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And we're here to talk about Thursday Night football.
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As you could see, it is the Jacksonville Jaguars versus the Miami Dolphins.
Adam, you got anything to say after the fact that they just basically said that, uh, chart isn't playing tonight? Yeah.
I mean, listen, he's a big receiver for them, but let's let's have a reality check here is coming coming into the year what everyone say This is a bad team and they're tanking, and that's their plan here.
So all the receivers that they're talking about now, including charge like these are all relatively unknowns coming into the year.
He bubbled up, but we were talking before we really got going here.
They have depth at those positions.
I mentioned of fantasy mistake's that I may have made by acquiring a player and dropping Chanel Junior, someone who could be involved in both the running past game for them.
So I think they're balanced enough that they could still be a threat.
And let's live in reality.
Here they play against the Miami Dolphins there.
Bottom of the league.
They're against past and run.
So there should be opportunities for Jacksonville. Have success.
Right? Um, I just talking on my answering your question.
I was just Whatever, man.
This is This is our show.
Okay, if I could have the floor for a couple of minutes here.
So I did my usual, Lawrence.
I ran the numbers, I did the mathematics, and then I kept running the numbers, and I kept doing the math.
And then I did it again.
I used three different sources of stats and ****ytics to compile who I think is gonna win tonight.
Because, believe it or not, these two teams are a lot closer.
Then we believe it.
I'm gonna run it down really quickly.
Not to bore people.
Okay, On average, though, the Jacksonville Jaguars have thrown for 209 yards over the per game over the first two weeks.
Miami, on average, gives up 267 yards of passing over the last two weeks.
Now, granted, they played Cam Newton and Josh Allen, but they played a Cam Newton team that only through the ball, 1919 times, right On the flip side, Miami averages 233 yards in the air in Jacksonville.
Gives up on average, 287.
And if we go down the list, it's the same run game from Miami averages 93 yards.
Jacksonville averages 105 yards on defense.
Jacksonville puts up an average of 128 yards per rush per game.
Miami gives up an average of 164 now.
****ytic suck this time of year because it could be really dismiss, leading from Game one to Game two, depending on who you play.
But the more I ran it, the more I ran projection ****ytics.
The more I did all the complicated math that I know you don't want to hear about.
They all came out to the same that these two are actually pretty evenly matched.
So I had to turn to D V. O A.
A. Is a mathematical per formula.
I don't understand, so I don't like to use it very often because I don't understand D v o A.
And how they get it.
I don't understand the mathematical formula, and I don't like talking about things that I don't understand.
It's here, though, that things start to make more sense to me.
The Jacksonville Jaguars efficiency puts them 1/12 in the NFL.
That's a combination of offense, defense and special teams.
The Miami Dolphins, 31st now D.
O is set on not just what you've done, but also based on the opponents that you played.
So it takes all that kind of factors into consideration, which you raised all of my math because my math has just been based on the last two weeks on offense.
This one shocked me because statistically riel traditional statistics.
Jacksonville is eighth in the league and on offense.
This year, they're Devi away.
When you put in all their efficiency scores, they're actually sixth overall in the NFL.
Miami is 20 seconds defensively.
Jacksonville is the 27th D V O A.
Miami is 32 special teams, Miami ISS second and Jacksonville is 24th.
And that is the only place that those two teams that Miami has such a big wide margin.
Besides that, Jacksonville kills them in all the other categories.
Special teams mattered at all in today's NFL.
That'd be That'd be a big deal for Miami.
Well, unless you play out in the New England Patriots E, If you punt the ball and you drop someone at the one or two yard line and then you get a safety out of it, it matters quite 100.
You can never tell a Patriots fan that special teams isn't important.
Okay, it's been drilled into our heads.
It's the most position unit on the field.
I've got your special teams coordinator is my head coach.
I love exactly you love special teams.
You learn to love it.
I've loved it since the day he showed up, but this e probably more.
But this bears out to me that in my mind, my snap response was Jacksonville should win this game.
That was a snap response, and because I think that they're good enough offensively, legitimately good enough offensively, The D v o A.
The other numbers don't That's what Lawrence.
I usually have numbers like this guy do the math.
I have an entire page of notes, boys.
That's how much math I did today because the numbers just weren't making sense because they were just so even in so many categories.
When you look at what the teams did offensively compared to what the other team did defensively, Mhm.
I never thought I would say this, but I will say this.
I believe tonight's game.
No matter who wins, I think it'll be Jacksonville.
But no matter who wins, and I don't think either of you two would have called this before the season started, this could be a shootout tonight.
Boys, between Gardner, Minshew and Ryan fits magic.
I'm not even kidding you because the numbers were saying these offenses could put up yards and points and these defense's can't stop anybody.
Well, I want I do want to say we gotta take in consideration who they played, right? I mean, because Jacksonville they played the Colts was pretty good. Defensively.
They get, I think they gave up like 260 total yards to Jacksonville.
Uh, they played the Titans right and took him to the wire.
Miami last week played the Buffalo Bills and the Buffalo Bills run the **** ball right, and that's that's where that big, huge, uh, number for how much rushing yards that that Miami gives up because they give up.
