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Matt gets together with his NetsDaily teammate, Chris Milholen, to discuss their key takeaways from Brooklyn Nets "Media Week," while also sharing the most interesting quotes from training camp as a whole. They also break down what they think the team's identity will look like in this crucial upcoming season.

Follow Chris on Twitter: @CMilholenSB

Transcript

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you're listening to basketball and bar a SportsCastr featured podcast with your host Matt Brooks.
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Experts from across the globe sit down with Matt to talk all things MBA from news and rumors to gain breakdowns and ****ysis, tune into the live stream twice a week on SportsCastr and be part of the conversation.
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But first buckle in for today's edition of basketball and more Welcome everybody back to basketball and more with your host, Matt Brooks.
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This is, of course, a SportsCastr featured broadcast.
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I am joined by my Nets daily teammate Chris Mulholland.
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How you feeling? We are what they said. Extra***anza.
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I'm good, dude, I'm good.
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I'm surviving.
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It's been it's been a fun like it's been a fun week and a half.
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I think we've gotten a lot of, like, interesting, different sort of dialogues today, every single day, about different topics.
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So it's something different.
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It's always something different.
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It's been, yeah, something different every day.
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So, um, yeah, there's been a lot to talk about these last two weeks, and you know, that's the reason I want to do this.
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But first off, I want to say I am absolutely so excited to go on this journey with you this year.
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You know, we're gonna be doing a lot of the media stuff and everything of the sort for Nets daily.
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Couldn't pick anybody better to do it with than yourself.
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And it's been a blast so far here, my man.
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I'm excited.
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I mean, it's just even in the last week we've texted, we've texted back and forth about way.
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Excitement is there and the productive it is obviously gonna be there.
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So we're both excited and grateful for it. I agree.
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No, it's been fun, like, you know, just getting to know you And figuring this out has been it's been cool.
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It's been a very cool experience, and I don't know, I'm excited.
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I think big things are ahead, and I'd like the stuff that we've done.
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So, um, let's start out with this.
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So we we we kind of sort of this out.
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I'm gonna keep it pretty loose.
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I know we have quite a few viewers looking at this today, so I'll take this many questions as I can.
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I'm gonna try to do a little bit better of a job keeping an eye on the chat that I normally dio.
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But I think the big thing for me is that I want to talk about what's the main take away for you in particular, and then I'm gonna go with mine.
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But I'll start out with you first, like throughout the whole training camp so far, Camp everything.
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That's that's that's happened so far.
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What's your big take away about the Nets? My biggest take away right now with the Nets in general, I would say it's just a competitive level that they're aspiring to bay.
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I would say that is definitely my major take away right, because that revolves around everything.
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So obviously you guys know limited offseason.
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Every player's kind of had a different length.
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Obviously, Kevin Durant, you know, 18 months Kyrie, Irving.
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A little less than that due to injury.
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Then some guys that play in the bubble, such as like you could say Landry Shannon had a little lesser offseason, the rest of the guys as well.
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So but overall, like Nash said, I'll stay back to today, right? He's the thing that I'm the biggest take away.
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Even getting back to even today is what the preseason games coming up even talked about how he wants those two games to be very competitive.
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And I'm excited to see that because obviously you know, e know what that means.
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I'm excited for.
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And the thing is like like there's there's so many things about to be excited about this first Precinct against the Wizards from Kevin Durant.
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Just making that Nets debut.
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That long awaited debut.
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Just seeing how this team meshes as a full how the defensive schemes, I know we're going to get into offensive play style.
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There's so much things to be excited about. This team.
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Yeah, I'm excited like I mean, when I heard that and like, how much emphasis they're putting on preseason, that tells me that a certain somebody is going to play now.
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It's not me.
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That's just me speculating, thinking about what we've heard from speculation, no source base.
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Just go just going off everything we've heard.
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It's been a lot of emphasis on a couple of things training camp.
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They're just trying to get to know each other.
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They're going over loose concepts.
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I don't think it's been like, especially based on what we heard today.
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There hasn't been really strict fundamental word doing this.
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They're kind of gonna work through that.
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It really feels like and they're gonna carry into that.
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Actually, some of that teaching or hard core.
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I guess hard wiring is gonna be in the preseason games, so I think that's really interest twisting.
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That's and that's what that tells me is that they're gonna want to play the for roster.
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Exactly and just piggybacking off that point.
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You know, the two biggest words Steve Nash is used throughout the whole training camp.
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Even it's like early parts of the offseason.
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Flexibility, right? So flex.
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That's been the biggest thing.
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He's even talked about it.
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I like how even with Steve, Um, just taking a little thoughts and seeing what's going on in the rest of the MBA from the coaching side, even through Media week for the rest of the guys.
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One thing about Steve, too.
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He's very down to earth, and he realizes what's going on outside the hardwood.
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He knows there's a pandemic going on.
