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to tweet this.
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Tweet this out.
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So let's get right.
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I know I'm there.
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A Here we go.
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That should stop with the problems.
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This way we have it up for a link, but also not for anyone who watches this in post.
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We're still trying to figure this thing out, so get cut us some slack.
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This is the 2nd 2nd run ever of BP.
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Trainings is an absolute magician.
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Uh, something Whatever.
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We haven't figured that out either.
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So we figured we get the content out and then figure out how to get the captain.
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But after I feel I feel like that might be the Nunes memo, just let's get it out there and we'll see how it fits after.
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I mean, it's not like the jacket toss our jacket tossed.
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Rapper was this amazing thing that just suddenly got picked up by every other news outlets.
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Now it's a thing.
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Head trip to Kevin Wall, the G, the guru of jacket test.
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The he really is.
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I do appreciate.
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Right now, my favorite thing about this tweeting SportsCastr link is that I actually get to see what you're wearing, and I do like the soul potatoes.
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That, of course, finally was over at the stadium this year and figured it's about time.
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So cool.
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So, uh, Steve.
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Hi, Andy.
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How we doing? Uh, we're doing therapy.
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Basketball won five in a row.
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That's something I didn't think that we're gonna be saying today.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, since the last time we talked, we've pretty much gats three big things.
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National signing day coming up, Syracuse basketball learned how to play again.
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And, uh, that d C that we're really happy about is in our D c anymore.
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So we're going happy into depressing back into mediocre.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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So a basketball, they seem to play really well for the first.
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What is it? 35 minutes of the game once.
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Five minutes of the game ways.
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If you're seriously, we all know me, right? You know, And the standard, Like there was a point where I definitely was screaming at my screen about bay.
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I'm taking the air out of the ball on the all the things we normally complain about and, you know, it's still we ended up with a win win is a win.
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I think the moment that we, the group that I was what we were up at East End in New York City, watching sponsored his fans, and the moment that we all were kind of waiting for happened, which was, I think there was 2 30 left on the clock.
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Elijah was carrying the ball up the court.
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Everybody knew that it was gonna be an ice.
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So play with a lot of taking three from the top of the top of the art.
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And everybody was just like, all right, It makes this game's over if he doesn't make this is gonna be a dumb ending.
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And he got the look he wanted and he clanked out.
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They get the rebounded.
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Pitt made a one possession game, and the game got done from there.
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It is the syrupy basketballs at that point where we're going to give the ball to Elijah in the last five minutes of the game.
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Doesn't matter how good or bad he's playing.
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Doesn't know, good or bad.
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The rest of team is playing.
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It's gonna come down to a larger making shots.
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Last life in this game and this was probably a logic used force game of the season by far.
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Oh, yeah, and it's very ad to see that from my standpoint, just from in the past few past few weeks, we've had more, more offensive options open up.
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And for some reason now it's we're reverting to last year.
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Give the ball to ties and see what happens.
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Like we don't need to do that.
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We can actually run place for all these 18 million shooters that we have.
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And, you know, try and get a good look instead of just put the ball in.
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Yes, Alicia's firing away our best player.
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He's our best scorer.
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He's going to, you know, do what he does, but it's we've got other options.
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We don't have to do that.
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If we had to do that about a necessity, it's one thing.
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But not being forced into that is very disappointing to see.
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Especially when you've got a point guard.
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You can shoot it in Gerard when you've got a buddy who is having one of his best game of the season.
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Quincy was able to dominate down like it wasn't like this was a game where this was 45 to 43 or something like the other guys were scoring and Jim Boeheim and the Syracuse team just kind of decided that doesn't matter.
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We're gonna trust Elijah down the stretch, which I don't I don't hate, but it really did feel like with the game console Ping away and a lot I should happen in the ad game.
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You should have found somebody else to get the ball there.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like you said, you've got to carry a who? I don't think he ended with a double double, but he had, like, 10 and 8 10 and nine.
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Um, you had buddy over 20.
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You had Gerard putting in a decent shift.
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You had Merrick with 1 12? Um, yeah.
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Like there was There was people that knew what they were doing on offense this game.
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Elijah Elijah was not one of them.
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And yet we're still putting the ball in his hands, So yeah, I didn't want it.
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The game.
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What it's clumsy on Tuesday night, like that is probably this is probably the toughest game being played while on this heater.
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Disrespect anybody anybody played, but and that's including u V.
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A.
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Yeah, that is definitely better than you right now.
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I don't think that I don't think even you be a band's sorry, Caroline.
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Yeah, well, I mean, of, of all the UV fans, I know she's one of the least likely to defend that opinion.
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So she tends to be a much of a realist as we tend to be about our boys.
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So, um, yeah, it's gonna be, you know, it's a clumsy thing that knocked off Duke so that I had that same moment where I was like, Yeah, they know that doesn't mean anything. Never mind.
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I do appreciate that.
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Syracuse is big game.
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This year is the obviously do game, but they've pitched.
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The North Carolina game is just as equal inputting when now, in retrospect, to the North Carolina game is probably going to be one of the worst games.
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And they carried on this year.
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Yeah, but, you know, um, no offense to a good chunk of the fan base, but like, they're going to come out because, UNC, it's the name recognition, just like in the slight channel I was talking about with when we were talking over the football schedule.
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You've got Oh, that came out to you know, another thing this week because it seemed to actually be a big week.
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Um, there you go.
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But with the football schedule, like you've got the f S u game, which probably isn't going to be as hard or is meaningful game is Louisville game.
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But that's gonna be the one that people circled on their schedule just because it says Florida State.
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Yeah, it's Thursday night, Thursday night at the Dome.
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So have we had a Thursday night, a C C game at the Dome? I know we've had a Thursday night game on the road.
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There was the dumbest you lot of attack Thursday night games on the schedule in the past, but we had one at home in our time in the A C C.
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We've had We've had a bunch of Fridays.
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We might have had one Thursday.
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I'm trying to think back because I've had I've had season since, at least because I moved back in 09 I think we got seasons in 12 or 13.
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So pretty much the entire to the A C c Um, and by that I mean all of it because math is hard.
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Um, I'm pretty sure that we might have had one, but don't quote me on that.
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Yeah, it just It just seems like it's a tough sell, because, um, it's like regardless of primetime aspect of it is you're playing on Thursday night in a town that has a terrible parking situation.
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And there's a lot of different reasons why Thursday nights aren't necessarily conducive to what Syracuse does best.
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Ethical.
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Meanwhile, Friday nights, I know from experience that a lot of a staff, a lot of the people who work at the university just bring clothes to change into leave some of your office and they go straight to delegating.
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And that's why Friday nights I've always kind of been this rock this party atmosphere because he's got the entire staff of Syracuse University going to the game immediately after work.
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It just Friday nights fit a lot better than a Thursday night Well, and I'm really intrigued to see how they how they handle that photo state Thursday night game.
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Yeah, um, I got a hunch.
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I think having f issue will help it.
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You know, just the name recognition, whether or not the game.
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By that point, the schedule even means anything.
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Who knows, But, um, for either team.
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Yeah, So, Maria, it's it's crazy because I think that's that's the senior being right.
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That'll last home game of the season.
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Uh, yeah, I think so.
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Yeah. So, Bill.
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So I see we'll play that up as senior game even though, um, it's just gonna exist in a weird game like it's a little game I feel like is definitely the biggest game of the year.
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And I know that I mentioned this slack that I feel like quote five casting play.
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Nobody I want to use.
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I feel statements I'm not using.
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This is like objective reporting statements.
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I feel like the S U along my office and s you as a whole will make that homecoming because that's the cortical biggest game on schedule in September, October.
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And in the past, they've wanted foreign central homecoming, whatever you wanna call it to always be the biggest weekend.
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Yeah, they have big attendance when in reality, I feel like s you should hide that came up as the big game and then make homecoming the Liberty game, which no one will go to If Syracuse loses that Louisville game, which in all honesty, they probably will, and then they'll choose the next week and clumsy.
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And then all the sudden you're going The Liberty game looking at 25,000.
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The dome, because s huge has lost two in a row.
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Two teams in your division and they're gonna be out of the Atlantic race.
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Yeah, so for anyone who hasn't seen it, season starts at BC at Rutgers.
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So two games on the road again.
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Because, you know, at least this one makes sense because, well, this one actually at least makes sense because of the dome renovations.
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Um, and they made that apparent, I think, less fall early winter.
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They came out and made a statement of, you know, yes, we're going to have to again.
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Last year was an anomaly, this year's on purpose type thing.
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So men home against Colgate, uh, at the Western Michigan Broncos, Everybody's favorite directional Michigan.
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Um, uh, boy And then, uh, Louisville and Liberty at home.
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All sorts of birds there away at Clemson, home against Georgia Tech, away at Wake and then NC State in Florida State at home and then pitch on the road.
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So it's it's a weird It's a weird sleep.
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I mean, you should come out of that for no start.
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Ideally, you know B.
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C.
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Post, as without a running back, will be a much easier ask.
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Yeah, so you know it is what it is.
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Shannon's not gonna able to turn that trash can for your around in a year.
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No.
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So Colgate's Colgate and Western Michigan's Western Michigan.
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So I know it all honesty.
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The Rutgers game will end up being a home game like I'm in a lot of communications with people in the area like that.
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Game will not be a records on game.
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It's gonna be a certain sum game for all intents and purposes.
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And I think that the coaching staff should have a team ready in a lot better way than they were for Liberty last year, where that game was ugly.
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Is that so? Well, I don't hate the schedule.
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I don't love the schedule, either, because that Luke like that Louisville game is it so early is just gonna be a wake up call for so many people, right? It's a should they should start for no, and that Liberty game's gonna be their back and to you back into reality.
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And there's gonna be so many people out crying and saying, Oh my gosh, what's wrong with this thing? When in reality, yeah, this is This is kind of what we should have all expected And there's no, there's nothing terribly project about losing you and that's it.
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It's gonna be Louisville isn't a trap game.
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It's a Sam trap game.
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If that's a thing I think it is now, I think we could make it a thing.
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A CZ, my father said in my pre wedding speech.
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Let's make this a real thing.
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You just sitting there deadpan that were like, Yeah, I like that, um so like, it's one of those games where anyone who knows Louisville and knows the situation they're in and pays attention to college football is like place pays close attention, is going to see it and think, OK, you know, it's a game we're probably gonna lose.
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But Louisville for years was either a toss of game or a game.
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We should win and I think a lot of the fan base will still think that and that's the humanly wrong.
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But it's still a thing.
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So I got a hunch like you said that is going to be that game where everyone's like, Oh my God, how did we lose that game? And we might get beaten out of the frickin dome.
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So loo loopholes returned most of their team that beat us by 20.
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Um, and there's there's no inclination that they're getting worse.
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Scott Scott's our fields, and you know what the hell he's doing.
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So yeah, I don't see.
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And that's my biggest worry at university and their marketing.
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And there everything is that they're going to turn this Louisville game into this big moment where they're going to see for no, they're going to see all this energy, and we're gonna have a very similar thing with plums and game, where you're basically seven team up for failure and you're essentially setting him up to go.
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We're going to give you this amazing stage that we know that you cannot capitalize on, and so therefore, we don't capitalize on it.
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We have a crutch to fall back and say, Well, you know, we weren't able to sell X number of tickets because they lost this one game and that's really unfortunate, and that's really stupid.