Buffalo ran the ball on them hard, but so did New England.
So for two straight weeks, they ran football.
But what I'm saying is that your argument, though, Like Jacksonville, they played Tennessee and they played the Colts to teams with Good defense is and they're the eighth, statistically the eighth best offense in the league in the sixth, best in D v O a.
They ended up giving that they almost had 500 yards offense against a good defense in Tennessee and by the way it plays, not plays into their hands.
But it plays into it being a tight game, the fact that even though we know and I think that where they was out, if they were out without a J.
Brown yet at that point for that game or if it was the following one.
But you talk about Tennessee being predicated through the run first, right? So if you're a team that's a bad defense and the opposing offenses maybe gonna take a little bit more time getting up and down the field together, points on the board.
That helps you to stay involved in that game as opposed to you.
You go up against you, let alone one of the better teams or just a team that airs it out.
If there's a team that airs it out and you're really bad defense, then you start playing from behind and the defense can start their pin your ears back a little bit. Now.
You said it, though, Ray, that it could be a shootout.
And I think that even that plays into Jacksonville's hands even further because at least for this game, at least for one more week, you're gonna have Ryan Fitzpatrick, who, by the way, and this is another area that start looking at these quarterbacks and he's been labeled as a journeyman.
I would make a case that you know he's been a good enough to be a starter somewhere for his career.
It's by happenstance that he's bounced around.
The one thing he does Dio is he likes to chuck it.
If you start getting a couple of turnovers off of Miami and you're talking about Gardner.
Minshew, who has been fairly conservative in his game approach offensively as well.
That's where you could start to get a little bit of separation between these two teams.
And I don't know if Miami has the capacity with Ryan Pitts.
Passion to say, Well, we're down 14 or were down 10.
We got a really air this thing out consistently to get back in it.
That will be, you know, mid third quarter early in the second half, where you start to wonder if there is a chance for Jackson Little pull away, even with these two bad defense is, I think what Miami needs to do is is they need to play these guys in man to man because these numbers threw me off on First down, Jacksonville is throwing the ball 26 times.
They've only ran a 27 times, so they're 50 50.
You don't know which way they're going to run it when they run the ball.
They averaged 3.
9 yards on first down, they average 8.
9 yards per pass on first down.
On second down, they averaged eight yards per pass.
So these guys and they, they've thrown primarily on second down.
I mean, these guys were throwing almost first downs on passes.
I haven't really watched, like in full d like I haven't concentrated watching them, and I probably should have since we're covering this game tonight.
But I know Lawrence is at least really watched one game.
Is this the result of mint You being good or is to me these numbers Tell me this is a result about going up against zone defense and my off on that or we'll both.
Actually, uh, Menchu is actually really good.
He's got the mobility, uh, which helps him out a lot to be able to get away from a pass rush even when there is man coverage so that he could allow his receivers to get open and he'll throw it to him.
Um, the big thing is, is something that Adam said is he's been fairly conservative and expect him to be even more so now that that deep threat, D J h ark isn't on.
Is it playing tonight? You know, you're gonna see a lot more of like Dede Westbrook and stuff of that nature where these guys ain't going down field for the bomb right there.
They're looking for a little short, quick out routes and stuff of that nature.
So, uh, yeah, I still see mentioned.
Still, having a really good game taking them or high completion percentage passes and and looking for yards after catch against this Miami defense.
Especially guys like Levesque occasional, uh, that that rookie running back is something special man, undrafted free agent Robinson.
Every you know, we always like Did they just dropped lettered for net for an undrafted free agent.
And then and then the Marone says.
Oh, well, we like that.
We want to go in a direction to him.
Remember that conversation we had read? We were just trashing him.
Hard core kids. Good.
The kid is good on, and it's very, very surprising to me.
Well, he's legit, and you know another guy who hasn't made a lot of noise down there yet.
He thought maybe he was going to, And this isn't this isn't a guy that you expected come blazing a trail, but that's Ah Thompson There, who came over from Washington, has Tizer with the offensive coordinator.
I would be curious to see about the potential of him getting a little bit more exposure here because he's a pass catching running back.
So if you're gonna be down one of your big wide receivers, you might as well start to give as many different looks to get into Playmaker's hands and try to spread out this defense for Miami a little bit.
The other thing, If I can pivot for a second here about Gardner, Minshew is this idea, and we all said it coming to the I feel like it's the consensus, right? Jacksonville.
When you get rid of Leonard Fournette like, All right, obviously, you want Trevor Lawrence next year.
You want that number one overall pick? We always say the hardest thing to do in the NFL.
Those convinced the players on the field that what I need you to dio is forfeit the quality of your season in lieu of what we're gonna do next year.
So they come out. They play well on guardian.
Menchu has played well over the course of now.
His what is his career now, which which adds up to 16 total games.
He's thrown 27 touchdowns, eight interceptions, 63 completion percentage.
You're talking about a guy who is on the same level of and I'll give you the mixed bag of it when I tried to pull up some random guy's right.
You can talk about a Baker.
