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I've been betting our weekend It's been fun.
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I got my feelings hurt last night, but other than has been fun.
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So, anyway, guys, so today we're gonna do some NBA draft.
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A lot of this stuff I've given these guys, I'm the team ready and ever.
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So if you guys already, I think the number one pick is ah, Ethan with Minnesota.
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So who do you got? Definitely surprised to see Minnesota winning the draft lottery.
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Um, I think we're in a really interesting situation here because, uh, you know, at least for me, if I'm talking from the GM standpoint, my top guy doesn't necessarily fit as well as I'd like him to in Minnesota.
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For that reason, I am gonna go.
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Anthony Edwards, number one.
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Uh, gonna go upside play here.
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Uh, pair him alongside cat in D'Angelo, Russell, and go from there.
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Okay, well, Minnesota actually is one of my one of my three most interesting teams, so they don't have any major free agents other than Malik Beasley, the shooter.
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So you said they're gonna go Anthony Edwards.
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If they do that, are you willing to trade Jericho over in that situation? If they do so, I think, honestly, someone that can play and pair with Anthony Edwards, I'm not ready, at least personally to just sell the farm self stock on covert.
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Yet I think he's an improved shot away, Uh, and obviously improvement in other areas away from being a really solid and be a role player.
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At the very least, uh, so I don't think necessarily that the acquisition of Edwards would hurt Kovar or at least hurt his spot here in Minnesota.
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I actually think, you know, pairing Colbert, whose projected to be a really solid defensive prospect alongside Edwards may help him in a way, right? How far do you think this team has a lift from being a playoff team in the West? It's really tough.
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I mean, I literally I want down the West yesterday.
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It's like there's going to the improvement.
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There's going to be teams getting better.
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That is gonna be the steam, you know, dominant teams that we saw in the playoffs this year.
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Minnesota's in a really tough spot, especially in the conference, But I think you know, going with the upside play of Edwards here probably is one of the smartest things that they can do going forward because you know they need someone to emerge.
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They need.
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They need their core to emerge together in order to even make a run of the play offs in the West next year.
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In the next few years.
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Yeah, I agree. They have a good young team.
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I think they're a few years of waiting to mesh together.
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But next Golden State A with that one of mine arresting teams, Yes.
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So with Golden State obviously very interesting situation because they still have the pieces to be a contender, I think at two Well, there are a lot of upside plays you could go with.
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You could go, you know, like a wi***** are perceived upside play like Lemelle O R.
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Um, My my best pick for the Warriors would be Dunning off the number two, and I like Abdi in.
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He's He's a linking piece, uh, immune.
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Still in upside play, you know, he doesn't need to be amazing right away.
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He doesn't need to be a primary.
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He doesn't even need to have the ball in his hands a lot.
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He's gonna need to manipulate some big and rules pass well, scoring a lo option mid optional and play it awesome defense that he does and continue to develop this skill set and You know, I think that's the best value you could get in the Warriors Timeline.
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Ah, do that.
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I can contribute a few key ways instantly, with defense and playmaking being one.
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But he still has a large ceiling to work towards for their future.
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And a really great development staff toe work alongside being forward.
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And he has irrational self confidence that time.
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So I think that the great Cooper Golden State to pick up getting out the number two.
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So, you know, there's been a lot of speculation about this pick.
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Um, do would you consider trading the pig along with Andrew Wiggins to get a bigger piece, For example, a Joel Embiid, which you consider doing that? Well, I don't think that Joel and Beat would be traded it all.
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In this scenario, I don't know how many suitors I got, but I think and get any good after that, plus a lower pick, you know, move down to maybe 14 even, uh, anywhere down a late lotteries, you're gonna I think that's always a good move.
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And they could I know they're high and Halliburton, So they could, you know, maybe make a late you pick up another contributor in a trade.
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But I don't see that making any blockbuster news, especially with Wigan's or Ah or I just don't see realistically happening in this draft because of the kind of hierarchy at the top, right? Yeah, I don't think they will try to move the pick.
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I'm not sure if they will be able to, but I do.
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I do agree.
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I think they were probably their best bet.
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Would probably try to, ah, move down and see if they can maybe get him.
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Or you can pick it now, too.
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So you know the options air pretty good in your release in your favor.
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You can pretty much get anybody you want.
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So I do think they would try to move down and, um do.
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But I just think it's interesting that they do have a $17.
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2 million trade exception for mega dollar, so I want to know they do try toe used that and moving the pictures.
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I know some teams were interested.
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I don't I don't know if it will be, it'll be traded, but I think change is coming.
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I mean, this is they've been doing this for what three years have been tanking for what? Five and just haven't worked.
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Um, I know Ethan the Alexander smile.
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I know he likes the sixes.
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Everything to say about that.
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I'm hoping that then be is not traded in any scenario.
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Thats offseason.
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So I said, that's all I'm gonna say.
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But, uh, I was actually gonna ask Alex.
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Do you think you know, I think potentially the warriors could move down to get up via at maybe six or seven or something like that.
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Do you think that's a possibility? Like moving back a few spots to then pick up a guy like Abby or even Denver.
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So I mean, if he's there, I think the only situation that happens there, maybe Fla Melo is still on the board and somebody really buys him, is there? They're centerpieced moving forward.
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Oh, I think that's a possibility.
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But, um, yeah, I think Abdi is gonna be pretty coveted.
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I think he's probably gonna go top five partially due to recency bias and partially due toa it is just such a He's improved across the board, especially on his weaknesses, so but he's still there.
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I mean, sure you would love to take a guy you could get it to later on.
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Pick up another asset, but no, I think you'll be slim pickings regarding trading down in this class.
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I think you really have to buy all in on the mellow.
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So I want to get Derek and here's where you kind of probably no more about this than me.
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But I was doing some research about the war is in there in their financial.
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So most things make about 30 to 45% of their revenue from the arena. Tickets.
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Alcohol, sweet naming rights, etcetera.
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Well, the Warriors.
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They make about 80% their revenue strictly because the arena is so new and have out of money wrapped up into it.
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Also, they don't have a large TV market deal.
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Examples of the big market, but the war is don't have a low key T local TV deal, however, Joe Laker, because we know he's one the most financially responsible owners in the NBA.
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He had fed up a $250 million credit line against the arena to use towards player sellers.
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For example, even playoff teams like the jab as rockets no give Blazers.
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They cannot do this, so this is a huge advantage that you know they can use.
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This is one reason why I think they would probably trade to pick, to get a better and no good better than player.
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What do you think about that? I do think that they'll try to get a veteran player with that pick.
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But with Minnesota at one and Golden State it to, I just don't see many options to move either one.
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Even if you know financially, you have a credit line against the arena.
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Even if Minnesota's willing to go down toe anywhere, even in that 8 to 14 range, it's gonna be extremely hard to move both of those picks.
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And that's why I think if I was a fan of both those teams, I would be mentally preparing to go ahead and just act as if they're going to stay there and have to make those selections.
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So why would While it's a good idea in theory and even your strategic planning, it could work.
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It's hard to find a world where they could actually pull that off, right? Okay, So the third pick is Charlotte, back to Alex again.
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So I'm sure as many people know, uh, Killian days is number one on my board, but I will not be taking at, ah, number three to the Hornets.
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I think.
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I think just with their current position think you know, four rebuilds coming in order.
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Uh, if you get a chance to pick up a volume initiator advantage Creator, uh, you know, I think hes or ball would be a great bit, but I think they probably go take available.
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I think he'd have a chance to be a higher usage guy there, um, and bring some flair to that franchise.
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So think that would be a huge pickup for them? I definitely you revive that franchise moving for room? Yeah.
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I think he would bring definite from pop to that city.
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Could we know the harnesses? They've been horrible, you know, especially since Kimble's left.
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And they have really no juice.
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But I think if you do Alan Member, I think I can smell a three by three line of like that.
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You could have Graham ball may be ruinous together, playing at the same time.
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The reason I think that it can work in Charlotte because I buy Devante Graham as an off ball guard and I think wherever Lemelle logo reliever Lemelle oh, goes, you're gonna happen here, um, with an oddball guard, unless you're just fully convinced like, hey, we're taking the all he has to be by somebody who can play off.
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And that's why I think, Charlotte, I think I did a full 10 pick mark last night for somebody, and I picked Romelo Charlotte as well because I think it just fits.
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I think it works.
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I don't think either of the first two teams you're gonna take him.
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So Charlotte and even Chicago, like, I think Kobe White can play off the mall because we've shown the ability to score, create, shoot all that kind of stuff.
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So I'm with Alex here.
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I think this is a solid pick and it makes all the sense in the world.
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So therefore we have ah, even with Chicago and Alex is I know he's ready to eat with the e Timber fell.
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What do you have for the Bulls? So I think Alex just pick Lemelle because he wanted his guy on Chicago, and that's exactly where we're going here.
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We're going the best fighter home before.
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That's killing Hayes.
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Uh, we're gonna put in here in Chicago.
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I think it's a great fit.
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I think it's a real scenario that the Bulls could be potentially looking at a dilemma between Killian and obvious for this fourth pick right here.
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I think killing is 100% the right pick.
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Uh, you know, Kobe White aside, I think even the two can play get play together.
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They can co exist because of killing defensively because of killings, playmaking ability as well.
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I think also having him on a team with Zach Lavine.
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Maybe, you know, obviously the future is I still murky on him and Kobe White? Uh, it could expand his off ball ability offensively as well, which I think would be really good for his career tracked.
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I love the pick of killing a 04 to Chicago.
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I think it's best player on the board.
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It could be a franchise changing play for them.
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Here I am all end with you there, and at five, we have days first pick with the Cavaliers.
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They've taken with a guard, I believe, the last two years in a row.
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Last year So what do you do with five? Right here? Cleveland has a really interesting draft because with the same front office in place, that's made all these guards selections the last couple of years.
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But you can go guard again and go ball handler again and maybe admit that we didn't get some right in the past.
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Or maybe we don't know if we have our guys yet or you could go big and try to compliment them.
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And because the front office I don't know if they can afford to miss much mawr keep kicking the can down the road.
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I'm gonna go big here and Wiseman and a Con Wu there, right there, neck and neck for me As far a center one.
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I picked a Congo because a I have him rate higher.
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I think he's I like him. Morris, my center.
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Secondly, Wiseman Love and Drummond are all represented by the same agency.
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And I think if you put the same agency with three star centres all on one team together, I mean, if one gets unhappy, you have all three unhappy.
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If one wants out, then you just really can create a problem for not only your yourself, but for the agency.
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So I think that a combo is the right pick here.
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Definitely entertained.
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Wiseman entertained a koro as well, but I take a Congo to pair with those young guards.
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I mean, 69 I think he's What is he to 50? No, decently.
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Not great, but decent length and a shown great agility.
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Great tips, great feet.
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And I think he can be the center for somebody for a long time.
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So that's how I take care of five to Cleveland.
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I, like the pictures will on on when he does.
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Uh, I think with so much uncer*****y with that No, I think they likely will.
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Tristan Thompson also is a phrasing with them this summer as well that, um, six we have are for the Atlanta Hall.
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So I do.
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You just want to say, uh, I think that's a really interesting point, Derek, about the agency thing.
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I hadn't even considered that because I because I could see I mean, the last thing you want us to be Altman or coaching the Cavaliers and you have an agency.
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Great.
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It's Excel.
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It's a powerhouse agency breathing down your neck.
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Hey, I need All my guys have playing time like guys.
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They play the same position like I cannot.
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I cannot continue to do this like this is not gonna work.
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So either, at that point, you're almost forced to find a deal for Drummond.
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You're forced to find a deal for love.
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Um, and that's where I may not want to deal with all that stuff.
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And since I am, you know, Congo right there.
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Anyway, I'll go ahead and take a congruent.
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Just start planning for the future.
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Yeah, that's an interesting perspective.
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On the same page it is.
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Um, good point for the Hawks.
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So I really I think the Hawks are in an interesting spot as well, because they, of course, have a volume initiator an advantage reader.
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Try young.
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They're also stacking up young wings.
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Uh, you know, like Herder radish and Andre Hunter perfectly.
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You could either go big or go defense.
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And personally, I think the best fit for them technology.
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Either Polian tires Albert and her eyes kokoro and I am going to go Isaac Koro Just because I I think him and Hunter will be a great defensive combo.
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I think that the pressure on koro industry offensively, eyes gonna be rather low.
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So he will have plenty of time to develop.
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Uh, especially playoff off of trade.
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Young's gravity, I think, in that group of wings, I think that's the best fit for him.
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Be even a secondary or tertiary playmaker.
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Develop that shot.
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Keep playing that lock down defense that everybody loves.
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And Adam and sure, uh, MBA ready defender to that team to help them win before.
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Yeah, I like that picture.
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I mean, they have a good team.
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You're they have pieces and play.
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I think there a few years away from being a playoff team.
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Um, but I agree.
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I think you bring in a MBA ready defender along with the Andre, and I think that fits well with them.
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I think they can be scarce.
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And teams next year, uh, going forward.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I love that fit as seven.
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We have Ah, Ethan. With Detroit.
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Yes.
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With Detroit here, I think this is a team that could have really benefited from, uh, hitting well in the draft lottery and potentially moving up to be in a position to draft one of their point guards for the future.
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Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case for now.
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Unless someone like killing Hayes's to fall to maybe seven.
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I think that's a great fit for them.
00:18:58
Uh, as for what we're going to do with the pig, I'm taking my guy Alexis Poo Kosowski right here at number seven.
00:19:06
I think you got to go best player available, its best player on my board.
00:19:09
I haven't ranked number four.
00:19:10
I think this is a tremendous upside play.
00:19:13
Also, someone that you could potentially build a piece that you could potentially build around for the future.
00:19:17
I mean, again, you're talking about a guy who's his height is literally up near it.
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Could be anywhere from 6 10 to 72 We have absolutely no idea.
00:19:24
There's a lot of rumors going around, so I'm excited to see what he measures in at.
00:19:28
But again, Big Guy was about probably.
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I would say around 7 ft moves like a wing is classified as a wing, has a tremendous shooting package.
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I think his floor is higher than a lot of people player available.
00:19:42
The best upside play here.
00:19:44
You let them develop on a team that honestly really has, you know, limited pieces for the future already, as is on.
00:19:52
And you kind of you kind of just roll with this picking and you go around him at eight.
00:20:02
We have Ah, you're But there's all this pressure here.
00:20:06
The New York Knicks.
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They haven't moved up in the lottery, I believe, since Patrick Ewing, If anything, they move down this year.
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They moved on to spots.
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Unfortunately, um, me, I am conspiracy. There it.
00:20:17
I don't know if any of you are, like ever.
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I think that this is And point is this This is getting outrageous.
00:20:23
At some point, they just simply literally can not When the law, they have no look in the lottery.
00:20:28
I know they would probably rabbit b'more lucky in next year's lottery.
00:20:31
But let's face it, they haven't had any luck since Patrick Ewing sto Derek.
00:20:37
What can you do right now with the chips that you with a picture, then pick before you working? You do not make Knicks fans happy.
00:20:45
I think that this would be an ideal fit for them.
00:20:49
And I'm gonna take Devon Vasile.
00:20:52
Um I think tank, I I entertain overtopping.
00:20:55
I entertained Kyra Lewis Jr.
00:20:57
I entertained Halliburton, but at the end of the day, I think the cell's ability to effect and, quite frankly, takeover at times at least on the college level on the defensive end of the floor makes him a good option here, gives every beat every MBA team needs.
00:21:12
Wing defenders.
00:21:14
And while a Koro is probably the best on ball stopper in the class, I think that sells the best team defender.
00:21:20
So at him, I add his, ah, high level three point shooting.
00:21:24
And, uh, if I'm a Knicks fan, I would be very happy with this.
00:21:31
I think it makes sense for the Tom Thibodeau, you know, stepping into their head coach their you know, he's big on defense.
00:21:37
I think you get a great defender right there.
00:21:40
So I think I'll definitely like to pick at nine.
00:21:46
We have, ah, the wizard with Ethan.
00:21:50
So a nine year was it there? I feel like I've Adam in every single mock draft, super interesting situation.
00:21:56
Um, obviously the future for John Wall is still uncertain.
00:22:01
We don't know how he's gonna look coming off basically two years of it of injuries and not playing, Bradley Beal really emerged this season as just one of the one of the better players in the NBA.
00:22:12
To be quite honest with you, I think this team lacks wings.
00:22:16
I think they lack a lot of three point shooting outside of Bradley Beal.
00:22:21
Um, and I think they just overall lack pieces in the front court.
00:22:24
I think Patrick Williams is a great start here.