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But it is a thing that was uttered after the Clemson game this past year, where the clubs the game was this big marquee moment and s huge got around the building even though everybody that I talked to within the athletic department do that they were gonna get beat by clumsy everybody that I talk to you was heavily against the idea of making this clumsy game into something that it should have been it.
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Yeah, And that's always the academy between in the know and that minnow, Um, I like to think that in general, we try and look at things in the know.
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So let's keep that up.
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You know, speaking of being the know things, I like that Segway.
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However, prior we do have some people in the chat.
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I James, uh, James and Orange Truck.
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So I didn't realize that we had um Oh, God, yeah.
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We're like a Like I said the champ, we're still trying to figure this thing out.
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So, um, talk more.
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Basketball is Isn't that your alley, James? Like we can, We can We can always have you on, you know, make this a three or four way conversation, but better things.
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The inn for ah, for checks reference and in response to James's latest question, telly tenders do rank number one worldwide.
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There's, I don't think there's any question about this.
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So sorry about that for my bachelor party.
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If this past year was in Pittsburgh, I live in New York City, and the easiest way to get from New York City of Pittsburgh basically involves driving.
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Kind of threw around the Scranton area and then jumping on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
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And my guys that I was driving to Pittsburgh with decided to take a 45 minute detour.
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Thio, uh, forget with the name of the exit is but where there's a Tony's outside of Scranton 45 minutes out of the way.
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Just go tell it on the way there and back.
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I feel like that. That'll make Chuck proud.
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I wish I could shut out the exact location and branch of the telly's, but it waas fantastic, and it is the most Syracuse thing ever that you've got a bunch of 20 something guys rolling up on their way to and on their way back from a bachelor party to Tully's with the sole excuse of this is the best food we're gonna get on the drive between Pennsylvania and New Jersey, New York.
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So, yes, still, EastEnders are the absolute best.
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Nice.
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And for the record, James on the beer front, uh, Burlington Future Glow, which is one of their Session I P.
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A's and Aurora Vermont trips, which is one of their i p A's with Centennial, Columbus, Amarillo and Simcoe hops.
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So New York City H 20 Because I drink a lot of flower power earlier today.
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So that's that's Yep.
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So, um, for the record, by the way, if anyone hears anything weird, that sounds like a small crank child.
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My mom, a baby monitor, is near the mic, so I apologize ahead of time.
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That's just the kid talking, knowing that we're about to talk about Syracuse football defensive side of the ball.
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Yeah, but before we get there that thank you for reminding me about the stuff earlier today, I tweeted out asking personal questions and naturally, Kevin Wall, the creator of the Jim Boeheim, back a toss a jacket cross a t m.
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He is straight marking that now everybody who may be interested in a copying that information from the jacket.
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John Straker, Kevin asked about the offensive line last two games, being vindicated for success and kind of jumping off that frying pan Wash.
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Who's very Twitter followers and active, got news board, basically said that he feels really optimistic because of Bergeron, and he's wondering if that's a wrong feeling and it will be burned by that season.
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Which is the crux Syracuse response, Which is always worry that your happiness will be cashed by disappointment, but as the offensive line guru way haven't really got into it a whole lot because we didn't know exactly what's going on the offensive side of the ball.
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But it looks like the coaching staff on the offense has been settled down.
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It's been sorted out.
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Do you think that with everything that happened to Sox season, the Syracuse offensive line will continue to t l D r m? That Yes, um, if you want me to get into the weeds on it Uh, yes.
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And, um, basically, when you look a TTE post ran Alexander and the ships that were made and what happened? Um, the inclusion of that Bergeron, who came out of Quebec, is a three star and is he played the last three games like a You know, at least a sop****re, like knew what he was doing, made a couple of rookie mistakes but in general came in and was able to, you know, take his takes place in the offense.
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Um, the shift of service outside And more importantly, in my opinion, the shift of veteran low inside, um, and shoring up that center spot, which a CZ I think you and I know I talk with you and Kevin a lot about it, But, um, if you go back and watch the tape Ah, lot of the issue was the interaction between service and Dakota Davis and I was putting a lot of that blame on Dakota Davis.
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A lot of those same things got short up when Veteran Low came in there, so I don't know if it was a Davis issue or a service and Davis issue or something.
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Service is still a very solid lineman.
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He may be better off a tackle.
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He may have worked great with Aaron Roberts and not as well with Dakota Davis.
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So, you know, for one reason or another, it wasn't working.
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The shift made it work, and if you look at the either the stats or just in general passenger look test.
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Um, for the last three three, probably four, because I believe it was four games that, uh, since the birds around switch and then the week after the birds around switch after l example of the program, um, was the move to the guard tackle switch between veteran and service.
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Once they got that final alignment, things really turned around.
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We were able to run to run the ball a lot better.
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We were able to protect the ball or protect the quarterback a lot better.
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Um, you know, it really turned things around, so I'll take that any any day of the week.
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And if these kids can keep improving, you know, service will be a Richard Sr.
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Um I think Evan Adams will be the only loss we have, which we can slot in if Sam Heckle is healthy.
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I still think I mentioned last time way, haven't heard anything about him.
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So whether he is healthy or it's something that is going to just keep pushing him out, um, who knows? But whatever it is, you know, he's a He's a serviceable option or, you know, Pat Davis came in a couple of times.
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He can play the role as well, so we'll see what happens there.
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We've also got dearest his Dale.
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Who was that grad transfer? Um, so you know, there's there's plenty of bodies there and to replace one person on the offensive line versus effectively, you know? Yes, we had five guys returning with experience, but not in the experience in the positions they were in.
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So it's so it's a lot different situation.
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Yeah, I guess, um, with two big things that I want to take out of this are, from a process standpoint, why Alexander was rushed into being a starter.
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I know the plan was never for him to start right away.
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They going into that season over against Liberty, that the plan was never for him to be on the offensive line right out the gate.
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I think I think the staff I want to give the staff credit for at least realizing off the jump that he probably wasn't a C C.
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Material from day one.
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You probably need to be a gradual ramp up to that and the other the other party is going that, you know, it doesn't matter, kind of from an offensive line standpoint, so much of it is how you work as a unit rather than have work individually on like, a lot of other positions.
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And I think you kind of hit the nail on the head that something happened.
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No disrespect to anybody on that line when they were doing what they were doing to kind of make things work.
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But there was.
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There was definitely something going on between the code Davis and the rest of the offensive line that either they were leaving him out of an island because of miscommunication or intentional, and it made him look like a weak link when in reality there was an overall communication issue with line.
00:25:13
And in those last three games this season, that got smoothed over.
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And my hope is that whatever the underlying issue, Waas is now resolved so you could go into that plug and play system of all right While this guy's going down, we're trying to play seven Adams.
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We need to plug somebody else in, but at least we know now not to force X y and Z right, and we do also have a couple more, um, become more layers of depth at specific positions.
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So you know we'll be able to who plugged the next guardian and guard play the next tackling a tackle.
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I mean it.
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As weird as it had, is weird.
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As it sounds, it does matter.
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And as someone who like I was what I played in college, I was the six man in like at Guard center attack.
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Ally was the backup and much like we were talking, I know I played better with some players.
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I played worse with others like there's there's a distinct differences to how you play with which personnel.
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So, um, it'll be It'll be interesting to see once we can move this into getting guards for guards, getting tackles for tackles, getting centers for centers where that'll go.
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So I think, uh, I think I have, ah, a little bit of ah promise for for the upcoming season, for the old line from a position of weakness moving to possibly a position of strength there, I say I ultimately it all starts and stops with the defensive line.
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I mean, this.
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This year's offensive line was probably one of the worst that Dino Babers has ever had, period.
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Um, and he was still able to win the second most amount of games.
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That he's everyone in Syracuse, which I know is a very backhanded compliment in itself.
00:27:01
But the there is enough talent on the offensive side of the roster to overcome a really terrible offensive line.
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A good offensive line could carry this team to a bowl game with relative ease based on schedule that's laid out in front of us on.
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I think that's all anybody wants for this year.
00:27:19
Is that you know, I think everybody kind of learned their lesson about expecting the 10 winds just because the schedule looks bad at being while we're We're at a point now where get the six wins when that six wind comes will determine what our expectations are for the rest of the season.
00:27:38
And I, at this point and thoroughly going to the season of just get to a bowl game will probably play in New York City.
00:27:45
It'll be fine.
00:27:46
It'll be whatever.
00:27:47
But they need that bowl game. They need those extra wraps.
00:27:50
Going into 2021 2021 is the season where we're looking at a love underclassmen becoming upperclassmen and making that jump right And, you know, outside of 100 Cisco who will be gone after this year like I have no excursions, that he's staying anywhere because the kids just that **** good.
00:28:13
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:28:15
Um, and I mean, he's He's showing up on a pre season all American masters like he's the kids.
00:28:22
Kids gonna be good.
00:28:23
So, um, he's got the body he's got.
00:28:27
He's got everything to be a safety at the next level.
00:28:29
So, you know, well, more power to him, you know? Can't can't really much like people always complain about players going one and done.
00:28:40
There was not from the basketball side.
00:28:42
If someone's good enough to go from the football side as a junior CIA like, I would love you to come back.
00:28:48
But make your money.
00:28:55
Chan.
00:28:57
It was Chandler.
00:28:58
First.
00:28:59
I thought he was a second round.
00:29:00
I know.
00:29:01
He was the last pick in the first round of the Patriots, wasn't it? Yeah, I think so.
00:29:04
So, I mean, it's not like Syracuse first rounders come all that often, and the fact that this guy will be a Dino Babers in and out.
00:29:15
Yeah, I think I think says a lot.
00:29:17
That's and he's a New York in two.
00:29:19
Like for all the crap that everybody gives, you know about not being able to recruit New York or whatever.
00:29:25
You know, Cisco's in a New York State kid that I got was recorded and enough, it's Syracuse.
00:29:30
I'll take that any day now.
00:29:33
You know? He he lended him.
00:29:36
He lended Mahar who was this year who was a solid, uh, New York prospect at Rochester.
00:29:42
So you know, there's kids that air willing to come and play for Dina, which that's kind of what we've been hoping since the beginning.
00:29:51
So we'll see how that goes.
00:29:54
I mean, this is another wonderful transition Right now.
00:29:57
We're talking about kids who want to come and play for Dino.
00:30:00
Let's talk about National Signing Day.
00:30:02
That's the thing that's happening very soon.
00:30:04
You know what? We got two weeks until that week and 1/2.
00:30:07
We can I Tuesday.
00:30:08
Yeah, it's weird because I know that I know not everybody is into it, But podcasting played.
00:30:16
Nobody is one of my constant rotations of the banner Society broadcast network.
00:30:21
They they talked about a while ago about how early signing day has basically become national signing day.
00:30:28
Coaches are basically going to recruit and saying, If you don't want to sign on early, signing day like you're probably not worthy of this program X, y and z on.
00:30:38
So for a lot of the lower talented kids, the stars of below You signed on early signing game, but it's the four of the five stars who actually have some leverage could drag it on out.
00:30:49
Or in Syracuse, this case.
00:30:51
We got some late bloomers and there's a couple of guys that are it seemed to be being moved by Syracuse.
00:31:00
One of the big ones is Qari Wiggles, defensive end out of Atlanta, Georgia.