Mayfield, who threw for nearly the same amount over 16 games, 13 starts for him, 3700 yards, 27 touchdowns.
14 picks in his rookie campaign.
4000 yards for a Cam Newton 21 up, 14 down for him, 700 rushing yards mixed in there.
Even a Russell Wilson who came out in a full 16 game season.
3100 yards, 26 up, 10 down almost 500 rushing yards.
And I, you know, I wondered about it a little bit in the preseason.
I maybe was kind of curious because I think the Jacksonville, at the very least, does a nice job of turning over and having quality young players on their roster.
So maybe I pushed back against it a little bit, but you have to at the very least reexamine the idea that Jacksonville is so bad that they don't have quality weapons.
And we've all acknowledged over the first two weeks, but also that they don't have a quarterback already.
There's nothing wrong with not knowing that that that that Jordan, when she was going to be a quality player Gardner Minshew Excuse me.
But now now you have to accept that Maybe he is.
You gotta you gotta full season sample size and he looks far better then a lot of other quarterbacks that got drafted high.
Look at Sam Donald.
Look at, you know, look at Baker Mayfield, now in his third season.
Look at where Josh Rosen, his right now in the league, like he's already proven it.
And if you're gonna hang your hat on something like I'm already of the mindset of saying, yeah, you could probably build around this guy, and if you need to turn it over, you always can.
But checking off that box now before you get into next year's draft means that when you are still maybe a top 10 pick, you could go ahead and be open.
You can say, What do we need most here? How do we improve our defense? How do we trade back and get more? Let's go New England style and get more assets, right? Fill our holes.
And that's something that I don't think anyone was really anticipating.
coming into the season and I'm getting almost I'm almost bullish on Minshew.
I'm not all the way there yet, but I'm borderline bullish on him being a starting NFL quarterback, that Jacksonville should hang their hat on.
I'm gonna tell you why I I'm very high on Menchu.
And I think if something happened to Jacksonville, no ended up going three and 13 and we're in that number one pick I'd be looking to trade out.
Or I'd be looking at getting the best linemen in the draft or the less everything.
Because there is a little bit of a misconception with the Jacksonville offensive line.
People are talking about how great it's playing.
Yes, and when it comes to the run game, when you look at the numbers in the run game, their top 10 Now this is where I trust adjusted line stats and that kind of thing, and this tells you the whole story.
So running back yards about 4.
3 per carry, right? Do you know what they are? Do you know what they're crediting mathematically to the offensive line for runs 4.
59 yards? That means that running back on his own is gaining less than a yard.
It's the offensive line push, passing wise, 23rd in the league.
That means, yes, he's playing safe.
But that means Gardner Minshew is giving himself time to make those passes.
Um, I think when you have a bad and I consider 23rd in the league bad, I'm gonna tell you I consider 23rd in the league.
Bad when you have the bottom third is unacceptable.
You wanna be a quality team when you have the 23rd ranked offensive line for passing and your eighth in the NFL for yards? When you have when you're averaging 28.
5 points per game.
You know, when you were supposed to be tanking for Trevor Lawrence, I'm on it, man.
I'm gonna start wearing some shorts and I'm gonna grow my mustache.
I'm on the metro train, man. I believe in this kid.
But I wanna put out this question that you guys leaning towards Lawrence more because he knows that division.
But out of my love, your opinion as well have we possibly not given this coaching staff enough credit? Because when the whole for net thing happened, Lawrence we compared the Jets or the Jacksonville to the New York Jets like we put them in the same category.
How we were arguing if they were a top five worst franchise of all time at one point, Uh, and And I think now, though, with what we're seeing, yes, some of this is Menchu.
But I think we've got to give this coaching staffs and credit.
I think I think you're absolutely right being the fact that I mean, over the last two or three years, they've just been letting go all these star players and you would think that that would be utterly demoralizing to the players that are still on the team, right? And somehow, some way this coaching staff is saying, Listen, we're doing this to make our team better.
We're trying to clean up the locker room.
You guys that air here, you're what we want.
You're what we want as a team, you know, you're all team players.
You're all exactly what we want from your position.
Your what? We want todo kind of product we wanna put on the field and that kind of message in the midst of just letting go star player after star player after star player that could send a mixed message one way or the other.
And somehow, some way that message is leaning towards the players, it seems like believing in their coaches and that you've got to give all the credit to the coaching staff in that kind of situation.
Yeah, you get rid of Jalen Ramsey, you, you jettison and Goku, who doesn't wanna play there.
And by the way, these are guys that are also looking for their big paydays.
So you know there's an underlying factor there about Ah lot of these young guys Now for Jacksonville.
They're playing hard and helping look like give them a winning culture this season as they get closer, right two and three years down the road.
If they're still muddling there in that division, then they're also gonna wanna look for their payday.
But there's a reason why head coaches stick around in certain spots, even in lean years and at coming out of lean years.
And there's a reason why, again, to go back to every year.
You'd say the last handful of season say I put Jacksonville in the lower, you know they're in the lower handful of teams in this league now, win or lose, you've probably been surprised by the performance that you've gotten out of them on ah, handful of random weeks throughout the season.