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He acknowledges the safety protocols.
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He does everything there, and on top of that, like you gotta understand, too.
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This is a This is a new I guess you could say like Steve set a new team, a lot of new pieces.
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You got guys that are better like Bruce Brown.
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I'll just throw an example, right? He's so focused on the defensive side of the ball.
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But Steve Nash said, Hey, we're gonna incorporate us like playmaking is shooting, catching, shooting All that type of stuff is, well, you saw a little bit of Sprinkles with that, with Paris as well, A little bit off the balls.
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Well, so it's just gonna be excited to see how those roles developed.
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And that's why I think that Even what Steve said, what the preseason games is that he's gonna be really taking on these preseason games.
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Seriously evaluate those roles.
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I have a little story coming out with that's daily about that sights and sites and uh, sounds from media from day to a training camp.
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So I kind of get into that with all the quotes that they say and everything like that as well.
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But flexibility has been stressed about the whole thing, right? No, I agree, and like the thing for that and it's really interesting is like they when Steve Nash mentions, it's a new team like I have seen some people be like, What does that mean? That doesn't make sense like it's the same team.
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It's actually not because everybody's role has shifted down.
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One more peg or two more really, because I really played 20 games.
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Eso You see stuff like you've gotten little bits and pieces.
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Guys have hinted at that.
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Care is kind of walked it back a little bit today, But the first day he was like, I'm playing off ball.
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I'm coming in with enthusiasm like that's what I'm gonna dio.
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I bought it like and I, you know, I've tried to make this.
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I try to do my best on Twitter toe to give honesty and and and be candid, which is hard because it's, you know, Twitter.
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But E bought it like when he said, Look, I want a playoff ball, I wanna be a catch and shoot type of guy.
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Um, he wasn't just saying it toe like, say the right thing.
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I felt like it was genuinely.
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He's read every single little comment he's read.
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Shoot, I'll say it.
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I wrote articles in March about how he needs to work on that part of his game.
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He's seen all that stuff.
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He's heard what everybody said, and he's saying rather than I'm gonna internalize this and say, You know, if you'd have everybody, I'm actually gonna make you guys look wrong and for me, Hell, yeah, make me look wrong.
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Let's do it.
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I e also piggybacking off that point The thing that he made to which I was excited about the moment he said it right after I started writing about this research myself and he said at Michigan, that's where he really did A lot of the catch shoot off the ball movement.
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I started watching it a little bit, and I'm gonna be It's gonna be very interesting to see how that kind of embraces that role of the Nets, right? With Katie Kyrie, even the shooters around him and stuff like that.
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And just on the offensive side.
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That's why most interesting to see about care, seeing like Okay, what's it actually gonna turn out to me? And isn't that role going to be consistent or so you gonna be okay? Nationally? Be like all right.
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On this day, Okay, You go get your buckets or whatever the case is, right.
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So I'm excited to see that I'm curious, too, because, like I've looked, I'm like, big on looking at mechanics.
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So if you look at like when Yanni's first came in the league, pretty different mechanics to what he's doing now carries his mechanics haven't changed that much necessarily.
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But the comfort that he was doing those and I do I agree with him quite a bit.
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The reps like the amount of reps that he was doing in college versus now.
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I mean, you shoot.
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I remember one shot from the bubble where he took a shot.
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Think it was in transition and, you know, it didn't go in because he took one like the entire, you know, the entire bubble experience.
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Um, and I think a lot of that stuff just comes down to experience comfortable ity.
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Um, when you're playing off ball, you have a lot more time to, like process these things versus when you're kind of dribbling into your shot.
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It's all natural.
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You know where the defense is around you.
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You know how your body is gonna line because you're already kind of working into your shot coming up from a dribble, catch and shoot you have time, you catch it, you could dip it.
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But you you can think through it.
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Your elbows could come out of place.
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Your work could be off like there's a lot of stuff that I think could happen.
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So I'm curious like it's it's really for him.
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It's just comfortable.
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Idiots.
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Really boring answer.
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But exactly like I saw a couple of you want to be, like, catch and shoot off the ball like that's pretty.
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That's not gonna be a hard adjustment.
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As you just explained, there's more.
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There's mechanics that go into this.
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It's not just okay, you get the ball and you could just shoot it off.
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It's no, it's more of mechanics.
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It's footwork, its placement.
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It's literally you name it, it's involved in it.
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It's one of those things I agree and like it's funny because it leads into my my first important point or or overarching theme.
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I guess I should say from training camp.
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Is the defense a lot of talk about defense every single day? Steve Nash has said, Defense, defense, defense, defense wrote about yesterday.
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Um ah, lot of the emphasis seems to be on being connected.
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Communicating, looking out for one another, which is really important for them.
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I compared it to like like I guess, an army of ants taking away a large piece of food.
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I think that's actually how they're gonna play because they have all these guards.
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The nice part about guards.