00:22:27
Someone that has a great base to build upon from Florida State.
00:22:31
Honestly, would have been the seller Patrick Williams, who ever felt this spot here because I feel like they need more two way guys.
00:22:37
Patrick Williams, in my opinion, is tremendous option at that to waste spot, someone who can also place him four, maybe even some small ball five in the future.
00:22:47
Extremely versatile.
00:22:48
Defensively, Um, I think he has a great base to build upon, and it's a really solid upside pick for the Wizards here.
00:23:03
And 10. We have the sun's on this.
00:23:05
Sons are also this is my final, third most interesting team, so they have Aaron Banks, who played well for them to see the need for agent.
00:23:13
You have Dario Saric, who's afraid, or he's restricted Jevon Carter, who is restricted, commenced.
00:23:18
He has a team option.
00:23:20
Bialo has a team in camera pan, and as a team options world the signs they go a no in a bubble, as we saw.
00:23:26
Um, they have a bunch of young, valuable players.
00:23:32
What do you think they're missing? That could weaken that.
00:23:35
They me that they're missing that could fixing this draft right here to fix them to going for Because, I mean, they should have been a playoff team, honestly.
00:23:40
But the ships this and following their favorite.
00:23:41
So what do they need right now? So they're really interesting because it's assumed they need a point guard.
00:23:49
They're going to go point guard.
00:23:51
But you know, when you list off everybody who's coming on 100 contract, we really don't know what they need and, quite frankly, a power forward could be an option.
00:24:00
That being said, I still end up at Tyreese.
00:24:04
Albert, Um, Kyra Lewis.
00:24:06
I actually do have as my number three point guard, So I do on a big board, have Kyra ahead of Halliburton at this time.
00:24:14
But when you already have Devin Booker, I think a connecting piece and a awful spot up catching shooter is what would complement him better than Cairo's speed and driving kick ability.
00:24:26
So that would be a really tough call from A from Phoenix with those two on the board.
00:24:31
But I go with Halliburton.
00:24:32
Hayek, you defensive player.
00:24:34
I do worry about the physicality and lack thereof.
00:24:37
Physical strength I can't really create for himself as far as getting to the rim.
00:24:42
But he's a great connector.
00:24:43
I think he makes your best players better.
00:24:46
And if Booker wants to initiate the offense, I trust Halliburton to score on a catch than I do Kyra at this point.
00:24:54
So for the next couple years, that's why Halliburton is a pick for me.
00:24:57
A 10.
00:25:00
Yeah, I definitely like.
00:25:01
I like to fit their cause.
00:25:02
I know Devin Booker.
00:25:03
You've pretty much been, you know, initiating offers for them.
00:25:06
For the most part, they haven't really had a Ricky Rubio play where for them this season.
00:25:09
But you know, that's been the biggest.
00:25:11
They haven't had a good solid point guard, believes, and Steve nationalist.
00:25:14
So I definitely like to pick there.
00:25:16
I think that he fits will not agree.
00:25:18
You said he will make a Devin Booker.
00:25:19
Better also think he helps out of DeAndre and as well that pick and roll pick and pop out there will definitely benefit.
00:25:24
I am as well, and I understand a lot of people are already kind of looking past Ricky Rubio.
00:25:29
And on one hand, I understand that I also think Rubio could be a fantastic teacher for a guy like Halliburton, and I think that's a very being here.
00:25:38
Oklahoma City Seeing Chris, Paul Teach Our young guys had a play, you know, not to call Rubio a Chris Paul level teacher, but I think it is important if you're going to bring in a guard to run the show, to have somebody, you know, kind of a quarterback, a rookie quarterback in NFL.
00:25:53
Guys who attempt to learn under their predecessors for a year to tend to do really well because they have time to catch up to the speed of the game and learn.
00:26:01
And that's another boy that I see this fit in Phoenix.
00:26:05
Yeah, I agree on me.
00:26:06
Rubio has been the lead with 78 years.
00:26:08
He's been legal.
00:26:09
While you know this is this is Ah hardly to get into when you can stay in the NBA for 678 years.
00:26:15
That shows, you know, the type of player he is.
00:26:16
And he's definitely a good teacher for, Ah, Halliburton.
00:26:19
If he goes there at 11.
00:26:22
Thought Derek has three picks in a row.
00:26:24
Is San Antonio Spurs at 11? So if I'm San Antonio, there's one guy I have on my mind when I come into the draft and it's Patrick Williams.
00:26:33
But seeing as he is gone, I would be very pleased to get my power forward a year in Obi Topping.
00:26:42
I think we have.
00:26:43
San Antonio has the ball handlers.
00:26:45
They've gone guard a couple years in a row, and I actually really like the ball handlers and wings that they brought in the last couple of years.
00:26:51
Older.
00:26:52
His contract is coming up really soon.
00:26:54
They don't necessarily have a four or five for the future, like cemented into their program.
00:26:58
So I think top in here.
00:27:00
It makes the most sense to me.
00:27:04
They if they get topping that, they're gonna have a very interesting ah young roster going for you.
00:27:09
Have Lani Walker um Murray par tal topping killed in Johnson the martyr rose in a big inspiration to center, but they have a very, very interesting young team going for, like the future for them at 12 again, you have, Ah, the Kings.
00:27:31
Eso the king's heir, actually, kind of a difficult one for me.
00:27:35
There's a handful of guys that I like, nobody that I necessarily love.
00:27:42
Um, I would end up taking Aaron Naysmith.
00:27:48
I wouldn't think about I would think about Lewis as a backup quicker.
00:27:52
I mean, you put Lewis and Fox on the same team like that would just be so fun to watch.
00:27:55
Like you could push the pace like no other.
00:27:57
No matter what unit you had on the floor, you could push.
00:28:01
So I like that.
00:28:02
I also entertained a Chua here, but knee Smith not being confident that they re sign Bogdanovich, they're gonna need another shooter.
00:28:11
Healed is constantly rumored around.
00:28:14
I mean to Philly, like you can read every day a trade that takes buddy healed up to the Sixers.
00:28:19
So I think I think they need to go shooting here.
00:28:23
Um and that's that's why I take me Smith, the 12.
00:28:25
Not that nothing is like a dream fit, but I think is the most logical option at this spot.
00:28:34
I mean, it's what he really really considered.
00:28:36
He's one of the best shooters in the drive.
00:28:37
I definitely like the people like you said, But here he's been, he's like it is every week.
00:28:42
He's being rumored to being frustrated.
00:28:46
I do like that pick there.
00:28:47
At 13 we have New Orleans with Alec from New Orleans.
00:28:51
So your love is also in an interesting spot because of the amount of young assets that they actually have.
00:28:58
Um, the forward projected have at least Lonzo Brandon Ingram course I am Drew holiday and at least the short term.
00:29:06
For now, Um, so you're really looking for guys that are going to contribute right away and help them push their way, you know, into playoff contention, or at least be a perennial playoff teams for now.
00:29:20
Eso With that in mind, I would like them to pick up Ah City Bay as just another complimentary elementary wing that can stress floor really well is, you know, a little pull up and projects is at the very least, a slight plus two defensively, but we'll fit the mold of a three in the ring.
00:29:47
And when you when you can't really find when you have ah core established already, I think getting the best support players is what you what you should look to draft, um, and on my board to I would I would also be fine going billion.
00:30:02
Tilly eventually obviously wait for high right now based on where he's project affected, but no, or even Desmond base.
00:30:11
Is that gonna help them be, You know, stick in the playoffs and all that, So finding some of his versatile is bay and as useful would be would be huge for them.
00:30:23
I think it's interesting pick for them, because over the next two years they have pretty much all their wings of Fraser by the English phrase in the summer.
00:30:30
Next year, Drew Holiday J.
00:30:32
A Heretic and Josh Hart also offer agents next summer.
00:30:36
So if you know, there's been rumors that they might not re sign Brandon Ingram there.
00:30:40
But I need another wing to replace him as well as you know, JJ ready your holiday.
00:30:44
He's in the studies now.
00:30:45
I think he wants to be on a team where he can contain it.
00:30:47
went surprised if he walked away a year from now.
00:30:49
Same with JJ Red****.
00:30:50
This actually was the first year of J. J.
00:30:53
Really is career where he did not make the playoffs.
00:30:55
So I also think that there could be He also could leave in a year as well.
00:31:00
Yeah, and the last pick of the lot of you know, you go. You go ahead.
00:31:05
Yeah, with Brandon Ingram.
00:31:06
I mean, the way he's developing recently, I don't see why they don't extending unless, Yes, for a ludicrous amount of money.
00:31:14
Um, I mean, personally, not my favorite wing of the years.
00:31:19
A wing necking read with some outlier tools.
00:31:22
And, ah, you know, they would be more of a support option.
00:31:26
I don't think he's you know, guy you could say is are ringing in the future, But he's gonna be a good wing that you could put on a playoff, which is valued, uh, in burn.
00:31:36
Right, uh, for the Celtics.
00:31:39
My right. Okay.
00:31:41
And I think just looking at the board, I go James Wiseman here, here, and, you know, they really need a drop big that could protect the rim a little bit.
00:31:54
And you know, even just play finish.
00:31:57
His role would be very simple early on, which I think is huge for Wiseman because he needs to really catch up as faras, uh, feel part of the game.
00:32:07
Stop putting him in a simplified role early on.
00:32:10
It is going to be really beneficial.
00:32:12
Especially Team is well coached and excellent for player development as the Because the Celtics and I think with the core you have there, we won't need to ask him to be high use digital, which is what I'm worried about when teams look at it in the top five.
00:32:34
I think this is probably the value maximization for Wiseman, and I think having a guy that has it turned upside is it's just gonna be a steal for them.
00:32:44
At 14 they need size Bassi.
00:32:51
They really only have Wantem run true center That's over.
00:32:55
16 Enough in his cancer.
00:32:57
You know they have Robert William forgive him from minutes, but he's been hurt a lot.
00:33:00
You have ah, peace or thise.
00:33:02
He's a he's he solemnly small. Any size.
00:33:05
I think that bacon get Boston can get James Live in their 14.
00:33:08
That that could probably be the Philippa Drive.
00:33:11
Definitely in a lot of I agree.
00:33:13
Yeah, and while I don't think that that's realistic asses are what's going to occur, come in this scenario, I mean, that that's his absolute floor were be 14.
00:33:26
Just he could be really useful on that and in the role that I like, So yeah, good.
00:33:37
The next second I want to get into is the plant your flag segment.
00:33:40
So, Ethan be, unfortunately, 1st 14 teams, he only got for someone.
00:33:44
I let him go first.
00:33:46
If there's one guy in the draft, Ethan, that you would just for sure on that this is your guy.
00:33:51
You know, it might not be Alexa.
00:33:52
Guy might not be digs up.
00:33:53
This is your guy you think he's gonna be? He's gonna be successful in the NBA.
00:33:56
Who would that be? I would like to say poku, but there's still obviously some risk factor there.
00:34:03
I don't.
00:34:04
I look a bit I like the top 14 guys on my board.
00:34:08
I think the most purifier, you know, consistent guy.
00:34:12
You're gonna get seven of a cell in this draft.
00:34:14
I think I have absolutely no doubt that he's going to be, at least at the very very least, like you know, because in the n B, a role player with his skill set as Derek mentioned, probably one of the better team defenders that I mean, at least personally I've ever evaluated.
00:34:30
I think he's just a game record on the defensive side of the bowl.
00:34:34
I think he's going to bring shooting to a team.
00:34:37
Any team can use his skill set.
00:34:39
Any team can use his three and the ability that he's gonna bring into the MBA.
00:34:43
I'm super excited for this.
00:34:44
So I'm super excited to see how he also grows at the N B.
00:34:46
A level two, because even at the college level, we saw awesome, you know, very limited.
00:34:51
And obviously it's not something that's projected to completely translate, but, you know, pull up shooting off terrible shooting from him.
00:34:58
That really surprised me during his sop****re year s.
00:35:00
So I'm interested to see if he expands on that ad, maybe 10 or so pounds and go from there because I think he's just got a tremendous, tremendously high floor.
00:35:09
I think he's someone that can pretty much fit into any situation and and you kind of just build with him.
00:35:19
I'd like to sell a lot.
00:35:20
I think Derrick picked him with Knicks on Knicks fans.
00:35:23
They're not gonna be happy that they're not happy with anything.
00:35:25
I don't blame, but he's He's good and I think he fits with Tom.
00:35:29
Thibodeau wants to do with the I think he fits well.
00:35:31
Im him in r J.
00:35:32
Barrow fit well together.
00:35:34
I like him.
00:35:35
I mean, for the situation that they were given at eight.
00:35:37
If for sale is still there, I think that's probably best pick for them.
00:35:42
Um, the next person time ago to the day of who's the guy you wanna plant your flag on in this draft.
00:35:51
So the cell would be my first one.
00:35:54
I do definitely agree with anything on that second, I'm gonna go with a guy that I actually believe if I was the Timberwolves at number one, that I would take at one.
00:36:04
And it is Denny avea.
00:36:08
Um, I'm a sucker for point forwards.
00:36:12
69 athletic.
00:36:13
He's got the capability to do that.
00:36:15
He was relied upon just a little bit more this year as a pick and roll handler again.
00:36:20
Not great not elite in any sense of the word, but he has improved his three point shooting since Plate has resumed since all the covert stuff broke out.
00:36:32
I think he was like 34 35% from three, which again is improved from what he had shot the beginning of the season.
00:36:40
So the kids just loves basketball.
00:36:43
He eats, sleeps, breathes the game.
00:36:45
He's competitive, He wants to win all the time.
00:36:48
And it's just a fire competitors.
00:36:49
And there's enough Intel issues with some of the other guys at the top toe, where if I'm Minnesota on my Hey, look, you know I've got my center.
00:36:58
I don't want to clog the pain anymore.
00:37:01
I'm not going to go Lemelle a ball because I've got my point guard.
00:37:05
And quite frankly, the balls have an issue not being in a major market.
00:37:10
So I feel like they're gonna want out anyway.
00:37:12
If I have a hard time picking a guy in the top three, if I believe that after his rookie deal, he's gonna want out, you know, sometimes there players good enough for you, just take him anyway.
00:37:21
We'll figure it out later, but then he is a guy that I think he's got the fire to get better continue to improve and be an asset, at least in some form or fashion on both ends of the floor toe, where, because of a cell has already been spoken for.
00:37:35
I'm gonna go with Denny just for what it's worth, Teoh Derek Derek mentioned it.
00:37:41
I It was between Edwards and obvious for number one, and I think it's a great point about not wanting to call it the paint.
00:37:48
It honestly just came down to me for Edwards being five on obviate, being six on my board, on obviously going with that, I think this slightly higher upside play in Edwards.
00:37:58
But right there with you on Auggie, I think that's something that Timberwolf should seriously consider when they're when they're, you know, taking number one.
00:38:04
Obviously, it's not something to be talked about pretty much at all, but I would hope they definitely consider albeit one.
00:38:10
It was interesting because when we first did the mock over a Bab**** hoops, Matt and I kind of looked at each other and it was like, OK, everybody say and Edwards air ball here.
00:38:19
But what do you think I tried to get out of him? What do you think? And he tried to get out of me.
00:38:22
What? What do you think? And when he said top in and I said I'd be a right off the bat, it clicked like Okay, so we're in agreement that I don't think Edwards is a sure thing, and it comes down to We believe that Malik Beasley is the long term shooting guard there, and he had done really well in Denver.
00:38:42
I think he's one of the most slept on guys and lead, and I hate the word slept on or a problem like we just hype that up so much in social media but believe Beasley is really good, and I think Minnesota is gonna do it.
00:38:53
Everything is going to keep him.
00:38:54
I don't think they traded for him to be a rental.
00:38:57
I think if you have Beasley, who is already a young guy, you bring in Edwards again.
00:39:01
You can never have too many creators like that's Ah, that's a rich a rich teams problem at that point.
00:39:07
But that's why I think you know, you always have to entertain the idea that they're not gonna pick one of those two guys at the top.
00:39:16
So how do you guys think Anthony Edwards fits? So he go if he goes one and he goes And Timberwolves? How do you think he fits with the answer? Russell and Cat, cause you know, he does have issues playing off the ball and things like that.
00:39:28
So how do you think he fits with them? I think ultimately he would be fine, because again, he is the highest upside ceiling guy.
00:39:37
I believe in this entire class.
00:39:39
So if you draft based on upside, you just say he has been shall be the best player.
00:39:44
Probably one of only two guys in this class have superstar capabilities in the future.
00:39:49
We'll just figure it out.
00:39:51
I think he's talented enough off the ball.