Last year was like that for the Miami Dolphins.
It doesn't look like I have that same kind of fire in them down there this season.
But let's look at Cleveland, right? This is a team that on paper should be destroying teams every single week for the last three years, and they can't seem to manage to figure it out.
And they keep bringing in new head coaches.
Let's see if somebody else can get these guys in alert.
Let's see if someone else can figure out the right buttons to push.
So you know NFL is a coaching league and consistency and continuity is paramount in this league as well.
So, even, though is you go through some guys, younger players get to just come up and fill those roles, and they've been sitting there right, whether they're young rookie players or they've just been lower on the depth chart.
Now they come up and they're ready to execute the same system.
It's not new head coach.
Now learn a new system.
Let's see what we have.
It's just step in and fill in the role that you've been doing a practice and that that always is gonna help a young team in a young group of players probably exceed expectations here in Patriots land.
We call that next man up because every year we see key significant pieces of our roster go sign for big money somewhere else.
And then all of a sudden, chase we novich comes out of nowhere or, you know, just you know, our James White takes over for Shane Marine, and it's just one after another.
Um, but yeah, but no, I do think it's it's that coaching philosophy Now.
I think it in Coughlin out of there was a good idea.
I think that he was a bit of a toxic culture, but I don't compare them to the Jets anymore because I looked at the Jamal Adams situation and I think you brought that on yourself in New York.
Not Jamal, the organization.
He was happy he was ready to be a jet for life.
All of a sudden, you start talking to the Dallas Cowboys you know? Well, by the way, uh, Sam Donald just came out this past week doing one of his national radio interviews that he does with ESPN.
He came out and they said, Well, who's the vocal guy? And his first response was, He said, it was It was Jamal after he's gone now and your franchise quarterback, you think, or possibly or maybe not anymore.
But he comes out and says he was our vocal leader in the locker room.
He's the guy that set the tempo that didn't let us get to high, get too low.
So then, when you go back and re examine that, you talk about, maybe the mistake's now new GM and you want to figure out what parts you like it and and again getting assets back.
But when you look at that and you say what I have here is a safety that yes, I have toe over, pay your overvaluing the position that you shouldn't be.
But if he's the cornerstone, he's the glue of the defense and maybe even the glue of the team in that locker room.
That is what you over pay for, right? That that's the exception that you sometimes make will be this one key player that you're always gonna keep around, and then you trade out the parts in and around him to make it work.
But he's the engine.
And to your point, right when you start sniffing around with Dallas and you start just saying, Well, you know, if if we get a call, we'll think about it and you don't shut it down immediately, especially publicly in the media, then all the sudden Jamal Adams hours.
All of a sudden, he remembers that you're losing games and that this isn't a great team, and he starts to think, Maybe I just want to get out of here or you guarantee you're going to negotiate a contract with them.
And then you don't even call his agent.
You know, those kind of.
But, you know, they brought that on themselves.
I know. Look at Jacksonville.
Jalen Ramsey brought on that situation, you know, um, for next week.
Then Gockley brought on that for net. Brought on that situation.
You come out and say we need to sign Cam Newton.
That's not up to you on that team.
You can't throw your own quarterback under the bus and I You know what? And I was happy Marone, right? I was happy when Doug Marrone came out and said He has to make things right with Gardner Minshew.
And you know, the way men shoes Look, it's like they just needed to get I'm sorry.
I hate using this term, so I won't call it.
I won't use the c word, but they needed to get the toxicity out of the dressing room.
Right? And, you know, I have a motto as a manager when I'm talking to my team and I always say one drop of poison poisons the whole well on.
I think Jacksonville had three, and I think that they moved on from those three and you're starting to see a team that enjoys plane.
I compare it to this and it says, Look, I will accept the premise right now that Tom Brady is still a better quarterback Cam Newton.
But I think that Cam Newton is the better quarterback for this current Patriots team, you know? I mean, they right now, these especially being a very young team, they don't need a miserable Brady who you know, the most miserable eight.
No quarterback in the NFL.
They need a Cam Newton who's dancing and laughing.
And when you fumble the ball at the goal line saying, Don't worry, Doughboys gonna get it, he's gonna you know, it's That's what they needed so sometimes having the most talent.
Or even if you were that vocal leader in the dressing room for 20 years, Sometimes you out state, you know where you're welcome and you're no longer impactful on the team anymore.
And think about a situation early to cause.
Cam's a great example, say the year, say the U.
R Jacksonville and you sign him.
His attitude and approach to that is going to be different, right? First of all, it means, at least on paper, he thinks he's going to sign a big payday there, as opposed Thio.
You know what's the best landing spot for May? So he's gonna come with expectations, and that's gonna permeates everyone when you go to New England, where they have an established culture.
Now you get to come in there and to maybe your point, Ray Tom Brady's as at the tail end, right? He's legacy.
Is legacy cementing right now, So every game, every down is that important to him.
Cam Newton is, he said in interviews.
Right, I've already made my big payday.
I feel comfortable with what I've done.