00:31:04
We want just because we want a guy writing with Yukari Wiggles.
00:31:08
All name. Team 2020.
00:31:10
He would be fantastic, and his teammate Toronto Jones are both out of high school in Atlanta.
00:31:16
Syracuse just recently made them a visit down down there, they're trying to kind of blew them away from Georgia Tech.
00:31:23
I It seems like that would be a big coup for the orange.
00:31:27
There's not a ton of other.
00:31:29
There's there's a few other players that will get into whose Syracuse seems into.
00:31:32
But the idea that Syracuse, regardless of what they do on defense, which will handle a little bit getting a six to defensive end and a six to defense of back seem like a really great gets out of Atlanta for the orange, just based off of the town of profiling based off of the hub that exists in Atlanta holes, they both would work better in that 335 Uh, but they could be.
00:32:01
I mean, yeah, well, hold that one, but yeah, coming out of, uh, early signing day cues according to 24 7 is, um, 59th nationally, 12th in the A C.
00:32:12
C.
00:32:13
Which ballpark where we've been.
00:32:15
Um, that's also, you know, we've got not counting into that would be transferred.
00:32:22
Chris Blake, which big guy from Florida coming to Syracuse so offensive guard transfer was a starting offensive guard in Syria.
00:32:36
Florida will be coming in not eligible this year, but will be eligible the following year, so we'll see how that goes.
00:32:43
He's not counting towards the recruiting class.
00:32:46
We also at present outside of those who have signed, including all named team Maximilian Mango from Germany.
00:32:54
Uh, yeah.
00:32:56
Uh, if nothing else, you know, between him and wiggles, Mannion wiggles.
00:33:00
That's that's just that's gold right there that if you want, if you want news content, we've got news content.
00:33:07
Uh, but the the other The other big thing coming from National Signing Day Moving into coming from a really exciting big movie international Sunday There we go is Chase Atkinson, who's a safety who committed and was holding out until committed.
00:33:26
I believe, like August dish, if I remember right.
00:33:30
But he he's holding out until the full like the actual national signing day.
00:33:36
I can remember he had some reason that he wanted to do, But, um so he's still still honor, you know, commits list but hasn't signed.
00:33:45
So I guess he's the first.
00:33:47
The first of the people that air potentially going to sign on national signing day.
00:33:52
Yeah, I think the Atkinson's a great would be a great get just a kind of shore up and remind everybody that you know this.
00:33:59
This staff has been working hard even through all of the turnover.
00:34:03
And I know that a lot of people are gonna get are gonna point out.
00:34:05
Antoine Reed is a kid from Brooklyn, which immediately is going to send up flags of We need to get this kid.
00:34:14
He's an offensive tackle.
00:34:15
He's six foot five, he's £326.
00:34:19
That that is, that is some size, right there are seen, if I've ever seen it.
00:34:24
Juco kid, right? Yes, he's from the college here, which is I don't wanna.
00:34:34
I see a lot of football takes place around here.
00:34:36
Just because I'm in a section of Brooklyn where there is a lot of call is.
00:34:40
There's a lot of fields out by me.
00:34:41
I'm able to see a lot of it.
00:34:43
You know the quality.
00:34:44
The quality is not off the standard of even New Jersey, but what your kid of that size and your Brooklyn.
00:34:51
There's a lot of people myself.
00:34:53
I fall into that that mentality as well.
00:34:57
Way need to get this guy.
00:34:58
It's it's imperative that Syracuse, as the New York school, gets these New York, it's yeah, and, uh, and these Antoine's commitment is not guaranteed.
00:35:10
It seems to still be very much up in the air that being said offensive tackle would be a great position to shore up.
00:35:18
But I'm not necessarily sure that if we don't get Antoine read, the offensive line is going to be screwed long term.
00:35:27
Or Sarah is.
00:35:28
Recruiting is going to be in that bad of shape.
00:35:30
We don't get this kid right now.
00:35:32
His his offer list also includes Florida State, Tennessee.
00:35:35
Uh, you may be marshalling you mess, so he's got some.
00:35:39
You got some decent programs looking at him.
00:35:42
So, uh, hey, if he wants to come north, I'm all for it.
00:35:47
Uh, especially coming off of next year.
00:35:51
You know that that service file will be open.
00:35:54
So whether it's him coming and taking it or could hear White actually turning into something, we'll see.
00:36:02
Yeah, I think I think that was the coated messaging that I was trying to get to.
00:36:07
But you know, Dear White was another one of these kids that was from the area that served.
00:36:11
You needed to get on.
00:36:13
He's currently wrong, but he has not seen the field in any bird in any action.
00:36:19
Believe is currently going to be a Richard sop****re and hasn't seen the field for anything at this point, you know? Yeah, he wasn't done, uh, was not field goal team or anything.
00:36:29
So yeah, and everybody was saying a kid that needs that's used to getting it right when in actuality, he's very, very large human being who's quite raw, right? I feel like I feel like any kid you're gonna get with that kind of size coming from New York City area if they're not playing in Jersey like that's that's gonna be their thing is that they're going to be raw.
00:36:55
If they were playing in New Jersey, they would be, you know, baby, either recruited all help or they would they be less raw, but less less heralded, right? Which is where we have kind of.
00:37:11
That's kind of where Syracuse is kinda made their mark on the, you know, Yeah, slightly more refined, a little raw, but you know, bumps and bound.
00:37:20
In that case, it bumps him down like a three star, and then we find them and turn them into something right, and I it's it's really unfortunate.
00:37:29
I know people only see like a four star in New York City, and they're like, Sarah, you should get this get.
00:37:35
It's not always in our best interest to get them because they're not going to be what you think that they will be down the road.
00:37:40
Right? Uh, overall disclaimer that the coaches actually know what they're doing.
00:37:46
Like when they're recruiting someone.
00:37:48
If they don't want someone, they're not going after them.
00:37:52
Conversely, if they're going after somebody, there's probably a reason for it.
00:37:56
And that leads us to Dylan Markowitz out of McKinley, Texas, who just he literally I think it's a tweet, like two days about two days ago.
00:38:12
And behold, he's scheduled this weekend, right? Yeah, it's been wild because the initial report waas Hey, there's this really good quarterback from Texas who's visiting Syracuse and hear of his high school staff, and his high school staffs are insane.
00:38:29
It's like 42 touchdown, six interceptions, 4000 yards looks like looks like Joe Gerard's high school stats.
00:38:39
But that was in Glens Falls, New York, right? It's this you've got You finally got this quarterback from a hotbed of talent, was putting up amazing numbers and he's interested in Syracuse and so naturally a lot of people went okay, so he's obviously being recruited by the Texas schools.
00:38:57
The the answer is no.
00:38:59
His only other credible offer is Texas State, which is a non D one football program and, say, Sarah visit Syracuse two days ago.
00:39:11
He got an offer from Syracuse two days ago, and he's across 2020 hits.
00:39:16
My assumption is that he's going to sign the Syracuse because we're his only one offer on, and it seems like it's a full time scholarship.
00:39:23
It's not this preferred walk on.
00:39:25
It is a full time offer to a Texas kid that nobody else is offering.
00:39:30
He has no stars on any recruiting site, and I think that there's a lot of people who are going This guy is a hidden gem of the Rockies.
00:39:41
Would be the next Eric done Jean And there are a lot of other people going.
00:39:45
This guy has no stars wise.
00:39:46
Stop wasting time on him.
00:39:48
Your point the staff is bringing in, they see something.
00:39:51
They wanted him.
00:39:53
Yeah, and I mean, we've talked about it before, even even if Kurt Martin doesn't return.
00:39:58
Uh, he's still got those connections, and he's still tight with Dino.
00:40:03
It might be a guy that him or he coach Texas High School football for E ends might be a guy that you know his people saw or he's got some connection to that tipped them off and said, Hey, nobody's looking at this kid.
00:40:16
Why don't you put some eyes on him? And if they don't like what he saw and do, you know, like what he saw? And I guess she said, you know, kind of ask you about this just from a football standpoint.
00:40:30
It's not totally uncommon for a kid who was really good to not go noticed because he's in a talent rich state or because he's in a space that's being so hyper Lee recruited.
00:40:42
He might not be as good as the guy in that he's playing against.
00:40:46
But he also happens to be to be pretty solid himself like this.
00:40:49
Oh, you know, I know when you're when you're in one of the hot beds.
00:40:54
It's a whole different ball game like, and he was playing what 5878 something like that.
00:41:00
He was playing a decent level of Texas football, but still, you know, if they're not on, um, and it's not that there's something wrong with him.
00:41:08
It's just maybe nobody noticed him, so they definitely have seen the film Autumn.
00:41:15
So if there's something there seeing that they like, then yeah, I'm I'm cautiously optimistic that there's not necessarily, but this kid is going to be prolific, Um, but if nothing else, this might be the guy to replace DeVito in the sense of Wei.
00:41:32
Have a transition thing.
00:41:33
We have a quarterback who's willing to take over fits.
00:41:36
The scheme fits the system.
00:41:38
While he might not be amazing or technically that DeVito Waas, he's going to be a solid transition option, which I think John mentioned in our Slapper slapper.
00:41:47
One time that Syracuse quarterbacks are are here, miss.
00:41:51
We either end up with a Ryan Nassib Eric Dungy level of this kid comes in.
00:41:57
It's a sop****re place three years and just becomes everything that we hope.
00:42:02
Dream or there's somewhere of non serviceable, not very good, and they're just not able to win any games on their own, which is a rather unfortunate spot to be.
00:42:13
And now that you're in the SEC and not in the Big East for every down, we'll make mad.
00:42:17
We haven't Andrew Robinson.
00:42:19
Yes, so um, actually is weird.
00:42:26
As it is, I went back and looked, you know, not to completely digress.
00:42:29
But when you look at from Marvin Graves the progression like you had Marvin Graves, Todd, Phil Cox, uh, can remember who came in after that was eager gains men. McNabb.
00:42:45
And it's just like you look at that stretch and then you look at the Perry Patterson Troy Nunes, uh, like going through that whole era that 10 year like that decade, first the nineties to the two thousands and then the 2000 ten's Nassib Dungy.
00:43:04
Yes, you've got some trail hunt and some other smatterings in there.
00:43:07
Yeah, but the 20 tents compared to the dots were a great, great, uh, hum A great year for quarterbacks.
00:43:20
Also, I don't know what a foam finger does, but awesome.
00:43:24
Thank you, saggy.
00:43:26
We just got some things.
00:43:28
It just exploded across my screen.
00:43:30
I don't know what it means, but it's awesome that we're doing a solid job, which is all that we can ever ask for on that on that quarterback thing, I think my favorite my favorite aspect of the whole of the whole quarterback tree at Syracuse is that we I don't want to take credit for it for use magician Exactly.
00:43:50
Wasn't me? But I do want a new addition to get credit for the fact that we are hyping up. That does.
00:43:56
Marone 85 Syracuse team that had a four way split of the Big East title bills has forever kind of, you know, his S and P numbers say that that was a top 30 squad in the century.
00:44:09
There's a lot of people kind of smart football.
00:44:12
People realize that that was Syracuse is peak right there on.
00:44:16
I feel like new condition is doing a better job of just constantly reminding people that team was freaking amazing.
00:44:23
It shouldn't have been waiting for.
00:44:25
They scheduled them.