00:39:53
The where I wouldn't necessarily worry about it. Fit.
00:39:56
I worry more about we already have our guy.
00:39:58
Then how does Edwards fit that? You are.
00:40:02
I mean, I personally, I don't I don't mind re No, I don't mind the fit at all in Minnesota because I think the biggest thing with Edwards last year and I continue to harp on it is that we wanted to see him in an expanded role off the ball.
00:40:15
He was always good when he's going to the basket.
00:40:16
He was always good when he was making a hard plant and going back to our cut when he was going to the rim.
00:40:21
I think that's something that he would have the ability to do playing alongside someone like D.
00:40:25
Angelo Russell evenly.
00:40:27
You know, me really easily, in that sense.
00:40:29
And Karl Anthony towns having him play off the ball.
00:40:32
And maybe not even his most expansive role yet would be good for his development.
00:40:38
That's something that you know what the Warriors picking out, too, If he was to fall there, I think that's something they should also explores.
00:40:44
Please, you know, potentially playing Edwards in that low usage role from Day one and letting him build in kind of a secondary slash tourist, the Treasury rule.
00:40:52
I think that would, you know, really help his career track as opposed to just being forced into the spotlight, forced into the primary role right away.
00:41:01
Yeah, I'm with you there.
00:41:02
Um, and one thing, I also think it's gonna be great for Edwards if he does end up going to Minnesota is you know, the spacing that they have is really gonna give him the chance toe Unlock that driving kid, Billy.
00:41:15
You know, this slashing that we saw so much of on, we wanted him to do so much more, you know, instead of settling for full up three.
00:41:23
So I think that their current roster construction you, you have, ah, have it plans to give him the right role that began his developed.
00:41:34
And, you know, he's not gonna be, you know, dribble in the clock, out shooting, pull up threes, because it's just not what they're gonna ask him to do.
00:41:43
So I think that's one of the best fits a lot again.
00:41:46
Along with the warriors assed faras.
00:41:49
Expect expectations for his room.
00:41:52
So I don't I think that could potentially be a hit if if he goes to either those two teams the top containing alleys, Who's your Who is the guy that you're planning your flag on? As far as a lot of you guys, I'm planning my flag and killing.
00:42:12
And Hayes, uh, Evie and the seller also two guys.
00:42:15
I would say I'm quite high on they're more on my board, respectfully, so searching for rather.
00:42:23
But Gillian Hayes, I mean potential to be a volume advantage creator, um, which I think it isn't talked about enough because of the way he manipulates, pick and roll his essential shot creation his, you know, hard in it.
00:42:41
I don't want to say hardness, but you know, is developing Step back says, You know, they have become a huge part in the league for if you look at our mold of volume advantage creators and in the heart and again not comparing them at all.
00:42:56
But you get a guy that's in that mold of can constantly create advantages, whether that's off the dribble shooting, whether that's, uh, manipulating, picking little, uh, and as well as being quite a good defender and, um, at least as a team defender and potential would grow up the ball, I think that is Ah, I think that's a clear argument for a number one guy.
00:43:22
If you can get someone that creates advantages as much as he does, that's as smart as he is.
00:43:28
And with his talent is a I think that's a really rare find, So I'm planning my flag on Killian heats.
00:43:40
Okay, so I'm gonna start with Berrick.
00:43:43
Who was the guy in this drive? It could be it could be out.
00:43:46
The lottery could be wherever that you're not so high.
00:43:49
Only compared to like, the consensus as to where the consensus would have him.
00:43:59
Um, it could be the consensus or could just be a guy.
00:44:01
You know that you just it could be consensus.
00:44:03
Yeah, we could do that.
00:44:08
I have a couple issues with Paul.
00:44:10
Read as I watched him a lot.
00:44:13
I worry about his shooting at the N B.
00:44:15
A level I do love his defense and his activity on that end of the floor.
00:44:19
That goes without question.
00:44:21
But I think his ability to shoot and honestly in the same mold that makes me think I'm gonna put Tyler Bay as well again.
00:44:29
The defense of I.
00:44:30
Q.
00:44:31
Is there like he's an awesome vertical athlete? Long arms, Probably one of the best behind the selling a koro.
00:44:37
You could you could put bay in that mold or in that kind of category of like next best defenders in the class.
00:44:44
But I just don't know about the shooting yet.
00:44:45
I know his percentages were good, but he only hit 13 threes and 31 games.
00:44:49
So I'm hesitant to say, yes, he'll be a shooter now if he does, you've got a fantastic play on your hands.
00:44:56
But I'm just not convinced yet that he can do that at a reliable level.
00:45:06
One thing about re, too.
00:45:07
I know he did play my rare writers.
00:45:08
I washed him, you know, over the course of the season, sometimes the body, it just ends up all over the place.
00:45:15
You know, sometimes it's not hitting.
00:45:16
The rim is hitting people players.
00:45:17
The backboard is in everything.
00:45:19
Sometimes he can make that shot.
00:45:21
But I know sometimes one needs when he's having one of those games.
00:45:24
He's not even hitting the rim, so that thing does.
00:45:26
That does concern me. It will.
00:45:28
Where I look past it a little bit is that his activity is generally always there.
00:45:33
So it's not that he's Lindsay in the corner.
00:45:37
Sure, I guess I'll take it and shoot.
00:45:38
And it's a bad miss, a lot of his bad Mrs where he became too aggressive in a moment where it's like, whoa, all you give that back to the point guard like there's no need to shoot that.
00:45:49
But again, the mentality I'm okay with where he wants to create, he wants to score.
00:45:53
So I'm OK with it, in that sense, Buying development going forward, you put that irrational confidence kind of level that people have talked about because he thinks he could make everything you could make every place, you know, that could be a double edged sword.
00:46:14
But it's really interesting to work with, um, which is part of why I kind of had a little higher on him.
00:46:21
Because I think you could really move that that confidence in tow.
00:46:26
You know, the rule that you project.
00:46:28
I don't think he's gonna be a great sugar.
00:46:30
I think he's gonna be just inactive defender.
00:46:32
That's gonna, you know, finish plays here and there.
00:46:36
That shot comes around again, really good player.
00:46:39
But I think it could because of his confidence, you know, even he might I think in my report I said his ego or his confidence is going to drive improvement.
00:46:52
At least that would happen in his.
00:46:55
And that's why I don't hold it against read, because it's one of the reasons I love Denny.
00:47:02
No.
00:47:04
Okay, So, Abbott, who was the guy in the lab? But you're also not I am.
00:47:16
I am a Sfar out on burning Kerry as anybody, I think.
00:47:20
And, ah, I am being a winning Pete on.
00:47:27
Indeed, I think it's got a M Eno tour.
00:47:30
I think you're just kind of empty production.
00:47:33
I don't see their defensive value.
00:47:35
Uh, intel wise I'm carrying says not the guy putting any stock and being a great presence on my team.
00:47:46
Um, this just not not much forming there.
00:47:49
I don't see him being a productive n b a brink if it when it matters.
00:47:57
Um, I'm pretty much all out on ah, earning Karius faras the guy I would not take.
00:48:08
You better be careful talking about a to rule for that of reporter from I don't know where he was from.
00:48:12
What the He covered the University of Minnesota.
00:48:14
He was ****ed. I think it was Ethan.
00:48:16
Yeah, I think he was.
00:48:18
He was ****ed. I figure it wasn't you.
00:48:21
Yeah.
00:48:22
I'll take that one. I still to this day.
00:48:25
Not sure why, but well, I guess we'll just world that one.
00:48:29
Um I think I'll clip.
00:48:32
Go ahead.
00:48:35
I'm gonna say I'll clip this now, Adam on Twitter and see what he says.
00:48:38
But go. Go ahead.
00:48:41
I was just gonna say I think I was actually really surprised.
00:48:44
I mean, I obviously Alex has displayed his thoughts on burning carry multiple times.
00:48:49
I thought he was gonna go overtopping with this one.
00:48:51
Um and I mean, personally, I know that overtopping is pretty easy.
00:48:57
Polarizing as a prospect.
00:48:59
There's and I know he will probably most likely end up going top 10 on draft night.
00:49:04
Um, and I get the appeal with topping as well, at least for me, I haven't ranked 20 for that reason.
00:49:13
I just I severely worry about him defensively at the N B.
00:49:16
A level I worry that, you know, topping with the usage that he had at Dayton in the perfect offensive set for him and the perfect offensive scheme.
00:49:26
He excelled offensively.
00:49:27
He was an awesome offensive player.
00:49:30
I don't think he's going to have that same opportunity at that same usage level to excel in the MBA in the MBA, and for that reason, his deficiencies, you know, movement deficiencies.
00:49:40
Defensively, I have no idea where to put him on the floor, whether to put him as a drop five.
00:49:45
I absolutely would not.
00:49:46
Or whether you just hide him somewhere on the court as a four.
00:49:49
That never really seems to work out.
00:49:51
Well, I think his defensive negatives are gonna outweigh.
00:49:54
Is offensive positives that he brings and he's gonna be an overall negative player on the basketball court.
00:49:59
That's why I really worry about with O p Topping.
00:50:01
Obviously, I'd love to be wrong on because he's extremely fun to watch such an athletic beast, especially just as a lob there.
00:50:09
It probably the best in the class.
00:50:11
But his movement really, really, really worries me.
00:50:14
Also being you know, one of the older guys in this class is well, doesn't help eso I worry about top in.
00:50:20
He's my guy that I say I'm most out on compared to consensus.
00:50:26
Yeah, I need Yeah, I wrote a reporter.
00:50:30
Go ahead and going, Alex, Obviously, I'm I'm with you even using the thirties on my board just because, you know, again, I think perfect offensive scheme.
00:50:39
Um, but talking about how how many unique things he has that create advantages so little volume three point shooting A Zara's a pick and pop big creates, you know, doesn't create many advantages, but it creates a couple.
00:50:55
His vertical spacing creates a couple as well, if you use it in the lock, target or interior guy.
00:51:00
Her role, man.
00:51:02
All right.
00:51:03
Uh, I mean, post contribution might be your only other one, but you add those three things as his primary value on it.
00:51:15
A lot of passing is also another one where you keep beat advantages, but a lot of that out of doubles do What you won't see is, um, uh, paired with his defensive negatives.
00:51:26
I just don't think who gives teams as much as as much of an advantage is that some of the other bigs, uh, just the players in general in this class, I think think I'm gonna be about you and he will be productive in his own sense.
00:51:42
But I I'm not in on overtopping.
00:51:45
There's a lottery talent just cause yeah, defensively, it's it's gonna do not forget.
00:51:53
You might be unplayable in the playoffs as faras uh, you, you know, at least a very least in big moments.
00:52:01
But yeah, with even there completely.
00:52:08
One of my last reports idea was on him and I was talking actually, our he would just say, You say you talked about the recent just go relook at it.
00:52:17
Look at him, especially pick and pop and I are re washed it.
00:52:21
I've got a good lord, my teams gonna pick and pop the hell out of him because he just I don't I don't know if he just doesn't get it or he just doesn't wanna do it because it's just the man he supposed to switch on his garden just so open areas play after play after play.
00:52:39
And I didn't like Alex said, There's gonna be times when the playoff you just can't plan like there's absolutely no way you can plan because they're gonna just pick and pop the hell out of them.
00:52:47
He does some good things.
00:52:48
Well, he's super athletic.
00:52:49
He does pass the ball well, but the n B a novel about tweener tweener fourth and force that can shoot So he's not gonna be prepared.
00:52:57
Are, you know gonna do is the fifth of farmers correctly.
00:52:59
You just simply can't blame, especially in the playoffs.
00:53:03
That's the biggest thing is like I know we've had even Derek, Alex and I on one of our recent podcasts as well, probably went into 5 to 10 minutes just talking about top in this.
00:53:14
Well, I know derricks, I think, a bit higher than topping on Alex and I, uh, and the reasons for that.
00:53:21
But the defense's like it is concerning and the term athletic with him.
00:53:27
It doesn't account for lateral quickness, and that's where that's where I think he's going to get in trouble.
00:53:35
I actually I'm not really worried about him scoring a whole lot again, based, all based on fit and scheme.
00:53:41
Like you've said, if any team has a stretch big at that point, I think topping becomes valuable.
00:53:48
I would rather have a stretch big and then topping as my four, who can either slash catch, loves or step out and hit a three.
00:53:55
But if you have a center who wants to play in the post a lot, I don't want top and creating from the outside in like that.
00:54:01
That wouldn't make much sense.
00:54:02
It'll so a towns Yokich that that's where I see top and I'm like OK, that can work Oh, yeah, it's It's the lateral quickness on defense where it's going to become problematic.
00:54:16
And I really don't think there's something you can't disagree with that you can't find.
00:54:19
It is what it is if you watch the games.
00:54:21
So I do worry about that, for sure.
00:54:23
I'm worried about it and drop comfort.
00:54:26
I feel like I didn't move laterally moving.
00:54:30
Most certainly an issue.
00:54:33
Are you think vertically higher number, you know, forwards and backwards.
00:54:39
I also don't think so. Dayton.
00:54:41
So Dayton, Based on conversations I had never really heart with him the importance of becoming flexible.
00:54:49
It's like he has a heart is a difficult time getting all the way down on his stance.
00:54:52
He's not really flexible at the knees and hips, kind of stiff, so they didn't was went with approach again.
00:54:58
Based on what I've been told, that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
00:55:02
We're just gonna keep doing what we're doing because it's working and we're winning and scoring out of high at a increasingly high rate.
00:55:09
I think an MBA team will be able to get a little bit more out of him because it's Hey, this is your job now and we're We've invested a lot of money.
00:55:18
We're going to make sure that your lower body is ready.
00:55:21
And him and Jalen Smith are two guys that I think once they get into the crows that they're lower body concerns will go away at least a little, Not vastly.
00:55:33
I'm concerned with both of their lower bodies, but I think we'll be able to get a little bit more flexibility and hopeful little more lateral quickness.
00:55:40
But I mean, if we saw this much improvement, I think it would look drastic.
00:55:44
And in the film Yeah, I think I think that's definitely going to be focused.
00:55:49
Number one are reading standpoint for both Jalen.
00:55:52
Nothing on the toppings on.
00:55:55
I spoke with my twin brother.
00:55:57
Uh, the musicology guy spoke with his professor, gave in the whole case study on basic cream.
00:56:05
The reason you guys, I wanted to get more expert opinions that no more violent and they're like, we're gonna be good.
00:56:18
And I think you look at this speed jump in the NBA like I don't see it.
00:56:24
I think it would even out, I should say Well, as faras staying in negative because if you increased in, you know, just a little bit, marginally.
00:56:36
He would look better in college, of course.
00:56:37
But, I mean, he got exposed all across the board defensively college, And you add on the speed of the MBA and the spacing, Uh, it's gonna be accurately necessary for you even, you know, toe just max out his ladder of mobility as much as possible and just to keep him on the floor, because I think, you know, if he doesn't is gonna be just that much more profound.
00:57:04
And I can't ever see it being even more than a slight negative.
00:57:11
Uh, it's just way too concerning for me.
00:57:13
Honestly, I think what worries me, too.
00:57:16
On top of that is just like it's.
00:57:19
I think it's an entirely different conversation we're having if he's 2 to 3 years years younger, like maybe Jaylin Smith.
00:57:25
But, I mean, this is guy that I think 23 years old, going into the draft.
00:57:29
So there's not that, you know, extreme room to grow in these next few years that are so crucial for many prospects.
00:57:36
But I think Derrick is right in that if you even see a little bit of an improvement.
00:57:40
A supposed to him not moving like there's like a piano on his back or something like then he's going to be, I think, a lot more valuable, a lot more playable, in my opinion, just to, you know, make a few minor tweaks, a few minor improvements to his latter mobility to I think the biggest thing you should be focusing on is his backpedaling ability as well, because I think playing him as it dropped five would be, ah, lot more interesting with his length with his vertical leaping ability.
00:58:11
If he's able to improve his as someone who can you consistently backpedal without looking like he's gonna fall over, I think that's huge for him.
00:58:17
So so did I have a question for you? Because I like Topping as well.
00:58:26
Do you think that? I mean, I guess it wouldn't be a unique robot.
00:58:28
Do you think he could create a role for himself similar to Aaron Gordon? No.
00:58:33
And go to move a little bit more fluid than he does, But how do you think that he could create a role for himself? Mean he's super athletic, but if he's able to develop his three point shot.
00:58:41
That could be a big plus for a team that doesn't pick him.
00:58:46
I think you're looking more John Collins than you are Aaron Gordon.
