I knew that we work for the athletic, so people may think I'm biased, but this signs dealing scandal.
To me, this is the most enjoyable sports story that I've had that doesn't involve, like one of my teams winning in a while.
Have you been following the latest today about the sign stealing? No, I'll just I'll tell you this, and I think you're gonna be on board.
But I don't even know what you're talking about.
The signs telling.
What you talking about? What? What? Why am I always I don't follow.
I don't do I've haven't catch you up.
Get you a sports story of the century.
Um, do you know that the Astros fired their general manager in their manager? No.
Do you know that the metsmanager mutually parted ways with the team and you know, the Red Sox ride there? I know.
I saw the Garrett Cole.
A person, a picture signed with the Yankees.
That's what I said.
That's the That's the latest baseball news I have for you. Okay.
Ken Rosenthal and Evan drill itch because they pronounced the same, but it could be really wrong of the athletic on November 14th they think there was their initial story, which would have been just after the World Series reported that the Astros were using, uh, like an illegal camera feed to a camera, a fixed rate at the opposing catcher to steal the catcher signs.
And what they would do is they would players from the Astros if they saw that the pitch was a curveball, would begin to bang a trash can.
That the hitter would know a curveball was coming and that if he didn't bang a trash can, it would be a fastball, curveball, slider, whatever.
Any breaking ball pitch would be. The bag.
So that is, that is, against the rules of science.
That's way far past.
The boundary of languages was, anyways, fast forward to basically, I think this week the commissioner put out a report that said, Yes, this was happening.
Yes, things were happening.
The manager for the Asher's and the general manager both get fired.
The who have won World Series.
The manager of the Red Sox got fired, who's won a World Series, and the newly hired manager of the Mets, Carlos Beltran, who was a player during this issue, just mutually decided to mutually agreed to part ways.
And what the best part about the scandal is that there's There's a couple of people on Twitter who have been pulling out video from various Astros games with like, you could hear them banging, Ah, trash can.
In the background of a broadcast, you can hear the trash can baying.
So you get like all these great videos today, someone purporting to be close, Beltran's niece put out like this. Crazy.
Not this guy won't say crazy, but there's really interesting development, claiming that certain Astros players had sensors on their right shoulder that would buzz whenever curveball, pitch or curveball, slider, whatever would be coming.
So instead of being a trashcan, they would literally get a like a little buzz so they would know and think.
This lease alleged niece has been confirmed, not a niece of the the Astros.
Uh, now that Iniesta Carlos Beltran.
But various players have come out to say, including Trevor Bauer, who is a former may want to Cy Young but All star pitcher.
And since I have heard the same thing, multiple people have come out said, I've heard the same thing.
And there's no video out there of Astros players.
Like with their shirt off, and you can see there's like a tiny sensor thing on their shoulder.
So this is a little we didn't know about before.
It's just like it's just a beautiful.
That sounds good.
Um, before we lose everybody, let's get into this show.
Mike, what do you say? Sorry.
Um all right, I'll just jump in there.
Were you OK with Kyrie? And I'm not okay with Carrie, and I want to talk about it.
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Brian, which nets are going to be back? Yeah, that Kyrie is saying the things that he's saying.
Um gosh, you really stepped in it this time.
Like, you know, we've been We've been here he did, he did.
I say we It feels like the way that I've been have been advocating for him feels like it's This is our team, Team Kyrie, and we're on it.
Um, it's having a bad P R day for sure.
Um, Mike, why did he do this? Why did he choose this time? He didn't need to do it.
There's no ive Toss it around my most I put through the Kyrie Kaleidoscope bull**** kaleidoscope trying to come out with something rose colored and all it is is that duty brown all the way through and I don't know how to explain it.
Mike, I don't know why someone would self immolate in the media on so needlessly the way that he's done tell may explain, Well, give me your thoughts about that quote that he said, How about I do this? I'm gonna play the cut in the business.
We call it a cut.
What? Kyrie said, I'll play the 32nd sound bite will come out of it and then I want to I want you to be unleashed out of the cage and just give your thoughts.
But here first is Kyrie Irving in his own words after the 70 Sixers game, a game in which the Nets had the lead going to the fourth quarter.
And, of course, they lost.
Here's what Kyrie Irving had to say after that game, glaring in terms of the pieces that we need.
In order for us to be at that next level, I'm not continue to reiterate it.
You know, we're gonna do the best with the guys that we have within our locker room now.
And you know, we worry about all the other stuff in terms of moving pieces, and everything else has the organization down the line and summer.
And, you know, it's just something that we signed up for.
We knew what we were coming into the beginning of the season.
Guys were going down, left and right for us collectively after, like, we have three pieces.
But obviously it's pretty glaring at me.
One more piece for two more pieces that will complement myself caving D J G C Span's caress and we'll see how that evolves.
God, Lord! Uh, okay.
So as you illustrated, we've been pro Kyrie.
We've been steadfast that believe even when stories were coming out to begin the season that Kyrie wouldn't take office had in China.
We stood by Kyrie and then, as stories continue of like, I think it was a Jackie MacMullan piece that also the Kyrie China had situation, the China syndrome.
But it also then I had another element about like people in Brooklyn are saying What's the deal with this guy? And then we've gone on.
We've defended him, defended him.
Kyrie comes back during high res injury.
It was like, doesn't even want to come back.
We defend, We defended, we defend and and I had not seen any evidence up into this point to feel differently.
And what we then get is that quote, which we just played.
And it's just about the worst thing you could Dio.
If you're trying to come back into a team and trying to rally a team for a strong playoff push to finish the last half of the season to literally name the guys that you like and then say we need other dudes, he really other guy, he really glad crossed all this.
Tea's dotted all the lower case J's.
