playroom.
00:31:51
And let me tell you, they had some battles and starting at little kids two years old.
00:31:58
You know I love it.
00:32:00
It's just like, Wow.
00:32:02
I mean, these were like dreams that you couldn't even come up with.
00:32:07
Like, I never had this dream on my radar, you know, makes it even a bigger blessing.
00:32:13
And for the boys and just and Jim to be a part of that.
00:32:17
Although it's it was stressful for him, you know, he wanted every shot you know is if you don't, you can't, like, cut off your parent side.
00:32:25
You know, um, we want what our kids want.
00:32:28
We want our kids to be successful.
00:32:30
So let me tell you every second of the game, Jim, that's somewhere inside of him, you know, with buddy playing.
00:32:38
And when in that game, you know, you want your kid to be successful even when they're playing against you, you know, But But then he switches right back in that that's That's only for a split second.
00:32:51
You know, he can't cut the coach part out either in the competitiveness that he has.
00:32:55
And even Jimmy was so disappointed because they almost beat us.
00:32:58
I think it was last year.
00:33:00
Well, maybe they say I can't remember the games were closed, Not bad.
00:33:03
And Jimmy's like Jimmy.
00:33:05
Jim's like Jimmy.
00:33:06
How could you? You know, I want to win so badly against, you know, your dad and all that I'm like, Well, Jim is because he's just like you.
00:33:15
You know, Jimmy is Jimmy's so much like his dad.
00:33:17
But, you know, the dynamics of that were just incredible.
00:33:21
And I'm so thankful for the for that memory.
00:33:25
You know, I'm sad that we didn't get it this year, but, you know, we'll see what next year brings.
00:33:30
No now, I mentioned earlier that you and Coach 1980 1994 at the Kentucky Derby.
00:33:37
Now, as people know, the Kentucky Derby is like you get all glamorous and fabulous and your best outfit for the year.
00:33:47
So I'm sure you were dressed up fancy.
00:33:49
Had nice.
00:33:50
Now, before you Coach wasn't known for its fashion.
00:33:54
You know, the plaque clothes, the glasses.
00:33:57
So I'm hoping he, because I already gave him props, were telling you basically made a power move like Look, bring your butt up toa que see what is really about.
00:34:06
And let's make this thing really, and you did so How was his gear at the Kentucky Derby? Was he up to par? Well, you know, we actually met the night of the Derby, but I've seen pictures of him he had on the nice tie and, yeah, he looked, He looked nice.
00:34:22
His glasses were way too big and we needed to make some changes and things like that.
00:34:28
The mad matched and he didn't have any Platt on.
00:34:30
So there's a start way met that night at a friend's house and a little party I didn't even want to go to.
00:34:37
We were on our way to dinner, my family and a couple of basketball people in Kentucky, and we made a stop and I was dressed up, you know, we were kind of dressed up, and he was casual by then.
00:34:49
But, um, you know, it was it was a handful of basketball people.
00:34:56
You know that we're famous if you want to use that word.
00:35:00
I don't like to use that word, but on dime at him and he, you know, he was He was so interesting.
00:35:06
I was so drawn to him as just like an interesting guy.
00:35:09
Wasn't like, Oh, my gosh, He's you know I got I've got a crush on him.
00:35:13
I think he's really, you know, wasn't any of that? Um, but yeah.
00:35:17
I mean, he he's come a long way, John.
00:35:20
He's come a long way, and right after that, you know, after we started talking and, you know, whatever, um, it was long distance, You know, we would have these four our conversations on the phone after we met.
00:35:31
And I think the way I'm getting it in, I love it.
00:35:35
It was crazy.
00:35:37
Oh, my gosh.
00:35:38
It was like high school when you used to fall asleep on the phone talk, get sore.
00:35:43
You had to switch gears.
00:35:44
Yeah.
00:35:45
I mean, it was like it was his marathon phone conversations and e think you get to know about each other back for that way, you know, and better.
00:35:54
And it was just so great.
00:35:55
Um, so little by little, I'm like, what about these glasses? I had him were mock turtlenecks.