00:58:50
I think because they're both Bernath laconically in their lower body, I think are more significantly gifted than talking.
00:58:56
I think that both are, um, but I mean, I think they can carve out a role again.
00:59:01
It's going to be based on what you're asked.
00:59:03
I don't think he's going to car about anything.
00:59:06
I think that a team in a system is going to have to have a place as fits.
00:59:13
Well, um, and that's that's why you know, Atlanta doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me now that they also have capella and call.
00:59:21
It is like I don't see him really doing anything that creating a rope for himself differently than what they're already doing.
00:59:28
Um, I don't know.
00:59:29
I think it's just gonna be based on plug and play him, but I think you'll be able to stretch.
00:59:33
I think you'll be able to shoot a average like a fine rate where he's not getting sagged off of all the time.
00:59:41
But you're also not worried about him.
00:59:42
You know, hitting multiple a game.
00:59:44
So I just I want to see him next to a stretch big where he can kind of on the pain as faras cuts and being a lot of target there on offense, huh? And crawl.
00:59:56
And ah, um, my last segment Forget you guys.
00:59:59
I think I want I want to give you three players that I just find it very interesting to me.
01:00:04
And I want to get you guys.
01:00:05
It stops on them.
01:00:06
I know this is one of theirs, guys, but ah, Kyra loose.
01:00:14
If you put Kyra Lewis Jr in a Kentucky jersey this year, he's going in the top five, and people are calling him to your in box.
01:00:22
Um, the speed is without question, one of the best live dribble pastors in the class.
01:00:28
He's already young either any direction, either hand.
01:00:33
His shooting percentages were great, so that's gonna have to improve.
01:00:35
And again with him, it is an upside play rather than what is going to give you in the first couple of years with what he already has.
01:00:43
So I really like him just because of the speed his speed on defense is actually good as well.
01:00:48
It can stay in front of people.
01:00:49
He stunts with accuracy.
01:00:51
He can get his lateral quickness and get in front of you on drives.
01:00:54
So I don't necessarily think he has superstar potential.
01:00:57
I don't think he's ever gonna be that kind of scorer.
01:01:00
But I think with his speed and ability to create and past open teammates, um, and even in tight windows, I feel like he's the guy who can provide better value for somebody.
01:01:10
Then where he's being mocked in the twenties by a lot of people.
01:01:17
Yeah, I mean, this is I love Carl Lewis. I haven't met seven.
01:01:22
I think the big and I didn't know if that was your about to agree with me or, you know, I thought I was so good.
01:01:30
I saw you do this.
01:01:31
I was like, Man, he's either loving this or he dies.
01:01:34
I love the control.
01:01:35
I love the Kentucky Common Cause.
01:01:36
I completely agree with you that it was hilarious and it's it's totally true as well.
01:01:40
And you're like, Oh my God, it's still 19 years old and he's played, you know.
01:01:43
Now, two years of college basketball.
01:01:46
The biggest thing I noticed from watching, you know, as much college room and stuff that I watched over quarantine to then watching the MBA.
01:01:53
It always strikes me.
01:01:54
How much faster the end game is Cairo player in this draft quick twitch guy in this draft, I I just I would love to see, even with even more spacing at an M B, A level coming off a pick and roll with his vision with his driving ability.
01:02:08
If he's able to improve from the three point line like I think he will over the next few years, just based off his free throw percentage is touch the volume that he was shooting in college.
01:02:18
I think his eventual floor is as a really, really high level six men in a few years.
01:02:23
I think he needs to watch Dennis.
01:02:25
He needs to watch tennis shooter, If you If you have seen any of this.
01:02:28
Oklahoma City, Houston.
01:02:29
Siri's the last two games that that we want trigger.
01:02:32
I sewed everybody on that Houston defense, and he was just straight up too fast.
01:02:37
He was too fast with his first step, any smaller than all of them But he gets to the Rams creative and again he can pass out of it.
01:02:44
He's also shooting a career high 38% from three.
01:02:47
So two heathens point like if if Kyra can get this shooting down, even to a league out with, let's say, Let's say Kyra shoots 35 36% from three.
01:02:57
You have.
01:02:58
You can't just give him all the room in the world, and then he's going by you.
01:03:01
If I'm him, I'm watching all the shooter.
01:03:03
Yes, the Aaron Fox.
01:03:04
But I'm watching all the shooter film I could get my hands on.
01:03:08
Yeah, Yeah.
01:03:10
I, uh you know, I was talking about advantage Creation.
01:03:14
Uh, higher speed is, you know, one of the best tools for that class point being a dentist shooter As far as the guy that uses that effectively ended.
01:03:27
The current crew in high value situations are in high stakes situations.
01:03:32
Rather, Um, so I think that half is 100% there for in the car.
01:03:38
About I in fact rule either is a six manners.
01:03:41
You know, you're starting initiator.
01:03:43
Um, his passing all again.
01:03:45
I don't think his passing is on the same level was a guy like haze or off the idea of all.
01:03:53
But I think it's in that second tier firmly as far as a guy that can create out of his, uh, create out of drives and pass out effectively.
01:04:04
So I think he's good enough or he's gonna create enough advantages.
01:04:08
Really be valuable.
01:04:13
Yeah, I like the dinner.
01:04:14
Schroeder compares him like he was watching the game of the day.
01:04:16
You just like he said, he was just too fair who they put on Covington hard.
01:04:20
And he's play better defense, whatever that means.
01:04:22
But they're just No.
01:04:23
One.
01:04:24
They could put in front of shoulder and some of the big would help.
01:04:26
He kicks it out to the corner to a shay.
01:04:28
Yeah, they put Covington and Green on him.
01:04:30
Who arguably the best defenders.
01:04:33
A long bit.
01:04:35
And it was It was a step and a half every single time.
01:04:40
You hungry? Um, the second I want to get into was Ah, RJ Hampton.
01:04:47
I know, uh, dig like this Texas guy as well.
01:04:50
So what do you guys think about him all the way? I'll go first.
01:04:57
Um, I'm I'm still a little out on R J.
01:05:01
Ah, there's a lot of, you know, Russian marks there.
01:05:04
I think as far as advantage creation again, you have a guy that has the speed and the burst as well as the finishing, potentially be a slashing creator.
01:05:15
I think, uh, I think he really needs to work on filling out and, um, just developing his overall impact.
01:05:23
But he's coming is that he's not a guy I've watched a ton off, but I like his energy.
01:05:31
I like I like his effort.
01:05:33
I like to.
01:05:35
He is a project.
01:05:37
I think it's gonna be a long road.
01:05:41
Yeah, high impact guy.
01:05:43
He's He's a role player right now, But there's upside.
01:05:46
Is there to be more than that? Yeah, I think the biggest thing with Hampton from you know, watching the majority of his MBL games is just being becoming respectable enough from behind the three point line to make someone take a step over that screen.
01:06:03
I think that will expand his offensive game so much more because he's a tremendous has tremendous projections as a finisher at the N B A level with his athleticism with his burst with his first step.
01:06:13
I love, you know, putting him in kind of a pick and rule said, if he's able to become more proficient from outside, I think that's one of his biggest swing skills as well.
01:06:23
As Alex said, adding to his frame a little bit because he has, you know, along that the tools to become a really solid defender as well.
01:06:31
Just with, you know, with his size solid positional sized that I think 6465 and you know foot speed, I think he could be a really solid perimeter defender at the next level.
01:06:41
He gets his hands on a lot of balls, gets in the passing lanes really well.
01:06:45
Eso he's someone again.
01:06:46
I kind of when I'm when I'm making my big boards.
01:06:48
He's literally one of the few guys.
01:06:50
I still have no idea where to rank, because I feel like I'm putting him where it's you low where I have about 21.
01:06:56
But again, he's someone that I struggled then also moving out because there's not a whole lot that I absolutely love with, you know, with his skill set, I think Hampton's a guy you could see go anywhere from late lottery too early to mid twenties, kind of depending on how much teams, by his swing skills, ability to shoot at the next level.
01:07:23
But again, the motor is there and, you know, combo guard.
01:07:27
The thing you have to be, I think aware with was with Hampton is I don't think he's going to be a contributor for quite some time, at least on a high level or successful playoff team.
01:07:39
So if you're a guy, if you're a team or organization who needs somebody to come in and be effective in the first two years, I think you stay away from Hampton altogether.
01:07:47
But if your team that's already full of youth, maybe already rebuilding or a team like New Orleans, where we're still kind of young and rebuilding, But we have tools that we can compete in your future if we want to.
01:08:00
Those are the kind of fits that makes sense to me.
01:08:07
And lastly, is Ah, Leandro Baldomero.
01:08:11
I'm I really, really, really like this guy.
01:08:13
He just plays with the slatted.
01:08:15
I think that everyone can just buy into what do you Ah, some of start with Alex? What do you think about tomorrow? This is what? But there's got that.
01:08:29
This is what I got a long piece up on him on Bab****.
01:08:34
Oops.
01:08:35
I love bone marrow.
01:08:36
I'm gonna let Alex go first.
01:08:38
But, Tobias, you couldn't not have picked three better guys for me to talk about.
01:08:42
I love this segment.
01:08:43
Is my favorite so far.
01:08:44
A big fan.
01:08:46
Yeah, I like Romero a lot.
01:08:49
You know, he's one of the biggest.
01:08:51
If he shoots guys, I think there's there's reason to believe that you will be able to at least the league average rate.
01:08:58
The confidence is there at times.
01:09:01
Um, and the volume is there as faras Project Herbal.
01:09:04
But, um, you know, love his positional sizes of 67 point guard beckon.
01:09:10
He's super creative off live dribbles.
01:09:13
Talk about advantage, creation and pick and roll.
01:09:16
Your probably one the best as far as a guy that's going to create consistent ones, not on a killing his level of my thinking, but still in that second tier with Cairo's faras advantage creators.
01:09:28
Um, love is the defense.
01:09:30
I think the potential versatility you have there in 67 guardians is just awesome, and the effort is there, too, so I really like tomorrow is essential impact to a guard.
01:09:45
Uh, Derek, if you want delivery on his contract situation, Yes, so is so.
01:09:54
He did.
01:09:55
He did sign an extension.
01:09:57
It still has an MBA out clothes in it.
01:10:00
So if he is drafted based on our conversations, we haven't been cleared to give ranges and numbers from the agency, but I will just say earlier is better.
01:10:10
So I would have my guess is that if someone does want him to come over early, maybe even stash, But if somebody really wants him in the organization, I feel like you almost kind of have to pick him before 20.
01:10:21
Which is this.
01:10:23
It's a reach to me again.
01:10:25
Like, if I'm Boston and I have that 14th pick man, I might just do it.
01:10:30
I might do it because I don't need a guy right now.
01:10:32
I can afford to stash somebody.
01:10:33
I can afford to wait and have him come over later.
01:10:36
Um, and if it's a guy, I'm really convinced that I wanted my team and again, irrational confidence tries to fit, passes it into windows, that a lot of time that they're just not even there.
01:10:46
And sometimes he finds it.
01:10:48
Sometimes the ball makes it through in your life.
01:10:49
How did he make that pass? Other times you think Gomera, what you doing, man? Like that was a stupid past.
01:10:54
Don't try that next time.
01:10:55
But he's clever. He's crafty.
01:10:57
Um, I mean, you trust himself, so I really like it.
01:11:00
But contract wise, I think earlier would be better for him.
01:11:03
But there is an MBA out If someone were to take him, I really like bone marrow as well.
01:11:10
He's someone that's ranks 17th, and obviously he's the, uh he's derricks.
01:11:15
Poku, too, to my actual poku.
01:11:18
So we've had our battles about him.
01:11:19
But I think you know, if you do have the opportunity to pick him in the top 20 you should absolutely pull the trigger.
01:11:25
This is a guy that's gonna not only as you guys mentioned be a tremendous initiator playmaker at 67 at the point guard spot, which is what he's already doing in Barcelona right now, which is pretty exceptional for you know, just how young he is, but just a tenacious on ball defender picks up guys from full court.
01:11:43
I love his intensity on the perimeter.
01:11:46
I think that's something that's going to translate to the n B a level, even though he's not the most, you know, outstanding outstandingly athletic guy in the entire world.
01:11:54
If the shot does come around, which is what I'm still a little bit worried about, which is still what kind of holds me out of the lottery on ball tomorrow, then you're getting a really, really interesting prospect here.
01:12:05
You got a guy super super interesting at his size with his playmaking ability in his defense.
01:12:16
I'm gonna give you guys one last guy.
01:12:17
I've been hearing a lot about him, especially me.
01:12:19
Being from Houston is Ah, Nate hitting.
01:12:22
People have been telling me the last couple of months.
01:12:23
Tobias, you really got to start talking about Native and you've got to start talking about him.
01:12:27
Um, I watched this tape.
01:12:30
I'm I think he's goody rebounding off the ball.
01:12:31
He can really shoot. He's a big guard.
01:12:33
65 to 10.
01:12:34
What do you guys have you guys done any instance of research about him, and if so, what do you guys think about him? I wrote with Father Ethan yesterday, and he's probably one of my one of my favorite guys in this class.
01:12:52
And it's just as the draft process has gone on, especially just talking about second round guys as the drug bosses gone.
01:12:59
We've seen more of him on camera, breaking down film and stuff like that.
01:13:02
I think he did one with PBC as well.
01:13:03
That was just exceptional.
01:13:05
I love his mindset.
01:13:08
I love him off the court.
01:13:10
I think this is a guy you like, a 65 guy that averaged about nine rebounds per game this year.
01:13:15
A Houston. He just makes winning plays.
01:13:17
Hey, gets rebounds that he shouldn't get he I think he makes Plates defensively that he shouldn't make, but he kind of just You can just makes it happen.
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And that's just the, you know, the winning the winning instincts with inside him.
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Aside from that, you're getting a guy.
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If you dropped in two men is an exceptional team defender, in my opinion, with room to grow on the Bolas.
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Well, um, I think him as a three point shooter, he's someone that you can you can kind of stick in certain places and maybe rely on you know, instantly to knock down a few threes per game.
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He's got room to grow their I think he was around 39% on four attempts per game this year.
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Uh, I'm excited to see if he does get drafted.
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I thought it was, frankly, just ridiculous that he wasn't invited to the N B A combine.
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I believe he wasn't one of the top 100 guys.
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I thought, Uh, and so I'm really interested to see if he's able to go in the second round.
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Yeah, I think a Sfar, the guy that provides defensive effort, makes winning plays, is a rebounder, uh, and just really has potential DEA three, and you get a ZA guard.
01:14:26
I think there's no reason you don't take a shot it in second round, especially.
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Yeah, he's fascinating because I love anybody with a motor who's willing to do the dirty work for you, and that's what you're gonna get in him.
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Get all the rebounds, offense and defense.
01:14:44
Decent pastor.
01:14:45
I just worry about how he contributes on the offensive end.
01:14:49
You know, it's Alex's point earlier, kind about topping, where you lay out his strengths and if these air his highest, you know these are the biggest strengthen.
01:14:57
Maybe I don't know what I can get out of you on this end of the floor and with Kittens game, I'm not totally sure what you get on offense.
01:15:03
So as much as I love everything else, you know, there are hesitations about how high I would pick him of this in our conversations.
01:15:11
There are some picks in the second round that makes sense.
01:15:13
Like I think Atlanta at 50 would make a lot of sense.
01:15:17
You could run lineups where you put him next to Trey and maybe get some somebody opposite of him who isn't going to stop the ball on offense but can help mask Young a little bit on the defensive end.
01:15:27
I think Golden State, at 48 I think the Clippers of 57 even I think they would be willing to take a shot on a guy like him is just gonna take a certain kind of role.
01:15:36
Because if you have somebody on the board who maybe has his issues but isn't high upside offensive guy, can you justify your organization taking him and that's kind of the discussion you have to have, but It wouldn't shock me if if we ended up seeing him picked kind of in that 50 to 60 45 to 60 maybe range in the draft.
01:15:59
Okay, well, I want to thank all you guys for coming on my podcast today.
01:16:02
And make sure you go check out Alex's new article on new scouting report on Devin Facil.
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01:16:08
Gin toe mandate for his new promotion with the Bab**** hoops.
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You also can see him on NBC's blind spot playing Roman.
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I think it comes on Tuesday and Wednesday night is one of my favorite shows.
01:16:20
And then you can also also check out the things prospect.
01:16:25
Odd is, Well, if you get African on my show today.
01:16:28
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01:16:29
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01:16:30
Thanks for having us, man.
01:16:32
We always appreciate it.
01:16:34
Great.
01:16:35
Coming off problem. You guys be safe out there.