There's no it's like incontrovertible.
You can't contort out of this thing like you meant that you want tea trading some of your players for a better player.
That's what you said.
I mean, I was just looking for ways like, you know, my just trying to be like I just don't think, you know, if I was the guy on the hook for this like I was the deal that got in trouble at school or whatever what I would say to the principle, it's like, No, I didn't say I didn't mean like that Is he? Is he In every instance he doubled down on each of those things in the summer.
Name, the names, all that like just in every instance he buried himself deeper and deeper, and I wonder if it was just like am I, uh am I am having diarrhea of the mouth right now and I can't stop myself.
Is there is like, I don't understand what there is to be gained from any of this, Um, other than just like I'm in a moment of, like, social anxiety vortex and I'm and I'm flailing.
I don't like that's all I could explain or he's just like, actually, I know I'm looking at the video.
Right now, he's super poised and calm and totally is smiling, always saying it.
He genuinely doesn't realize what he's saying would be taken like this like it's a horrified and he would.
He's like, Why? Why? Oh, everyone's horrified this.
I had no idea you and so and everyone has said this right.
But that, like nothing Kyrie said, was incorrect.
Yes, this team does need another piece and something that we have talked about consistently.
That this team, you know, once Katie comes back and wants Kyrie is on the floor, you know it's gonna be a pretty nice team.
But if you got one more guy, 1/3 star to go with, um, you're looking at a real like championship level shot every season.
Those three stars air together.
So like nothing he has said is incorrect.
But it is, um, it is shades of what happened with LeBron last season on the Lakers, which is obviously LeBron.
I think he may have come out and said basically as much about his team's, but he didn't go this far, but his agent and through reporting from various other people that LeBron basically threw the young players under the bus and and wanted Anthony Davis and couldn't get him at that time.
And LeBron, ruined last season with Lakers because of his desire to create a championship roster immediately, as opposed to having patients with Kyrie is doing is the same thing.
Because if I am Jared Allen, if I'm Joe Harris, I'm sitting here thinking and Taurean Prince.
But I don't know a Taurean Prince is really thinking this way.
I'm saying you're thinking what the f dude like What the hell, man, you just you just put out there.
You literally named the players.
It wasn't like he talked in generalities about, you know, we have the established veterans on the roster and our core pieces, but I think we should do.
We need to get another piece in here.
No, He literally named himself Kevin Durant, DeAndre Jordan, Garrett Temple, Spencer Dinwiddie and Caris Levert.
Those are the people he names of people that were named and Wilson Chandler.
But he rattled to that list so fast it could have been anyone it felt like other than like, other than DeAndre Jordan, Kevin Durant.
I mean the fact that Garrett temples.
Name is tossed in There is and like very high up with Garrett Temple.
Yeah, how does one account for that? Um, I was actually I found myself after, like going like listening to that list.
I was like, Okay, so who are Kevin Durant's friends and who are Kyrie Irving? Look, I just want to like who's who really like other buddies with, because those were definitely just feeling I'm feeling their weight of their politics, moving management towards whoever that is.
That's That's the North Star.
Um, so if anyone in chat you can you can help figure that out.
We could do some like Instagram sleeping on that or whatever.
Yeah, because if you're really going by pure basketball tone and I think you and I have both, like, DeAndre Jordan this season, more than a lot of people, especially going into the season, we were supporters of down to Jordan and he has played pretty well, particularly as a backup center.
But like if you're being a cold, calculating basketball mind of how we can improve this roster if I'm Kyrie Irving, really, why don't we trade this aging center who's making $10 million a year for someone who is probably more useful at the end of games when we really would need extra.
Because they, you know, this came off the 70 Sixers game, another loss where the Nets had the lead in the fourth quarter and they put up a statue in the ESPN broadcast.
About that, the Nets are essentially the worst team in the N B A.
This season in the 1st 4th quarter in terms of, UM, offensive efficiency or something, and then in terms of plus minus whatever.
So the Nets are very bad in the first quarter, which is what we understand.
It's not that unexpected because they haven't had Kyrie Irving and they also have a net caress.
Avert has basically been Spencer didn't want your bust for the most part, and that's tough to sustain over the final quarter of a game.
But it's, um, you want to defend Kyrie, right? You want to be like not to be deal, and you don't have seen reporters come out here reporters to cover the team, Stefan Bondy being one of them who tweeted out like Kyrie was having a conversation with us.
He was just being honest and that he he wasn't He didn't just come out of nowhere and just say we need to make a trade.
He was asked specifically about Whatmore.
This team needs to get to the level that it wants to get Thio.
But in no way should these things again about a situation.
We're like, You're coming back into the team.
You're back on the basketball court.
Your role as a point guard is to elevate the play of everyone else.
And what you're doing is you're making a line of demarcation on the roster saying thes seven dudes air cool All you else.
You all are boring and losers and I want to trade you and we want to get better in basketball.
The roster is so small that if you begin to list people on the roster that you like, clearly lays out who you don't like, Uh, you should just named the people look that you don't like. It's the shorter list.
Just go ahead and just named.
I would love to be Oh, yeah, um, well, okay, so let's let's do it this way.
Steel Nets raises an interesting point.
He's in luck, shot uhm and says Yellow reading way too much into this.
And so there is a couple of things that we should mention with that line of thinking.
So I think it's important to create some separation between the practical effects of this like, Is Jared Allen gonna be massively but heard about this? Probably not.
He'll probably see it as like Oh, I don't know.
Kyrie talks for a lot of time in front of media, and he said some not so great stuff and like, buy him not mentioning my name.
Am I gonna take that as a personal slight? I don't know. I'll just go play.
Wow, that's what I'll do.
I'll just go, you know, load up my Overwatch and probably not think about this ever again.