00:36:01
I mean, it was like, Wow, he was so open to it, you know? And I think he started liking it, too.
00:36:08
And now, now, at the end of the day, I'm like I've turned him into a diva.
00:36:11
I mean, his closet.
00:36:12
We had to add on to our house for his closet, which, because way moved.
00:36:19
Boeheim is rakish now.
00:36:21
Way moved in here.
00:36:27
It was too tiny closets.
00:36:29
And it was frustrating because he couldn't.
00:36:32
You know when? When? When I met him, he lived at the point is, And he had a really nice size closet, Big walk in closet.
00:36:38
So, you know, we needed to do it.
00:36:40
I mean, it sounds a little lavish, but it was really unnecessary.
00:36:44
And, um, you know, and he depends on me to pick his clothes out and have them out. I'm ready to go.
00:36:49
It's one less thing for him to think about, and it's really the only thing I could do to help him.
00:36:53
He doesn't listen to my game plan or anything.
00:36:56
John.
00:36:57
Give it, though.
00:36:58
I still give it to him after the game, No doubt.
00:37:02
20 20 now, why didn't you? And he defends everything he did, and only he could say something negative about one of you guys.
00:37:12
Even if I agree with him, he doesn't like that.
00:37:16
No, I found I know that personally, Uh, the only time he and I have ever had a situation.
00:37:21
Was I? I shouldn't have said what I said about a player on and he corrected me and I because, you know, um, you want you want you want coach, and you want the team to win so much that you you almost forget that the players playing wanted to trying to mess up, you know? So you almost lose sight of that sometimes and try to get brought back to reality a little bit.
00:37:48
So I know exactly talking about Yeah, you know what? But that just shows his heart for you guys.
00:37:54
I mean, if you just players to the end, you know that.
00:37:56
Oh, my God.
00:37:58
I mean, listen, it is amazing.
00:38:01
And I just hope you guys know how much and how deeply he loves and cares for you guys.
00:38:07
And it doesn't matter what the situation Waas what was said? What happened? None of it.
00:38:13
Matt, Like he never holds a grudge with you guys.
00:38:18
Um, when he had covered a former player from way back, who I don't know, I didn't meet, called him to apologize for transferring while he was here.
00:38:29
And I think Jim having Cove had made him think, you know, gosh, Coach was just never He's just been there for me all the time and and there I up and left and transferred.
00:38:39
I shouldn't have.
00:38:40
And I guess he was dealing with the skills and he called, and I I didn't know who Jim was talking to, but I heard his end, and it was just so, you know, warm and loving and appreciative of this kid reaching out.
00:38:52
Or now he's a man, this man reaching out to him to apologize for something like that.
00:38:58
Meanwhile, Jim was like, Don't even give it a thought.
00:39:01
You know, there's no issues here it all and I have nothing but the best for you.
00:39:05
And you know e mean it's just, um it's I think it's what keeps him coming back, you know, is growing these guys into people that you are today.
00:39:19
I mean, we've seen so many great success stories over the years, got kids that come in and their story is, is what it is.
00:39:28
And they leave here.
00:39:30
I mean, amazing.
00:39:31
It is just amazing what Syracuse University and then Jim being the father figure that he is and the tough love.
00:39:40
You know, that really helps.
00:39:44
And it means the world to him.
00:39:46
I mean, he loves you guys like you're his own and he's gonna protect you.
00:39:51
And, you know, you stand up for you all that have your back all the time throughout your life.
00:39:59
As long as he is here, he is going to do that.
00:40:02
And he's proven that over and over time and time again from through numerous, numerous players, you know? And I'm one of them, you know? So we truly appreciate it, and we try to reciprocate it as much as we can.
00:40:16
Yeah, well, and you know, just you guys being around and staying in touch is, you know, that's that's that's what he likes.
00:40:22
Uh, you know, buddy, when But But he grew up, you know, at practice he grew he our kids have grown up, you know, running around manly and then Melo and playing hide and seek and and watching.
00:40:35
And then, you know, getting older, working out, watching the team, you know, they can't get enough of it, especially the boys.