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Talking about the NBA Draft Lottery with Alex Brown, Derek Murray and Ethan Piechota

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I've been betting our weekend It's been fun.
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I got my feelings hurt last night, but other than has been fun.
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So, anyway, guys, so today we're gonna do some NBA draft.
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A lot of this stuff I've given these guys, I'm the team ready and ever.
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So if you guys already, I think the number one pick is ah, Ethan with Minnesota.
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So who do you got? Definitely surprised to see Minnesota winning the draft lottery.
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Um, I think we're in a really interesting situation here because, uh, you know, at least for me, if I'm talking from the GM standpoint, my top guy doesn't necessarily fit as well as I'd like him to in Minnesota.
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For that reason, I am gonna go.
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Anthony Edwards, number one.
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Uh, gonna go upside play here.
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Uh, pair him alongside cat in D'Angelo, Russell, and go from there.
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Okay, well, Minnesota actually is one of my one of my three most interesting teams, so they don't have any major free agents other than Malik Beasley, the shooter.
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So you said they're gonna go Anthony Edwards.
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If they do that, are you willing to trade Jericho over in that situation? If they do so, I think, honestly, someone that can play and pair with Anthony Edwards, I'm not ready, at least personally to just sell the farm self stock on covert.
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Yet I think he's an improved shot away, Uh, and obviously improvement in other areas away from being a really solid and be a role player.
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At the very least, uh, so I don't think necessarily that the acquisition of Edwards would hurt Kovar or at least hurt his spot here in Minnesota.
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I actually think, you know, pairing Colbert, whose projected to be a really solid defensive prospect alongside Edwards may help him in a way, right? How far do you think this team has a lift from being a playoff team in the West? It's really tough.
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I mean, I literally I want down the West yesterday.
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It's like there's going to the improvement.
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There's going to be teams getting better.
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That is gonna be the steam, you know, dominant teams that we saw in the playoffs this year.
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Minnesota's in a really tough spot, especially in the conference, But I think you know, going with the upside play of Edwards here probably is one of the smartest things that they can do going forward because you know they need someone to emerge.
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They need.
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They need their core to emerge together in order to even make a run of the play offs in the West next year.
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In the next few years.
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Yeah, I agree. They have a good young team.
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I think they're a few years of waiting to mesh together.
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But next Golden State A with that one of mine arresting teams, Yes.
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So with Golden State obviously very interesting situation because they still have the pieces to be a contender, I think at two Well, there are a lot of upside plays you could go with.
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You could go, you know, like a wi***** are perceived upside play like Lemelle O R.
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Um, My my best pick for the Warriors would be Dunning off the number two, and I like Abdi in.
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He's He's a linking piece, uh, immune.
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Still in upside play, you know, he doesn't need to be amazing right away.
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He doesn't need to be a primary.
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He doesn't even need to have the ball in his hands a lot.
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He's gonna need to manipulate some big and rules pass well, scoring a lo option mid optional and play it awesome defense that he does and continue to develop this skill set and You know, I think that's the best value you could get in the Warriors Timeline.
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Ah, do that.
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I can contribute a few key ways instantly, with defense and playmaking being one.
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But he still has a large ceiling to work towards for their future.
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And a really great development staff toe work alongside being forward.
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And he has irrational self confidence that time.
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So I think that the great Cooper Golden State to pick up getting out the number two.
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So, you know, there's been a lot of speculation about this pick.
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Um, do would you consider trading the pig along with Andrew Wiggins to get a bigger piece, For example, a Joel Embiid, which you consider doing that? Well, I don't think that Joel and Beat would be traded it all.
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In this scenario, I don't know how many suitors I got, but I think and get any good after that, plus a lower pick, you know, move down to maybe 14 even, uh, anywhere down a late lotteries, you're gonna I think that's always a good move.
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And they could I know they're high and Halliburton, So they could, you know, maybe make a late you pick up another contributor in a trade.
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But I don't see that making any blockbuster news, especially with Wigan's or Ah or I just don't see realistically happening in this draft because of the kind of hierarchy at the top, right? Yeah, I don't think they will try to move the pick.
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I'm not sure if they will be able to, but I do.
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I do agree.
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I think they were probably their best bet.
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Would probably try to, ah, move down and see if they can maybe get him.
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Or you can pick it now, too.
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So you know the options air pretty good in your release in your favor.
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You can pretty much get anybody you want.
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So I do think they would try to move down and, um do.
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But I just think it's interesting that they do have a $17.
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2 million trade exception for mega dollar, so I want to know they do try toe used that and moving the pictures.
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I know some teams were interested.
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I don't I don't know if it will be, it'll be traded, but I think change is coming.
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I mean, this is they've been doing this for what three years have been tanking for what? Five and just haven't worked.
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Um, I know Ethan the Alexander smile.
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I know he likes the sixes.
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Everything to say about that.
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I'm hoping that then be is not traded in any scenario.
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Thats offseason.
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So I said, that's all I'm gonna say.
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But, uh, I was actually gonna ask Alex.
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Do you think you know, I think potentially the warriors could move down to get up via at maybe six or seven or something like that.
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Do you think that's a possibility? Like moving back a few spots to then pick up a guy like Abby or even Denver.
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So I mean, if he's there, I think the only situation that happens there, maybe Fla Melo is still on the board and somebody really buys him, is there? They're centerpieced moving forward.
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Oh, I think that's a possibility.
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But, um, yeah, I think Abdi is gonna be pretty coveted.
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I think he's probably gonna go top five partially due to recency bias and partially due toa it is just such a He's improved across the board, especially on his weaknesses, so but he's still there.
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I mean, sure you would love to take a guy you could get it to later on.
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Pick up another asset, but no, I think you'll be slim pickings regarding trading down in this class.
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I think you really have to buy all in on the mellow.
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So I want to get Derek and here's where you kind of probably no more about this than me.
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But I was doing some research about the war is in there in their financial.
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So most things make about 30 to 45% of their revenue from the arena. Tickets.
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Alcohol, sweet naming rights, etcetera.
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Well, the Warriors.
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They make about 80% their revenue strictly because the arena is so new and have out of money wrapped up into it.
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Also, they don't have a large TV market deal.
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Examples of the big market, but the war is don't have a low key T local TV deal, however, Joe Laker, because we know he's one the most financially responsible owners in the NBA.
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He had fed up a $250 million credit line against the arena to use towards player sellers.
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For example, even playoff teams like the jab as rockets no give Blazers.
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They cannot do this, so this is a huge advantage that you know they can use.
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This is one reason why I think they would probably trade to pick, to get a better and no good better than player.
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What do you think about that? I do think that they'll try to get a veteran player with that pick.
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But with Minnesota at one and Golden State it to, I just don't see many options to move either one.
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Even if you know financially, you have a credit line against the arena.
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Even if Minnesota's willing to go down toe anywhere, even in that 8 to 14 range, it's gonna be extremely hard to move both of those picks.
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And that's why I think if I was a fan of both those teams, I would be mentally preparing to go ahead and just act as if they're going to stay there and have to make those selections.
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So why would While it's a good idea in theory and even your strategic planning, it could work.
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It's hard to find a world where they could actually pull that off, right? Okay, So the third pick is Charlotte, back to Alex again.
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So I'm sure as many people know, uh, Killian days is number one on my board, but I will not be taking at, ah, number three to the Hornets.
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I think.
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I think just with their current position think you know, four rebuilds coming in order.
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Uh, if you get a chance to pick up a volume initiator advantage Creator, uh, you know, I think hes or ball would be a great bit, but I think they probably go take available.
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I think he'd have a chance to be a higher usage guy there, um, and bring some flair to that franchise.
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So think that would be a huge pickup for them? I definitely you revive that franchise moving for room? Yeah.
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I think he would bring definite from pop to that city.
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Could we know the harnesses? They've been horrible, you know, especially since Kimble's left.
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And they have really no juice.
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But I think if you do Alan Member, I think I can smell a three by three line of like that.
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You could have Graham ball may be ruinous together, playing at the same time.
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The reason I think that it can work in Charlotte because I buy Devante Graham as an off ball guard and I think wherever Lemelle logo reliever Lemelle oh, goes, you're gonna happen here, um, with an oddball guard, unless you're just fully convinced like, hey, we're taking the all he has to be by somebody who can play off.
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And that's why I think, Charlotte, I think I did a full 10 pick mark last night for somebody, and I picked Romelo Charlotte as well because I think it just fits.
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I think it works.
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I don't think either of the first two teams you're gonna take him.
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So Charlotte and even Chicago, like, I think Kobe White can play off the mall because we've shown the ability to score, create, shoot all that kind of stuff.
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So I'm with Alex here.
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I think this is a solid pick and it makes all the sense in the world.
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So therefore we have ah, even with Chicago and Alex is I know he's ready to eat with the e Timber fell.
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What do you have for the Bulls? So I think Alex just pick Lemelle because he wanted his guy on Chicago, and that's exactly where we're going here.
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We're going the best fighter home before.
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That's killing Hayes.
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Uh, we're gonna put in here in Chicago.
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I think it's a great fit.
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I think it's a real scenario that the Bulls could be potentially looking at a dilemma between Killian and obvious for this fourth pick right here.
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I think killing is 100% the right pick.
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Uh, you know, Kobe White aside, I think even the two can play get play together.
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They can co exist because of killing defensively because of killings, playmaking ability as well.
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I think also having him on a team with Zach Lavine.
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Maybe, you know, obviously the future is I still murky on him and Kobe White? Uh, it could expand his off ball ability offensively as well, which I think would be really good for his career tracked.
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I love the pick of killing a 04 to Chicago.
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I think it's best player on the board.
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It could be a franchise changing play for them.
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Here I am all end with you there, and at five, we have days first pick with the Cavaliers.
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They've taken with a guard, I believe, the last two years in a row.
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Last year So what do you do with five? Right here? Cleveland has a really interesting draft because with the same front office in place, that's made all these guards selections the last couple of years.
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But you can go guard again and go ball handler again and maybe admit that we didn't get some right in the past.
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Or maybe we don't know if we have our guys yet or you could go big and try to compliment them.
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And because the front office I don't know if they can afford to miss much mawr keep kicking the can down the road.
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I'm gonna go big here and Wiseman and a Con Wu there, right there, neck and neck for me As far a center one.
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I picked a Congo because a I have him rate higher.
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I think he's I like him. Morris, my center.
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Secondly, Wiseman Love and Drummond are all represented by the same agency.
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And I think if you put the same agency with three star centres all on one team together, I mean, if one gets unhappy, you have all three unhappy.
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If one wants out, then you just really can create a problem for not only your yourself, but for the agency.
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So I think that a combo is the right pick here.
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Definitely entertained.
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Wiseman entertained a koro as well, but I take a Congo to pair with those young guards.
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I mean, 69 I think he's What is he to 50? No, decently.
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Not great, but decent length and a shown great agility.
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Great tips, great feet.
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And I think he can be the center for somebody for a long time.
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So that's how I take care of five to Cleveland.
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I, like the pictures will on on when he does.
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Uh, I think with so much uncer*****y with that No, I think they likely will.
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Tristan Thompson also is a phrasing with them this summer as well that, um, six we have are for the Atlanta Hall.
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So I do.
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You just want to say, uh, I think that's a really interesting point, Derek, about the agency thing.
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I hadn't even considered that because I because I could see I mean, the last thing you want us to be Altman or coaching the Cavaliers and you have an agency.
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Great.
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It's Excel.
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It's a powerhouse agency breathing down your neck.
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Hey, I need All my guys have playing time like guys.
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They play the same position like I cannot.
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I cannot continue to do this like this is not gonna work.
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So either, at that point, you're almost forced to find a deal for Drummond.
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You're forced to find a deal for love.
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Um, and that's where I may not want to deal with all that stuff.
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And since I am, you know, Congo right there.
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Anyway, I'll go ahead and take a congruent.
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Just start planning for the future.
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Yeah, that's an interesting perspective.
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On the same page it is.
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Um, good point for the Hawks.
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So I really I think the Hawks are in an interesting spot as well, because they, of course, have a volume initiator an advantage reader.
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Try young.
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They're also stacking up young wings.
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Uh, you know, like Herder radish and Andre Hunter perfectly.
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You could either go big or go defense.
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And personally, I think the best fit for them technology.
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Either Polian tires Albert and her eyes kokoro and I am going to go Isaac Koro Just because I I think him and Hunter will be a great defensive combo.
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I think that the pressure on koro industry offensively, eyes gonna be rather low.
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So he will have plenty of time to develop.
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Uh, especially playoff off of trade.
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Young's gravity, I think, in that group of wings, I think that's the best fit for him.
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Be even a secondary or tertiary playmaker.
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Develop that shot.
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Keep playing that lock down defense that everybody loves.
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And Adam and sure, uh, MBA ready defender to that team to help them win before.
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Yeah, I like that picture.
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I mean, they have a good team.
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You're they have pieces and play.
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I think there a few years away from being a playoff team.
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Um, but I agree.
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I think you bring in a MBA ready defender along with the Andre, and I think that fits well with them.
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I think they can be scarce.
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And teams next year, uh, going forward.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I love that fit as seven.
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We have Ah, Ethan. With Detroit.
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Yes.
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With Detroit here, I think this is a team that could have really benefited from, uh, hitting well in the draft lottery and potentially moving up to be in a position to draft one of their point guards for the future.
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Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case for now.
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Unless someone like killing Hayes's to fall to maybe seven.
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I think that's a great fit for them.
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Uh, as for what we're going to do with the pig, I'm taking my guy Alexis Poo Kosowski right here at number seven.
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I think you got to go best player available, its best player on my board.
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I haven't ranked number four.
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I think this is a tremendous upside play.
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Also, someone that you could potentially build a piece that you could potentially build around for the future.
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I mean, again, you're talking about a guy who's his height is literally up near it.
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Could be anywhere from 6 10 to 72 We have absolutely no idea.
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There's a lot of rumors going around, so I'm excited to see what he measures in at.
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But again, Big Guy was about probably.
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I would say around 7 ft moves like a wing is classified as a wing, has a tremendous shooting package.
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I think his floor is higher than a lot of people player available.
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The best upside play here.
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You let them develop on a team that honestly really has, you know, limited pieces for the future already, as is on.
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And you kind of you kind of just roll with this picking and you go around him at eight.
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We have Ah, you're But there's all this pressure here.
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The New York Knicks.
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They haven't moved up in the lottery, I believe, since Patrick Ewing, If anything, they move down this year.
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They moved on to spots.
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Unfortunately, um, me, I am conspiracy. There it.
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I don't know if any of you are, like ever.
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I think that this is And point is this This is getting outrageous.
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At some point, they just simply literally can not When the law, they have no look in the lottery.
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I know they would probably rabbit b'more lucky in next year's lottery.
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But let's face it, they haven't had any luck since Patrick Ewing sto Derek.
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What can you do right now with the chips that you with a picture, then pick before you working? You do not make Knicks fans happy.
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I think that this would be an ideal fit for them.
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And I'm gonna take Devon Vasile.
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Um I think tank, I I entertain overtopping.
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I entertained Kyra Lewis Jr.
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I entertained Halliburton, but at the end of the day, I think the cell's ability to effect and, quite frankly, takeover at times at least on the college level on the defensive end of the floor makes him a good option here, gives every beat every MBA team needs.
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Wing defenders.
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And while a Koro is probably the best on ball stopper in the class, I think that sells the best team defender.
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So at him, I add his, ah, high level three point shooting.
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And, uh, if I'm a Knicks fan, I would be very happy with this.
00:21:31
I think it makes sense for the Tom Thibodeau, you know, stepping into their head coach their you know, he's big on defense.
00:21:37
I think you get a great defender right there.
00:21:40
So I think I'll definitely like to pick at nine.
00:21:46
We have, ah, the wizard with Ethan.
00:21:50
So a nine year was it there? I feel like I've Adam in every single mock draft, super interesting situation.
00:21:56
Um, obviously the future for John Wall is still uncertain.
00:22:01
We don't know how he's gonna look coming off basically two years of it of injuries and not playing, Bradley Beal really emerged this season as just one of the one of the better players in the NBA.
00:22:12
To be quite honest with you, I think this team lacks wings.
00:22:16
I think they lack a lot of three point shooting outside of Bradley Beal.
00:22:21
Um, and I think they just overall lack pieces in the front court.
00:22:24
I think Patrick Williams is a great start here.
00:22:27
Someone that has a great base to build upon from Florida State.
00:22:31
Honestly, would have been the seller Patrick Williams, who ever felt this spot here because I feel like they need more two way guys.
00:22:37
Patrick Williams, in my opinion, is tremendous option at that to waste spot, someone who can also place him four, maybe even some small ball five in the future.