Um, but the other version of that, the other portion of it is the PR landmine that Kyrie stepped on.
And that has a rippling effect in, you know, especially.
And I hate to say I hate to use the New York media medium, but people are, like, very keyed in Cairo is under a microscope right now, and PR wise, this is effectively Mitt Romney.
Hidden tape, 47% level PR misstep.
You know, this is really it's exactly that's your go to It's well, you know, I ain't so good.
It's because it's exactly what everyone thought about him.
Like it's just reaffirmed what everyone likes quietly believed but, like didn't have any proof of when he was like, Boom! There it is.
That's sort of why this Kyrie thing is so bad Because because it's that it's, you know, it's what everyone kind of suspected by Kyrie, either.
He's, like, blase about treating, you know, his his teammates, his trade chips and doesn't understand why they would be most about it.
Or, I mean, even further down the devil's advocate, exhibiting some kind of like his attempt.
It's a metal leadership where he's doing some tough love on people that he wants Thio to inspire to play better basketball.
I mean, that's that's the problem with these types of things guys, because, like probably not, and that's like painting the rosiest picture out of this whole thing.
And even still, I disagree with the with the mission there.
But But that's the best version of that which is already a bad version.
So and and this is shades of what the sort of the most damaging quote that he had last season while he was in Boston was particularly the moment when he came out and said that, you know, I talked to LeBron recently.
I apologized to him for our I acted as a young player because now, being a veteran on a team with young players, I can see that how, like young players can act stupidly a time.
So he didn't use the word stupidly.
But that was the the essence of what he said at the time in Boston, and immediately that was seen as like oh, crap, Kyrie like hates Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum like that was what came out of that quote.
And while the overall message of what Kyrie Irving was trying to say was that like, you know, I now realize how I acted in the past was wrong.
And as a veteran leader, I need to understand and adjust to younger players that's not held back.
What was taken in the same way that this quote, the overall feeling is that the Mets need Maur like if they're going to compete for championships, which is the reason why Kyrie Irving came to Brooklyn.
They need more, which is obvious.
But he does the same thing where he just continue.
This is who he is.
So like, this isn't This is just the kind of guy that he is.
He just continues to say words and those work And you don't even do that tight stem a shy section.
This is a rotisserie chicken that you're breaking in half and you're realizing half of it is I don't know, healthy and not that way made carrots, already talking about its roots and avocado Oh my God! Oh my Lord, you know, And there's like the bad parts of the avocado of the good parts of the old.
I thought I was cutting a rotisserie chicken and 1/2 and it turned out to be an avocado.
Everyone, everyone gets that, but because okay, so there's when there's a store on the team.
There is a certain amount of pressure that star puts on the franchise to be good immediately to put all the resources that franchise has to make the team as good as it could be, Possibly immediately.
LeBron wanted that in Cleveland when they had our pick the Nets pick.
LeBron wanted the calves to trade that pick for a player.
So Bronco on one last finals winning run with the Cavs, and maybe that would have helped him decide whether to re sign with Cleveland.
This is the very recently right before he went to the Lakers that the Calves wouldn't do it, because the Cavs ultimately knew that LeBron would never guarantee that he would stay in Cleveland.
Kyrie is a star who, if he had said this, if he had said, We need one more player, we have some assets of which to trade.
We have draft picks of our own.
Which draft picks coming up? We would, you know, we should invest those draft picks in the trade market to bring back a piece that could help us right now.
Then that becomes okay.
Kyrie is like asking, That's management.
Not great, but again asking, That's management nation.
It puts pressure on Sean Marks and the rest of mats.
But what he did was he literally named the guys that he likes and then left off the guys.
Maybe he doesn't not like them.
Maybe he's fine with them, but my name of these guys is just such a bad look it.
And And here I was I had all these nice things to say about the game last night.
I was gonna do a whole lame silver lining thing about like, Spencer didn't witty and Tyree showing some evidence of being able to coexist nicely.
And now I can't No, I can't even say any of it like it's all I bundled.
Tomahawk dunk it 360 in the trash can set it on fire.
Um, Spencer did what he is on this team because, uh, Kyrie Irving has designated as one of the chosen people.
And Jared Allen and Joe Harris are the unchosen.
I mean, I'm thing with Joe Harris.
It may already be no amongst the team that he's like.
He may not come back or something like It already may be known among Kyrie Irving that, like Nets won't pay the amount of money that it will take to pay for Joe Harris.
So maybe that's kind of why we've heard a few Joe Harris trade whispers out there of n ba. Read it.
You know, I'm just a conspiracy Theories is what having Kyrie and your team does to you, it turns you into this weird sort of nebulous place that you're just like what is happening.
It's really it's not.
I know again I would urge everyone to actually watch the video.
You can find it on Twitter pretty easily of him saying these things.
So you're going to see, as Brian described a very relaxed Kai Reed, who you can tell he's engaging with the reporters in front of him.
This isn't like someone slumping at his locker complaining about the team and say, We need to make a trade because that also would have been a very weird.
It seems obvious that he doesn't know he's saying something that would be taken as badly as we're taking it right.
I mean, is that the bite? And to me, that means that he thinks it's it should be obvious.
I mean, he says, it's it's glaring, it's transparent.
It means that it should be obvious to all of us that this team does need to make a trade.
Now that's a whole another discussion that, you know, I would love to get into, which is like we kind of did this last pot during this week about the levels of the trade that the Nets could make this season.
But you know, Kyrie puts in there about how, um, in terms of moving pieces and everything else as an organization down the line in the summer.
So he even it's a recognition that it's unlikely that a deal would come like right now and be happening.
But I would also tell him that care silver.
It may be a part of the package or Spencer did when he may be a part of the package that would bring the additional piece.