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They get around screens.
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Well, they're gonna be able to sort of again, like it's just gonna be like, you know, I don't know what to call it.
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It's like Fruit Ninja when you got you got a bunch of tries at it like that's what it's gonna look like.
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And that's I think, how they're gonna be, you know, hacking at the offensive like essentially.
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So I don't know, I'm excited.
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Like I think it could be really different.
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Is Landry Sham? It kind of indicated most definitely I agree with that because they were.
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The defense is, as you know, just before you were talking about kind of getting into depth, right? It's Steve Nash.
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If you look at the just the past three years, right, the top three defense's have also had the top three records in the NBA.
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A lot of people don't know that, and I got it in today's game, it's You see a lot of guys and a lot of teams that go out there trying to outscore right.
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It's like a big narrative is like, Okay, all you gotta do is outscore your opponent and stuff like that.
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But it's gonna be interesting what Steve does with his defense, because Steve has literally said like it starts with the defensive side of the ball from day one and he hasn't even skip the breath in that same narrative of okay, We got to improve that defense, and at the end it's gonna come down the jacket, want his defensive coordinator.
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I guess you could say, Yeah, it'll be interesting, I think indication and I think it's how they have to play with the way their roster is.
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So it's good that, like, it's good that he says, Hey, we're gonna play like this because I don't think they have many other options to be honestly, don't have that many options.
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They're going to switch everything.
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I think they're gonna be really aggressive.
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So if a guy gets it on the post, they're gonna send to Adam and they're just gonna be recovering, so you're gonna get.
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I'm not.
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I'm gonna try not to be to turn me with it, because I know that's really annoying when I go deep into terminology with it, but, you know, like they're gonna be just sort of swarming around the court and trying to help for one another.
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I think the big idea is just to force turnovers so they could get out in, you know, in that offense.
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And that's what are they calling that six seconds or less? Um, six seconds or less.
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Now wait a second office.
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We cut a second off it, but no, Like, just piggyback off that point, right? I feel like this.
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If I had to put one word kind of just as a ah cloud over what we're going to see on the defensive end, I think it's gonna be gritty, right? Like you said, it's gonna be a lot of recovering a lot of switching and just everything along those aspects I'm excited to see, like how it actually looks on the court because talking about it and from being it on the court is clearly two different things.
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So I'm gonna be excited to see, like how it turns out.
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I'm excited, too, because I think the way they want to play Eve's Eve's seemed skeptical.
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Uses saying, Has this ever worked and made a championship quality defense? I don't know.
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I mean, I think a lot of the defense of concepts are pretty new.
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So you take I also again in this article.
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I compared it a little bit to what the heat did, except they're gonna be I think they're gonna try to play even quicker than that and just try toe play.
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Even Maurin recovery, like the Heat, were so aggressive they were the ones that kind of set the tone.
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I think the Nets are gonna play similarly if not even more aggressive.
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I expect this team to be all over the place all over the map, which thes guys got to get in killer shape.
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They gotta get a good ****.
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And you know, Steve, Steve did say the veterans look great.
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That za positive now, right? Like the veterans, they're in good shape.
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So I guess we put air quotes around good shape.
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But But, you know, that's that's always a good little stepping stone, right? Little first right to it.
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But well, And that's also the idea of like running such a deep rotation, because it seems like they're going to do that.
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They have enough players that are good.
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It's gonna be a protein they should like.
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They would be stupid not to play all these guys like you're looking at a guy like TLC who I like.
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I actually think TLC should play or at least see what it looks like and see if the bubble Israel, Um, he's a guy who deserves minutes, and he's what? I don't even know if he's what is he on the outside of the rotation? So I think they're going to do all this stuff.
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You got Bruce Browne and Landry Sham it, fighting for minutes, that backup shooting guard playing both.
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Um, so yeah, I I expect I expect this to be a pretty deep team, and I think with how aggressive they're gonna play, they're gonna lean into that.
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They're gonna lean into playing, you know, 20%.
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So that's what's gonna come down to Yeah, I think, especially the first two preseason games.
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Trust me, we're going to see a lot of the Nets were Don't get don't go crazy when you see a lot of a lot of mixing and matching, it's only pre season, but I know, I know we're gonna We're definitely see Oh, was that next to a lot of that? But at the same at the same time, you know, like like like you said.
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And like Steve said like, it's gonna be different.
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It's gonna be a different type of the out of box is, um, or object? Well, in the bubble, what like where is it leaning? But I don't know.
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We're gonna see that common ground.
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So So I'll address the bubble defense.
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I don't think it was very good.
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You don't think it was good at all? I don't page of this one.
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I mean, like I and that's I think a lot of that was just they think about how that roster came together.
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You had guys showing up like hours before the thing started.
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It really felt like that, like guys that hadn't played and however long um, you have Jamal Crawford there like it's just a roster that was honestly thrown together because of cir***stances, and I think it's really hard to set a tone on defense because That's really what Nash things like you want to dio.