00:22:47
Extremely versatile.
00:22:48
Defensively, Um, I think he has a great base to build upon, and it's a really solid upside pick for the Wizards here.
00:23:03
And 10. We have the sun's on this.
00:23:05
Sons are also this is my final, third most interesting team, so they have Aaron Banks, who played well for them to see the need for agent.
00:23:13
You have Dario Saric, who's afraid, or he's restricted Jevon Carter, who is restricted, commenced.
00:23:18
He has a team option.
00:23:20
Bialo has a team in camera pan, and as a team options world the signs they go a no in a bubble, as we saw.
00:23:26
Um, they have a bunch of young, valuable players.
00:23:32
What do you think they're missing? That could weaken that.
00:23:35
They me that they're missing that could fixing this draft right here to fix them to going for Because, I mean, they should have been a playoff team, honestly.
00:23:40
But the ships this and following their favorite.
00:23:41
So what do they need right now? So they're really interesting because it's assumed they need a point guard.
00:23:49
They're going to go point guard.
00:23:51
But you know, when you list off everybody who's coming on 100 contract, we really don't know what they need and, quite frankly, a power forward could be an option.
00:24:00
That being said, I still end up at Tyreese.
00:24:04
Albert, Um, Kyra Lewis.
00:24:06
I actually do have as my number three point guard, So I do on a big board, have Kyra ahead of Halliburton at this time.
00:24:14
But when you already have Devin Booker, I think a connecting piece and a awful spot up catching shooter is what would complement him better than Cairo's speed and driving kick ability.
00:24:26
So that would be a really tough call from A from Phoenix with those two on the board.
00:24:31
But I go with Halliburton.
00:24:32
Hayek, you defensive player.
00:24:34
I do worry about the physicality and lack thereof.
00:24:37
Physical strength I can't really create for himself as far as getting to the rim.
00:24:42
But he's a great connector.
00:24:43
I think he makes your best players better.
00:24:46
And if Booker wants to initiate the offense, I trust Halliburton to score on a catch than I do Kyra at this point.
00:24:54
So for the next couple years, that's why Halliburton is a pick for me.
00:24:57
A 10.
00:25:00
Yeah, I definitely like.
00:25:01
I like to fit their cause.
00:25:02
I know Devin Booker.
00:25:03
You've pretty much been, you know, initiating offers for them.
00:25:06
For the most part, they haven't really had a Ricky Rubio play where for them this season.
00:25:09
But you know, that's been the biggest.
00:25:11
They haven't had a good solid point guard, believes, and Steve nationalist.
00:25:14
So I definitely like to pick there.
00:25:16
I think that he fits will not agree.
00:25:18
You said he will make a Devin Booker.
00:25:19
Better also think he helps out of DeAndre and as well that pick and roll pick and pop out there will definitely benefit.
00:25:24
I am as well, and I understand a lot of people are already kind of looking past Ricky Rubio.
00:25:29
And on one hand, I understand that I also think Rubio could be a fantastic teacher for a guy like Halliburton, and I think that's a very being here.
00:25:38
Oklahoma City Seeing Chris, Paul Teach Our young guys had a play, you know, not to call Rubio a Chris Paul level teacher, but I think it is important if you're going to bring in a guard to run the show, to have somebody, you know, kind of a quarterback, a rookie quarterback in NFL.
00:25:53
Guys who attempt to learn under their predecessors for a year to tend to do really well because they have time to catch up to the speed of the game and learn.
00:26:01
And that's another boy that I see this fit in Phoenix.
00:26:05
Yeah, I agree on me.
00:26:06
Rubio has been the lead with 78 years.
00:26:08
He's been legal.
00:26:09
While you know this is this is Ah hardly to get into when you can stay in the NBA for 678 years.
00:26:15
That shows, you know, the type of player he is.
00:26:16
And he's definitely a good teacher for, Ah, Halliburton.
00:26:19
If he goes there at 11.
00:26:22
Thought Derek has three picks in a row.
00:26:24
Is San Antonio Spurs at 11? So if I'm San Antonio, there's one guy I have on my mind when I come into the draft and it's Patrick Williams.
00:26:33
But seeing as he is gone, I would be very pleased to get my power forward a year in Obi Topping.
00:26:42
I think we have.
00:26:43
San Antonio has the ball handlers.
00:26:45
They've gone guard a couple years in a row, and I actually really like the ball handlers and wings that they brought in the last couple of years.
00:26:51
Older.
00:26:52
His contract is coming up really soon.
00:26:54
They don't necessarily have a four or five for the future, like cemented into their program.
00:26:58
So I think top in here.
00:27:00
It makes the most sense to me.
00:27:04
They if they get topping that, they're gonna have a very interesting ah young roster going for you.
00:27:09
Have Lani Walker um Murray par tal topping killed in Johnson the martyr rose in a big inspiration to center, but they have a very, very interesting young team going for, like the future for them at 12 again, you have, Ah, the Kings.
00:27:31
Eso the king's heir, actually, kind of a difficult one for me.
00:27:35
There's a handful of guys that I like, nobody that I necessarily love.
00:27:42
Um, I would end up taking Aaron Naysmith.
00:27:48
I wouldn't think about I would think about Lewis as a backup quicker.
00:27:52
I mean, you put Lewis and Fox on the same team like that would just be so fun to watch.
00:27:55
Like you could push the pace like no other.
00:27:57
No matter what unit you had on the floor, you could push.
00:28:01
So I like that.
00:28:02
I also entertained a Chua here, but knee Smith not being confident that they re sign Bogdanovich, they're gonna need another shooter.
00:28:11
Healed is constantly rumored around.
00:28:14
I mean to Philly, like you can read every day a trade that takes buddy healed up to the Sixers.
00:28:19
So I think I think they need to go shooting here.
00:28:23
Um and that's that's why I take me Smith, the 12.
00:28:25
Not that nothing is like a dream fit, but I think is the most logical option at this spot.
00:28:34
I mean, it's what he really really considered.
00:28:36
He's one of the best shooters in the drive.
00:28:37
I definitely like the people like you said, But here he's been, he's like it is every week.
00:28:42
He's being rumored to being frustrated.
00:28:46
I do like that pick there.
00:28:47
At 13 we have New Orleans with Alec from New Orleans.
00:28:51
So your love is also in an interesting spot because of the amount of young assets that they actually have.
00:28:58
Um, the forward projected have at least Lonzo Brandon Ingram course I am Drew holiday and at least the short term.
00:29:06
For now, Um, so you're really looking for guys that are going to contribute right away and help them push their way, you know, into playoff contention, or at least be a perennial playoff teams for now.
00:29:20
Eso With that in mind, I would like them to pick up Ah City Bay as just another complimentary elementary wing that can stress floor really well is, you know, a little pull up and projects is at the very least, a slight plus two defensively, but we'll fit the mold of a three in the ring.
00:29:47
And when you when you can't really find when you have ah core established already, I think getting the best support players is what you what you should look to draft, um, and on my board to I would I would also be fine going billion.
00:30:02
Tilly eventually obviously wait for high right now based on where he's project affected, but no, or even Desmond base.
00:30:11
Is that gonna help them be, You know, stick in the playoffs and all that, So finding some of his versatile is bay and as useful would be would be huge for them.
00:30:23
I think it's interesting pick for them, because over the next two years they have pretty much all their wings of Fraser by the English phrase in the summer.
00:30:30
Next year, Drew Holiday J.
00:30:32
A Heretic and Josh Hart also offer agents next summer.
00:30:36
So if you know, there's been rumors that they might not re sign Brandon Ingram there.
00:30:40
But I need another wing to replace him as well as you know, JJ ready your holiday.
00:30:44
He's in the studies now.
00:30:45
I think he wants to be on a team where he can contain it.
00:30:47
went surprised if he walked away a year from now.
00:30:49
Same with JJ Red****.
00:30:50
This actually was the first year of J. J.
00:30:53
Really is career where he did not make the playoffs.
00:30:55
So I also think that there could be He also could leave in a year as well.
00:31:00
Yeah, and the last pick of the lot of you know, you go. You go ahead.
00:31:05
Yeah, with Brandon Ingram.
00:31:06
I mean, the way he's developing recently, I don't see why they don't extending unless, Yes, for a ludicrous amount of money.
00:31:14
Um, I mean, personally, not my favorite wing of the years.
00:31:19
A wing necking read with some outlier tools.
00:31:22
And, ah, you know, they would be more of a support option.
00:31:26
I don't think he's you know, guy you could say is are ringing in the future, But he's gonna be a good wing that you could put on a playoff, which is valued, uh, in burn.
00:31:36
Right, uh, for the Celtics.
00:31:39
My right. Okay.
00:31:41
And I think just looking at the board, I go James Wiseman here, here, and, you know, they really need a drop big that could protect the rim a little bit.
00:31:54
And you know, even just play finish.
00:31:57
His role would be very simple early on, which I think is huge for Wiseman because he needs to really catch up as faras, uh, feel part of the game.
00:32:07
Stop putting him in a simplified role early on.
00:32:10
It is going to be really beneficial.
00:32:12
Especially Team is well coached and excellent for player development as the Because the Celtics and I think with the core you have there, we won't need to ask him to be high use digital, which is what I'm worried about when teams look at it in the top five.
00:32:34
I think this is probably the value maximization for Wiseman, and I think having a guy that has it turned upside is it's just gonna be a steal for them.
00:32:44
At 14 they need size Bassi.
00:32:51
They really only have Wantem run true center That's over.
00:32:55
16 Enough in his cancer.
00:32:57
You know they have Robert William forgive him from minutes, but he's been hurt a lot.
00:33:00
You have ah, peace or thise.
00:33:02
He's a he's he solemnly small. Any size.
00:33:05
I think that bacon get Boston can get James Live in their 14.
00:33:08
That that could probably be the Philippa Drive.
00:33:11
Definitely in a lot of I agree.
00:33:13
Yeah, and while I don't think that that's realistic asses are what's going to occur, come in this scenario, I mean, that that's his absolute floor were be 14.
00:33:26
Just he could be really useful on that and in the role that I like, So yeah, good.
00:33:37
The next second I want to get into is the plant your flag segment.
00:33:40
So, Ethan be, unfortunately, 1st 14 teams, he only got for someone.
00:33:44
I let him go first.
00:33:46
If there's one guy in the draft, Ethan, that you would just for sure on that this is your guy.
00:33:51
You know, it might not be Alexa.
00:33:52
Guy might not be digs up.
00:33:53
This is your guy you think he's gonna be? He's gonna be successful in the NBA.
00:33:56
Who would that be? I would like to say poku, but there's still obviously some risk factor there.
00:34:03
I don't.
00:34:04
I look a bit I like the top 14 guys on my board.
00:34:08
I think the most purifier, you know, consistent guy.
00:34:12
You're gonna get seven of a cell in this draft.
00:34:14
I think I have absolutely no doubt that he's going to be, at least at the very very least, like you know, because in the n B, a role player with his skill set as Derek mentioned, probably one of the better team defenders that I mean, at least personally I've ever evaluated.
00:34:30
I think he's just a game record on the defensive side of the bowl.
00:34:34
I think he's going to bring shooting to a team.
00:34:37
Any team can use his skill set.
00:34:39
Any team can use his three and the ability that he's gonna bring into the MBA.
00:34:43
I'm super excited for this.
00:34:44
So I'm super excited to see how he also grows at the N B.
00:34:46
A level two, because even at the college level, we saw awesome, you know, very limited.
00:34:51
And obviously it's not something that's projected to completely translate, but, you know, pull up shooting off terrible shooting from him.
00:34:58
That really surprised me during his sop****re year s.
00:35:00
So I'm interested to see if he expands on that ad, maybe 10 or so pounds and go from there because I think he's just got a tremendous, tremendously high floor.
00:35:09
I think he's someone that can pretty much fit into any situation and and you kind of just build with him.
00:35:19
I'd like to sell a lot.
00:35:20
I think Derrick picked him with Knicks on Knicks fans.
00:35:23
They're not gonna be happy that they're not happy with anything.
00:35:25
I don't blame, but he's He's good and I think he fits with Tom.
00:35:29
Thibodeau wants to do with the I think he fits well.
00:35:31
Im him in r J.
00:35:32
Barrow fit well together.
00:35:34
I like him.
00:35:35
I mean, for the situation that they were given at eight.
00:35:37
If for sale is still there, I think that's probably best pick for them.
00:35:42
Um, the next person time ago to the day of who's the guy you wanna plant your flag on in this draft.
00:35:51
So the cell would be my first one.
00:35:54
I do definitely agree with anything on that second, I'm gonna go with a guy that I actually believe if I was the Timberwolves at number one, that I would take at one.
00:36:04
And it is Denny avea.
00:36:08
Um, I'm a sucker for point forwards.
00:36:12
69 athletic.
00:36:13
He's got the capability to do that.
00:36:15
He was relied upon just a little bit more this year as a pick and roll handler again.
00:36:20
Not great not elite in any sense of the word, but he has improved his three point shooting since Plate has resumed since all the covert stuff broke out.
00:36:32
I think he was like 34 35% from three, which again is improved from what he had shot the beginning of the season.
00:36:40
So the kids just loves basketball.
00:36:43
He eats, sleeps, breathes the game.
00:36:45
He's competitive, He wants to win all the time.
00:36:48
And it's just a fire competitors.
00:36:49
And there's enough Intel issues with some of the other guys at the top toe, where if I'm Minnesota on my Hey, look, you know I've got my center.
00:36:58
I don't want to clog the pain anymore.
00:37:01
I'm not going to go Lemelle a ball because I've got my point guard.
00:37:05
And quite frankly, the balls have an issue not being in a major market.
00:37:10
So I feel like they're gonna want out anyway.
00:37:12
If I have a hard time picking a guy in the top three, if I believe that after his rookie deal, he's gonna want out, you know, sometimes there players good enough for you, just take him anyway.
00:37:21
We'll figure it out later, but then he is a guy that I think he's got the fire to get better continue to improve and be an asset, at least in some form or fashion on both ends of the floor toe, where, because of a cell has already been spoken for.
00:37:35
I'm gonna go with Denny just for what it's worth, Teoh Derek Derek mentioned it.
00:37:41
I It was between Edwards and obvious for number one, and I think it's a great point about not wanting to call it the paint.
00:37:48
It honestly just came down to me for Edwards being five on obviate, being six on my board, on obviously going with that, I think this slightly higher upside play in Edwards.
00:37:58
But right there with you on Auggie, I think that's something that Timberwolf should seriously consider when they're when they're, you know, taking number one.
00:38:04
Obviously, it's not something to be talked about pretty much at all, but I would hope they definitely consider albeit one.
00:38:10
It was interesting because when we first did the mock over a Bab**** hoops, Matt and I kind of looked at each other and it was like, OK, everybody say and Edwards air ball here.
00:38:19
But what do you think I tried to get out of him? What do you think? And he tried to get out of me.
00:38:22
What? What do you think? And when he said top in and I said I'd be a right off the bat, it clicked like Okay, so we're in agreement that I don't think Edwards is a sure thing, and it comes down to We believe that Malik Beasley is the long term shooting guard there, and he had done really well in Denver.
00:38:42
I think he's one of the most slept on guys and lead, and I hate the word slept on or a problem like we just hype that up so much in social media but believe Beasley is really good, and I think Minnesota is gonna do it.
00:38:53
Everything is going to keep him.
00:38:54
I don't think they traded for him to be a rental.
00:38:57
I think if you have Beasley, who is already a young guy, you bring in Edwards again.
00:39:01
You can never have too many creators like that's Ah, that's a rich a rich teams problem at that point.
00:39:07
But that's why I think you know, you always have to entertain the idea that they're not gonna pick one of those two guys at the top.
00:39:16
So how do you guys think Anthony Edwards fits? So he go if he goes one and he goes And Timberwolves? How do you think he fits with the answer? Russell and Cat, cause you know, he does have issues playing off the ball and things like that.
00:39:28
So how do you think he fits with them? I think ultimately he would be fine, because again, he is the highest upside ceiling guy.
00:39:37
I believe in this entire class.
00:39:39
So if you draft based on upside, you just say he has been shall be the best player.
00:39:44
Probably one of only two guys in this class have superstar capabilities in the future.
00:39:49
We'll just figure it out.
00:39:51
I think he's talented enough off the ball.
00:39:53
The where I wouldn't necessarily worry about it. Fit.
00:39:56
I worry more about we already have our guy.
00:39:58
Then how does Edwards fit that? You are.