I do wonder what else he wants.
Do you know, like, what position is he talked? That's why that's why I'm imploring Please anyone in twitch or periscope or SportsCastr dot com? Any of the places that were streaming to you of the hundreds of places were streaming to go do the deep dive on on Kyrie Irving or Kevin Durant's Instagram.
I'm sure that player will reveal himself in the comments.
Somewhere there will be some glad handing digital glad handing, glad handing, Um, that will and I couldn't even circle that name right there, and it's almost a sure thing that they're going to politick for that person to come on.
I mean, the name that immediately like there's there's some really high level guys that could be available on Bradley Beal is the biggest one we keep bringing up.
We'll bring him up.
Every Indian podcast that isn't a wizard's podcast brings him up as a trade target for that team because he is the best player on the worst team right now.
That isn't Devin Booker and the Sun's because Evan Booker, it just seems like the Sun's would never trade Devin Booker that they can't emotionally as an organization do that.
But the Wizards, you could understand wanting to do that because they could get a lot.
They could reset and do.
They haven't really reset in many years, so that would make sense.
And the Nets could very easily put a trade package together.
Let's go in between here.
I waken keep going on about Kylie's Let's not I don't want to.
Yeah, but if the Nets were to look put together to improve the team and they wanted to save all the valued pieces that Kyrie listed within his soliloquy, the people that are left off that list are Jared Allen and Joe Harris.
Joe Harris is expiring free agent, so he's not really much of a trade asset.
Wants to trade him this season to a contender for a first round pick.
I guess that's really moved.
But here's the thing if we love our Jared Allen so much and we love this Nets team so much and we want it maintain the culture that has been here and also appease Kyrie Irving's desire to improve the roster, which isn't a bad idea.
It's just you probably shouldn't say it if you're the star of the team, the Nets do.
You have a bunch of first round picks, and we have seen contenders this offseason.
This past offseason trade.
A decade of first round picks to get massive stars? Do we want to walk into another situation where the Nets are trading a Billy King level of first round picks to get this time's version of Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce? No, but there could be a trade out there with that.
Char Marks trades three first round picks for to get and to not have to give up Jared Allen and not give up all these other pieces to get someone who is an above average starter at maybe the three spot.
Oh, how terrible does that sound? What is the point of that? It sounds there.
It's so lateral.
This feels very lateral.
Anyways, I just also think and I hate to belabor this because we've been labouring it at this point.
Now we're going to start beating this dead horse.
But like this Stephen A.
Smith talk about this like, let's watch Kevin Durant play with Kyrie Irving.
Is that not worth seeing? Before we started trading selling it, I would like to see it at least a little bit.
Um, we And like, if Carrie kind of had left it as like, we just need one more piece as like a hinting towards Kevin Durant coming back.
I would have loved that quote.
I would've been like, Oh, crap.
Carrie Irving is like hinting that Kevin Durant may come back, you know, like we just need that one piece and we'll be okay, but no, he actually said one piece, maybe two pieces.
Like I would say, if you had a team of Spencer Dinwiddie, Kyrie Irving, Joe Harris, Kevin Durant and then Jared Allen or down to Jordan playing for you consistently that caress over coming off the bench.
E figured it out.
Here's the player that they trade for and all of this.
Everyone comes away from this feeling.
You know it is D'Angelo.
Russell, bring that bag. D'Angelo.
Russell, I get everybody in the chat.
Is going Thio have a little party? I don't know who you trade firm some combination of are just You said a second? Yeah, Orange wings territory in in.
And we're we're Gucci.
Um, yeah, I don't know. That's proving that could happen.
Mike, is there anything else going on in the world that we can talk about? Are there more angles to this that we need to cover what's gonna happen here? I think so.
Why don't I just do this? Holy cow.
Mike put you on a rocket.
Just send me all the way back.
Um, news around league and will continue to talk about the career.
Everything because they just keep coming up throughout this but dangerous Russell.
You mentioned D'Angelo Russell.
There's two distinct reports that came out today that has to do with Daniel Russell on one is interesting.
Maur for Nets fans, the other one's just more interesting for MBA fans.
The one that's interesting for Nets fans is Daniel Russell spoke to bleacher report.
He kind of gave the background story of signing with the Warriors, and he said, There's two things that is interesting to me within it.
And this is what he had to say about, like understanding why the Nets did what they did, which is saying about Digital Russell and signing Katie and Kyrie, Dangerous said.
I know if you have the opportunities and Katie and Kyrie as a GM, you gotta gamble with that. You got to do it.
It's nice to see that is that perspective.
And then he talked about the moment when his agent called him and said, Hey, I have this Max contract offer from the Golden State Warriors, and James Rosen said, I'm like, Why the f is you on the phone with me? Tell them yes and which is nice and but really, what I got out of the piece was like as much as D'Angelo.
Russell also got dragged through the mud At various times in his career, I missed.
I didn't miss that a little bit.
I know that you brought up the madman ****ogy between Mohawk Airlines and Pan Am right? That's the one.
Yeah, well, I think it's American Airlines.
Yeah, OK, but it's I've kind of missed, not the amount of negativity that surrounds having Kyrie Irving on your team.
That's Russell did for our pockets.
It's been amazing what you talking about.
Our numbers are through the roof, and we're the greatest Nets podcast there is, but she's kind of I kind of just like being this like lovable, though unthreatening team that Hades Angel Russell is the lead star and like he's a star of some kind.
But no one cared about him enough to be dissecting his quotes level that we do, even though, like again, not that much dissection is needed in Kyrie Irving, it's It's an avocado.
You just cut it right open that thing is what it is.