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So even if you look like the Clippers are a great example, Clippers ran a very aggressive scheme.
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They wanted to kind of be a team that could switch every single position, and it seems like a the chemistry wasn't there, but be the other thing was that they just didn't like.
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They just didn't seem like they had enough time to really figure it out.
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So the Nets truncated off season.
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I think that's why they're kind of saying it seems like they're laying the bread.
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Comes a little bit for like, Hey, if we start off slow on defense, don't panic too much.
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That's been really that's that's been my right and that's what Steve's also been saying, what he's saying.
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I like how he's very forefront, right? Not going to be one of these guys he like today.
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He even said this team is such a unique position because not only are they ah, high championship contender team, they got all the eyes around the MBA.
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Watching a lot of fan base is watching teams watching right, but the thing is, Steve is always stressed patients and He's always a calm guy, and he's what? I'll tell you this, uh, he's one of the most well spoken head coaches in this league.
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He does not.
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He's impressive.
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He's impressive.
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That's a lot of that's That's 20 years of training.
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Yeah, and I mean, look, I was a skeptic and first I was like, I don't know, man like this is a big ass for a rookie head coach for a team that's never played together and has a roster that doesn't make sense, that is now together.
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And I would argue, still doesn't make sense, but I don't know.
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I think he's earned, like, you know, as much as you can earn without playing a single n b a basketball game.
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He's learned quite a bit of respect from me.
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I mean, I don't know.
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I just don't respect from May.
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He's definitely like he's like, you know how he's talking like he's like He also like what I like about Steve, too.
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Is he kind of like knows his role comes with coaching, right? He's not like one of those guys that came and it doesn't exactly yeah, he doesn't.
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He just doesn't b s because He's one of those guys like, yeah, I'm a generational talent at the point.
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I'm one of the best to do it, but I'm new to coaching.
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I'm gonna rely heavy on D'Antoni Von right, Oka Harrington just goes down the list, right? And he knows he's just gonna kinda just learning slow, but at the same time learning at a level where this team could meet those expectations down the line.
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So that's what I like about Steve.
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Yeah, No, I just He's like, it's not even that he doesn't b s like he just I don't know.
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I I actually have much.
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It's weird how good of a feel I have for how I think the team is gonna play this early.
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I mean, this is e you know, this could be totally wrong, and it could just be smoke signals, and I could be completely wrong, but I do remember this happening last year and being I mean, granted, I kind of knew what can he was gonna do? But, you know, let's say it was a different team or a different head coach.
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I just I don't know.
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I usually guys try to smoke screen a little bit, but I actually have a decent idea of what it could look like.
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We'll see if it looks like that.
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But it's interesting.
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Exactly.
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It's a bright side to that.
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Everyone's on the same page that that's also a very bright sign for a rookie head coach.
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I get it. Steve Nash.
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A lot of these guys grew up watching him.
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Yep, whether it's TLC in France.
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Tyler Johnson, Santa Clara.
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That area, right? There's different aspects to it.
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But the respect is there.
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That's the big thing about it.
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And like I said with Steve, I just think that he's gonna do a good job with this.
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Sam asked.
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What? What in the hell is, um, are you going to do beside player development with Jared Allen and clacks? I think you got it right there.
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You nailed it on the head.
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Yeah, I think that's going to be to be honest with you.
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I mean, that's it for Jared Allen.
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Especially like I think you know him.
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Just being a mentor in terms of like screen setting and stuff like that is gonna be huge.
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You know, this is a stunning Yeah, Steinmeier! Sorry.
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Interrupt.
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Even Nana, my right, He's Ah, lot of people.
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Just just look up his highlights like I've been getting a lot of guys that been like, all right, like a Marist on, um are like big walk.
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Yeah, the thing with the Marius, I think where an impact that's not really being talked about as much is that type of tone, he said when he was on the court, especially in his prime years with Phoenix.
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Right with National, a little bit right and I feel like that could work out with classes, especially like I covered class in a lot of Long Island.
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He was down there and watched a lot of film, autumn and stuff.
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I feel like Klaxon and Stoudamire are not like a perfect match, but I think that is someone that is top tier toe having Klaxons Corner coming in second year.
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Obviously, you know, he's a little banged up.
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We figured that today, a couple days ago, he's gonna be a couple of weeks and stuff, but with a Stano Meyer having that chemistry with Steve and then you kind of relating that to collect in a different mentor ship role, I feel like that's gonna be very valuable.
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Yeah.
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No, I agree.
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Like I think, you know, I mean klaxon.
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I just want healthy.
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But I think for him especially like it's all it's all feel for him right now. It's not.
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It's not anything that he isn't necessarily like he's e I mean, look like the ceiling ceilings way up there for Claxton.
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I think we all know that.