00:40:02
I mean, I personally, I don't I don't mind re No, I don't mind the fit at all in Minnesota because I think the biggest thing with Edwards last year and I continue to harp on it is that we wanted to see him in an expanded role off the ball.
00:40:15
He was always good when he's going to the basket.
00:40:16
He was always good when he was making a hard plant and going back to our cut when he was going to the rim.
00:40:21
I think that's something that he would have the ability to do playing alongside someone like D.
00:40:25
Angelo Russell evenly.
00:40:27
You know, me really easily, in that sense.
00:40:29
And Karl Anthony towns having him play off the ball.
00:40:32
And maybe not even his most expansive role yet would be good for his development.
00:40:38
That's something that you know what the Warriors picking out, too, If he was to fall there, I think that's something they should also explores.
00:40:44
Please, you know, potentially playing Edwards in that low usage role from Day one and letting him build in kind of a secondary slash tourist, the Treasury rule.
00:40:52
I think that would, you know, really help his career track as opposed to just being forced into the spotlight, forced into the primary role right away.
00:41:01
Yeah, I'm with you there.
00:41:02
Um, and one thing, I also think it's gonna be great for Edwards if he does end up going to Minnesota is you know, the spacing that they have is really gonna give him the chance toe Unlock that driving kid, Billy.
00:41:15
You know, this slashing that we saw so much of on, we wanted him to do so much more, you know, instead of settling for full up three.
00:41:23
So I think that their current roster construction you, you have, ah, have it plans to give him the right role that began his developed.
00:41:34
And, you know, he's not gonna be, you know, dribble in the clock, out shooting, pull up threes, because it's just not what they're gonna ask him to do.
00:41:43
So I think that's one of the best fits a lot again.
00:41:46
Along with the warriors assed faras.
00:41:49
Expect expectations for his room.
00:41:52
So I don't I think that could potentially be a hit if if he goes to either those two teams the top containing alleys, Who's your Who is the guy that you're planning your flag on? As far as a lot of you guys, I'm planning my flag and killing.
00:42:12
And Hayes, uh, Evie and the seller also two guys.
00:42:15
I would say I'm quite high on they're more on my board, respectfully, so searching for rather.
00:42:23
But Gillian Hayes, I mean potential to be a volume advantage creator, um, which I think it isn't talked about enough because of the way he manipulates, pick and roll his essential shot creation his, you know, hard in it.
00:42:41
I don't want to say hardness, but you know, is developing Step back says, You know, they have become a huge part in the league for if you look at our mold of volume advantage creators and in the heart and again not comparing them at all.
00:42:56
But you get a guy that's in that mold of can constantly create advantages, whether that's off the dribble shooting, whether that's, uh, manipulating, picking little, uh, and as well as being quite a good defender and, um, at least as a team defender and potential would grow up the ball, I think that is Ah, I think that's a clear argument for a number one guy.
00:43:22
If you can get someone that creates advantages as much as he does, that's as smart as he is.
00:43:28
And with his talent is a I think that's a really rare find, So I'm planning my flag on Killian heats.
00:43:40
Okay, so I'm gonna start with Berrick.
00:43:43
Who was the guy in this drive? It could be it could be out.
00:43:46
The lottery could be wherever that you're not so high.
00:43:49
Only compared to like, the consensus as to where the consensus would have him.
00:43:59
Um, it could be the consensus or could just be a guy.
00:44:01
You know that you just it could be consensus.
00:44:03
Yeah, we could do that.
00:44:08
I have a couple issues with Paul.
00:44:10
Read as I watched him a lot.
00:44:13
I worry about his shooting at the N B.
00:44:15
A level I do love his defense and his activity on that end of the floor.
00:44:19
That goes without question.
00:44:21
But I think his ability to shoot and honestly in the same mold that makes me think I'm gonna put Tyler Bay as well again.
00:44:29
The defense of I.
00:44:30
Q.
00:44:31
Is there like he's an awesome vertical athlete? Long arms, Probably one of the best behind the selling a koro.
00:44:37
You could you could put bay in that mold or in that kind of category of like next best defenders in the class.
00:44:44
But I just don't know about the shooting yet.
00:44:45
I know his percentages were good, but he only hit 13 threes and 31 games.
00:44:49
So I'm hesitant to say, yes, he'll be a shooter now if he does, you've got a fantastic play on your hands.
00:44:56
But I'm just not convinced yet that he can do that at a reliable level.
00:45:06
One thing about re, too.
00:45:07
I know he did play my rare writers.
00:45:08
I washed him, you know, over the course of the season, sometimes the body, it just ends up all over the place.
00:45:15
You know, sometimes it's not hitting.
00:45:16
The rim is hitting people players.
00:45:17
The backboard is in everything.
00:45:19
Sometimes he can make that shot.
00:45:21
But I know sometimes one needs when he's having one of those games.
00:45:24
He's not even hitting the rim, so that thing does.
00:45:26
That does concern me. It will.
00:45:28
Where I look past it a little bit is that his activity is generally always there.
00:45:33
So it's not that he's Lindsay in the corner.
00:45:37
Sure, I guess I'll take it and shoot.
00:45:38
And it's a bad miss, a lot of his bad Mrs where he became too aggressive in a moment where it's like, whoa, all you give that back to the point guard like there's no need to shoot that.
00:45:49
But again, the mentality I'm okay with where he wants to create, he wants to score.
00:45:53
So I'm OK with it, in that sense, Buying development going forward, you put that irrational confidence kind of level that people have talked about because he thinks he could make everything you could make every place, you know, that could be a double edged sword.
00:46:14
But it's really interesting to work with, um, which is part of why I kind of had a little higher on him.
00:46:21
Because I think you could really move that that confidence in tow.
00:46:26
You know, the rule that you project.
00:46:28
I don't think he's gonna be a great sugar.
00:46:30
I think he's gonna be just inactive defender.
00:46:32
That's gonna, you know, finish plays here and there.
00:46:36
That shot comes around again, really good player.
00:46:39
But I think it could because of his confidence, you know, even he might I think in my report I said his ego or his confidence is going to drive improvement.
00:46:52
At least that would happen in his.
00:46:55
And that's why I don't hold it against read, because it's one of the reasons I love Denny.
00:47:02
No.
00:47:04
Okay, So, Abbott, who was the guy in the lab? But you're also not I am.
00:47:16
I am a Sfar out on burning Kerry as anybody, I think.
00:47:20
And, ah, I am being a winning Pete on.
00:47:27
Indeed, I think it's got a M Eno tour.
00:47:30
I think you're just kind of empty production.
00:47:33
I don't see their defensive value.
00:47:35
Uh, intel wise I'm carrying says not the guy putting any stock and being a great presence on my team.
00:47:46
Um, this just not not much forming there.
00:47:49
I don't see him being a productive n b a brink if it when it matters.
00:47:57
Um, I'm pretty much all out on ah, earning Karius faras the guy I would not take.
00:48:08
You better be careful talking about a to rule for that of reporter from I don't know where he was from.
00:48:12
What the He covered the University of Minnesota.
00:48:14
He was ****ed. I think it was Ethan.
00:48:16
Yeah, I think he was.
00:48:18
He was ****ed. I figure it wasn't you.
00:48:21
Yeah.
00:48:22
I'll take that one. I still to this day.
00:48:25
Not sure why, but well, I guess we'll just world that one.
00:48:29
Um I think I'll clip.
00:48:32
Go ahead.
00:48:35
I'm gonna say I'll clip this now, Adam on Twitter and see what he says.
00:48:38
But go. Go ahead.
00:48:41
I was just gonna say I think I was actually really surprised.
00:48:44
I mean, I obviously Alex has displayed his thoughts on burning carry multiple times.
00:48:49
I thought he was gonna go overtopping with this one.
00:48:51
Um and I mean, personally, I know that overtopping is pretty easy.
00:48:57
Polarizing as a prospect.
00:48:59
There's and I know he will probably most likely end up going top 10 on draft night.
00:49:04
Um, and I get the appeal with topping as well, at least for me, I haven't ranked 20 for that reason.
00:49:13
I just I severely worry about him defensively at the N B.
00:49:16
A level I worry that, you know, topping with the usage that he had at Dayton in the perfect offensive set for him and the perfect offensive scheme.
00:49:26
He excelled offensively.
00:49:27
He was an awesome offensive player.
00:49:30
I don't think he's going to have that same opportunity at that same usage level to excel in the MBA in the MBA, and for that reason, his deficiencies, you know, movement deficiencies.
00:49:40
Defensively, I have no idea where to put him on the floor, whether to put him as a drop five.
00:49:45
I absolutely would not.
00:49:46
Or whether you just hide him somewhere on the court as a four.
00:49:49
That never really seems to work out.
00:49:51
Well, I think his defensive negatives are gonna outweigh.
00:49:54
Is offensive positives that he brings and he's gonna be an overall negative player on the basketball court.
00:49:59
That's why I really worry about with O p Topping.
00:50:01
Obviously, I'd love to be wrong on because he's extremely fun to watch such an athletic beast, especially just as a lob there.
00:50:09
It probably the best in the class.
00:50:11
But his movement really, really, really worries me.
00:50:14
Also being you know, one of the older guys in this class is well, doesn't help eso I worry about top in.
00:50:20
He's my guy that I say I'm most out on compared to consensus.
00:50:26
Yeah, I need Yeah, I wrote a reporter.
00:50:30
Go ahead and going, Alex, Obviously, I'm I'm with you even using the thirties on my board just because, you know, again, I think perfect offensive scheme.
00:50:39
Um, but talking about how how many unique things he has that create advantages so little volume three point shooting A Zara's a pick and pop big creates, you know, doesn't create many advantages, but it creates a couple.
00:50:55
His vertical spacing creates a couple as well, if you use it in the lock, target or interior guy.
00:51:00
Her role, man.
00:51:02
All right.
00:51:03
Uh, I mean, post contribution might be your only other one, but you add those three things as his primary value on it.
00:51:15
A lot of passing is also another one where you keep beat advantages, but a lot of that out of doubles do What you won't see is, um, uh, paired with his defensive negatives.
00:51:26
I just don't think who gives teams as much as as much of an advantage is that some of the other bigs, uh, just the players in general in this class, I think think I'm gonna be about you and he will be productive in his own sense.
00:51:42
But I I'm not in on overtopping.
00:51:45
There's a lottery talent just cause yeah, defensively, it's it's gonna do not forget.
00:51:53
You might be unplayable in the playoffs as faras uh, you, you know, at least a very least in big moments.
00:52:01
But yeah, with even there completely.
00:52:08
One of my last reports idea was on him and I was talking actually, our he would just say, You say you talked about the recent just go relook at it.
00:52:17
Look at him, especially pick and pop and I are re washed it.
00:52:21
I've got a good lord, my teams gonna pick and pop the hell out of him because he just I don't I don't know if he just doesn't get it or he just doesn't wanna do it because it's just the man he supposed to switch on his garden just so open areas play after play after play.
00:52:39
And I didn't like Alex said, There's gonna be times when the playoff you just can't plan like there's absolutely no way you can plan because they're gonna just pick and pop the hell out of them.
00:52:47
He does some good things.
00:52:48
Well, he's super athletic.
00:52:49
He does pass the ball well, but the n B a novel about tweener tweener fourth and force that can shoot So he's not gonna be prepared.
00:52:57
Are, you know gonna do is the fifth of farmers correctly.
00:52:59
You just simply can't blame, especially in the playoffs.
00:53:03
That's the biggest thing is like I know we've had even Derek, Alex and I on one of our recent podcasts as well, probably went into 5 to 10 minutes just talking about top in this.
00:53:14
Well, I know derricks, I think, a bit higher than topping on Alex and I, uh, and the reasons for that.
00:53:21
But the defense's like it is concerning and the term athletic with him.
00:53:27
It doesn't account for lateral quickness, and that's where that's where I think he's going to get in trouble.
00:53:35
I actually I'm not really worried about him scoring a whole lot again, based, all based on fit and scheme.
00:53:41
Like you've said, if any team has a stretch big at that point, I think topping becomes valuable.
00:53:48
I would rather have a stretch big and then topping as my four, who can either slash catch, loves or step out and hit a three.
00:53:55
But if you have a center who wants to play in the post a lot, I don't want top and creating from the outside in like that.
00:54:01
That wouldn't make much sense.
00:54:02
It'll so a towns Yokich that that's where I see top and I'm like OK, that can work Oh, yeah, it's It's the lateral quickness on defense where it's going to become problematic.
00:54:16
And I really don't think there's something you can't disagree with that you can't find.
00:54:19
It is what it is if you watch the games.
00:54:21
So I do worry about that, for sure.
00:54:23
I'm worried about it and drop comfort.
00:54:26
I feel like I didn't move laterally moving.
00:54:30
Most certainly an issue.
00:54:33
Are you think vertically higher number, you know, forwards and backwards.
00:54:39
I also don't think so. Dayton.
00:54:41
So Dayton, Based on conversations I had never really heart with him the importance of becoming flexible.
00:54:49
It's like he has a heart is a difficult time getting all the way down on his stance.
00:54:52
He's not really flexible at the knees and hips, kind of stiff, so they didn't was went with approach again.
00:54:58
Based on what I've been told, that if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
00:55:02
We're just gonna keep doing what we're doing because it's working and we're winning and scoring out of high at a increasingly high rate.
00:55:09
I think an MBA team will be able to get a little bit more out of him because it's Hey, this is your job now and we're We've invested a lot of money.
00:55:18
We're going to make sure that your lower body is ready.
00:55:21
And him and Jalen Smith are two guys that I think once they get into the crows that they're lower body concerns will go away at least a little, Not vastly.
00:55:33
I'm concerned with both of their lower bodies, but I think we'll be able to get a little bit more flexibility and hopeful little more lateral quickness.
00:55:40
But I mean, if we saw this much improvement, I think it would look drastic.
00:55:44
And in the film Yeah, I think I think that's definitely going to be focused.
00:55:49
Number one are reading standpoint for both Jalen.
00:55:52
Nothing on the toppings on.
00:55:55
I spoke with my twin brother.
00:55:57
Uh, the musicology guy spoke with his professor, gave in the whole case study on basic cream.
00:56:05
The reason you guys, I wanted to get more expert opinions that no more violent and they're like, we're gonna be good.
00:56:18
And I think you look at this speed jump in the NBA like I don't see it.
00:56:24
I think it would even out, I should say Well, as faras staying in negative because if you increased in, you know, just a little bit, marginally.
00:56:36
He would look better in college, of course.
00:56:37
But, I mean, he got exposed all across the board defensively college, And you add on the speed of the MBA and the spacing, Uh, it's gonna be accurately necessary for you even, you know, toe just max out his ladder of mobility as much as possible and just to keep him on the floor, because I think, you know, if he doesn't is gonna be just that much more profound.
00:57:04
And I can't ever see it being even more than a slight negative.
00:57:11
Uh, it's just way too concerning for me.
00:57:13
Honestly, I think what worries me, too.
00:57:16
On top of that is just like it's.
00:57:19
I think it's an entirely different conversation we're having if he's 2 to 3 years years younger, like maybe Jaylin Smith.
00:57:25
But, I mean, this is guy that I think 23 years old, going into the draft.
00:57:29
So there's not that, you know, extreme room to grow in these next few years that are so crucial for many prospects.
00:57:36
But I think Derrick is right in that if you even see a little bit of an improvement.
00:57:40
A supposed to him not moving like there's like a piano on his back or something like then he's going to be, I think, a lot more valuable, a lot more playable, in my opinion, just to, you know, make a few minor tweaks, a few minor improvements to his latter mobility to I think the biggest thing you should be focusing on is his backpedaling ability as well, because I think playing him as it dropped five would be, ah, lot more interesting with his length with his vertical leaping ability.
00:58:11
If he's able to improve his as someone who can you consistently backpedal without looking like he's gonna fall over, I think that's huge for him.
00:58:17
So so did I have a question for you? Because I like Topping as well.
00:58:26
Do you think that? I mean, I guess it wouldn't be a unique robot.
00:58:28
Do you think he could create a role for himself similar to Aaron Gordon? No.
00:58:33
And go to move a little bit more fluid than he does, But how do you think that he could create a role for himself? Mean he's super athletic, but if he's able to develop his three point shot.
00:58:41
That could be a big plus for a team that doesn't pick him.
00:58:46
I think you're looking more John Collins than you are Aaron Gordon.
00:58:50
I think because they're both Bernath laconically in their lower body, I think are more significantly gifted than talking.
00:58:56
I think that both are, um, but I mean, I think they can carve out a role again.
00:59:01
It's going to be based on what you're asked.
00:59:03
I don't think he's going to car about anything.
00:59:06
I think that a team in a system is going to have to have a place as fits.