00:44:26
As as John said, It is proof of what happens when you schedule yourself to death, and it's always, you know, last year is proof of what happens when the schedule runs your way.
00:44:36
So we'll know straight that two years ago I got we're still we're still in the 2019 cycle. For me.
00:44:45
I haven't fully switched over to 2020 football.
00:44:49
So the you know, if you, as far as what happened on the field if you flopped the records for those two teams, that's probably the reality of those two teams.
00:44:59
That is the sad truth right there.
00:45:02
****, Yeah, yeah, that that that NASA team should have been ranked and respected a lot more and actually should've been the one that finished the season ranked in the postseason poll.
00:45:13
Well, last year's team was definitely a man.
00:45:17
Their defense was so bad that s and p hated that someone? Yep.
00:45:23
And for as much as people will poo poo on, you know, advanced stats.
00:45:27
There's a reason that their salad metrics So they did.
00:45:31
They didn't they didn't like this year's team when everybody else wanted Thio and they ended up being more right that we were.
00:45:37
So speaking of bad defense is, uh, this year Syracuse defense doesn't currently have a coordinator.
00:45:45
No.
00:45:46
Zachary Net bounced after his portable cup of coffee at Syracuse.
00:45:53
Um, yeah, that won't hurt.
00:45:56
That was a lot to lose our net.
00:45:58
So, yes, I will.
00:46:01
100% say that it hurts, and I really wish Arnett was still here as a coordinator.
00:46:07
However, the silver lining on that is that we know wild heck is more than willing to throw out 900 k for a coordinator, which I don't think I ever would have thought in my life.
00:46:21
So, yeah, let's let's talk about that really quick because I think a lot of people are hyper focusing in on the idea that our net and this is a very Syracuse mentality.
00:46:33
They're hyper focusing in on the guy that had Syracuse willing to match the same amount of money and then decided, You know what? No, I don't wanna be in Syracuse.
00:46:42
I wanna be at Mississippi State, um, removing the SEC, removing the job from an it I think the largest thing is the aggressiveness upon which Wild Pack and the athletic department made it clear publicly that they were willing to pay SEC money for coordinator.
00:47:01
That's something that I've never seen this athletic department be so open about, really, that they're deflecting.
00:47:08
They're usually saying that we have financial constraints.
00:47:11
This is the first time that I've actively seen them going like, no, we have financial muscle to hold somebody down.
00:47:18
This guy just decided not to stay right When John openly said, we we offered to match it.
00:47:26
I was like my my job basically dropped.
00:47:29
It's like, Okay, you know, if you're gonna match 900 K than way, have no problem moving forward like we will find somebody the dino wants.
00:47:39
We will get someone, whoever's left.
00:47:41
So I mean, that that's relatively thin at this point, I would think, but you can probably still poach someone away.
00:47:49
Um, and there are a couple of people without jobs.
00:47:52
Still, Yeah, I think.
00:47:54
I think that's why there's been this.
00:47:57
I think a lot of people I know that when we posted the article about about the story of the comments were pretty, you know, all up in arms and everybody was losing their craft.
00:48:09
But the media reaction in general was pretty muted because of that nine K.
00:48:15
Everybody kind of realized like That's the money that Syracuse is want to throw around.
00:48:21
This isn't like building the spot is not going to be a problem.
00:48:25
Um, and all that note when you have dedicated throw around outside of poaching somebody from the SEC who is already making 900,000 there's not a whole lot of other jobs that are that are paying that amount for coordinator.
00:48:40
Yeah, it's, you know, sec, Big 10 some big 12 teams.
00:48:44
And that's it.
00:48:47
You know, outside of a Texas Ohio state in the S A C.
00:48:50
You're not seeing that right.
00:48:52
And it's crazy that Syracuse was going to give that to a quote unquote unproven defensive coordinator.
00:48:59
Not that Arnett wasn't qualified, but we're talking about a guy who was coaching defense in San Diego State.
00:49:05
We're not talking about a protege at a big, big school we're not talking about, you know, the next the hot, ***y coordinator.
00:49:13
For a moment, we're talking about a guy.
00:49:15
It was pretty much consistently under the radar, right? Until the last couple of I mean, he had, what, a top 25 defense last year.
00:49:23
But you also have to take into account the Mountain west he's playing against.
00:49:27
So, um, I think this year he kind of turned into that hot candidate, and Dino was gonna kind of have a bit of a coup and grabbing him.
00:49:38
But at the same time, you know? Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of hype around a prior to that, So yeah, and so we're talking about this as we are loading up that for me, at least my personal.
00:49:54
I feel that Syracuse should be going after Charlie Strong pretty aggressively.
00:50:00
He's somebody that would be Charlie Strong is not gonna be the defensive coordinator at Syracuse for 10 years, but in this situation that Syracuse finds themselves in where they need a defensive coordinator.
00:50:12
Last minute for at least a year, Charlie Strong seemed like the perfect guy to come in.
00:50:17
Keep the 33335 scheme that they were going to move to attacked.
00:50:22
Um, and if he does a good job, awesome.
00:50:25
He's motivated to do a good job so I could get the next head coaching job, and then we can fill it in with somebody with more long term.
00:50:32
If he ends up doing a bad job.
00:50:34
Well, then at least we were able to say she everybody who's going you lost after a while.
00:50:38
Yeah, but we're bringing in Charlie Strong.
00:50:40
This guy who I would like to remind everybody beat Syracuse twice to save his job.
00:50:46
Yeah, and quite, um, quite profusely.
00:50:52
This looks we're not fun. Beat downs.
00:50:55
Um, but yeah, it's.
00:50:57
And when you look at strong for anyone who doesn't know Sterling Gilbert, the new offensive coordinator coach under Charlie Strong at Texas and USF.
00:51:08
Um, And then that will be.
00:51:13
I think that's That's the main connection.
00:51:15
But yeah, there's there's the unspoken connection of Dino and Charlie, one of the handful of black head coaches in Division one, Right? That's that is that's a very small fraternity that is very aware what everybody else is doing for black or better term.
00:51:37
And Syracuse And Charlie Strong was very much constantly in Syracuse is in radar.
00:51:43
They were always on.
00:51:44
He was always somehow, suddenly on schedule, and it always ended up being a pain in the ass.
00:51:50
Yeah, he it's almost like whether it was Louisville or us, eh? For wherever he was always somewhere in the vicinity of Syracuse and it sucked every time.
00:52:01
Yeah.
00:52:03
Um, yeah, Let's see, he was Florida text saying, I'm sitting Illinois. Florida.
00:52:08
Well, Miss Notre Dame for a while.
00:52:11
Yeah, uh, the Eastern U S. C.
00:52:14
He was a D. C. There.
00:52:16
Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida.
00:52:22
Well, and then, uh, What's that? No, the whole team, especially orjust I've got nightmares.
00:52:29
That was pre Lamar, but they were still destroying everybody.
00:52:32
Yeah, and then, ah, he ended up moment for mayor to the Texas gig.
00:52:38
And then, uh, at that point in 2016 is when he poached Gilbert from Phil Montgomery, who had hired Gilbert away from Babers at's Bowling Green and then had him for three years.
00:52:55
And then Gilbert got the head coaching gig at McNeese.
00:52:58
So, yeah, I mean the interwoven Web of If anybody ever wants to dive down coaching tree stuff, you will just you'll get lost like I've tried to do it a couple times, just like he did what with who and where.
00:53:13
Uh, so it's always interesting listening to people talk about it.
00:53:20
There's obviously a pretty large stigma of the coach's kid like the kid who ends up being a player and then ends up being a coach under his dad in some way, shape or form.
00:53:32
Kendall runs.
00:53:34
But in reality, uh, whatever guys you end up doing well with that ends up becoming almost worse than your own family.
00:53:42
Oh, it's you will.
00:53:43
You will bring them along wherever you go, regardless of what the qualifications are, and then when they start getting coached away and they end up being the guy that makes somebody else successful.
00:53:54
The whole thing depends on being very much.
00:53:56
You end up being a bunch.
00:53:57
I guess the goal is to always be a bunch of people's guy way when one of them being something you're always available.
00:54:04
Yeah, and that's They all seem to interweave somehow.
00:54:09
Like you look at the babies coaching tree itself and you have Montgomery who went off in the head coaching, and you now have Shawn Lewis.
00:54:18
And if you look at all the guys under them, you know, Mackey went with, uh with Lewis and did the whole like, there's this whole interwoven Marone now is tightened that because the Magi thing and the whole leg, who knows? It's all just it's interwoven, and it's gonna be It's gonna be really interesting.
00:54:38
Doug Marone is now detained for a warrior on the Jaguars.
00:54:42
I guarantee you that if our own ends up getting acquired this year and Dino Babers does not get to six wings, there is going to be a call to come back.
00:54:53
I, uh God, Yeah.
00:55:01
Hey, uh, I don't know.
00:55:04
I don't know.
00:55:07
Yeah.
00:55:08
Now it's It's the definition of now.
00:55:10
I can't unsee that.
00:55:11
So here we are.
00:55:14
So here we are.
00:55:15
At the end of our conversation, I feel like we cover it. A little bit of everything.
00:55:21
I feel like we were able to satiate everybody's burning questions that they had and ultimately is the This is for for nothing happening.
00:55:35
It was a really busy this week.
00:55:39
All you have the Syracuse basketball trying to maintain momentum, moving a second place in the conference against Duke, which, how dumb does that sound? If you had told me at the beginning of this season that Syracuse, going into the Duke game would be contending for second place in the conference, I wouldn't have said that you were crazy.
00:56:00
But if you had told me that being doing so, Syracuse would not want a nonconference game against a tournament team, I I would've looked at you like an alien from outer space because nothing about this season makes any kind of logical sense, except for the fact that you now have the context of the rest of these easy being right.
00:56:22
If you could have, if you told me at the beginning of the season two different scenarios.
00:56:26
Syracuse is 13 and seven in the second week of a species here in the like going into February and a sissy play, like, if it's our overall record, you would have been like, Okay, that kind of sucks.
00:56:36
And we're kind of like the bottom of the SEC.
00:56:40
And then if you'd have said hypothetically, we're going to be in second after this week.
00:56:45
If we actually win games going into same time, period.
00:56:51
You're just, like what? No, that's not gonna happen.
00:56:54
And yet we're here. We're here.
00:56:57
Yeah.
00:56:58
So, yeah, I mean, I mean, we live in 2019.
00:57:04
This is the weirdest time yet far away.
00:57:07
We've have we I think we may have reached Earth 44.
00:57:11
I feel like a record 42 right now.
00:57:16
Like we're we're dangerously close.
00:57:18
There's just a couple of things breaking one way or the other to bring us there before their ugo.
00:57:23
But we're not.
00:57:24
We're not that far off.
00:57:26
Um, which is which is terrifying to think about it about **** you got there.
00:57:32
You call the book Syracuse sports fans, which we overlap into that territory.
00:57:38
So always pleasure.
00:57:47
Well, I have a two year old.
00:57:48
So this is where my Saturday nights lie so well, I hope that you see, that's have a wonderful night dreaming Syracuse defensive 335 schemes.
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SU vs. Pitt Basketball and NSD Preview

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Tweet this out.
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So let's get right.
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Copy.
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I know I'm there.
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A Here we go.
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That should stop with the problems.
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This way we have it up for a link, but also not for anyone who watches this in post.