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I gotta I gotta ask you that when you heard when you have Nash Diego Modern day stretch five with Claxton.
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What were you thinking? I mean, they're buying the jumper.
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That was my first thing.
00:19:51
Yeah, Yeah, they're buying the jumper that That was kind of my biggest take away. I'm excited to see that.
00:19:55
I thought he was bumped.
00:19:56
I thought he was really bummed about Claxton and it kind of confirmed a little bit.
00:20:01
I felt like he would be the riser for the Nets because he's such a different type of player compared to anybody else.
00:20:08
Like he He's the only player over 6 ft for its multi positional.
00:20:17
Honestly, he, like, really and like, he's not all the way there.
00:20:20
But you at least kind of feel like Jared Islands getting there, So I don't want that to be a slight, But I mean, I have to say like, Yeah, like, I really feel like for him like that that it just felt like that was a big loss.
00:20:31
And I get it because like, that's the guy, that man.
00:20:33
If if things start clicking for him, he moves up that rotation fast.
00:20:37
The jumpers there you can play him at the four.
00:20:38
All of a sudden, you have a big lineup that you can throw out there.
00:20:42
Say you're playing the Celtics and the second round of the playoffs.
00:20:44
What are they going to do? They're gonna play Tyson, Tristan Thompson together.
00:20:48
You're gonna just hope that it's just It's interesting.
00:20:51
E And guys, trust me.
00:20:54
I've seen clocks and shooting in Long Island.
00:20:57
He could hit a three. You could hit it. Three. Yes.
00:20:59
You had a video.
00:21:00
Remember going around last year when he was just like, yeah, I literally took like, a three second video class and taking a practice three.
00:21:07
And everyone was like, Bring him up, bring him up.
00:21:10
Three point contest.
00:21:11
I was like, Alright, guys slowed up.
00:21:12
Slowed up guys.
00:21:13
So I was like, slowed up.
00:21:15
I get it.
00:21:16
It's an enticing skill set.
00:21:17
I wanna go through some interesting quotes.
00:21:19
We picked out to each.
00:21:21
I'll start. I'll say any of the quotes.
00:21:23
I tried Thio, you know, summarize everything.
00:21:25
Any of the quotes from the bigs? Um, DeAndre, Jordan, Jared Allen? I thought they were really interesting.
00:21:31
A.
00:21:32
They showed there's a lot of competitive fire from Jared Allen, especially.
00:21:36
And I know it's It's next.
00:21:38
Twitter is just subject of Nets.
00:21:40
Twitter that loves to Just doesn't play with heart, doesn't care, doesn't like basketball.
00:21:45
All this stuff just wants to build computers. Fine.
00:21:47
First off, that's sick that he watched that on the computer.
00:21:50
Yeah.
00:21:51
I can't build computers and NASA.
00:21:53
We've heard it.
00:21:54
E I have a chair that's falling apart right now because I built it.
00:21:58
Okay, Like I can't build anything.
00:21:59
You could build computers.
00:22:01
You should definitely get some credit.
00:22:02
I'll tell you that.
00:22:03
So, you know, and for him to come out there, Jared Allen was He made it very clear he felt a certain type of way about losing starting job.
00:22:12
I would argue that I actually think he didn't deserve to lose it.
00:22:14
I thought that DeAndre Jordan outplayed him in December in January.
00:22:18
It is what it is, this is That's not really the importance of this.
00:22:20
Three important part is that for him.
00:22:23
Like he said, that lit a fire under him and he brought that all the way to the bubble on.
00:22:28
And that seemed to be a big motivator for him.
00:22:30
And I think that just hearing that out loud, we'll see if that carries over into this year.
00:22:35
But just to hear that there is a portion of Jared Allen's career where he's fired up, he's like, I wanna prove something to everybody the same way the character heard said about playing off ball.
00:22:44
I thought it was interesting because that is not necessarily in his character.
00:22:47
I would say Yeah, and then on top of that as well, if you if you recall right it was at the end of the Sixers first round exit with Jared Allen the next media day, literally that October later, you really said Hey, Joe, Ln be motivated me to get bigger So this guy has always had, like that one little situation or a chip on his shoulder to progressively get better.
00:23:12
Yeah, that's so that that's it.
00:23:14
That's the thing I want to throw in there about.
00:23:15
Well, I'm happy.
00:23:16
Oh, well, bring the other side of it.
00:23:19
I don't want it to make it like seem like there's a contentious relationship with him and D.
00:23:23
J.
00:23:24
Because there isn't I mean, D J said he was on the phone with him all throughout, like the bubble experience.
00:23:28
He seemed genuinely happy for him, which I mean make sense.
00:23:33
Like, I think he realizes.
00:23:35
Look, I can't play 40 minutes.
00:23:39
I'm not playing 40 minutes at at this point in my career.
00:23:42
I think he could give you a really productive 20.
00:23:45
He could be the Nets.