Now there's records that I want, these things I want to accomplish.
I wanna win a championship.
But I have to worry about the dollars about it.
And now I get to come in very loose, very free, very fresh.
And when you have Bill Belichick, you know that listen and he's running the ball, but they're not.
They're not abusing his body.
They're giving them the ability to say, Listen, you actually have one of your better statistical years from a passing completion percentage prior to your injury, so we know you can do that for us, and we surrounded you with a ton of little weapons in Harry in Edelman, guys that know how to run routes and get open for you.
Flick that ball short, let him take it long, and then when you use your legs, you don't have to do it the way you did in Carolina.
Go ahead, get those little tough yards in and around the goal line, but everything else is just yet Little Chunk plays there, so you're inviting a player in to have a very loose, relaxed new environment for himself.
You weren't going to get that in Jacksonville with can, by the way, is the reason why you got that with Jordan with Gardner Minshew? Oh, I know why I wanna call him Jordan.
I know what that But Gardner Minshew That's what you get with him because he has no expectations on himself, right? He is playing loose because nobody expected him to be anything other than, ah, backup quarterback in the NFL.
That's why that again he plays loose.
The team plays loose right and that those things permeate throughout locker rooms and you see a time and time again throughout the NFL when you remove one toxic element.
Typically, at the very least, you end up getting dedicated, willing and ready bodies that wanna play every single Sunday for you absolutely like scabs.
Yeah, pretty much what it is. Lawrence.
Let me ask you this then, and this isn't necessarily toxicity.
It's not even Not necessarily.
It's not toxicity but his Philip Rivers putting too much pressure on himself right now, like Is he there trying to replicate? No luck.
No, it seems like it seems like, really, always doing is waiting to throw the football to the open person when he needs to.
Hey had an interception last week, but that interception was not on him at all.
He had that tight end dead in the chest and it just good defensive play.
And and And the tight end.
Drop the football up the air, Got the interception.
Doesn't you know the rule? Never had a guy in the numbers? I guess, I guess.
But that's the same.
That's the same tight end that ended up having 100 some yards and a touchdown that game.
So he continued to go back to that time because that happened early in the game.
In the first quarter, he continued to show.
Hey, you know what? I still have confidence in you.
I'm still gonna go to you even though you you pop that ball up there and you know he provided.
But you know what I want to talk about? I wanna go back.
Let's take this train.
Put it back on the track.
Uh, Jacksonville, Miami.
I actually like we're both of these teams.
Air like heading direction wise right now. Miami.
They had a They like, half their team are new people, right? Like.
And when I say new, I mean, like, this year new, uh, because all the draft picks all the free agents that they picked up.
So you're gonna you're gonna have to sit there and wait for these guys to mesh.
It's just gonna take time.
So if you're Miami Dolphin fans don't don't lose faith right away.
I have faith in their defense because I get that those those veteran defenders that they brought in are playing under Bryan Flores.
And for a lot of them that was their defensive coordinator when they won a Super Bowl, That was their, you know, their coach when they won multiple Super Bowls and Kyle Van Noy looks like hell right now in his last two games.
We also gotta wait.
I mean, like I said, there's a ton of rookies on there, too.
Not to mention, you know, a certain to, uh, that's sitting in the background going just I'm just waiting for 50 pax.
Let me ask you this, then, because you say they're both in good positions.
But I got a question we have not seen to attack a viola throw a ball in the NFL.
We don't know if two is going to step on that field and look like Andrew Luck or look like Baker Mayfield does now or RG three.
Or is this hip done? I would argue that right now.
I think that Jacksonville is actually sitting in the better position because way, actually, no, that they have a quarterback who looks like they feel comfortable going into the future with, We don't know, in two years, if we're gonna be looking at two of the same I'm not saying to is gonna be a bus.
You know, I I thought to It should have went first overall, not Joe Burrow.
But not playing.
And I'm looking at Jacksonville going you got? Believe it or not, you're actually in my lives right now in the better position.
Yeah, well, see, I was getting ready to transfer over to Jacksonville and talk about that team.
We all know they have an offense right now.
That could put points up on just all just almost anybody in on any given Sunday.
They got a great, great passing attack, and Robinson, that undrafted free agent rookie running back looks really good.
They run the ball very well, but they have key players, all three levels of their defense.
Right now, we all know about Miles jacket, linebacker, that rookie C J. Henderson.
He is the real deal.
I watched his tape over both games.
He has played exceptional.
And let's not forget that Miami, now for the second week in a row, has to worry about not letting a guy named Josh Allen ruined their hopes to win a game because that defensive end Josh Allen, in his sop****re season over there on Jacksonville, he had a heck of a season last year.
And he's looking toe, really Upgrade that and he's good.
He's gonna have his ears pinned back going after Ryan fits magic all game tonight.
But that's why because, you know, we've said a lot of positive things about Jacksonville's.
I think we could, you know, we agree right into your point. Lawrence.
You got nice guys at all three levels of the defense.
That's always important.
You feel at least pretty good, even though Ray saying we're not so sure the offensive line from a passing perspective is where you need it yet.