00:40:41
And when Buddy first buddies first summer practice, when it started our first year of practice, you know, around October.
00:40:49
So he was here.
00:40:50
And I'm like, but, you know, you're used to dad and seeing Dad at practice, but playing for him, you know, I said, how is he as a coach, What do you think now that you're up close and personal on? But he looked at me and he goes, Mom, he is awesome.
00:41:04
He's the best.
00:41:05
And I'm like, that meant so much to hear because But he could have said, Mommy is great.
00:41:11
I mean, he's always been good.
00:41:12
I mean, you know, you know how he is. He is good.
00:41:14
It's good, it's fine.
00:41:15
But he didn't.
00:41:16
He stopped and he just was so emphatic about that.
00:41:21
And I'm like, Wow, I mean, that I needed to hear that.
00:41:26
I mean, I loved it coming from buddy, You know, your kids, your worst credit, you know, And he was just so heartfelt about it.
00:41:35
And I mean, and that's sad.
00:41:38
You know, people all the time, coaches the ultimate players coach, really, really is, um, you know, in a in a lot of that is a credit to yourself because, like I said, I've seen both sides of him obviously.
00:41:53
And you know, since you've been around and since you've been, uh, Mrs Boeheim, he's definitely and, uh, you know, just a just a just a more gentler, nicer person.
00:42:06
And like I said, it didn't affect me because we didn't have any issues or situations.
00:42:11
Eso I got, I got I got the same guy that I'm getting today that I got 30 years ago.
00:42:17
It didn't change with me, but certain people that did and and I'm sure they were here, they would thank you to Julie.
00:42:23
Well, I don't know.
00:42:24
He's made me better, you know? It works both ways, for sure, Let me tell you.
00:42:28
And he's such a great dad.
00:42:29
And in many instances, he's more patient, kind and loving than I am And some of those, you know, hair raising situation.
00:42:37
Walden Sissy. I'm sure.
00:42:39
Yeah.
00:42:40
Yeah, Well, the girls you know, in general, we are born like this, you know? So he's just been so awesome with her, But even the boys, I mean, I am amazed at some of his parenting skills and situations where I just you know, I'll like fly off the handle and here he comes in quiet um, you know, just simple.
00:43:06
It works.
00:43:07
It works every time.
00:43:08
And it's been He's just He's been a great dad and, um, you know, we're so different.
00:43:15
I'm conservative.
00:43:16
He's a little more open minded, but it works.
00:43:19
And I think that's the beauty of opposites attract.
00:43:22
But, um, you know, So he's pretty awesome.
00:43:25
I will say that he's He's definitely I'm, you know, made me a better person for sure.
00:43:31
And, you know, with with guys and with him in particular, you know, if I've made a difference, I would say it's only an encouraging him to love out loud, you know, be comfortable showing that love showing that and work and and even, you know, some situations.
00:43:47
It's hard to do that, you know, I even will run into that.
00:43:50
You know where it's like kind of challenging to feel confident or comfortable, you know, being that, um, kind and loving person outward late.
00:43:58
And so I think he's wanted to be that way, you know, and he's challenged himself to be that way more in some situations now, some he can't help himself, you know he's gonna fly off the handle.
00:44:14
It's a competitive fire that we still love.
00:44:18
He's got it, He's got it. It's crazy.
00:44:22
But this is my second red statement on powerful. Whatever.
00:44:26
The first one, I messed up a little bit and couldn't find it.
00:44:29
But this one, I hope family do a little bit better.
00:44:31
But the reason I'm gonna read this one because it's a statement with a question at the end And I don't wanna, uh, miss any words again like this is something that you know, kind of powerful, and we're gonna be switching speeds and lanes a little bit.
00:44:43
So here in power for we talk a lot about Syracuse In basketball, we also discuss parenting from a serious perspective, and we dive, dive into topics that can be a little heavy.
00:44:55
And now, eso.
00:44:57
I like to get into one of those topics with you right now.
00:45:00
Julie, we're on the were on the precipice of the year 2021 which sounds like a year out of a science fiction novel.
00:45:08
Yeah, in many ways, it feels like where are stuck in a pass more so than living in the future.