I think I think with one side's and avocado their centuries checking, you know, um, yeah, I mean, yes, it is tempting to want to go back to simpler times But Mike, you know, at the end of every season, in the simpler times is handwringing despair over your first round exit.
You know, that's you're just you're just setting that aside.
You're just saying I want to have more fun in the regular season than I do in the playoffs.
That's what that's doing.
Do you think this guy re quote will impact this season all whether it be a motivate Sean Marks to make a move? Or do you think it will, like, have a negative impact on Jared Allen and the people of the unnamed people? Probably not.
Probably won't move the needle.
Um, it'll like I wonder, here's the other thing is like Kyrie Irving kind of just like leaves, lets those takes the pain out of the hand grenade, chucks it into the room and just kind of walks out like, Is he gonna Does he need to address this on social media at the very least, or anything, or is he just gonna like whatever? Let the air come out of it? I have a sense.
What we're going to get is another.
Kyra's gonna speaking from the media because it's part of his obligation as a playing basketball player and they're going to ask him about.
There's gonna be some questions like, Have you talked to the players about what you said to us the other day? And he'll say something like, We don't have to talk. We're a family.
That's just who we like.
We all understand each other.
Everyone understood where I was coming from.
It was not meant to be an insult to anyone.
It'll be something like that.
Do you think you think he will actually address the media honest on this stupid thing? There's now that now he becomes the next press.
Availability has will become even more heightened because he laid out this turd of a quote in front of everyone.
It's It's just not.
I mean, this is just the thing that he's done over his career, which is he enjoys putting his opinion out there on certain matters, and he can't He doesn't have the filter.
That's not and you know, I enjoy that as a person who thinks sports should be fun.
I think it's more fun when you have people who are honest and so it's almost like you don't want to like crush him too much because you have to appreciate honesty.
But you as a person who also wants to see the Nets do well, this is not the thing that's gonna help him do well. It's not.
In no way does this help this season, and it makes it so.
I know this is like kind of an overreaction, but it almost makes it feel like, Oh, he already feels this way about this group of players and he's already talking about down the line of summer.
It's not, Ah, not a emboldening, Fielding, being Annette's follower.
But do I do? I think it's really gonna matter.
Probably not all that much like, I don't think it's going to shave three points per game off.
You know, they're average scoring because he insulted Jared Allen in some way.
And I mean, now I know on some level, Mike, you're loving this because you are a guy who loves to throw out crazy trade offers.
Now, people in shatter already playing ball with the other year, your cohorts, the people that see that eye on this there's there's really two kinds of people people that love trade machines on love, trade means of all kind and people that air legitimately offended by somebody who talks about trades, trading any of their players, they don't want to hear it.
So for those people who are gonna get offended by this apologies, get a service of some of these.
These bruise, um, Paul's, um, some of the names, uh, vooch brutish Gordon thes of the types of games the pink thrown out as our complimentary third, um, ones Aaron Gordon.
Aaron Gordon is the most this.
The name is popping up in Chad in a couple different platforms here.
Um, is that the complimentary piece of the future? Mike, if if we're in a world where we're, you know, getting rid of our Joe Harris is well, I will say so.
I think people also need to remember what the construction team will look like when Kevin Durant comes back.
So I don't know if Aaron Gordon super makes sense with Kevin Durant on the floor because you're probably gonna start Aaron Gordon at the end of the games.
That makes sense.
Does Durant plays the five essentially at the end of the games.
And then it's Aaron Gordon, whoever you Taurean Prince at three toe have spacing and then Spencer and Kyrie.
But for most of the game, you're not gonna play Durant all that much at center.
And then Aaron Gordon is not a small four.
He's he's should be closer to the rim.
He he can ball hand a little bit, of course, and he can distribute.
But like this space thing becomes really difficult at times.
If you have Aaron Gordon out there, um, kind of clogging things up, But I will say the magic, our team that seem quite intent on making the playoffs, and Aaron Gordon apparently has not been all that great this year in Orlando.
This contract is pretty nice.
And if there is one team that you could trade Joe Harris to, and you know I hate going on the Joe Harris trade route because I'm so I I think he's so valuable for this team, and I already called him the perfect player.
It's kind of kid he bit, but we're gonna go down the route.
Um, the magic would be the type of team that'd be like Will flip Aaron Gordon for a guy guy who we really don't want all that much anymore for Joe.
Here's this season to compete for the playoffs this season with Joe Harrison will try to convince him to stay because they desperately need someone like Joe Harris.
They desperately need shooting.
I mean, there are terrific offensive team at times, and if you have Joe Harris, you become much better.
The Nets probably become worse, but better in the long because Aaron Gordon is a better player than Joe Harris.
Like one on one basis.
But again, the construction of a team I'd rather have Joe Harris next to you, Kevin Durant.
It's very interesting.
Everyone everyone should check everything's of Joe Harris.
Aaron Gordon's numbers.
I wonder if my remembers listening Zach Lowe with Summer talking about like what Aaron Gordon should do, Which is to be more like a sort of Draymond Green sales game after Draymond Green.
At least statistically.
If he can't be a world class defender, um, which he could maybe who knows? Um, and he sort of done that a little bit.
It's not scoring as much.
I haven't checked his defensive stats, but he hasn't elevated those other.
There's assist numbers have gone down.
Those other things.
It's not a super compelling player to be chaser and orb on the other side of that could be time to by Low on Aaron Gordon.
I don't know. I could do with a real man.
That's also the thing is that he's 24 years old.
There will name it if you look at his lip and stats will name his defensive win.
Shares are much higher than its offensive, when shares and his D B P M is higher than his.
Now I'm saying all these these all these Akron letters because I don't really know what any of that means, but the D's are higher than the O's um, killer.
I think there would be enough interest, though him threw him throughout the week, that you would actually have to kind of give up something decent Joe Harris, plus something else for, um, for Aaron Gordon.