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We're still trying to figure this thing out, so get cut us some slack.
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This is the 2nd 2nd run ever of BP.
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Trainings is an absolute magician.
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Uh, something Whatever.
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We haven't figured that out either.
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So we figured we get the content out and then figure out how to get the captain.
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But after I feel I feel like that might be the Nunes memo, just let's get it out there and we'll see how it fits after.
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I mean, it's not like the jacket toss our jacket tossed.
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Rapper was this amazing thing that just suddenly got picked up by every other news outlets.
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Now it's a thing.
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Head trip to Kevin Wall, the G, the guru of jacket test.
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The he really is.
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I do appreciate.
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Right now, my favorite thing about this tweeting SportsCastr link is that I actually get to see what you're wearing, and I do like the soul potatoes.
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That, of course, finally was over at the stadium this year and figured it's about time.
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So cool.
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So, uh, Steve.
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Hi, Andy.
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How we doing? Uh, we're doing therapy.
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Basketball won five in a row.
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That's something I didn't think that we're gonna be saying today.
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Yeah.
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So, uh, since the last time we talked, we've pretty much gats three big things.
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National signing day coming up, Syracuse basketball learned how to play again.
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And, uh, that d C that we're really happy about is in our D c anymore.
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So we're going happy into depressing back into mediocre.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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So a basketball, they seem to play really well for the first.
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What is it? 35 minutes of the game once.
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Five minutes of the game ways.
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If you're seriously, we all know me, right? You know, And the standard, Like there was a point where I definitely was screaming at my screen about bay.
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I'm taking the air out of the ball on the all the things we normally complain about and, you know, it's still we ended up with a win win is a win.
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I think the moment that we, the group that I was what we were up at East End in New York City, watching sponsored his fans, and the moment that we all were kind of waiting for happened, which was, I think there was 2 30 left on the clock.
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Elijah was carrying the ball up the court.
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Everybody knew that it was gonna be an ice.
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So play with a lot of taking three from the top of the top of the art.
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And everybody was just like, all right, It makes this game's over if he doesn't make this is gonna be a dumb ending.
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And he got the look he wanted and he clanked out.
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They get the rebounded.
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Pitt made a one possession game, and the game got done from there.
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It is the syrupy basketballs at that point where we're going to give the ball to Elijah in the last five minutes of the game.
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Doesn't matter how good or bad he's playing.
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Doesn't know, good or bad.
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The rest of team is playing.
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It's gonna come down to a larger making shots.
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Last life in this game and this was probably a logic used force game of the season by far.
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Oh, yeah, and it's very ad to see that from my standpoint, just from in the past few past few weeks, we've had more, more offensive options open up.
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And for some reason now it's we're reverting to last year.
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Give the ball to ties and see what happens.
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Like we don't need to do that.
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We can actually run place for all these 18 million shooters that we have.
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And, you know, try and get a good look instead of just put the ball in.
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Yes, Alicia's firing away our best player.
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He's our best scorer.
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He's going to, you know, do what he does, but it's we've got other options.
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We don't have to do that.
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If we had to do that about a necessity, it's one thing.
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But not being forced into that is very disappointing to see.
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Especially when you've got a point guard.
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You can shoot it in Gerard when you've got a buddy who is having one of his best game of the season.
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Quincy was able to dominate down like it wasn't like this was a game where this was 45 to 43 or something like the other guys were scoring and Jim Boeheim and the Syracuse team just kind of decided that doesn't matter.
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We're gonna trust Elijah down the stretch, which I don't I don't hate, but it really did feel like with the game console Ping away and a lot I should happen in the ad game.
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You should have found somebody else to get the ball there.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like you said, you've got to carry a who? I don't think he ended with a double double, but he had, like, 10 and 8 10 and nine.
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Um, you had buddy over 20.
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You had Gerard putting in a decent shift.
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You had Merrick with 1 12? Um, yeah.
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Like there was There was people that knew what they were doing on offense this game.
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Elijah Elijah was not one of them.
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And yet we're still putting the ball in his hands, So yeah, I didn't want it.
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The game.
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What it's clumsy on Tuesday night, like that is probably this is probably the toughest game being played while on this heater.
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Disrespect anybody anybody played, but and that's including u V.
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A.
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Yeah, that is definitely better than you right now.
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I don't think that I don't think even you be a band's sorry, Caroline.
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Yeah, well, I mean, of, of all the UV fans, I know she's one of the least likely to defend that opinion.
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So she tends to be a much of a realist as we tend to be about our boys.
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So, um, yeah, it's gonna be, you know, it's a clumsy thing that knocked off Duke so that I had that same moment where I was like, Yeah, they know that doesn't mean anything. Never mind.
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I do appreciate that.
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Syracuse is big game.
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This year is the obviously do game, but they've pitched.
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The North Carolina game is just as equal inputting when now, in retrospect, to the North Carolina game is probably going to be one of the worst games.
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And they carried on this year.
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Yeah, but, you know, um, no offense to a good chunk of the fan base, but like, they're going to come out because, UNC, it's the name recognition, just like in the slight channel I was talking about with when we were talking over the football schedule.
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You've got Oh, that came out to you know, another thing this week because it seemed to actually be a big week.
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Um, there you go.
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But with the football schedule, like you've got the f S u game, which probably isn't going to be as hard or is meaningful game is Louisville game.
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But that's gonna be the one that people circled on their schedule just because it says Florida State.
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Yeah, it's Thursday night, Thursday night at the Dome.
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So have we had a Thursday night, a C C game at the Dome? I know we've had a Thursday night game on the road.
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There was the dumbest you lot of attack Thursday night games on the schedule in the past, but we had one at home in our time in the A C C.
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We've had We've had a bunch of Fridays.
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We might have had one Thursday.
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I'm trying to think back because I've had I've had season since, at least because I moved back in 09 I think we got seasons in 12 or 13.
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So pretty much the entire to the A C c Um, and by that I mean all of it because math is hard.
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Um, I'm pretty sure that we might have had one, but don't quote me on that.
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Yeah, it just It just seems like it's a tough sell, because, um, it's like regardless of primetime aspect of it is you're playing on Thursday night in a town that has a terrible parking situation.
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And there's a lot of different reasons why Thursday nights aren't necessarily conducive to what Syracuse does best.
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Ethical.
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Meanwhile, Friday nights, I know from experience that a lot of a staff, a lot of the people who work at the university just bring clothes to change into leave some of your office and they go straight to delegating.
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And that's why Friday nights I've always kind of been this rock this party atmosphere because he's got the entire staff of Syracuse University going to the game immediately after work.
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It just Friday nights fit a lot better than a Thursday night Well, and I'm really intrigued to see how they how they handle that photo state Thursday night game.
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Yeah, um, I got a hunch.
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I think having f issue will help it.
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You know, just the name recognition, whether or not the game.
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By that point, the schedule even means anything.
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Who knows, But, um, for either team.
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Yeah, So, Maria, it's it's crazy because I think that's that's the senior being right.
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That'll last home game of the season.
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Uh, yeah, I think so.
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Yeah. So, Bill.
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So I see we'll play that up as senior game even though, um, it's just gonna exist in a weird game like it's a little game I feel like is definitely the biggest game of the year.
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And I know that I mentioned this slack that I feel like quote five casting play.
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Nobody I want to use.
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I feel statements I'm not using.
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This is like objective reporting statements.
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I feel like the S U along my office and s you as a whole will make that homecoming because that's the cortical biggest game on schedule in September, October.
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And in the past, they've wanted foreign central homecoming, whatever you wanna call it to always be the biggest weekend.
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Yeah, they have big attendance when in reality, I feel like s you should hide that came up as the big game and then make homecoming the Liberty game, which no one will go to If Syracuse loses that Louisville game, which in all honesty, they probably will, and then they'll choose the next week and clumsy.
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And then all the sudden you're going The Liberty game looking at 25,000.
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The dome, because s huge has lost two in a row.
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Two teams in your division and they're gonna be out of the Atlantic race.
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Yeah, so for anyone who hasn't seen it, season starts at BC at Rutgers.
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So two games on the road again.
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Because, you know, at least this one makes sense because, well, this one actually at least makes sense because of the dome renovations.
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Um, and they made that apparent, I think, less fall early winter.
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They came out and made a statement of, you know, yes, we're going to have to again.
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Last year was an anomaly, this year's on purpose type thing.
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So men home against Colgate, uh, at the Western Michigan Broncos, Everybody's favorite directional Michigan.
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Um, uh, boy And then, uh, Louisville and Liberty at home.
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All sorts of birds there away at Clemson, home against Georgia Tech, away at Wake and then NC State in Florida State at home and then pitch on the road.
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So it's it's a weird It's a weird sleep.
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I mean, you should come out of that for no start.
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Ideally, you know B.
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C.
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Post, as without a running back, will be a much easier ask.
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Yeah, so you know it is what it is.
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Shannon's not gonna able to turn that trash can for your around in a year.
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No.
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So Colgate's Colgate and Western Michigan's Western Michigan.
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So I know it all honesty.
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The Rutgers game will end up being a home game like I'm in a lot of communications with people in the area like that.
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Game will not be a records on game.
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It's gonna be a certain sum game for all intents and purposes.
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And I think that the coaching staff should have a team ready in a lot better way than they were for Liberty last year, where that game was ugly.
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Is that so? Well, I don't hate the schedule.
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I don't love the schedule, either, because that Luke like that Louisville game is it so early is just gonna be a wake up call for so many people, right? It's a should they should start for no, and that Liberty game's gonna be their back and to you back into reality.
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And there's gonna be so many people out crying and saying, Oh my gosh, what's wrong with this thing? When in reality, yeah, this is This is kind of what we should have all expected And there's no, there's nothing terribly project about losing you and that's it.
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It's gonna be Louisville isn't a trap game.
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It's a Sam trap game.
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If that's a thing I think it is now, I think we could make it a thing.
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A CZ, my father said in my pre wedding speech.
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Let's make this a real thing.
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You just sitting there deadpan that were like, Yeah, I like that, um so like, it's one of those games where anyone who knows Louisville and knows the situation they're in and pays attention to college football is like place pays close attention, is going to see it and think, OK, you know, it's a game we're probably gonna lose.
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But Louisville for years was either a toss of game or a game.
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We should win and I think a lot of the fan base will still think that and that's the humanly wrong.
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But it's still a thing.
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So I got a hunch like you said that is going to be that game where everyone's like, Oh my God, how did we lose that game? And we might get beaten out of the frickin dome.
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So loo loopholes returned most of their team that beat us by 20.
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Um, and there's there's no inclination that they're getting worse.
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Scott Scott's our fields, and you know what the hell he's doing.
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So yeah, I don't see.
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And that's my biggest worry at university and their marketing.
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And there everything is that they're going to turn this Louisville game into this big moment where they're going to see for no, they're going to see all this energy, and we're gonna have a very similar thing with plums and game, where you're basically seven team up for failure and you're essentially setting him up to go.
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We're going to give you this amazing stage that we know that you cannot capitalize on, and so therefore, we don't capitalize on it.
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We have a crutch to fall back and say, Well, you know, we weren't able to sell X number of tickets because they lost this one game and that's really unfortunate, and that's really stupid.
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But it is a thing that was uttered after the Clemson game this past year, where the clubs the game was this big marquee moment and s huge got around the building even though everybody that I talked to within the athletic department do that they were gonna get beat by clumsy everybody that I talk to you was heavily against the idea of making this clumsy game into something that it should have been it.