00:23:46
Like JaVale McGee is the one that I've thrown out.
00:23:48
I'd say he's probably more productive than JaVale, but I think he could play that role where you have the backup from Justus many minutes, if not a little more.
00:23:56
Um, and I think that that was a big sign.
00:24:00
I I think that's important so that you don't come into training camp.
00:24:03
You just don't want there to be fights over positions where it's like, Ooh, this could be a bad sign.
00:24:09
It all felt constructive.
00:24:11
To me.
00:24:13
It's constructive.
00:24:14
It's commentary, right? Because exactly I was, That's living.
00:24:16
I'm just gonna repeat what you just said. There's no hard.
00:24:19
There's no hard feelings here, right? There's no like competitive rivalries.
00:24:22
Obviously, in the MBA, you wanna be a starter.
00:24:25
There's gonna be that competitiveness, right? But it's not gonna be something that's negative or turn to the locker room.
00:24:31
Or one guy just going to say, Hey, why am I starting? Why am I on the bench? Whatever.
00:24:35
The case is not like that between the center spot, right or whatever.
00:24:39
The case is so exactly what you just said.
00:24:42
What's your interesting quote? Your first one? Well, my first one.
00:24:45
I'm just gonna related back to the pre season one from today, right? So just seeing that how Nash is viewing these games, I like that it's not.
00:24:53
He's got it.
00:24:54
It's not like he said, All right, we got two preseason games, one against the Wizards, one against the Celtics, and we're just going to see how everything meshes.
00:25:00
He said, Hey, we're gonna go out there, we're gonna compete.
00:25:03
We're gonna try the best we could and which mostly means, Hey, I'm not scared to blow these guys out.
00:25:08
So that's that's my first quote and then let me see.
00:25:10
I got I got a man.
00:25:11
I gotta go lock down here.
00:25:13
The thing, The thing.
00:25:14
Let me see what we got right over.
00:25:17
I think, too, that caught me today as well was Nash's.
00:25:21
Nash is kind of his high hopes for Claxton that that was a very big one, that just kind of throw back.
00:25:28
You know, two minutes ago we were talking about the accident, but he even called him.
00:25:31
He's like I have high hopes for him.
00:25:33
Modern day stretch five.
00:25:35
Hey, could shoot whatever the case is.
00:25:38
But he also the keyword in there is that he's a development type of player, right? So does he.
00:25:44
The Nets have seen it over the past couple of years sending guys down the Long Island for a couple of games and get those runs in whether you know, especially with this type of rotation and the minutes like we talked about before and how it's been stressed out the whole week, guys don't know how many minutes they're gonna get, especially if they're on the bench as the deeper rotation goes on.
00:26:02
So it's gonna be see how kind of pans out from there.
00:26:05
Bruce Brown's another one, especially with offensive play.
00:26:08
I like when, even when Nash talked, he said, like, Hey, we're working on his shooting, his playmaking and the one Bruce Brown talked.
00:26:14
He kind of said, Hey, Steven, the coaches that have discussed me about a role and how my offense kind of it's not quite there is going to impact how Maney men's I'm seeing on the court right now.
00:26:25
Viewed as a defensive guy, one of those guys that are gonna work on the offensive side of the ball.
00:26:30
He's more defense more than anything.
00:26:31
And then I guess just my final quote on the one of my major takeaways.
00:26:35
Quote from this year is that these guys, none of them have shot away from championship expectation.
00:26:41
That's that is one thing that that has to be stressed because you're gonna get guys that sometimes you know it may change.
00:26:48
As the season goes on.
00:26:49
You never know right, Maybe guys saying Hey, we're just working to get better.
00:26:53
We're just working to build that connective ity that camaraderie the two points.
00:26:57
That's Nash has been listening the whole time.
00:26:59
But you know, like the good thing is that they all know the goal at hand, right? And that's the build that camaraderie and chase the championship.
00:27:08
Yeah, it's been interesting.
00:27:09
I mean, look like it has been a lot of the same points from Nash.
00:27:13
Um, uh, I've got to say, my, my big ones, that really anything on leadership The way that rolls have been delegated in a way where, like everybody when when NASA's first hired everybody's making jokes there going, Oh, well, if he's gonna be the guy that deals with kind of reading K d like I we heard I saw Red every I'm sure they all did Thio.
00:27:35
He seems like the connector on.
00:27:37
I give him a lot of props because he could have completely shied away from this, he said.
00:27:42
Mike D'Antoni is gonna run the offense.
00:27:44
Shock phones around the defense.
00:27:45
He could have looked.
00:27:46
Man, this guy is the head coach, that is.
00:27:48
He had no reason to say that.
00:27:50
That's especially rookie coming in with the background 100 like and so for him, like I've got to say, like that was I was I just was surprised by that.
00:28:00
I think it's a smart, like recognized.
00:28:02
I have a really talented group of guys around me.