But you're checking a lot of boxes already.
When you look over at Miami now, this is you were mentioning before about Vanoy like those air, the first players that I am terrified to go after and free agency coming out of New England because it's such a plug in play, you know, we'll rotate this cast through when they're ready to go for their big payday.
That's what New England says.
Thanks, but no thanks.
And they go somewhere.
They were rumored that maybe the Giants right in the Joe Judge connection with they want to try to rebuild that linebacking corps with him.
And I was like, I don't know, right? Wrong, indifferent.
Don't bring him in here because I don't wanna have that buyer's remorse.
And it's also because I've been scarred bringing in Nate solder.
Obviously, you know that that that was an experiment that didn't work out so well for the Giants, either.
But Miami lacks talent defensively, their ways away there.
The question mark around to obviously has to be a factor there.
Parker has been an underachiever, a wide receiver for the bulk of his career, given expectations like, you know, the running game has players and you want to see if someone bubbles up to the surface.
But to your point, Lawrence, nobody came and took those rains the way Robinson did.
He walked in and said, This is my job now.
You know? Go ahead and get out of my way.
So when you don't have one stud, you could go by committee.
But then you need guys that are also competent, qualified.
They're throwing Howard into that mix.
You know, he's a re tread from a lot of other places already at this point in his career.
So there's a lot more question marks for me there.
My curiosity now becomes, if you're the Miami Dolphins and you find yourself yourself up there at that number one pick in next year's draft, what decision are you making? If you don't get a chance to see to it yet this year, do you automatically pivot and say Trevor Lawrence is going to be our new guy and do the total reboot because I've always been a fan of I'll ask both of you guys this in general as high as you can be.
And I know that that Trevor Lawrence is allegedly the best prospect since Andrew Luck, right? I can't miss prospect at the quarterback position, but when you go over the last couple of years of the draft, everybody misses.
Nobody sees Lamar Jackson.
Realistically, Nobody saw Mahomes, either, right? He he ends up falling in a draft class where he should have been taken immediately.
The number one spot.
Is it better to just trade back and take the insane amount of assets that someone's gonna be willing to give you their? Because if I'm Miami and people ask us about the Giants to what if you have a disaster season your own to you blow it out.
You automatically dumped Daniel Jones and go to Trevor Lawrence.
I say, regardless of how Daniel Jones plays, and I hope that he plays well over the course of the season, I say, Give me You're 34 1st round picks in your multiple, too, because what do I dio? I fix the offensive line.
I fix my defensive line.
I plug holes in the defense.
I address so many issues, and I worry about who's gonna get under center for me because mince, you can do it because even Fitzpatrick can do it for you for a couple of years.
Like I know that you need the franchise quarterback.
And also, if you don't have the stability around the franchise quarterback, it doesn't matter.
And what ends up happening is Sam Donald.
You have no idea whether he's a franchise quarterback or not, because the Jets are a disaster and they've ruined the first now into his third year of his career.
Same thing, even with Baker. Mayfield.
Terrible spot to be in right.
So when you don't have that around a player, I don't think it's worth drafting a guy that high.
Oh, man, If Miami ends up with the first pick of the draft, there is no question about it.
They need to trade out and gain as much as they can.
High draft picks 1st and 2nd fact, even third.
You know, I would get everything they can for this coming season.
Andi, just go offensive line.
Just go offensive line.
That way, you've got someone that you've got a fresh good solid line for two when he comes out.
Oh, man, that'd be That'd be something I would do in a heartbeat because having ah, young, good offensive line in front of who are that could be something very dangerous in the future for Miami.
And we all know if you've got a great offensive line, you could build around that any possible way you want.
And plus, you know, if you feel you got to, uh that just means you could start throwing stuff later on.
Just plugging things, you know as seasons.
Come on. Oh, we need another safety.
We need a pass rusher.
We need an extra wide receiver.
Someone like that.
You know, that's fine.
You could plug those guys and you need to get established, your quarterback and your offensive line.
And since they've already got their quarterback, man, go, go Hammer that offensive line quit.
But I still don't think that Miami is gonna end up with that first round pick or that 1st 1st pick of the draft.
I'll go with what you guys said, fellas would be honest with you.
I just had to reset my wife.
I I didn't hear half of what? Either of you said, uh, you were hacking, freezing everything else in between.
I don't know if it was you or me, but I reset my wife and everything seems to be okay.
Now, um, I know on SportsCastr from my end were blurry is now we've just cleared up.
We were all blurry is held there for a while, though.
Um, I was hearing and seeing everything just fine, so thanks a lot, Ray.
Listen, if you if you want to start the question you want to pretend your internet didn't work? No, I kind of got it. I don't trade.
I got your beginning.
I don't trade out Thio.
You know what I mean and go for Trevor Lawrence.
You can't at this point.
And you can take a new quarterback every year and just hope that the next guy is going to get better and better.
You picked to it.
You got to go with you.
And that's that's the same Andi.
I think that you're right, though I don't think that someone's going to give up a boatload for Trevor Lawrence, to be honest with you.