And again, it's like it's I would rather go riel big game hunting if you're going to go down this route of breaking up this core of a team that took you from the worst franchise in the N B.
A literal core of the team to becoming a team that was that was good enough to get Kevin Durant and carry Irving.
You have to think long and hard about whether you truly want to do that, to break up the culture that's happening.
It doesn't mean that Aaron Gordon's a bad guy or other guys.
We're bringing in our bad, bad guys in any way.
I'm gonna disturb the culture, but it just was like That's a That's a really that's like a real fork in the road moment that Sean Marks is gonna have to decide.
Now I think again, I think he is planning to make a trade.
I think he signed Taurean Prince knowing that he can trade him next this upcoming off season that, uh, frankly, Spencer did.
Woody's contract is very treatable and care so first contract is very treatable, so they have all the ability of the world to do it.
Um, man Kyrie just igniting.
Yeah, can't even we can't even stay on topic were just like it always comes back.
That's what that's what he's.
I mean, maybe he's a PR genius.
It's just great marketing, you know? Um, are so do you know, I don't think you.
You said if you do, you think he's going to address it? You think he's gonna try to clarify his remarks? Well, I don't really know.
Either way, I'm just trying to think if I would want that or if I would do that if I were him, I would maybe try to let it die on the vine.
Um, I think I would.
He should apologize.
No, I think I think you just let that I think you look that one die on the vine, and I just I don't know.
I think from honestly for my for my perspective, I think he might make it worse by trying to clarify.
And maybe he knows that I don't know.
Um, Well, yeah, there's that element to it to, um, to take into consideration.
You want you want to show you? Do you have any more Kyrie thoughts? I have two elements of news and I want to get in front of your face Committees.
A man called in other news up here.
The mayor toasted headline.
Um, may have seen this, Brian.
It was National Bagel Day this week, and I say bagel weirdly, I know I apologize to the world how you say it, but I do say it that way at the way.
You do that on purpose, and we all know why.
But okay, go ahead.
Like Mayor de Blasio, the mayor of New York City decided to weigh in.
Everyone has seen this tweet already.
It is lit a flame.
Uh, food Twitter, I guess.
Mayor de Blasio said New York City has the best bagels of the world. Perfect.
But our best bagel question Mark bagel hole in Park Slope.
Okay, so that part of tweet everyone really liked He said, No contest about that best.
Now here's this order.
Whole wheat, toasted extra cream cheese.
Now this immediately immediately infuriated New York City food Twitter.
All New Yorkers were up in arms over this because bagel whole bagel hole, who is a well known a bagel, established? It's a good one. I've been I've been there.
It's good, does not have a toaster.
What? That's the issue with, um, because Because he said it was toasted.
Yeah, and most people say, because a place like Big a Hole is making you a lot of fresh bagels.
You should not ever toast a fresh bag.
People are very and also extra cream cheese.
I mean, that's the most egregious part.
It's there's already everyone kind of already knows.
There's too much cream cheese on those things.
And and the flavor combination of just plain cream, just more plain cream.
Jeez, and a whole wheat bagel is offensive.
It offends my nature.
I will admit, I tried to conceptualize what that would taste like, and it's a really gross.
You're eating like a bagel in like, yeah, floating in a in a vat of cream.
She's the snow like Well, you know, like Jack Nicholson in Batman fell into that vat to turn into Joker.
That kind of that imagine sitting into that and that all being it was like a ah jalapeno cheddar cut some kind of dumb, like, flavorful cream cheese that you just got hooked on or like, even like clocks, blocks, cream cheese.
You know, um, I'm finally I'm or fine with that.
I mean, but even so at a flavor to it, you know, I'm saying, Yeah, so and also anything like So when you see the tweet, it just says it says whole wheat.
And for some reason, seeing it written out his whole wheat bothered me.
I don't know what it is.
It's like like I eat like I weet I eat whole wheat, everything.
But for some reason, like the home week felt foreign.
When you describe a big I guess it's a wheat bagel, but it just didn't feel right and toasted.
Okay, I'm gonna admit this, Brian.
I'm gonna say this here on this podcast.
I agree that even though a bagel is fresh, you should be allowed to toast it if you want.
I think it's different.
Toasting doesn't mean that you wanted hot.
It's because you want that, like, really extra layer of crunch.
So I do take issue with people out there what you want.
Oh, hey, Want some crushed? Go get yourself a pack of El Paso taco shells.
Mike, it's a bagel.
Okay? All right.
It's not supposed to be crunchy unless it's already, um, not fresh.
It's going stale, waiting to bring it back to life a little bit.
That's the only time you're supposed to toast that sucker.
This is like when you go to sushi places and they're like no soy sauce for you.
Okay? I want I'm want the soy like I'm want soy sauce.
When I dip in the sushi, there are bagels.
Bagels were improved by toasting them.
Now I also like a bagel that isn't toasted.
I'm very pan beggarly hand, Big pin ***ual bagel.
Sure, sure, sure.
But I I I will defend his honor.
Mayor de Blasio On this point that I think you can toast a fresh bag.
You can toast a fresh bagel.
It does not offend my senses.
I mean, you do recognize that you're Have you ever had this argument of other people like it? You're in the minority e Not that you're, you know, not appear for listing.
Like, you know, there's there's hope for you, I guess, although I do think also like getting a whole wheat bagel is lame.
Like if you're getting bagels like you're already getting 600 calories of bull****.
So, like, just just embrace that.
There's a there's a whole bunch of things wrong with it.
Um, what is the worst Bengal offense you have seen? Oh, my God I saw.
This is a real one.
That is when I was in Washington Heights.
