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We come to you on a sun soaked Thursday afternoon taking a look.
Not necessarily back at the Celtics game from last night, where, as we know, the Nets struggled in the return from rest slash injury for Jared Allen, Joe Harris and, of course, Caris Levert against the Boston Celtics.
Now listen, we reflect back just a day prior when they pulled off a massive upset against the Milwaukee Bucks.
Obviously, some of those stars, including the honest sitting in the second half but did hold a six or eight point lead there at halftime.
So certainly with those starters in there, the Nets absence of any of their starters were able to do some damage there and certainly showed that it's possible, regardless of what it says on paper toe, work the system and go ahead and pull off an upset like that.
While we don't wanna put too much stock in that wind, we certainly don't put too much stock in the loss, either.
In all things being considered with a Z, exciting as it's been down the bubble for for the N B A.
Overall There are teams that are kind of in this unfortunately and big US state, where, in the case of the Brooklyn Nets, you're you're working through the motions here.
We all know that, right? We all know about the players they don't have, and we certainly know about some of the replacement players they're trying to utilize.
But one of the things we will touch on recording later today on the we got in its podcast.
So Degory and myself will dive in a little bit deeper on some of the players that have certainly been able to make an impact along the way.
Specifically, we'll look at that bucks game, uh, again.
The Boston Celtics game was a bit of a throwaway, just in terms off the talent level in what the expectations are.
And even though they went into that one with an opportunity to officially lock up their playoff spot, that's in my mind a foregone conclusion.
For the most part now, the interesting thing for me, though, is Aziz.
We know back on that Bucks game it was one TLC for the Brooklyn.
Next did a lot of the heavy lifting in that game, and it just got me thinking about long term right? And that's so much of what these conversations can be about right now, when we're thinking about how is this roster going toe? Look, next season we highlighted on the last episode of the podcast.
I've talked about it at nauseum across the board in a lot of ways that that Joe Harris needs to be brought back.
And he's solidifying himself nicely on not just doing it from the outside, but as we've seen in absence of the full complement of players, which will allow for him to have some of that perimeter shooting.
He's also made it a point to showcase the fact that he can get it at the basket, take eyes off the dribble on occasion and add another element.
Tours reference were so and you just fate.
A player like him being back.
There's not a lot of guys.
Even when you take a look at a Spencer Dinwiddie, you know, trade value up or down.
Probably higher, relatively speaking, after a season where he got into that starting line up again with Kyrie out and showcases carry the load, maybe one of the lesser teams in the league looks at that and says, Hey, we could take a jump at that position and make ourselves from We're competitive on a game to game basis.
But the question mark really becomes about what you're willing to pay a player like that and how the league's gonna value that position.
And in that dollar amount, when you think about maybe some adjustments being made post a bubble in the playoffs and where revenue looks on how the league needs to adjust to a comedy for that.
So even a player like that probably finds himself right back with the Brooklyn Nets nest next year.
So you're starting to get this sense of more holding Pat going into next year than expecting or anticipating changes.
And to that end, when we look again over a T L C, you think about the idea that this is a player who came in the league back in 2016 17 with the Philadelphia 76 ers started 19 games that rookie season 69 games played overall gave you 17 minutes average 40% from the field, only 31% from beyond the arc, and then also kicked in a couple of rebounds and assists per game to go along with it.
You move through the immediately the following season.
Cut out all the cut out from the starting rotation.
In 52 games, just seven starts, 2018 19 ends up with the Bulls.
29 games and six starts.
21 games with one start for O. K.
Now, even in O. K.
Just last year, you're talking about the only shot 30% from the field.
Very limited opportunities there.
Really? That's kind of the outlier, I would say in terms of looking over his stat lines where you think everywhere else that he went, he was getting somewhere in the range of about two, two shots made on 5 to 6 attempts per game.
Anywhere in that in that range and then from three point territory.
You know, about one round that area made on roughly 2 to 3, and if the season and say even spite of not having the full complement of players and old times, here's a guy that played in 43 games, just the one start for Brooklyn, but averaged 42% from the field again only a little over two for every five plus attempts, but then, from beyond the arc, knocking down just over one out of every three.
So 37 a half percent over the course of the season and that being his highest percentage that we've ever seen a knockdown from the field relative to the years prior, where you saw 33 33 a half percent over the course of 27 2018.