00:45:16
Last week I had Etan Thomas on the show.
00:45:19
Your time is obviously a great basketball player.
00:45:21
Syracuse in the n b a vet, but he's also a very smart, thoughtful leader.
00:45:27
And he's written some books, one of them being called more than an athlete, which speaks right to the You know that that whole thing, that dumb jocks, you know, he's more than an athlete, which I love the title.
00:45:42
I didn't know that he wrote that book before LeBron and them were making it popular.
00:45:48
Wait, So talking about that and yet the American now this is a good word for you are my department dug this word up.
00:45:57
Yet the American hegemony still feels that I'm a black athlete and my role in society is just to shut up and dribble.
00:46:06
Do you feel yourself facing any similar struggles against the mainstream power structure? That is what is like to be a coach's wife.
00:46:15
Have you embraced that role the coach's wife, while simultaneously using your creativity and your education, your master's degree and everything You come in Syracuse for to develop your own identity? What do you say to that? You, um you know, I say that I every all good things come to an end and you know I am.
00:46:38
I am married to Jim, who happens to be a coach.
00:46:41
I am a coach's wife.
00:46:43
But I worked really hard not to make that who I am like that.
00:46:48
My identity.
00:46:49
I mean, I'm so many different things than that, you know? And because all good things come to an end, We have to prepare for life after, Like you did, John.
00:47:01
Life after sports.
00:47:03
And that's a really tough thing to do. The transition.
00:47:07
Was it hard? Was it hard for you? Honestly, it wasn't because I was setting it up a couple of years prior because, you know, the writing's on the wall.
00:47:15
I knew it was gonna kinda end sometimes soon.
00:47:17
So right? Yeah.
00:47:20
And so we have to do that.
00:47:22
You know, um, if you make your entire being about what you did at Syracuse and beyond, um, that's not gonna work for very long, you know? And so I think you know what we what we're doing in the community and all the other aspect of of our person is setting us up for life after whatever our identity might be to the public right now, you know, it definitely I'm a coach.
00:47:50
People see me and they identify me.
00:47:52
Is being, you know, Jim's wife and and all of that and that's fine.
00:47:56
What that does for me is it opens doors for people to feel like they want to come up and talk to me or share a story.
00:48:03
Or then they think about the foundation.
00:48:06
You know, maybe we help someone that they know or you know, all those things.
00:48:09
So, um, you know, I worry a little bit about our kids are boys, you know, because But they see you guys doing great things.
00:48:19
And after basketball, you know, Um, so again, I just think, um, what is your identity? It has to be more than you know what what you do.
00:48:32
It has to be who you are.
00:48:34
Yeah.
00:48:35
Um, how are you building on all of these things? You know, for us, this basketball thing is a great platform to build on and do when we won the when we won the championship, I'll never forget on the plane, Jim said, Let's go home and capitalize on this for the good of the community eyes.
00:48:55
Exactly what he said.
00:48:56
It wasn't well, our lives were changed forever, which I've heard coaches say.
00:49:00
And it does change, you know, it changes your life, but and I really am.
00:49:05
I mean, only toe where you have this thing really solid platform that you can just reach people from and help people, you know.
00:49:15
And so that's what his mindset was after that.
00:49:18
And I'm so thankful for that that he is that guy.
00:49:22
He is made that way, and and it's helped.
00:49:25
It's helped us as a family and many other people as a result.
00:49:29
But, um, you know, life is fragile and what we hold near and dear, it better be something substantial and long lasting because everything else is leading, you know, it slips right through our fingertips being the mother of young Children.
00:49:45
Well, that lasted for about a second, you know? Do I want that back? Yeah, I missed that.
00:49:50
I missed my babies, but I still have them around, you know, they're still here a lot, and they want to be here a lot.
00:49:57
But I'm just saying, you know, be careful about what you Your what? You make your identity it better.
00:50:04
You know, it needs to be long lasting you know, speaking on your identity, you know Jimmy, Buddy says he you know, obviously they were nurtured by you.
00:50:17
The moms moms are the most nurturing, you know? But they're probably known Maura's Jim's kids because of you know, that's just what it is.