Um, in the in the, um So there's this one place, which was a good bagel place, like, great person goes in.
She she gets a plain bagel.
He says, Can you scoop out the, um, like the white bread, the spongy part of the bagel on both sides? Fill that with mayo and then deli turkey.
So? So I have seen.
I mean, I've seen some real horror shows out there.
Um, that's true.
Oh, my Lord, that's a real thing that I saw.
I swear people don't believe it, but I swear I saw that.
Okay, I would never ask anyone to scoop out the spongy part of dinner's a bagel.
But it's actually pretty good if it's done for you.
The worst Bengal offense I've seen it is with my friend Alex.
So my wife and I live in New York drug.
We've got a bunch of Bangles.
We're gonna go for a wedding weekend where all of us friends were staying in a house in a cabin in Maryland.
So we drove down.
We have these New York City bagels, all my Maryland friends air so excited because bagels are horrible and Maryland horrible mart like known as bad State for bagels should not be allowed.
So we drive down with these big bag of Brooklyn Bagel Co.
Chelsea, if you want to know. Excellent.
But those were the best bagels in here, So anyways, we're driving down.
Everything is fantastic.
It's got the seasoning on the bottom and top.
If you're at a bagel shop that only has seasoning on the top of your everything bagel.
They should be barred, and they should be thrown out of the bagel union.
So you bring it down to this cabin we get there.
Everyone's excited, literally.
There was like piles of cream cheese and toppings waiting for everyone.
When we got there, we unleashed the bagels, unfurl them out for all to have.
My friend Alex picks up the everything bagel cuts it in half.
Okay, he's fine There.
What's plain cheese? A layer of cream cheese? Okay, that cuts up individual strawberries and lately and places them all around the bagel and then puts a layer of ham on each half of the show.
He's eating an everything bagel that has onion, salt, poppy seeds and sesame seeds with cream cheese, strawberry and ham.
I was You know what? Honestly, not contain my what? That that's the kind of thing.
Like I feel like he may just have, like, an experimental, but it could be like one chef's table.
You know, in a couple years we don't read and we don't know because there's some there is under its crazy I don't That is a crazy thing to Dio, but somehow that's like crazy enough and seeming to have some underlying logic to it or some reptilian logic to it.
Um, you know, I mean, getting like sultan fruit is not so insane like you can get like they have stupid fruity cream, cheeses and stuff.
Yes, on the chart of your tongue, of the different flavors that that could be hitting your tongue.
The salty sweet Yes, I like cream cheese and and strawberries.
Yeah, it's gross.
Don't get me wrong.
I think that that's gross.
But people, you're defending it.
You like it? I I'm gonna give it a try, is what I'm saying.
I'm going to give it a try.
Horrific, but I think yours is worse.
I mean, mine was just like, that's a psychotic person, mind.
It's, you know, I don't know.
And she was She was a woman who was maybe, like, £90.
So there's that.
Oh, ever so slight.
Um, I guess I you know, Mayo is not all that different from cream cheese.
And I guess you could You could be charitable, but just doesn't say is pretty different.
What's the other news point, Mike? Let's get one life.
One last news point so that we talked about this before we start recording, but well, you're not gonna care about this because this is about the cheating scandal in the major league Baseball.
That again? Not again.
Before we recorded, I had I asked Brian, if you eat enough today with its not what cheating does everyone know about this? Am I the only person? Whatever.
I mean, it's not the only I have.
I have blind spots.
I make no bones about it.
Um, so I won't even get to that.
So this is it. This is our podcast was great.
It was really good pot.
Um, when we gonna pop.
Next, Mike, we're a pod next week.
And listen, Kyrie Irving says something super crazy, obviously are in a wild part of their schedule.
What if we beat the Bucks on Saturday? We're gonna pod.
Um, if we beat them back, why not? Do you think the Nets, they're gonna come out and be motivated from Cairo's quote? Thio? I think so.
I think Jared Allen's gonna be like, Oh, they're gonna ship me out if I don't shape up.
Better put the Overwatch down.
Um, it was so there's a story for, I think is Mallika Andrews, from ESPN.
Had a really good story about DeAndre Jordan being the NBA's most spends, his best friend or whatever.
And it was really it was really good.
Explained what? DeAndre tries to establish his role.
But there's a part of the end that I think people should read speaking specifically about, like, DeAndre Jordan.
Did he ever think he was going to be a bench player at this point? His career? And he was like, No, I gotta admit it's really hard, but I don't want to be a **** to Jared Allen.
It's kind of like now I look at that quote in a different light because, like, well, maybe Kyrie just wants Jared Allen to be traded.
So his friend DeAndre Jordan couldn't start playing basketball games as a starter.
But who knows? Hey, So, Bucks Saturday, 6 p.m.
Uh, then six years come.
Okay, Day 3 p.m.
And then the nets host the Lakers a week from today.
We're recording this on Thursday, um, again, a lot of interesting games.
And Kyrie Irving is going to continue to talk in front of the press and hopefully we'll see what he says.
That will be better or worse for the team.
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They were, um, Villa cowboy.
So people sometimes say, Mike, that you're coming in love, but I think maybe I'm also just coming at high on the mix.
So I Here's my solution, fellows.
I'm gonna turn myself down and you can turn the whole mix up on your end towns on that.
Yeah, I think I am a little bit longer.
I've been afraid to jack it up because I'm because sometimes I get so well out.
Yeah, um I I I am.
Well, I thought this I think this is a good solution.
Um Hey, guys, Thanks so much for joining us.
Um, Mike, thank you for joining us.
Thank you so much. It got dark.
Did feel like obviously we should have been prepared for this to happen at some point this season, right? For some something to come out, like actually out of Cairo, his mouth, that would make a scramble and be like, Holy crap, What's happening? This team.