00:28:05
I'm gonna handle that.
00:28:06
And I mean this collaborative approach, Which again, for all a bunch of reasons except, like probably what it's actually four has gone around.
00:28:15
I really by I mean I do, and it seems like he's gonna be the one that's gonna be connecting.
00:28:20
What I like is that he's clearly had conversations with every single guy on the roster, and it's not like head Coach is not gonna speak with anybody because they're doing individual workouts and stuff.
00:28:28
But he's he's bonded with guys.
00:28:31
He just the Bruce Brown quotes alone, like this guy's what, like 1/10 11th man and Nationals, exactly what he's working on.
00:28:39
He brought up the thing that Bruce before he it was like what he'd been a Brooklyn net for like, I don't know, like a day or two, like there's no way real conversations with Nash about whatever what it's gonna look like or what he wants to work on, and now **** on it, he hit on the first thing that that Brown said, Hey, I want to catch everybody Surprised with this? And I think that speaks volumes like That's something that he's done a really good job of in terms of connecting with everybody and being the connector.
00:29:07
That's his robe that things out.
00:29:10
Everyone thought that as well, when he was brought in right superstars.
00:29:14
The narrative.
00:29:15
If he goes, you know, for New York market, this coach, when they were looking for a coach, it was gonna be a coach that could handle everything.
00:29:23
Everything that came with this job.
00:29:25
And like we said earlier for me and you both agreed on, I think we even texted one of the news.
00:29:29
Even came out about Nash getting a head coaching job.
00:29:32
Yeah, and so far, Listen, he couldn't have played any better than he's already playing.
00:29:35
Even talking about such things, God forbid, I bring up trade rumors, right? So he's been He's talked about that and he's talked about.
00:29:44
He's always admired the thing I like about him, too.
00:29:46
Is he all He gives such smart in detailed answers, especially when it comes to the current roster.
00:29:51
Like you said the 12th 11th guy.
00:29:54
He knows what he's working on from the one guy to the test.
00:29:57
12th guy toe, 15th guy.
00:29:59
Whatever the case is, even we'll see how this season goes on.
00:30:03
Even with the D League and stuff like that.
00:30:04
If it happens, what players go down, right.
00:30:06
But I just like how he's filling that role off. Kind of.
00:30:12
Okay, I'm the head coach.
00:30:13
I get it.
00:30:14
We got two superstars, but you guys are gonna get your touches.
00:30:16
You guys are gonna get your minutes, and in order to get you guys, that this is what you're gonna be working on, this what you're gonna be working on, and this is what you're gonna we'll be working on.
00:30:24
On top of that, I like how he's not even talking about roles yet.
00:30:26
I like how he wants to see everyone.
00:30:28
That's a big thing to e look like.
00:30:31
Yeah. I mean, I agree with all that.
00:30:33
I think we're really going to figure out what type of ah head coach he is and what the team's makeup is when they go on a losing streak like every team, that's when you figure it out.
00:30:41
That's when you figure out what you're working with.
00:30:43
Um, I've been impressed.
00:30:44
I mean, look, I brought up leadership, but I actually say in terms of leadership, even more than the coaching side of it, I think Durant is quietly.
00:30:53
It's just everybody seems to know what's expected of them on the team.
00:30:58
And I I think you look at everything that's happened out of a certain team from Los Angeles that happens to play professional basketball this last week.
00:31:08
That's not easy.
00:31:09
There are certain guys that are gonna say, Hey, I deserve more than this, especially for a team like Brooklyn very similar to the Clippers.
00:31:17
They had an established hierarchy.
00:31:19
Alright, This team was a playoff team the last two years.
00:31:22
Kyrie barely played last year.
00:31:24
They have guys that have carried them at certain points, really different points.
00:31:28
And I've you know, it seems right now it's ego lists.
00:31:32
Everybody is buying in Joe Harris.
00:31:34
I mean, your hair is gonna do his thing, but you know, did what he did, what? He was really impressive.
00:31:38
I tweeted something along the lines of like, oh, he's about to go up to speak Every replied, Oh boy, Here we go.
00:31:44
We're getting into it.
00:31:46
Doesn't get perfect interview.
00:31:47
Not not a critics.
00:31:48
Nothing just gets it.
00:31:50
Understands I'm gonna be the glue guy.
00:31:52
I'm gonna fill the loose ends.
00:31:53
I could do anything which I agree with.
00:31:55
Played plenty of off ball, you know, basketball last year.
00:31:59
I think that's really impressive, and I don't know where else that comes from.
00:32:03
But the top right, it has to come from the best player it has to top.
00:32:07
And that's That's another good point, because with Steve right throughout this whole type of media week, it's He's another key word that started to see Collaborative, and he spread that throughout the whole organization.
00:32:18
It's not gonna come from coaching staff, employers.
00:32:21
It's gonna come from the departments, the medical staff ownership, work your way down like a waterfall.