00:59:13
Well, um, and that's that's why you know, Atlanta doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me now that they also have capella and call.
00:59:21
It is like I don't see him really doing anything that creating a rope for himself differently than what they're already doing.
00:59:28
Um, I don't know.
00:59:29
I think it's just gonna be based on plug and play him, but I think you'll be able to stretch.
00:59:33
I think you'll be able to shoot a average like a fine rate where he's not getting sagged off of all the time.
00:59:41
But you're also not worried about him.
00:59:42
You know, hitting multiple a game.
00:59:44
So I just I want to see him next to a stretch big where he can kind of on the pain as faras cuts and being a lot of target there on offense, huh? And crawl.
00:59:56
And ah, um, my last segment Forget you guys.
00:59:59
I think I want I want to give you three players that I just find it very interesting to me.
01:00:04
And I want to get you guys.
01:00:05
It stops on them.
01:00:06
I know this is one of theirs, guys, but ah, Kyra loose.
01:00:14
If you put Kyra Lewis Jr in a Kentucky jersey this year, he's going in the top five, and people are calling him to your in box.
01:00:22
Um, the speed is without question, one of the best live dribble pastors in the class.
01:00:28
He's already young either any direction, either hand.
01:00:33
His shooting percentages were great, so that's gonna have to improve.
01:00:35
And again with him, it is an upside play rather than what is going to give you in the first couple of years with what he already has.
01:00:43
So I really like him just because of the speed his speed on defense is actually good as well.
01:00:48
It can stay in front of people.
01:00:49
He stunts with accuracy.
01:00:51
He can get his lateral quickness and get in front of you on drives.
01:00:54
So I don't necessarily think he has superstar potential.
01:00:57
I don't think he's ever gonna be that kind of scorer.
01:01:00
But I think with his speed and ability to create and past open teammates, um, and even in tight windows, I feel like he's the guy who can provide better value for somebody.
01:01:10
Then where he's being mocked in the twenties by a lot of people.
01:01:17
Yeah, I mean, this is I love Carl Lewis. I haven't met seven.
01:01:22
I think the big and I didn't know if that was your about to agree with me or, you know, I thought I was so good.
01:01:30
I saw you do this.
01:01:31
I was like, Man, he's either loving this or he dies.
01:01:34
I love the control.
01:01:35
I love the Kentucky Common Cause.
01:01:36
I completely agree with you that it was hilarious and it's it's totally true as well.
01:01:40
And you're like, Oh my God, it's still 19 years old and he's played, you know.
01:01:43
Now, two years of college basketball.
01:01:46
The biggest thing I noticed from watching, you know, as much college room and stuff that I watched over quarantine to then watching the MBA.
01:01:53
It always strikes me.
01:01:54
How much faster the end game is Cairo player in this draft quick twitch guy in this draft, I I just I would love to see, even with even more spacing at an M B, A level coming off a pick and roll with his vision with his driving ability.
01:02:08
If he's able to improve from the three point line like I think he will over the next few years, just based off his free throw percentage is touch the volume that he was shooting in college.
01:02:18
I think his eventual floor is as a really, really high level six men in a few years.
01:02:23
I think he needs to watch Dennis.
01:02:25
He needs to watch tennis shooter, If you If you have seen any of this.
01:02:28
Oklahoma City, Houston.
01:02:29
Siri's the last two games that that we want trigger.
01:02:32
I sewed everybody on that Houston defense, and he was just straight up too fast.
01:02:37
He was too fast with his first step, any smaller than all of them But he gets to the Rams creative and again he can pass out of it.
01:02:44
He's also shooting a career high 38% from three.
01:02:47
So two heathens point like if if Kyra can get this shooting down, even to a league out with, let's say, Let's say Kyra shoots 35 36% from three.
01:02:57
You have.
01:02:58
You can't just give him all the room in the world, and then he's going by you.
01:03:01
If I'm him, I'm watching all the shooter.
01:03:03
Yes, the Aaron Fox.
01:03:04
But I'm watching all the shooter film I could get my hands on.
01:03:08
Yeah, Yeah.
01:03:10
I, uh you know, I was talking about advantage Creation.
01:03:14
Uh, higher speed is, you know, one of the best tools for that class point being a dentist shooter As far as the guy that uses that effectively ended.
01:03:27
The current crew in high value situations are in high stakes situations.
01:03:32
Rather, Um, so I think that half is 100% there for in the car.
01:03:38
About I in fact rule either is a six manners.
01:03:41
You know, you're starting initiator.
01:03:43
Um, his passing all again.
01:03:45
I don't think his passing is on the same level was a guy like haze or off the idea of all.
01:03:53
But I think it's in that second tier firmly as far as a guy that can create out of his, uh, create out of drives and pass out effectively.
01:04:04
So I think he's good enough or he's gonna create enough advantages.
01:04:08
Really be valuable.
01:04:13
Yeah, I like the dinner.
01:04:14
Schroeder compares him like he was watching the game of the day.
01:04:16
You just like he said, he was just too fair who they put on Covington hard.
01:04:20
And he's play better defense, whatever that means.
01:04:22
But they're just No.
01:04:23
One.
01:04:24
They could put in front of shoulder and some of the big would help.
01:04:26
He kicks it out to the corner to a shay.
01:04:28
Yeah, they put Covington and Green on him.
01:04:30
Who arguably the best defenders.
01:04:33
A long bit.
01:04:35
And it was It was a step and a half every single time.
01:04:40
You hungry? Um, the second I want to get into was Ah, RJ Hampton.
01:04:47
I know, uh, dig like this Texas guy as well.
01:04:50
So what do you guys think about him all the way? I'll go first.
01:04:57
Um, I'm I'm still a little out on R J.
01:05:01
Ah, there's a lot of, you know, Russian marks there.
01:05:04
I think as far as advantage creation again, you have a guy that has the speed and the burst as well as the finishing, potentially be a slashing creator.
01:05:15
I think, uh, I think he really needs to work on filling out and, um, just developing his overall impact.
01:05:23
But he's coming is that he's not a guy I've watched a ton off, but I like his energy.
01:05:31
I like I like his effort.
01:05:33
I like to.
01:05:35
He is a project.
01:05:37
I think it's gonna be a long road.
01:05:41
Yeah, high impact guy.
01:05:43
He's He's a role player right now, But there's upside.
01:05:46
Is there to be more than that? Yeah, I think the biggest thing with Hampton from you know, watching the majority of his MBL games is just being becoming respectable enough from behind the three point line to make someone take a step over that screen.
01:06:03
I think that will expand his offensive game so much more because he's a tremendous has tremendous projections as a finisher at the N B A level with his athleticism with his burst with his first step.
01:06:13
I love, you know, putting him in kind of a pick and rule said, if he's able to become more proficient from outside, I think that's one of his biggest swing skills as well.
01:06:23
As Alex said, adding to his frame a little bit because he has, you know, along that the tools to become a really solid defender as well.
01:06:31
Just with, you know, with his size solid positional sized that I think 6465 and you know foot speed, I think he could be a really solid perimeter defender at the next level.
01:06:41
He gets his hands on a lot of balls, gets in the passing lanes really well.
01:06:45
Eso he's someone again.
01:06:46
I kind of when I'm when I'm making my big boards.
01:06:48
He's literally one of the few guys.
01:06:50
I still have no idea where to rank, because I feel like I'm putting him where it's you low where I have about 21.
01:06:56
But again, he's someone that I struggled then also moving out because there's not a whole lot that I absolutely love with, you know, with his skill set, I think Hampton's a guy you could see go anywhere from late lottery too early to mid twenties, kind of depending on how much teams, by his swing skills, ability to shoot at the next level.
01:07:23
But again, the motor is there and, you know, combo guard.
01:07:27
The thing you have to be, I think aware with was with Hampton is I don't think he's going to be a contributor for quite some time, at least on a high level or successful playoff team.
01:07:39
So if you're a guy, if you're a team or organization who needs somebody to come in and be effective in the first two years, I think you stay away from Hampton altogether.
01:07:47
But if your team that's already full of youth, maybe already rebuilding or a team like New Orleans, where we're still kind of young and rebuilding, But we have tools that we can compete in your future if we want to.
01:08:00
Those are the kind of fits that makes sense to me.
01:08:07
And lastly, is Ah, Leandro Baldomero.
01:08:11
I'm I really, really, really like this guy.
01:08:13
He just plays with the slatted.
01:08:15
I think that everyone can just buy into what do you Ah, some of start with Alex? What do you think about tomorrow? This is what? But there's got that.
01:08:29
This is what I got a long piece up on him on Bab****.
01:08:34
Oops.
01:08:35
I love bone marrow.
01:08:36
I'm gonna let Alex go first.
01:08:38
But, Tobias, you couldn't not have picked three better guys for me to talk about.
01:08:42
I love this segment.
01:08:43
Is my favorite so far.
01:08:44
A big fan.
01:08:46
Yeah, I like Romero a lot.
01:08:49
You know, he's one of the biggest.
01:08:51
If he shoots guys, I think there's there's reason to believe that you will be able to at least the league average rate.
01:08:58
The confidence is there at times.
01:09:01
Um, and the volume is there as faras Project Herbal.
01:09:04
But, um, you know, love his positional sizes of 67 point guard beckon.
01:09:10
He's super creative off live dribbles.
01:09:13
Talk about advantage, creation and pick and roll.
01:09:16
Your probably one the best as far as a guy that's going to create consistent ones, not on a killing his level of my thinking, but still in that second tier with Cairo's faras advantage creators.
01:09:28
Um, love is the defense.
01:09:30
I think the potential versatility you have there in 67 guardians is just awesome, and the effort is there, too, so I really like tomorrow is essential impact to a guard.
01:09:45
Uh, Derek, if you want delivery on his contract situation, Yes, so is so.
01:09:54
He did.
01:09:55
He did sign an extension.
01:09:57
It still has an MBA out clothes in it.
01:10:00
So if he is drafted based on our conversations, we haven't been cleared to give ranges and numbers from the agency, but I will just say earlier is better.
01:10:10
So I would have my guess is that if someone does want him to come over early, maybe even stash, But if somebody really wants him in the organization, I feel like you almost kind of have to pick him before 20.
01:10:21
Which is this.
01:10:23
It's a reach to me again.
01:10:25
Like, if I'm Boston and I have that 14th pick man, I might just do it.
01:10:30
I might do it because I don't need a guy right now.
01:10:32
I can afford to stash somebody.
01:10:33
I can afford to wait and have him come over later.
01:10:36
Um, and if it's a guy, I'm really convinced that I wanted my team and again, irrational confidence tries to fit, passes it into windows, that a lot of time that they're just not even there.
01:10:46
And sometimes he finds it.
01:10:48
Sometimes the ball makes it through in your life.
01:10:49
How did he make that pass? Other times you think Gomera, what you doing, man? Like that was a stupid past.
01:10:54
Don't try that next time.
01:10:55
But he's clever. He's crafty.
01:10:57
Um, I mean, you trust himself, so I really like it.
01:11:00
But contract wise, I think earlier would be better for him.
01:11:03
But there is an MBA out If someone were to take him, I really like bone marrow as well.
01:11:10
He's someone that's ranks 17th, and obviously he's the, uh he's derricks.
01:11:15
Poku, too, to my actual poku.
01:11:18
So we've had our battles about him.
01:11:19
But I think you know, if you do have the opportunity to pick him in the top 20 you should absolutely pull the trigger.
01:11:25
This is a guy that's gonna not only as you guys mentioned be a tremendous initiator playmaker at 67 at the point guard spot, which is what he's already doing in Barcelona right now, which is pretty exceptional for you know, just how young he is, but just a tenacious on ball defender picks up guys from full court.
01:11:43
I love his intensity on the perimeter.
01:11:46
I think that's something that's going to translate to the n B a level, even though he's not the most, you know, outstanding outstandingly athletic guy in the entire world.
01:11:54
If the shot does come around, which is what I'm still a little bit worried about, which is still what kind of holds me out of the lottery on ball tomorrow, then you're getting a really, really interesting prospect here.
01:12:05
You got a guy super super interesting at his size with his playmaking ability in his defense.
01:12:16
I'm gonna give you guys one last guy.
01:12:17
I've been hearing a lot about him, especially me.
01:12:19
Being from Houston is Ah, Nate hitting.
01:12:22
People have been telling me the last couple of months.
01:12:23
Tobias, you really got to start talking about Native and you've got to start talking about him.
01:12:27
Um, I watched this tape.
01:12:30
I'm I think he's goody rebounding off the ball.
01:12:31
He can really shoot. He's a big guard.
01:12:33
65 to 10.
01:12:34
What do you guys have you guys done any instance of research about him, and if so, what do you guys think about him? I wrote with Father Ethan yesterday, and he's probably one of my one of my favorite guys in this class.
01:12:52
And it's just as the draft process has gone on, especially just talking about second round guys as the drug bosses gone.
01:12:59
We've seen more of him on camera, breaking down film and stuff like that.
01:13:02
I think he did one with PBC as well.
01:13:03
That was just exceptional.
01:13:05
I love his mindset.
01:13:08
I love him off the court.
01:13:10
I think this is a guy you like, a 65 guy that averaged about nine rebounds per game this year.
01:13:15
A Houston. He just makes winning plays.
01:13:17
Hey, gets rebounds that he shouldn't get he I think he makes Plates defensively that he shouldn't make, but he kind of just You can just makes it happen.
01:13:25
And that's just the, you know, the winning the winning instincts with inside him.
01:13:29
Aside from that, you're getting a guy.
01:13:31
If you dropped in two men is an exceptional team defender, in my opinion, with room to grow on the Bolas.
01:13:37
Well, um, I think him as a three point shooter, he's someone that you can you can kind of stick in certain places and maybe rely on you know, instantly to knock down a few threes per game.
01:13:47
He's got room to grow their I think he was around 39% on four attempts per game this year.
01:13:52
Uh, I'm excited to see if he does get drafted.
01:13:55
I thought it was, frankly, just ridiculous that he wasn't invited to the N B A combine.
01:14:00
I believe he wasn't one of the top 100 guys.
01:14:02
I thought, Uh, and so I'm really interested to see if he's able to go in the second round.
01:14:12
Yeah, I think a Sfar, the guy that provides defensive effort, makes winning plays, is a rebounder, uh, and just really has potential DEA three, and you get a ZA guard.
01:14:26
I think there's no reason you don't take a shot it in second round, especially.
01:14:32
Yeah, he's fascinating because I love anybody with a motor who's willing to do the dirty work for you, and that's what you're gonna get in him.
01:14:41
Get all the rebounds, offense and defense.
01:14:44
Decent pastor.
01:14:45
I just worry about how he contributes on the offensive end.
01:14:49
You know, it's Alex's point earlier, kind about topping, where you lay out his strengths and if these air his highest, you know these are the biggest strengthen.
01:14:57
Maybe I don't know what I can get out of you on this end of the floor and with Kittens game, I'm not totally sure what you get on offense.
01:15:03
So as much as I love everything else, you know, there are hesitations about how high I would pick him of this in our conversations.
01:15:11
There are some picks in the second round that makes sense.
01:15:13
Like I think Atlanta at 50 would make a lot of sense.
01:15:17
You could run lineups where you put him next to Trey and maybe get some somebody opposite of him who isn't going to stop the ball on offense but can help mask Young a little bit on the defensive end.
01:15:27
I think Golden State, at 48 I think the Clippers of 57 even I think they would be willing to take a shot on a guy like him is just gonna take a certain kind of role.
01:15:36
Because if you have somebody on the board who maybe has his issues but isn't high upside offensive guy, can you justify your organization taking him and that's kind of the discussion you have to have, but It wouldn't shock me if if we ended up seeing him picked kind of in that 50 to 60 45 to 60 maybe range in the draft.
01:15:59
Okay, well, I want to thank all you guys for coming on my podcast today.
01:16:02
And make sure you go check out Alex's new article on new scouting report on Devin Facil.
01:16:07
I want to say congratulations.
01:16:08
Gin toe mandate for his new promotion with the Bab**** hoops.
01:16:13
You also can see him on NBC's blind spot playing Roman.
01:16:16
I think it comes on Tuesday and Wednesday night is one of my favorite shows.
01:16:20
And then you can also also check out the things prospect.
01:16:25
Odd is, Well, if you get African on my show today.
01:16:28
Thank you.
01:16:29
I appreciate it.
01:16:30
Thanks for having us, man.
01:16:32
We always appreciate it.
01:16:34
Great.
01:16:35
Coming off problem. You guys be safe out there.
01:16:37
Alright, guys.
01:16:38
Thank you.

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