00:50:25
But we know that you did the nurturing like all moms do.
00:50:29
And you know, obviously, because I know you personally, I know that you did the nurturing, But what do you see in yourself in your kids? Like what? What what part of you is in is in Jimmy, Buddy and Sissy separately.
00:50:47
You know, that's a good question, John.
00:50:50
I mean, I see I think I'm always looking for pieces of their dad and then, you know, and and the thing about Gemma's he he he has this hard side.
00:50:58
But boy, is he a puppy dog inside.
00:51:01
You know, a large part of him is a softy.
00:51:05
He cries at movies.
00:51:06
I mean, he's he's sympathetic.
00:51:09
He's, um you know, So I see that in him.
00:51:14
But I also see, especially in Jimmy and Sissy.
00:51:17
I see his strength, you know, they're really strong.
00:51:22
But then they both have that a sympathetic side that I'm probably more, um, like that all the way through.
00:51:31
You know where I've gotten tougher? I've gotten stronger, but I'm or um, like, you know, not anybody is more like me.
00:51:42
You know, a lot of people say that that No, no, us, they're like, Oh, wow.
00:51:45
Buddy is so much like you.
00:51:47
And I'm like, Well, that's my side of the family, you know, and I where I feel like I feel like Jimmy is wired just like his dad.
00:51:53
Um And then Sissi is a Boeheim is Well, I think but But then she's got this this softer side to her that is, you know, and I want her to be I want her to be a strong female, you know, And I'm a lot stronger than I think.
00:52:07
I realized it's the youngest of six.
00:52:09
You kind of grew up as a puppet on a string.
00:52:11
You know, everybody's wanting me to avoid the mistakes they made and trying to help me along or tell me what to dio and, um, you know, But I think I'm I'm surprising myself and and how strong I am and you have to be a pretty strong person to be married to a coach because you're a single parent for a lot of the time, the scrutiny that you're under the judgment that you're under all of those things.
00:52:35
But, um, you know, it's there are kids air such a mix of the two of us? But, you know, I feel like Jim has that great balance of the strength and the softer side, and and that's a great combination.
00:52:52
No doubt Julie, obviously growing up upstate New York, Syracuse, New York, as a Boeheim, it's already pressure.
00:53:03
I mean, everyone, you know, he's been there for 45 years.
00:53:07
Uh, he played there another three years or and was there for four years because freshmen couldn't play then.
00:53:14
So E mean, was it expected that Jimmy Buddy, And since you were gonna play Division one, basketball was the pressure there because I know for my kids, especially my sons, the pressure being my being n ba father's son.
00:53:36
It's tough, and, you know, for me, I just told my kids always toe definitely make your own name.
00:53:43
I've already done what I had to do, and sometimes purposely, I wouldn't I wouldn't go to some of their games or I wouldn't go to certain because I want them.
00:53:51
I don't want to take the light from them.
00:53:53
Like I was always cognizant of trying not toe take my kids light or shine from them.
00:54:00
I wanted them toe experience it and do everything that I did without me being there, like without me helping them without me, you know, being in the way.
00:54:10
I just wanted them to kind of make their own way.
00:54:12
And and whatever they did, some I want them to say they got it on their own merit throwing ability that had nothing to do with Dad.
00:54:19
So you guys, we're dealing with that even on a larger scale.
00:54:22
Because, you know, the Boeheim family is the first family of Syracuse is the is the first Boeheim family is the basketball family of upstate New York, maybe of all in New York.
00:54:35
So and I don't say that lightly, and I'm not dealing in hyperbole is at all.
00:54:41
Um, it is the truth.
00:54:42
So please, please enlighten us and speak about how what were the expectations in the house? And I know you earlier you said, you know, Jim, just coach.
00:54:52
Just wanted them to play sports and care what it was.
00:54:55
But wink, wink basketball, you know what I mean? But, uh, so you know, But at the same time, that pressure that come with being a Boeheim and I remember ah, story.
00:55:09
And I remember hearing it from you personally, and I remember telling you when someone was berating or saying something that sissy in a high school game.