00:32:27
It's gotta be collaborative.
00:32:28
Yeah, I mean, it's just like it's, it's There's something to it, like I'm a basketball.
00:32:33
I'm not a real life.
00:32:34
I'm actually really optimistic in life, but I'm a basketball pessimistic by nature.
00:32:38
Why there's one team that wins every year, 20 nineteen's that lose.
00:32:43
I don't know if they're gonna win the title this year.
00:32:44
But I feel really good about their chances and a lot better than I did on I know it's media week.
00:32:48
So you're all gonna be feeling like this. Fine.
00:32:51
I by nature, I just I don't believe in in something till, like, we're basically they're like, I don't believe in the Lakers, you know, hoisting the trophy.
00:33:01
So, yeah, that's that's me.
00:33:03
I just don't like I'm not going to sit here and say, Hey, that's what Yeah, I'm not doing that because I don't think there's so many factors.
00:33:11
I think that's my big changes.
00:33:12
If they lose, I don't think they implode.
00:33:14
And I was worried before we got into this before we got into this whole week.
00:33:18
I was like, If they lose their two guys looking for contracts, it's a lot of guys that kind of overlap, and I just don't know what that looks like, and right now, I mean, a lot can change, but it doesn't feel like that's gonna be that big of an issue because of what I just mentioned.
00:33:32
Everybody seems to know what's expected of them.
00:33:34
Yes, roles are not established, but everybody has an idea of what is what they're gonna be doing.
00:33:39
At the very least, most definitely.
00:33:41
That's that's the big thing.
00:33:43
And, well, what would you say is, since you brought up the imploding, right? What would you say is the lowest mark the Nets can reach without, like, alarms going off, smoke, house, burning down? You name it right, I would say for me like, I guess I'll go first on it.
00:34:02
I would say for me, it's Eastern Conference finals.
00:34:05
Second round, second round.
00:34:07
A second round? Yeah, I think competitive.
00:34:10
But I say that with the idea and you knock on wood.
00:34:14
But an injury? I mean, that's the only thing that can think of, um, if they're healthy.
00:34:20
Yeah, I think that it's pretty disappointing.
00:34:21
Like if they can't get beyond Rusu, then I I mean, I don't know what's to think like this is one of the three most I would say, probably one of the most talented rosters in the league.
00:34:30
Yeah, definitely the team that has the most excitement heading to the season.
00:34:34
You know, for a fact it's also at least in my opinion, is the team that has the most pressure on them because I feel like with the Lakers securing that championship was anti Davis.
00:34:44
Come back LeBron both on new deals.
00:34:46
You see the great offseason, then pick up. So they have a Schroeder.
00:34:49
Once they got him, I was like, Wow, that's yeah, In my opinion, they locked the West right there.
00:34:54
Turkey.
00:34:55
They did very well.
00:34:56
Public is a smart man, but But with the Nets, I just feel like the team with the most pressure.
00:35:00
But at the same time, I feel like House Steve Nash and the players have handled it throughout this whole entire.
00:35:05
It's still training camp way.
00:35:07
Haven't even touched the hardwood yet.
00:35:09
I got it.
00:35:10
But I feel like the way that they're going right now is very promising.
00:35:13
You know, it's interesting.
00:35:14
I'm thinking about the Lakers right now, and it seems like every team trying to build for them a little bit, so they're going to size up.
00:35:20
I do wonder if the Nets are just gonna do what they've done for a long time, play smaller and be like if we're clicking, they are.
00:35:31
Talent is better, like maybe we're just in a position where we're at a talent advantage and we have them, you know, sort of adjust to us versus the other way around.
00:35:41
I wonder if that's a part of the process in this because ah, yeah.
00:35:45
I mean, I get it.
00:35:46
Like it za little confusing looking at the roster on the outside in, um, you can figure out ways to make it make sense, but it is. It's not.
00:35:54
It's a non thing to look at.
00:35:55
I think in a lot of weight.
00:35:56
All right, I'm gonna let you I'm gonna let you go.
00:35:59
I feel like my computer is about to melt right now, so e 10 10 15%.
00:36:05
Right now, I really didn't like once, and I was like, Yeah, my computer is hurting right now, so I'm going to let you I wanna let you look away.
00:36:13
Anything you want, plug away anything you're coming out.
00:36:15
Anything we should be looking out for.
00:36:16
I know you an article coming out so we could Yeah, I got I got an article coming out.
00:36:20
You can follow me out, see male hunters to be on Twitter.
00:36:23
Um, and I guess I'll throw a little teaser.
00:36:26
So I got a second book coming.
00:36:28
It's not coming any time soon, but But I just wanted to put that one out there.
00:36:32
It's not gonna come out any time soon, but keep your eye out and then, uh, Matt, Listen, man, I always like shopping, Booth.
00:37:17
Really? Yeah, yeah.

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