Even though he is a franchise changing quarterback because you are right.
Because the top quarterbacks in the league right now went 32nd overall in 10th overall, not first overall in second overall.
You know, um, Russ Wilson went, what? In the fourth round? You know what I mean? Yeah.
Dak Prescott, the fourth rounder.
I mean, you know, you got Brady's of six, but that's that's the one in a million kind of thing.
But, you know, you do gotta I mean, right now in the league, you got a lot of guys leading their teams who were not the first overall pick in the NFL.
And I mean, listen, can we not give some credit to Justin Herbert here? Number five overall or four overall wherever he went? I mean, hey, looks pretty.
You look pretty impressive on the weekend.
Well, that's that. That's that again.
And that's that flukey thing, right? Everyone has their perceptions.
They're worried about him now.
We don't know what he's gonna be, but even the initial sample size, right? The first thing you always want to see from a young quarterback and all.
You know, maybe Sam Donald probably has shown this.
I don't watch them enough, But it's like Daniel Jones when he comes in to replace last season.
Guess that run up the gut to get the touchdown for the Giants leads him back.
Miss Field goal.
They win the first game, their first game this season, his first career win.
Right to just show that that initial.
Bang, That initial flash.
Okay, this guy's got it.
There's things to figure out here, but 100% man Herbert, for everything that you thought they said about him and saying, All we want to do is I guess not.
This isn't funny.
I'm not laughing about it, but not have our starting quarterback accidentally punctured with Lung when he's getting an injection.
Before the game, that was the only thing that they wanted.
I could not be, Oh, could not believe it.
He effectively now is, of course, lost his job.
Tyrod Taylor And now this rookie, though, who they wouldn't have let him sniff the field this season.
That's how bad they want to protect them, comes out, flashes a little.
You go all right, let's get the kid in there and let's and let's see if he can run with this, and that's that shift as well.
He has some legs, all the young quarterbacks.
If you have a little bit of legs, a little bit of wheels get mobile.
That's where the quarterback position has been going and where you need to go if you want to stay competitive and not to derail.
This thing is, we get on the back end of it, Lawrence.
But are you? Were you excited about Philip Rivers coming in there? Because I I know I know where the team was coming off of last year and you feel like you're right there.
You have quality on both sides of the bowl, but I just don't.
I'm of the mindset that what you're going to end up doing is wasting a couple of good years of quality on both sides of the ball.
For a quarterback that is going to be, you know, he's going down, not up, not stabilizing.
And I just wonder if you've risked wasting quality for this team over a couple of years before Lawrence gives his answer.
I can answer Forum, See, it's not Philip Rivers, but he comes with, like, 14 kids, right? So if something I've just got players to replace to replace to replace it.
Factor came with his own offense.
In a way Ray is dead on.
Right? Um, see, back in the crib that he's got in the back because I mean, with him right now with Rivers.
When they picked him up, at first, I was like, Well, that's a stopgap way need to find, ah, franchise quarterback.
It's gonna be here for a long time.
Uh, we need to get him in the draft.
Hopefully, we can get him and, you know, pick somebody up.
That's that's gonna be good.
And the first round went by.
Obviously couldn't get nobody because, you know, we already grabbed the force.
Buckner Second round goes by.
We get a wide receiver and a running back.
Third round goes by, we get a safety fourth round pops up.
And who's this Jacob? Listen, fella, and then I start.
I look at this film, I hear everything that's going on in training camp, and this is legitimately what I think is going on.
I think that Rivers not only as a stopgap, but he's also that guy that can teach east and everything that he needs because apparently East has been in Rivers hip pocket all offseason even before training camp.
You know, talking to him, asking questions.
And right now he's doing the same thing Rivers has always been.
Rivers has been on point saying, I've watched East and throw footballs that I've never been able to throw in my life, you know? And that's something that makes me kind of like, Well, maybe Eastern could be the future.
He just needs to be picked up.
So just to clarify, you're you're you're not.
You weren't excited about Philip Rivers.
It's It's not great for the team.
No, stop that like, Yeah, but I feel as though the future of the team could very well possibly be already on that.
And, Adam, you're new to the NFL team here on SportsCastr, not new to the SportsCastr news team, but new to the NFL team when they drafted Easton.
Don't even get me started.
But what Lauren said about this kid, how he was never going to see the field, that he they took a flyer, and, uh, now, now he's singing his praises.
Look, I don't think Philip Rivers contract is the problem I think Jacoby percent making more money than Phillip Dorsett or than Philip Rivers is the problem.
Because, yes, you're giving up some.
You can't have 50 something million dollars in two quarterbacks.
They need to get off that percent contract if they're going to go forward with Philip Rivers Contract and Rivers contract ends this season.
If you feel great about east, you could turn around.
Say, Listen, we've got $50 million in capital.
What do we need to address here? Oh, sounds like yeah, I was gonna say you know what, Z? What? What's the scores that you've got for this? Since it's since you said this is gonna be an offensive game because it to really **** poor defense's.
You better believe it, buddy.
I think they had the over under around 49.
Jacksonville is gonna lay 2 to 3 points here in this one.