So those seasons really didn't give you a sample size that would indicate that you're going tohave someone who can knock down from the perimeter.
We've seen bad games from him over the course of time with the Brooklyn Nets, but specifically this Milwaukee Bucks game give you everything that you could have asked for in terms of quality shooting from the perimeter and really carrying a bit of the load for Brooklyn.
And by the way, this is also a player is going out of position here over the course of the bubble, playing as smaller size, playing up positional e across the board, what you like about it in terms of the center of the Bucks game, but overall for him, is that you could be talking about a player that potentially you're going to be able to look at.
And when you go over into the depth chart for the Brooklyn Nets, you think about going into next year.
Honestly, I look at the value of a T. L.
C at the guard position.
I thought the about the point guard to talk about shooting guard, but I'd rather sit there and say I have a collection of Kyrie, Irving, Spencer, Dinwiddie, Caris, Levert and T L. C.
As opposed to what she owes it.
We know that Tyler Johnson, I don't think is long for this team on.
Then you talk about you do have a guy like Garrett Temple in the mix there as well, but he can flex up into that into that small forward position also.
So there's a case to be made here.
The TLC offers you the best compliment from a depth perspective to what you're going tohave going into next year.
The other thing is that even if it's not with the Brooklyn Nets, he's certainly making a case for himself somewhere around the league.
But end of the day is, is he else.
He could give you that kind of performance in a game in and game out basis now.
But it's important to have that toe have that understanding that this is a player who can give you those type of minutes on occasion, not too similar late in that game, when you saw the way that Garrett Temple was able to use a little bit of veteran leadership and experience, knocked out a couple of key shots there and really kind of settled down that team to make sure that you were able to pull out would have been once you have that lean, you're carrying it through the 1st 3.
5 plus quarters, it would have been disappointing to not win that game in spite of the fact that going into it it was a very relatively low expectations there, but it.
But again, I don't know if you can expect TLC to repeat this 25 years old now, so he did get extended out.
I believe through next season with Brooklyn, so we'll have him under under contract and certainly an opportunity there for him to showcase himself next year.
But all of a sudden, you go from thinking about this idea of Do you need to get 1/3 big star there? And I'm not saying that this game of loans will move the needle.
But what you are seeing over this aching restart is that you have some quality players that have been on this roster for a long time in liver in Allen in Joe Harris.
And then you think about players like this who aren't dissimilar to some of those diamonds in the rough right reclamation projects.
This could be year one of TLC really blossoming in the N b A.
In the Nets organization like a Joe Harris has done like we've seen from Caris Levert over the last season.
Plus, so hanging on to a guy like this and seeing where he grows is going to give you familiarity and continuity on this roster going into next year. When you have K d.
When you have Kyrie now we're not gonna get we're not gonna overstate it, but average average 70 team points over 17 minutes per game this past season.
There's value there.
The other issue that I think you run into, not which is TLC with a lot of these guys.
Why someone like, say, Ah Garrett Temple has a higher upside, potentially in returning next year, even though maybe you can swap it out like for like, for some of these three and D guys that are going to be available.
It's the defense, right? And that's that's more than anything what you need to have in order to be a complementary piece on this roster, but TLC high effort, high energy You're never going to regard him as being, ah, lock down defender.
The relative dispenser Damewood here relative to even Kyrie Irving that again offers you more value than what you currently have in some, in some cases on top of which guy like she owes a regards of effort or energy, is always going to be that this advantage, given the height.
So he's always gonna get lost in the shuffle with those screens up.
But the up of the top of the key, he's always going to get a little bit caught behind on some of the switches, and when you get him into the switch you're talking about, if you get him off from a point guard to a shooting guard, over to a forward.
Even in some of these switch opportunities, it basically becomes shooting practice for the opposition.
So again that balls along the game broadcast it doesn't hurt that I get to use the TLC from three right.
The play calling is a factor here as well, so we wanted to check in and kind of note that.
And we've talked about this on the podcast before.
One of the great values of this restart is where you can see ah, player like rodeo unscrew roots.
Can he? Can you just find that rhythm from beyond the arc again? Can you get used to just pulling the trigger, not hesitating and getting caught on a lot of travel calls, especially early in the year? And we've seen that a little bit from him, right? We've seen Moussa get a little bit of a run here in a couple of games, and hopefully it helps build him along, mention just 22 21 years old, respectively.
So a lot of time for growth there.