00:55:19
I remember saying, I wish I had that guy's address because I go and slap him in his face and you know, I'm not promoting violence, but I am.
00:55:31
I am condoning shutting guys who've grown men up who are talking noise or trying to berate a kid because she's, like, 16 at the time or something and dealing with something she shouldn't have to deal with.
00:55:44
If you wanna talk junk about whatever but to try to deal and add Harmon in and an attacking her, I didn't agree with it, so, you know, there's a lot of pressure that comes with being a band. I'm up in Syracuse.
00:55:56
What were the expectations? How did you guys deal with it, and how are you dealing with it? Even still today Well, you know, before we had kids, I told Jim.
00:56:05
I said, You know, I'm just worried you're going to be like it'll be midnight and the kid will be dribbling out in the driveway and you're gonna say, Shoot it again, Shoot it again.
00:56:13
You know, that was a legit beer.
00:56:16
And I said that to him.
00:56:18
Hey, hold on, ladies and gentlemen, not to cut you off.
00:56:20
But Julie is over here speaking about the driveway when they know they have a indoor court in the house that is always available.
00:56:30
24 7 with with lighting with all with all the fixings we could imagine.
00:56:38
So don't Don't worry about any inclement weather, anything? Well, it all began in the driveway, John.
00:56:50
And it's not a full court either.
00:56:52
Every commentator I told you I'm like, Can you go over and tell these guys? It's not a regulation size court.
00:56:57
It's only a half court.
00:56:59
Yeah, but if you say it's a full court, it sounds even like like he's even balling even harder, you know, write a good point, people.
00:57:08
Oh, boy.
00:57:09
Yeah, well, it started in the driveway.
00:57:13
Um, yeah, they didn't like to play out there very much.
00:57:16
But they would.
00:57:17
But, you know, you know that I did.
00:57:20
I legit said that to Jim.
00:57:22
And it was in the back of my mind like, Oh, boy, what? You know what? Is he going to be like his dad? Because I know how he is his coat and and how competitive he is across the boards.
00:57:31
It could be checkers or Scrabble or crazy eight.
00:57:34
Doesn't matter.
00:57:36
No doubt. I will speak of the devil.
00:57:38
Look who I'm talking Thio.
00:57:42
What's up, baby? How you doing? I'm doing this podcast.
00:57:46
You're not nobody.
00:57:48
Oh.
00:57:53
Oh, I don't know.
00:57:55
Do you to tell me there's a frozen turkey out there who brought it? Okay.
00:58:01
What, you guys having Thanksgiving again, eh? So I know how to cook a turkey.
00:58:06
I'm scared to try.
00:58:07
You gotta do.
00:58:09
Is Brian Brian in Turkey for a day or two? Good.
00:58:13
All right, John, we'll see you in about an hour and a half.
00:58:17
One over.
00:58:19
Oh, boy.
00:58:20
Um, So anyway, you know, he said No, no, no, I'm not gonna be that way.
00:58:25
And then, you know, then I remember we had these three we had after we had the three kids I remember again saying something else to him and that Waas I can't believe our kids are the fans that they are.
00:58:39
You know, when they were babies and I go, we you know, it z nothing they were made to do or taught.
00:58:47
You can't teach that.
00:58:48
They just were remember them cheering emphatically and all the games I remember that will be dressed up in outfits.
00:58:56
Sometimes I remember that just so it was just It was really amazing it Thio see, these three little kids just evolved into it and love it so much.
00:59:08
And almost to the point, you, nobody would have these crying fits.
00:59:11
And he cried every after every loss for about three.
00:59:15
Love you, buddy.
00:59:17
I love you, buddy.
00:59:18
That's the truth, man.
00:59:19
Maybe I love that.
00:59:21
That was me.
00:59:22
I remember that everybody that has that reference point to see him now playing it means even more to them like Buddy would be ball boy.
00:59:31
And they need realized that we're not gonna win.
00:59:34
He quit, come around, sit in my lap face facing me with his head down, just shaking, sobbing and he just say, Mom, let's go home.