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Yeah, And that's always the academy between in the know and that minnow, Um, I like to think that in general, we try and look at things in the know.
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So let's keep that up.
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You know, speaking of being the know things, I like that Segway.
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However, prior we do have some people in the chat.
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I James, uh, James and Orange Truck.
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So I didn't realize that we had um Oh, God, yeah.
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We're like a Like I said the champ, we're still trying to figure this thing out.
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So, um, talk more.
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Basketball is Isn't that your alley, James? Like we can, We can We can always have you on, you know, make this a three or four way conversation, but better things.
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The inn for ah, for checks reference and in response to James's latest question, telly tenders do rank number one worldwide.
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There's, I don't think there's any question about this.
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So sorry about that for my bachelor party.
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If this past year was in Pittsburgh, I live in New York City, and the easiest way to get from New York City of Pittsburgh basically involves driving.
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Kind of threw around the Scranton area and then jumping on the Pennsylvania Turnpike.
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And my guys that I was driving to Pittsburgh with decided to take a 45 minute detour.
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Thio, uh, forget with the name of the exit is but where there's a Tony's outside of Scranton 45 minutes out of the way.
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Just go tell it on the way there and back.
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I feel like that. That'll make Chuck proud.
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I wish I could shut out the exact location and branch of the telly's, but it waas fantastic, and it is the most Syracuse thing ever that you've got a bunch of 20 something guys rolling up on their way to and on their way back from a bachelor party to Tully's with the sole excuse of this is the best food we're gonna get on the drive between Pennsylvania and New Jersey, New York.
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So, yes, still, EastEnders are the absolute best.
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Nice.
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And for the record, James on the beer front, uh, Burlington Future Glow, which is one of their Session I P.
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A's and Aurora Vermont trips, which is one of their i p A's with Centennial, Columbus, Amarillo and Simcoe hops.
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So New York City H 20 Because I drink a lot of flower power earlier today.
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So that's that's Yep.
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So, um, for the record, by the way, if anyone hears anything weird, that sounds like a small crank child.
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My mom, a baby monitor, is near the mic, so I apologize ahead of time.
00:19:23
That's just the kid talking, knowing that we're about to talk about Syracuse football defensive side of the ball.
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Yeah, but before we get there that thank you for reminding me about the stuff earlier today, I tweeted out asking personal questions and naturally, Kevin Wall, the creator of the Jim Boeheim, back a toss a jacket cross a t m.
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He is straight marking that now everybody who may be interested in a copying that information from the jacket.
00:19:51
John Straker, Kevin asked about the offensive line last two games, being vindicated for success and kind of jumping off that frying pan Wash.
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Who's very Twitter followers and active, got news board, basically said that he feels really optimistic because of Bergeron, and he's wondering if that's a wrong feeling and it will be burned by that season.
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Which is the crux Syracuse response, Which is always worry that your happiness will be cashed by disappointment, but as the offensive line guru way haven't really got into it a whole lot because we didn't know exactly what's going on the offensive side of the ball.
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But it looks like the coaching staff on the offense has been settled down.
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It's been sorted out.
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Do you think that with everything that happened to Sox season, the Syracuse offensive line will continue to t l D r m? That Yes, um, if you want me to get into the weeds on it Uh, yes.
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And, um, basically, when you look a TTE post ran Alexander and the ships that were made and what happened? Um, the inclusion of that Bergeron, who came out of Quebec, is a three star and is he played the last three games like a You know, at least a sop****re, like knew what he was doing, made a couple of rookie mistakes but in general came in and was able to, you know, take his takes place in the offense.
00:21:16
Um, the shift of service outside And more importantly, in my opinion, the shift of veteran low inside, um, and shoring up that center spot, which a CZ I think you and I know I talk with you and Kevin a lot about it, But, um, if you go back and watch the tape Ah, lot of the issue was the interaction between service and Dakota Davis and I was putting a lot of that blame on Dakota Davis.
00:21:41
A lot of those same things got short up when Veteran Low came in there, so I don't know if it was a Davis issue or a service and Davis issue or something.
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Service is still a very solid lineman.
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He may be better off a tackle.
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He may have worked great with Aaron Roberts and not as well with Dakota Davis.
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So, you know, for one reason or another, it wasn't working.
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The shift made it work, and if you look at the either the stats or just in general passenger look test.
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Um, for the last three three, probably four, because I believe it was four games that, uh, since the birds around switch and then the week after the birds around switch after l example of the program, um, was the move to the guard tackle switch between veteran and service.
00:22:37
Once they got that final alignment, things really turned around.
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We were able to run to run the ball a lot better.
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We were able to protect the ball or protect the quarterback a lot better.
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Um, you know, it really turned things around, so I'll take that any any day of the week.
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And if these kids can keep improving, you know, service will be a Richard Sr.
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Um I think Evan Adams will be the only loss we have, which we can slot in if Sam Heckle is healthy.
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I still think I mentioned last time way, haven't heard anything about him.
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So whether he is healthy or it's something that is going to just keep pushing him out, um, who knows? But whatever it is, you know, he's a He's a serviceable option or, you know, Pat Davis came in a couple of times.
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He can play the role as well, so we'll see what happens there.
00:23:31
We've also got dearest his Dale.
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Who was that grad transfer? Um, so you know, there's there's plenty of bodies there and to replace one person on the offensive line versus effectively, you know? Yes, we had five guys returning with experience, but not in the experience in the positions they were in.
00:23:51
So it's so it's a lot different situation.
00:23:55
Yeah, I guess, um, with two big things that I want to take out of this are, from a process standpoint, why Alexander was rushed into being a starter.
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I know the plan was never for him to start right away.
00:24:10
They going into that season over against Liberty, that the plan was never for him to be on the offensive line right out the gate.
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I think I think the staff I want to give the staff credit for at least realizing off the jump that he probably wasn't a C C.
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Material from day one.
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You probably need to be a gradual ramp up to that and the other the other party is going that, you know, it doesn't matter, kind of from an offensive line standpoint, so much of it is how you work as a unit rather than have work individually on like, a lot of other positions.
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And I think you kind of hit the nail on the head that something happened.
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No disrespect to anybody on that line when they were doing what they were doing to kind of make things work.
00:24:54
But there was.
00:24:56
There was definitely something going on between the code Davis and the rest of the offensive line that either they were leaving him out of an island because of miscommunication or intentional, and it made him look like a weak link when in reality there was an overall communication issue with line.
00:25:13
And in those last three games this season, that got smoothed over.
00:25:18
And my hope is that whatever the underlying issue, Waas is now resolved so you could go into that plug and play system of all right While this guy's going down, we're trying to play seven Adams.
00:25:30
We need to plug somebody else in, but at least we know now not to force X y and Z right, and we do also have a couple more, um, become more layers of depth at specific positions.
00:25:42
So you know we'll be able to who plugged the next guardian and guard play the next tackling a tackle.
00:25:48
I mean it.
00:25:51
As weird as it had, is weird.
00:25:52
As it sounds, it does matter.
00:25:54
And as someone who like I was what I played in college, I was the six man in like at Guard center attack.
00:26:03
Ally was the backup and much like we were talking, I know I played better with some players.
00:26:09
I played worse with others like there's there's a distinct differences to how you play with which personnel.
00:26:16
So, um, it'll be It'll be interesting to see once we can move this into getting guards for guards, getting tackles for tackles, getting centers for centers where that'll go.
00:26:28
So I think, uh, I think I have, ah, a little bit of ah promise for for the upcoming season, for the old line from a position of weakness moving to possibly a position of strength there, I say I ultimately it all starts and stops with the defensive line.
00:26:46
I mean, this.
00:26:47
This year's offensive line was probably one of the worst that Dino Babers has ever had, period.
00:26:52
Um, and he was still able to win the second most amount of games.
00:26:56
That he's everyone in Syracuse, which I know is a very backhanded compliment in itself.
00:27:01
But the there is enough talent on the offensive side of the roster to overcome a really terrible offensive line.
00:27:09
A good offensive line could carry this team to a bowl game with relative ease based on schedule that's laid out in front of us on.
00:27:17
I think that's all anybody wants for this year.
00:27:19
Is that you know, I think everybody kind of learned their lesson about expecting the 10 winds just because the schedule looks bad at being while we're We're at a point now where get the six wins when that six wind comes will determine what our expectations are for the rest of the season.
00:27:38
And I, at this point and thoroughly going to the season of just get to a bowl game will probably play in New York City.
00:27:45
It'll be fine.
00:27:46
It'll be whatever.
00:27:47
But they need that bowl game. They need those extra wraps.
00:27:50
Going into 2021 2021 is the season where we're looking at a love underclassmen becoming upperclassmen and making that jump right And, you know, outside of 100 Cisco who will be gone after this year like I have no excursions, that he's staying anywhere because the kids just that **** good.
00:28:13
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:28:15
Um, and I mean, he's He's showing up on a pre season all American masters like he's the kids.
00:28:22
Kids gonna be good.
00:28:23
So, um, he's got the body he's got.
00:28:27
He's got everything to be a safety at the next level.
00:28:29
So, you know, well, more power to him, you know? Can't can't really much like people always complain about players going one and done.
00:28:40
There was not from the basketball side.
00:28:42
If someone's good enough to go from the football side as a junior CIA like, I would love you to come back.
00:28:48
But make your money.
00:28:55
Chan.
00:28:57
It was Chandler.
00:28:58
First.
00:28:59
I thought he was a second round.
00:29:00
I know.
00:29:01
He was the last pick in the first round of the Patriots, wasn't it? Yeah, I think so.
00:29:04
So, I mean, it's not like Syracuse first rounders come all that often, and the fact that this guy will be a Dino Babers in and out.
00:29:15
Yeah, I think I think says a lot.
00:29:17
That's and he's a New York in two.
00:29:19
Like for all the crap that everybody gives, you know about not being able to recruit New York or whatever.
00:29:25
You know, Cisco's in a New York State kid that I got was recorded and enough, it's Syracuse.
00:29:30
I'll take that any day now.
00:29:33
You know? He he lended him.
00:29:36
He lended Mahar who was this year who was a solid, uh, New York prospect at Rochester.
00:29:42
So you know, there's kids that air willing to come and play for Dina, which that's kind of what we've been hoping since the beginning.
00:29:51
So we'll see how that goes.
00:29:54
I mean, this is another wonderful transition Right now.
00:29:57
We're talking about kids who want to come and play for Dino.
00:30:00
Let's talk about National Signing Day.
00:30:02
That's the thing that's happening very soon.
00:30:04
You know what? We got two weeks until that week and 1/2.
00:30:07
We can I Tuesday.
00:30:08
Yeah, it's weird because I know that I know not everybody is into it, But podcasting played.
00:30:16
Nobody is one of my constant rotations of the banner Society broadcast network.
00:30:21
They they talked about a while ago about how early signing day has basically become national signing day.
00:30:28
Coaches are basically going to recruit and saying, If you don't want to sign on early, signing day like you're probably not worthy of this program X, y and z on.
00:30:38
So for a lot of the lower talented kids, the stars of below You signed on early signing game, but it's the four of the five stars who actually have some leverage could drag it on out.
00:30:49
Or in Syracuse, this case.