But if you can be effective in games in the bubble when you don't have literally outside of the white, include Garrett Temple who started some games during the season of times.
But no starters for this roster out there on the court, and you can still find a way to be effective and get your shot.
That speaks volumes to what your value could be when you can return to your normal position of depth on this roster, potentially going into what could very well be a championship run season next year.
So no TLC to keep himself in the mix.
I think Cruces showing you enough that there's value there his size.
He has good strength on him.
If he can knock down those perimeter shots, there's value there, you know? Listen, Taurean Prince probably isn't going anywhere.
You don't want to over ****yze his results cause he played out of position from most of the season.
But that's a bit of a question mark there.
Garrett Temple, I think, is the veteran leadership in depth Valiant.
More specifically, almost exclusively, his defense of value alone is worth it for late game situations, especially if you're up by a possession or two.
Get real flexibility to bring in a guy who don't worry about what it gives you offensively.
Just about locking up on the defense's side of the ball.
Um, you know, and then, unfortunately, we don't get to see Nick.
Klaxon would like to see that development.
I gotta take a look back again.
It holds minutes, but he reminded me of klaxon and purely in one sense coming in, didn't seem out of his element.
Didn't seem to get being lost at the N B.
A level having all of his experience being primarily in the G League.
So certainly looks like there could be some value there.
And I'd be excited for the Nets to bring him back in next season, even if it is to sit down there.
And the Geely continue to develop and find out what's possible there.
Because in the event that you do in the packaging potentially in making a trade, though, I hesitate to think they will.
And I hope that they don't can.
I believe you have off strong collection, maybe minus a couple of supplemental bench tweaks that you want to make.
But if you were to go that route, you want to make sure that you're supplementing with young talent at the G League and even the N B A level just to know once this stretches over with Kyrie and Katie, whatever the result is, it certainly would like to know that you have some youth, some depth in the pipeline so that going forward, this organization can keep be truly and rebooting the way they did over these past three years, leading up to the chance to have a championship caliber team starting next season.
That being the case, listen, it was a nice performance from from TLC.
We go and just take a quick look there at that stat line.
Why don't we, before we get out the door here and then we'll go ahead and come back in following the next game again? As I highlighted, we'll go more in depth on this game on the podcast later today.
Recording at four should be after up five or six o'clock.
So stay tuned for that, and we'll just think about the relative balance off losing a game by 30 points to the Boston Celtics on the heels of beating Ah team like the Milwaukee Bucks, who have their own championship aspirations here today.
So if we confined it, we will, and if not, we'll get out the door because, unfortunately, there we are hopping on the game long here real quick.
So there's that Milwaukee game where again, as we say, we're talking about a guy who managed to go 8 to 12 from the field, five of seven from beyond the arc in five of five at the line in 31 minutes of action, 26 points total.
Again, the big one here for me to that was zero turnovers.
So that's another factor just to continue this theme of what you can expect and hope for.
If you keep a player like this around, protect the basketball, so don't give up the turnovers, be consistent on the offensive end, at least be a pest on the defensive side of things.
And then you can live with the rest of this result.
And by the way, this isn't the expedition to carry the team or that you need to give 26 point performances.
But if you want to give a guy a night off and you want to bring in TLC, he can do that for you.
Is he gonna knock down 67% from the field? Obviously not, Is he gonna knock down 70% from beyond the arc? Obviously not.
But knowing that the possibility there is important and knowing that he that when given the opportunity he can step into that role is also something nice for this coaching staff in the organization overall to know.
And this is the way that they've done it again.
You can beat this drum all day with Spencer.
**** winning with Joe here, N b a overall maybe doesn't see the value in them, but get him into the system.
They start to understand the process, start to get continuity with your teammates, and then you see the results pay off so really into the nice thing to see, regardless of what happens in the future.
But we will continue the conversation around.
How do you want to build out depth on this roster? And how many of the current members of the Nets team do? We anticipate being back here next season.
That being said, stay tuned for the podcast latest afternoon with Doug, Nor, and myself will dive in on all that will preview the game ahead tomorrow for Brooklyn as they continue to move towards that playoff berth that we're talking about so much action out West.
Unfortunately, wish it was a little more dynamic in the Eastern Conference.
Nevertheless, let's check off that box of going to playoffs back to back seasons and move on from what has been a very interesting up and down season.
Will, to say the least for the Brooklyn Nets.
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