00:59:44
Don't talk to anyone and you know, he just want to get out of there.
00:59:48
And I'm like, Oh, buddy, I wish that was the case, but, you know, we'll get out of here as quickly as we can.
00:59:54
Cried the whole way home.
00:59:55
I'd put him, I'd say, you know, nobody.
00:59:57
It is what it is.
00:59:58
I wish I could change it, but just go cry in your room and come out when you feel better.
01:00:03
And he would come out and then, you know, if it was an away game, we watch on TV, same thing, go up, get himself together.
01:00:11
And then Jim would come home right when he had himself together, and it would start all over again.
01:00:16
So, you know, and Jimmy is more ****ytical breaking it down.
01:00:19
Why did he do that? Why? Did? And then he would do the Q and A with Jim.
01:00:22
We should have been a reality show for for a little while there.
01:00:25
It was such an interest, A scenario.
01:00:28
But you know, the other thing We right, John, I do feel like because we are just average people.
01:00:36
We don't live life any differently than anyone else.
01:00:40
We really don't hear it home or were in our jammies first thing when we get home or, you know, just simple, you know, living.
01:00:50
And I think, and that's how we've raised our kids and so that that has helped diminish the expectations.
01:00:57
And I don't think our kids felt so much pressure like they probably did have way more pressure on them than they ever thought or realized.
01:01:07
You know, even now, I don't think buddies ever felt the pressure or the target on his back, right? I just don't And I'm so thankful for that.
01:01:16
I don't know why exactly, other than we've never made Jim, you know, he's just dad around here, you know, on when he when he would come to the games, he would sit either somewhere off a little bit, Um, for, you know, if we all sat together, it would be a lot of pictures and autographs throughout the game and everything, but that just became another normal part of our lives.
01:01:41
You know that one more with him, that's gonna happen.
01:01:42
And that's because, you know, people think he's awesome and that's great, even though we just think he's dad and, um you know, So I think just keeping that simple thought lying and way of life going has helped diminish.
01:01:58
Um, those expectations.
01:02:00
Um, the fact that they fell in love with the game made them work at it.
01:02:04
They worked really hard at it.
01:02:06
They were never made toe work, but they just wanted toe work.
01:02:10
And so it just was a natural happening.
01:02:13
And I'm so thankful.
01:02:16
Well, Julie, thank you so much for your time today.
01:02:19
It's always good talking to you is great catching up.
01:02:22
Please tell Coach, um, you know, his his investments doing well.
01:02:26
He you know, he's involved in sports Caster.
01:02:28
So, um, you know, hopefully he made a good decision.
01:02:32
We're trying to make it, you know, work for him and all that good stuff.
01:02:35
And for all of the fans out there, all my brothers and sisters check us out every Tuesday and then on SportsCastr every Wednesday and third every Wednesday on Apple and Spotify.
01:02:49
We're gonna take a little break for the New Year's happy holidays and Christmas out there and Hanukkah and all that other good stuff and whatever other holiday might maybe going on if I missed it.
01:03:01
I'm not trying to miss it, but Julie is really, really good.
01:03:04
And like I said, way there's been a numerous shows, and especially during the zooms with coach behinds don't doing it.
01:03:12
And we wanted to get a different perspective, and it was really good.
01:03:15
This Thio here, the other side of the from the from the other side, the better side of the Boeheim behind Family loved the stories about Buddy and insists she and Jimmy good luck with Jimmy and the Trans Report.
01:03:28
I hope that works out for him, you know? And he gets an extra year now, right to also Yeah, that's definite. Yeah.
01:03:34
So we'll see how it all lines up and works out.
01:03:36
But we love you so much, John.
01:03:38
So proud of you.
01:03:39
And, you know, I appreciate everything you're doing and, you know, happy to support you Anyway, we can.
01:03:46
Thanks so much, Julian.
01:03:47
I'll talk to you soon.
01:03:48
Thanks so much for your time.
01:03:49
And, uh, and everything today.
01:03:50
Appreciate you.
01:03:51
Happy holiday.
01:03:53
Happy holiday.
01:04:06
Yeah.
01:04:11
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