I'm saying I take Jacksonville outright, So if you're if you're a betting man, you can lay those points and have fun on.
Go ahead and give the dolphins a little bit of extra and make yourself a little extra coin in your pocket.
Yeah, Listen, I think it will be controlled on a fence for Jacksonville.
I I again mitigate mistakes.
If you're Minshew, control the ball.
Be smart with it.
You don't have to overthrow it.
Trust your running back that you that you have there in the backfield for you go with.
What Ray talked about is the strength of this offensive line and the run game.
So if they're doing the work for you, control time of possession, you're going to get an interception.
Even if you're a bad defense against Ryan Fitzpatrick, so I'll go ahead and clock this game.
Listen, let's let's let's let's live in the 28 to 17 world.
Jacksonville taking care of it.
I don't think I think it could be an arms race.
I know Ray mentioned that earlier, but I I just think that Jacksonville is a better team and this is a chance for them off of a really close lost to Tennessee to make a bit of a statement about Hey, we are a middle of the pack, maybe trending up team this year.
I think we're going to see six touchdown scored today, three by each team.
I'm predicting a high scoring game.
I'm telling you, go over 49.
I'm taking the over on this game.
The math tells me this Lawrence, 32 21 in favor of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
All right, well, 32 21.
And you says 49.
So you're only expecting, like, what? Two points higher than 49 over.
That's still over.
I got 35 to six touchdowns.
Is a lot of touchdowns in the game.
By the way, I don't think Miami's defense is gonna be even with even with D J chart out of the game.
I don't think Miami's gonna have a very good time stopping this Jacksonville offense. No.
And they're going to give up three touchdowns and three field goals and just thio just to ring my own bell here.
If I took the points last week, when I took those Bangles, I went ahead and I pulled that one out there.
Five point loss taken. Six.
So I risked myself last week.
If you're a betting man, I did.
You're right in this particular game.
Don't worry about any of it.
Have a have a good night.
Just enjoy yourself.
Sit back and enjoy it.
Florida? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, it is the game of Florida, right? Ladies and gentlemen, Adam and Lawrence.
I mean, this is not by any means a standing breaking game.
This isn't the Monday night game between Kansas City in Baltimore, but this is gonna be a good matchup.
And fellas, I'm telling everybody right now, enjoy this game.
Enjoy this weekend because I don't think there's a better week of football than Week three of the NFL this weekend.
Unless you're cold fan, let's make her It's make or break for everybody.
I agree with 100%.
This is this is here you go or Oh, by the way, Ah, lot of teams.
You got the Rams and the Bills trying to prove who's for Who's the Pretender? Who's the Contender? You got the Patriots trying to prove that that, you know, that Seattle game wasn't a fluke, and you've got the Raiders trying to prove that there are really legit to a no team you got the battle of really should be one and two in the A f.
On Monday night, you got two young rising teams here trying to show supremacy.
And there's I know there's more games on the weekend, that air just, you know, everything but everybody but the Colts.
And who are the Colts playing? Oh, come on, the Jets, the Jets.
I was just gonna say, everybody who's who.
The call to numbers playing the Jets.
But I was like, I think that's the cold.
So, yeah, we'll just have this coverage.
I just talked with Al Sacco, who does 40 Niners coverage and talking about the Giants matchup.
It's it's big for the Giants owing to, and that's fine on the other side of it.
With all those injuries for San Francisco, you're in a division where everyone else is, too.
And, oh, you dropped this game and follow one and two in that division, you know, extra extra playoff spot this year.
Okay, maybe you could get back involved there, but that Division six matchups and you just lost one of the division the week prior 40 Niners off of the Super Bowl loss.
You talk about week three.
It hangs in the balance for them this week.
In spite of all these injuries, they have to beat my Giants because I don't think you get up from a one and two in that particular event.
You could do it anywhere else in the NFC East.
You could go one and two and finished 79 win the division, but not out there in that NFC West.
San Francisco, San Francisco win seven games this year.
I'll be incredibly surprised.
And I had them winning the division, starting out.
I thought Joe was gonna jump through my computer screen last night and choked me.
But I took the G men to win that game.
I took it for a very different reason than people think.
I took it because of the sick Juan Barkley injury number one.
You know, I believe he's the best running back in the NFL, but it forced the Giants to do something else.
E mean, it forced him to get away from running through one guy and I from for me when he went down.
That changed the Giants and I was pretty impressed with him after that.
I don't think San Francisco can bounce back from these injuries.
I think they're demoralized and I think I think the Giants they're gonna not clean house, but I think they're gonna be comfortable and not not to belabor it, but bad teams with singular talents that actually hurts you.
When you're a great team and you have a singular talent, it makes you Super Bowl contenders.
When you're a bad team, you have one of those talents you rely on them to heavily.
You focus on them too much other defense's look to shut down that weapon, and it ends up being a little bit more of a hindrance.
When you take that away, you end up saying, Well, we got to get balanced now We got to use everything that we have in our ****nal and hopefully that's the case for the Giants.
Well, fellas, the game starts in 15 minutes.
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