00:30:51
We got some late bloomers and there's a couple of guys that are it seemed to be being moved by Syracuse.
00:31:00
One of the big ones is Qari Wiggles, defensive end out of Atlanta, Georgia.
00:31:04
We want just because we want a guy writing with Yukari Wiggles.
00:31:08
All name. Team 2020.
00:31:10
He would be fantastic, and his teammate Toronto Jones are both out of high school in Atlanta.
00:31:16
Syracuse just recently made them a visit down down there, they're trying to kind of blew them away from Georgia Tech.
00:31:23
I It seems like that would be a big coup for the orange.
00:31:27
There's not a ton of other.
00:31:29
There's there's a few other players that will get into whose Syracuse seems into.
00:31:32
But the idea that Syracuse, regardless of what they do on defense, which will handle a little bit getting a six to defensive end and a six to defense of back seem like a really great gets out of Atlanta for the orange, just based off of the town of profiling based off of the hub that exists in Atlanta holes, they both would work better in that 335 Uh, but they could be.
00:32:01
I mean, yeah, well, hold that one, but yeah, coming out of, uh, early signing day cues according to 24 7 is, um, 59th nationally, 12th in the A C.
00:32:12
C.
00:32:13
Which ballpark where we've been.
00:32:15
Um, that's also, you know, we've got not counting into that would be transferred.
00:32:22
Chris Blake, which big guy from Florida coming to Syracuse so offensive guard transfer was a starting offensive guard in Syria.
00:32:36
Florida will be coming in not eligible this year, but will be eligible the following year, so we'll see how that goes.
00:32:43
He's not counting towards the recruiting class.
00:32:46
We also at present outside of those who have signed, including all named team Maximilian Mango from Germany.
00:32:54
Uh, yeah.
00:32:56
Uh, if nothing else, you know, between him and wiggles, Mannion wiggles.
00:33:00
That's that's just that's gold right there that if you want, if you want news content, we've got news content.
00:33:07
Uh, but the the other The other big thing coming from National Signing Day Moving into coming from a really exciting big movie international Sunday There we go is Chase Atkinson, who's a safety who committed and was holding out until committed.
00:33:26
I believe, like August dish, if I remember right.
00:33:30
But he he's holding out until the full like the actual national signing day.
00:33:36
I can remember he had some reason that he wanted to do, But, um so he's still still honor, you know, commits list but hasn't signed.
00:33:45
So I guess he's the first.
00:33:47
The first of the people that air potentially going to sign on national signing day.
00:33:52
Yeah, I think the Atkinson's a great would be a great get just a kind of shore up and remind everybody that you know this.
00:33:59
This staff has been working hard even through all of the turnover.
00:34:03
And I know that a lot of people are gonna get are gonna point out.
00:34:05
Antoine Reed is a kid from Brooklyn, which immediately is going to send up flags of We need to get this kid.
00:34:14
He's an offensive tackle.
00:34:15
He's six foot five, he's £326.
00:34:19
That that is, that is some size, right there are seen, if I've ever seen it.
00:34:24
Juco kid, right? Yes, he's from the college here, which is I don't wanna.
00:34:34
I see a lot of football takes place around here.
00:34:36
Just because I'm in a section of Brooklyn where there is a lot of call is.
00:34:40
There's a lot of fields out by me.
00:34:41
I'm able to see a lot of it.
00:34:43
You know the quality.
00:34:44
The quality is not off the standard of even New Jersey, but what your kid of that size and your Brooklyn.
00:34:51
There's a lot of people myself.
00:34:53
I fall into that that mentality as well.
00:34:57
Way need to get this guy.
00:34:58
It's it's imperative that Syracuse, as the New York school, gets these New York, it's yeah, and, uh, and these Antoine's commitment is not guaranteed.
00:35:10
It seems to still be very much up in the air that being said offensive tackle would be a great position to shore up.
00:35:18
But I'm not necessarily sure that if we don't get Antoine read, the offensive line is going to be screwed long term.
00:35:27
Or Sarah is.
00:35:28
Recruiting is going to be in that bad of shape.
00:35:30
We don't get this kid right now.
00:35:32
His his offer list also includes Florida State, Tennessee.
00:35:35
Uh, you may be marshalling you mess, so he's got some.
00:35:39
You got some decent programs looking at him.
00:35:42
So, uh, hey, if he wants to come north, I'm all for it.
00:35:47
Uh, especially coming off of next year.
00:35:51
You know that that service file will be open.
00:35:54
So whether it's him coming and taking it or could hear White actually turning into something, we'll see.
00:36:02
Yeah, I think I think that was the coated messaging that I was trying to get to.
00:36:07
But you know, Dear White was another one of these kids that was from the area that served.
00:36:11
You needed to get on.
00:36:13
He's currently wrong, but he has not seen the field in any bird in any action.
00:36:19
Believe is currently going to be a Richard sop****re and hasn't seen the field for anything at this point, you know? Yeah, he wasn't done, uh, was not field goal team or anything.
00:36:29
So yeah, and everybody was saying a kid that needs that's used to getting it right when in actuality, he's very, very large human being who's quite raw, right? I feel like I feel like any kid you're gonna get with that kind of size coming from New York City area if they're not playing in Jersey like that's that's gonna be their thing is that they're going to be raw.
00:36:55
If they were playing in New Jersey, they would be, you know, baby, either recruited all help or they would they be less raw, but less less heralded, right? Which is where we have kind of.
00:37:11
That's kind of where Syracuse is kinda made their mark on the, you know, Yeah, slightly more refined, a little raw, but you know, bumps and bound.
00:37:20
In that case, it bumps him down like a three star, and then we find them and turn them into something right, and I it's it's really unfortunate.
00:37:29
I know people only see like a four star in New York City, and they're like, Sarah, you should get this get.
00:37:35
It's not always in our best interest to get them because they're not going to be what you think that they will be down the road.
00:37:40
Right? Uh, overall disclaimer that the coaches actually know what they're doing.
00:37:46
Like when they're recruiting someone.
00:37:48
If they don't want someone, they're not going after them.
00:37:52
Conversely, if they're going after somebody, there's probably a reason for it.
00:37:56
And that leads us to Dylan Markowitz out of McKinley, Texas, who just he literally I think it's a tweet, like two days about two days ago.
00:38:12
And behold, he's scheduled this weekend, right? Yeah, it's been wild because the initial report waas Hey, there's this really good quarterback from Texas who's visiting Syracuse and hear of his high school staff, and his high school staffs are insane.
00:38:29
It's like 42 touchdown, six interceptions, 4000 yards looks like looks like Joe Gerard's high school stats.
00:38:39
But that was in Glens Falls, New York, right? It's this you've got You finally got this quarterback from a hotbed of talent, was putting up amazing numbers and he's interested in Syracuse and so naturally a lot of people went okay, so he's obviously being recruited by the Texas schools.
00:38:57
The the answer is no.
00:38:59
His only other credible offer is Texas State, which is a non D one football program and, say, Sarah visit Syracuse two days ago.
00:39:11
He got an offer from Syracuse two days ago, and he's across 2020 hits.
00:39:16
My assumption is that he's going to sign the Syracuse because we're his only one offer on, and it seems like it's a full time scholarship.
00:39:23
It's not this preferred walk on.
00:39:25
It is a full time offer to a Texas kid that nobody else is offering.
00:39:30
He has no stars on any recruiting site, and I think that there's a lot of people who are going This guy is a hidden gem of the Rockies.
00:39:41
Would be the next Eric done Jean And there are a lot of other people going.
00:39:45
This guy has no stars wise.
00:39:46
Stop wasting time on him.
00:39:48
Your point the staff is bringing in, they see something.
00:39:51
They wanted him.
00:39:53
Yeah, and I mean, we've talked about it before, even even if Kurt Martin doesn't return.
00:39:58
Uh, he's still got those connections, and he's still tight with Dino.
00:40:03
It might be a guy that him or he coach Texas High School football for E ends might be a guy that you know his people saw or he's got some connection to that tipped them off and said, Hey, nobody's looking at this kid.
00:40:16
Why don't you put some eyes on him? And if they don't like what he saw and do, you know, like what he saw? And I guess she said, you know, kind of ask you about this just from a football standpoint.
00:40:30
It's not totally uncommon for a kid who was really good to not go noticed because he's in a talent rich state or because he's in a space that's being so hyper Lee recruited.
00:40:42
He might not be as good as the guy in that he's playing against.
00:40:46
But he also happens to be to be pretty solid himself like this.
00:40:49
Oh, you know, I know when you're when you're in one of the hot beds.
00:40:54
It's a whole different ball game like, and he was playing what 5878 something like that.
00:41:00
He was playing a decent level of Texas football, but still, you know, if they're not on, um, and it's not that there's something wrong with him.
00:41:08
It's just maybe nobody noticed him, so they definitely have seen the film Autumn.
00:41:15
So if there's something there seeing that they like, then yeah, I'm I'm cautiously optimistic that there's not necessarily, but this kid is going to be prolific, Um, but if nothing else, this might be the guy to replace DeVito in the sense of Wei.
00:41:32
Have a transition thing.
00:41:33
We have a quarterback who's willing to take over fits.
00:41:36
The scheme fits the system.
00:41:38
While he might not be amazing or technically that DeVito Waas, he's going to be a solid transition option, which I think John mentioned in our Slapper slapper.
00:41:47
One time that Syracuse quarterbacks are are here, miss.
00:41:51
We either end up with a Ryan Nassib Eric Dungy level of this kid comes in.
00:41:57
It's a sop****re place three years and just becomes everything that we hope.
00:42:02
Dream or there's somewhere of non serviceable, not very good, and they're just not able to win any games on their own, which is a rather unfortunate spot to be.
00:42:13
And now that you're in the SEC and not in the Big East for every down, we'll make mad.
00:42:17
We haven't Andrew Robinson.
00:42:19
Yes, so um, actually is weird.
00:42:26
As it is, I went back and looked, you know, not to completely digress.
00:42:29
But when you look at from Marvin Graves the progression like you had Marvin Graves, Todd, Phil Cox, uh, can remember who came in after that was eager gains men. McNabb.
00:42:45
And it's just like you look at that stretch and then you look at the Perry Patterson Troy Nunes, uh, like going through that whole era that 10 year like that decade, first the nineties to the two thousands and then the 2000 ten's Nassib Dungy.
00:43:04
Yes, you've got some trail hunt and some other smatterings in there.
00:43:07
Yeah, but the 20 tents compared to the dots were a great, great, uh, hum A great year for quarterbacks.
00:43:20
Also, I don't know what a foam finger does, but awesome.
00:43:24
Thank you, saggy.
00:43:26
We just got some things.
00:43:28
It just exploded across my screen.
00:43:30
I don't know what it means, but it's awesome that we're doing a solid job, which is all that we can ever ask for on that on that quarterback thing, I think my favorite my favorite aspect of the whole of the whole quarterback tree at Syracuse is that we I don't want to take credit for it for use magician Exactly.
00:43:50
Wasn't me? But I do want a new addition to get credit for the fact that we are hyping up. That does.
00:43:56
Marone 85 Syracuse team that had a four way split of the Big East title bills has forever kind of, you know, his S and P numbers say that that was a top 30 squad in the century.
00:44:09
There's a lot of people kind of smart football.
00:44:12
People realize that that was Syracuse is peak right there on.