But it did take me by surprise.
It was like That's six years game was pretty good.
They blew it in the fourth quarter.
What else is new? And Kyrie, actually, we didn't play well, like, why is he complaining about everyone else when he didn't play? Um, anyways, yes.
He's just a real mystery, you know, It's a real mystery.
Uh, I'm just trying to read a bunch of steps.
It was pretty great.
Um, so I've been spending a lot more time on Twitter lately.
It's pretty Gucci future.
Um, yeah, Aaron Gordon's is not having a good year.
These numbers are not appealing at all.
Is he sad? Is he having a sad boy movement? Chad, you know certain, Gordon said.
So it could be one of those things where it's like he's just been on the wrong team for all these years.
But I don't really think the Nets or the right team for him necessary unless a V becomes the center.
But so, like the thing that really bothered DeAndre Jordan being heard in last night's game really killed them.
Because six years, just like, went to the hole and they with Jared Allen attitude, which is nothing that could be done.
There's no there's, you know, there's no real reason to carry 1/3 center, even though I did advocate for the nest of draft Taco Fall and I think if they did, hey would be playing some what stock falls legend and deserves all the accolades he deserves to get to the store.
Um, so bonus content, like, someday soon.
Um, so I finally actually bought a subscription for whereby.
So we can watch you two videos together.
We should just watch movie trailers together.
You want to do that? Yeah.
Um, does that excite you? And now you don't like that? Yeah.
You excited for Avatar too? Did that trailer? I don't know what he was talking about That there's no way that I have a two official trailer number one a month ago.
Is it? Is it actually official? Maybe it's a minute long.
I can see it on a on our twitch stream here.
It's a real trailer, Mike.
Vin Diesel looks like other.
It's just a mash up of not really things.
There's no like to dislike. Appreciate us.
This looks big Diesel.
That's that's three million views.
How funny is that? But we could be missing out on some.
You mean business here? Just making fake.
It's making, like, you know, think Blade Runner sequel trailers and stuff.
Have you? So you still haven't seen rides the sky walker? That right? No, I was thinking about Katie was talking about going away this weekend.
So I was thinking about it just going in Dolo.
But then I was like, I might see 1917 instead.
Yeah, that's right.
I haven't seen 1917 yet, but, um, but they're the what's been has set Star Wars Reddit a flame is that a user has said there was one big like news dump from one reddit user, basically being like the behind the scenes struggle of J.
Abrams and trying to fight back against Lucas.
Films and Disney do not ruin his movie, which apparently they did.
And now there's been another one.
Episode nine was gonna be directed and written by Colin Trevorrow, who are pretty sure he's done that Jurassic, the new Jurassic Park movies.
But he did some other stuff beforehand, and he got replaced by D. J.
And now the Colin Trevor Rose script has gotten out on Reddit, and it's like obviously completely different and seems better.
And so Star Wars fans were like, Maybe they should just make that movie and remake Episode nine, and just it would.
It would actually probably also make a $1,000,000,000 so why not just make it you should be.
Should read up on that controversy.
Um, all right, Mikey.
Have a great, uh, Thursday.
Yeah, I'll see you around.
Right? You have any more road trips or something? Plant.
You're going away for MLK? Um, no, I think we're gonna do.
We're going away, abs.
But I'll tell you later, the Nets bring back Billy King, though.
See that? That's for next time.
Everybody mull it over.
Give it some consideration.
Richard Jefferson is on the jump.
But he talked about the nets.
Kyrie think given the link up a little.
Okay, Uh, how do I do? You can put it on the whereby is a jet.
Where's the whereby? The case of it on six for 21 shooting in the nets Lost Billy.
Afterward, Kyrie voiced his concerns about the nets roster.
She's out there, you know is glaring in terms of pieces that we need in order for us to be at that summer.
Okay? Spent better to ask than this question.
Mac and I will let you have the floor.
What do you make of this? Okay, so look sometimes the truth isn't what needs to be said.
I think Kyrie sze you say it was the truth.
No, I know this.
What I'm saying as a championship team, Kyra, is that it is a trap that Kyrie Kyrie has been on a championship team.
He's been to the Finals multiple times, so he understands the amount of talent that it takes to win a championship.
That being said, he is now on a different role as a leader, a leader of a locker room.
So he's got to do a little bit of job of finesse in my Am I disappointed in what he said? No, because his goal is to win a championship and look, we can sit here and criticize LeBron for doing all of his backward side pieces and trying to trade all these guys and doing all this stuff we can.
We can criticize that.
But Kyrie openly says like a If we want to win a championship, we need Maur here.
Is that always positive? No.
But is it the truth? Yes, they need Maur.
I believe that they need more time championship kidding me.
Why would they listen? First of all, they're not gonna win a chance.
Sound crazy? They're not gonna win a championship here this year because they don't have their.
You put Katie on his team, You trying to tell me they don't have a championship team? I think you you don't want to just win a championship.
You want to dominate.
And if you want to be Oh, there's no bad feeling here.
All I'm saying is I don't believe they probably might need another piece.
Here's the thing.
What's none of that is happening right now is not back right now.
I believe the question to him was sort of how knowing the koto me listen this year, saying, Want 41 games last year without Kyrie without Cady, they had D'Angelo Russell as their guy with the same core guys that they have.
Now you What's that? I'm gonna jump out.
Wait that we're watching this thing.
I can't even actual I can't even hear, but I gotta go.
Cheese. You don't wantto.
Here's the Here's the hot take Richard Jefferson's actually Alfa and were and so scary, and we're just kind of beta, you know, it could be that could could be as simple as that takes, we'll talk about next time.
I think we're alphas and their babies.
That's what I like to hear.
All right. Bye, everybody.