00:44:16
I feel like new condition is doing a better job of just constantly reminding people that team was freaking amazing.
00:44:23
It shouldn't have been waiting for.
00:44:25
They scheduled them.
00:44:26
As as John said, It is proof of what happens when you schedule yourself to death, and it's always, you know, last year is proof of what happens when the schedule runs your way.
00:44:36
So we'll know straight that two years ago I got we're still we're still in the 2019 cycle. For me.
00:44:45
I haven't fully switched over to 2020 football.
00:44:49
So the you know, if you, as far as what happened on the field if you flopped the records for those two teams, that's probably the reality of those two teams.
00:44:59
That is the sad truth right there.
00:45:02
****, Yeah, yeah, that that that NASA team should have been ranked and respected a lot more and actually should've been the one that finished the season ranked in the postseason poll.
00:45:13
Well, last year's team was definitely a man.
00:45:17
Their defense was so bad that s and p hated that someone? Yep.
00:45:23
And for as much as people will poo poo on, you know, advanced stats.
00:45:27
There's a reason that their salad metrics So they did.
00:45:31
They didn't they didn't like this year's team when everybody else wanted Thio and they ended up being more right that we were.
00:45:37
So speaking of bad defense is, uh, this year Syracuse defense doesn't currently have a coordinator.
00:45:45
No.
00:45:46
Zachary Net bounced after his portable cup of coffee at Syracuse.
00:45:53
Um, yeah, that won't hurt.
00:45:56
That was a lot to lose our net.
00:45:58
So, yes, I will.
00:46:01
100% say that it hurts, and I really wish Arnett was still here as a coordinator.
00:46:07
However, the silver lining on that is that we know wild heck is more than willing to throw out 900 k for a coordinator, which I don't think I ever would have thought in my life.
00:46:21
So, yeah, let's let's talk about that really quick because I think a lot of people are hyper focusing in on the idea that our net and this is a very Syracuse mentality.
00:46:33
They're hyper focusing in on the guy that had Syracuse willing to match the same amount of money and then decided, You know what? No, I don't wanna be in Syracuse.
00:46:42
I wanna be at Mississippi State, um, removing the SEC, removing the job from an it I think the largest thing is the aggressiveness upon which Wild Pack and the athletic department made it clear publicly that they were willing to pay SEC money for coordinator.
00:47:01
That's something that I've never seen this athletic department be so open about, really, that they're deflecting.
00:47:08
They're usually saying that we have financial constraints.
00:47:11
This is the first time that I've actively seen them going like, no, we have financial muscle to hold somebody down.
00:47:18
This guy just decided not to stay right When John openly said, we we offered to match it.
00:47:26
I was like my my job basically dropped.
00:47:29
It's like, Okay, you know, if you're gonna match 900 K than way, have no problem moving forward like we will find somebody the dino wants.
00:47:39
We will get someone, whoever's left.
00:47:41
So I mean, that that's relatively thin at this point, I would think, but you can probably still poach someone away.
00:47:49
Um, and there are a couple of people without jobs.
00:47:52
Still, Yeah, I think.
00:47:54
I think that's why there's been this.
00:47:57
I think a lot of people I know that when we posted the article about about the story of the comments were pretty, you know, all up in arms and everybody was losing their craft.
00:48:09
But the media reaction in general was pretty muted because of that nine K.
00:48:15
Everybody kind of realized like That's the money that Syracuse is want to throw around.
00:48:21
This isn't like building the spot is not going to be a problem.
00:48:25
Um, and all that note when you have dedicated throw around outside of poaching somebody from the SEC who is already making 900,000 there's not a whole lot of other jobs that are that are paying that amount for coordinator.
00:48:40
Yeah, it's, you know, sec, Big 10 some big 12 teams.
00:48:44
And that's it.
00:48:47
You know, outside of a Texas Ohio state in the S A C.
00:48:50
You're not seeing that right.
00:48:52
And it's crazy that Syracuse was going to give that to a quote unquote unproven defensive coordinator.
00:48:59
Not that Arnett wasn't qualified, but we're talking about a guy who was coaching defense in San Diego State.
00:49:05
We're not talking about a protege at a big, big school we're not talking about, you know, the next the hot, ***y coordinator.
00:49:13
For a moment, we're talking about a guy.
00:49:15
It was pretty much consistently under the radar, right? Until the last couple of I mean, he had, what, a top 25 defense last year.
00:49:23
But you also have to take into account the Mountain west he's playing against.
00:49:27
So, um, I think this year he kind of turned into that hot candidate, and Dino was gonna kind of have a bit of a coup and grabbing him.
00:49:38
But at the same time, you know? Yeah, there wasn't a whole lot of hype around a prior to that, So yeah, and so we're talking about this as we are loading up that for me, at least my personal.
00:49:54
I feel that Syracuse should be going after Charlie Strong pretty aggressively.
00:50:00
He's somebody that would be Charlie Strong is not gonna be the defensive coordinator at Syracuse for 10 years, but in this situation that Syracuse finds themselves in where they need a defensive coordinator.
00:50:12
Last minute for at least a year, Charlie Strong seemed like the perfect guy to come in.
00:50:17
Keep the 33335 scheme that they were going to move to attacked.
00:50:22
Um, and if he does a good job, awesome.
00:50:25
He's motivated to do a good job so I could get the next head coaching job, and then we can fill it in with somebody with more long term.
00:50:32
If he ends up doing a bad job.
00:50:34
Well, then at least we were able to say she everybody who's going you lost after a while.
00:50:38
Yeah, but we're bringing in Charlie Strong.
00:50:40
This guy who I would like to remind everybody beat Syracuse twice to save his job.
00:50:46
Yeah, and quite, um, quite profusely.
00:50:52
This looks we're not fun. Beat downs.
00:50:55
Um, but yeah, it's.
00:50:57
And when you look at strong for anyone who doesn't know Sterling Gilbert, the new offensive coordinator coach under Charlie Strong at Texas and USF.
00:51:08
Um, And then that will be.
00:51:13
I think that's That's the main connection.
00:51:15
But yeah, there's there's the unspoken connection of Dino and Charlie, one of the handful of black head coaches in Division one, Right? That's that is that's a very small fraternity that is very aware what everybody else is doing for black or better term.
00:51:37
And Syracuse And Charlie Strong was very much constantly in Syracuse is in radar.
00:51:43
They were always on.
00:51:44
He was always somehow, suddenly on schedule, and it always ended up being a pain in the ass.
00:51:50
Yeah, he it's almost like whether it was Louisville or us, eh? For wherever he was always somewhere in the vicinity of Syracuse and it sucked every time.
00:52:01
Yeah.
00:52:03
Um, yeah, Let's see, he was Florida text saying, I'm sitting Illinois. Florida.
00:52:08
Well, Miss Notre Dame for a while.
00:52:11
Yeah, uh, the Eastern U S. C.
00:52:14
He was a D. C. There.
00:52:16
Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida, Florida.
00:52:22
Well, and then, uh, What's that? No, the whole team, especially orjust I've got nightmares.
00:52:29
That was pre Lamar, but they were still destroying everybody.
00:52:32
Yeah, and then, ah, he ended up moment for mayor to the Texas gig.
00:52:38
And then, uh, at that point in 2016 is when he poached Gilbert from Phil Montgomery, who had hired Gilbert away from Babers at's Bowling Green and then had him for three years.
00:52:55
And then Gilbert got the head coaching gig at McNeese.
00:52:58
So, yeah, I mean the interwoven Web of If anybody ever wants to dive down coaching tree stuff, you will just you'll get lost like I've tried to do it a couple times, just like he did what with who and where.
00:53:13
Uh, so it's always interesting listening to people talk about it.
00:53:20
There's obviously a pretty large stigma of the coach's kid like the kid who ends up being a player and then ends up being a coach under his dad in some way, shape or form.
00:53:32
Kendall runs.
00:53:34
But in reality, uh, whatever guys you end up doing well with that ends up becoming almost worse than your own family.
00:53:42
Oh, it's you will.
00:53:43
You will bring them along wherever you go, regardless of what the qualifications are, and then when they start getting coached away and they end up being the guy that makes somebody else successful.
00:53:54
The whole thing depends on being very much.
00:53:56
You end up being a bunch.
00:53:57
I guess the goal is to always be a bunch of people's guy way when one of them being something you're always available.
00:54:04
Yeah, and that's They all seem to interweave somehow.
00:54:09
Like you look at the babies coaching tree itself and you have Montgomery who went off in the head coaching, and you now have Shawn Lewis.
00:54:18
And if you look at all the guys under them, you know, Mackey went with, uh with Lewis and did the whole like, there's this whole interwoven Marone now is tightened that because the Magi thing and the whole leg, who knows? It's all just it's interwoven, and it's gonna be It's gonna be really interesting.
00:54:38
Doug Marone is now detained for a warrior on the Jaguars.
00:54:42
I guarantee you that if our own ends up getting acquired this year and Dino Babers does not get to six wings, there is going to be a call to come back.
00:54:53
I, uh God, Yeah.
00:55:01
Hey, uh, I don't know.
00:55:04
I don't know.
00:55:07
Yeah.
00:55:08
Now it's It's the definition of now.
00:55:10
I can't unsee that.
00:55:11
So here we are.
00:55:14
So here we are.
00:55:15
At the end of our conversation, I feel like we cover it. A little bit of everything.
00:55:21
I feel like we were able to satiate everybody's burning questions that they had and ultimately is the This is for for nothing happening.
00:55:35
It was a really busy this week.
00:55:39
All you have the Syracuse basketball trying to maintain momentum, moving a second place in the conference against Duke, which, how dumb does that sound? If you had told me at the beginning of this season that Syracuse, going into the Duke game would be contending for second place in the conference, I wouldn't have said that you were crazy.
00:56:00
But if you had told me that being doing so, Syracuse would not want a nonconference game against a tournament team, I I would've looked at you like an alien from outer space because nothing about this season makes any kind of logical sense, except for the fact that you now have the context of the rest of these easy being right.
00:56:22
If you could have, if you told me at the beginning of the season two different scenarios.
00:56:26
Syracuse is 13 and seven in the second week of a species here in the like going into February and a sissy play, like, if it's our overall record, you would have been like, Okay, that kind of sucks.
00:56:36
And we're kind of like the bottom of the SEC.
00:56:40
And then if you'd have said hypothetically, we're going to be in second after this week.
00:56:45
If we actually win games going into same time, period.
00:56:51
You're just, like what? No, that's not gonna happen.
00:56:54
And yet we're here. We're here.
00:56:57
Yeah.
00:56:58
So, yeah, I mean, I mean, we live in 2019.
00:57:04
This is the weirdest time yet far away.
00:57:07
We've have we I think we may have reached Earth 44.
00:57:11
I feel like a record 42 right now.
00:57:16
Like we're we're dangerously close.
00:57:18
There's just a couple of things breaking one way or the other to bring us there before their ugo.
00:57:23
But we're not.
00:57:24
We're not that far off.
00:57:26
Um, which is which is terrifying to think about it about **** you got there.
00:57:32
You call the book Syracuse sports fans, which we overlap into that territory.
00:57:38
So always pleasure.
00:57:47
Well, I have a two year old.
00:57:48
So this is where my Saturday nights lie so well, I hope that you see, that's have a wonderful night dreaming Syracuse defensive 335 schemes.

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