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Welcome to the title Town Show.
I am your host. Mascara.
We got my co host in the middle, Mr Sam Daring.
And we got a special guest.
Mr Ben Hoyt, also with special guest.
Ben, how are you this fine Saturday evening? I am doing great.
How are you doing, Matt? I am doing great as well.
And let me ask my coast that same question.
Sam, how are you this fine Saturday evening? Doing well worked all day.
It's good to him. The night talking sports, though.
Yeah, you're right.
It definitely is.
And for today's title town show, we will be discussing the ultimate beat down the Packers had against the Bears.
Last Sunday was a full on massacre.
And then we'll talk about the upcoming matchup Week 13 on Sunday between the Green Bay Packers and the Philadelphia Eagles.
Definite going to be an exciting match of the talk about.
But before we talk about the Philadelphia Eagles, let's get into the beatdown that the Packers put on on the Chicago Bears.
It was the ultimate beat down.
I believe the final score was 41 to 25.
I'll go to you, Sam.
What are your thoughts on the Packers win against the Bears and then moving toe? Eight and three, uh, Packers win against the Bears? That has, ah, well above average defense.
I think I put 27 to 17.
Is that final score? And obviously they definitely exceeded those expectations.
That game was a ton of fun to watch.
Yeah, it definitely was.
And I'll go from from a new neutral fan.
And Ben, when you watch the Packers beat down on Sunday Night Football against the Chicago Bears, what were your thoughts on that game? I mean, it just shows that the Green Bay Packers, they're a really good team, and they're gonna be a force to be reckoned with.
I mean, I feel like, uh, two.
I just feel like the Packers really could be a Super Bowl contending team, even with those three losses, like they're gonna win a majority of the rest of their games.
And it also highlights that the Bears have a really big offensive problem.
I mean, you don't you can't win at quarterback with with either fold or Travis Key.
I mean, Robiskie pretty much had a average Travis game around 242 yards, two picks.
So I feel like, yes, it was a great win for the Packers, but it also exploits Ah lot of problems with the Bears offense.
And I like that you brought that up, too, because I think it exposed even more problems than the Bears already had.
I mean, we feel like we've definitely realized that before is their run.
Their run game is not strong at all, and their quarterback is obviously not not the only problem on their offense.
Alan Robinson is having a really good year, and nobody's talking about it because of the quarterback situation that he's in.
And I think he's he might have.
He's either on pace or he's already broken 2000.
Hey, had 1100 last year, Um, and he put up numbers of Blake Bortles throwing the ball.
Um, he was on the A F C championship game when the James from the A F C title game.
Um, and they run deep, they're running their run offenses awful.
Um, their their their offensive line has taking it taken a really leave.
Ah, hugely backwards.
They've taken huge steeps, huge leaps of regression, Um, huge steps of of regression.
Um, in the past few years and David Montgomery's rookie year, he was very promising.
And now you're seeing him going up against, um, like defense is like the Packers who aren't overly impressive.
But defense is like the Colts where he was exposed.
Um, and they're running.
Their run game is also another huge issue.
And, um, it's this Bears offense.
It's starting your getting well over halfway through the season, and you're starting to realize that it's more than just a quarterback problem.
Yeah, quarterback problem.
But more than just a quarterback problem.
Yeah, you guys definitely hit it on the money that I think it was a great win by the agreement Packers.
Definitely a bounce back from from their bad loss against the Indianapolis Colts.
Just toe put the smack down on the Chicago Bears.
That was definitely a great thing to watch and also a fun little fact.
What that Packers win.
They actually made it to 100 wins in the Bears Packers rivalry history.
They were the first team to hit on her winds in that rivalry, so I was definitely a good thing to watch, and it was also good to watch Aaron Rodgers.
Did you guys know in that game he did not have a single hit or a single sack at all? I mean, with with how great that Bears defense is, I thought Roger would get hit a little bit.
I thought, You get pressure a little bit, but be able to hold them to know hits or zero sacks, have that clean of a game and dropped 41 points on the Bears defense.
I think it was a huge win for the Green Bay Packers and and like and like Benn said, the Green Bay Packers have a lot of winnable games for for the for the rest of their schedule, like they're probably the toughest games for the rest of the season is probably gonna be that Tennessee game.
Weak, weak 16 at Lambeau Field.
That's probably be a tough game, tough game, so we'll see how Green Bay finishes out.
But they put themselves in good position to still be in that number one seed conversation because they're only a game behind the Saints, who have nine and to record, and I think the only team above them besides the Saints, is the Seahawks due to tie breaker.
Oh, that that's about it.
Like if green bacon stay in that one seed conversation, their chances of potential going far this season have have a very, very good chances.
And if they could continue to play like this and one thing that I love the most I love how Preston Smith stepped up in that game against the Bears, seeing him recover that fumble and running in for a touchdown.
That's a spark for Preston Smith because Preston Smith before this game, it was kind of having a little bit of a down here.
Obviously, he said, expectations high from himself last year because he had.
I believe it was 12 sacks last year and Za'darius Smith had 13.5.
Obviously, Big Z is doing his part.
He's he's near the top of the sack totals.
I believe his top five and sacks for a defensive player.
But one guy has been disappointing.
Little was presses Smith.
We kind of thought you would continue what he did a year one with Green Bay and year to its kindly been a little slower.
But seeing him have have a good game against Chicago, hopefully, that helps helps them get better.
Because if Preston Smith can get it could get better.
Help stop the run game.
It's very Smith piece on doing well as well as Kenny Clarke, especially with that front defense with how much of a liability our run game is.
If we could play like that, then we're definitely going to be a team to be to be reckoned with for the rest of remainder of the regular season and into the playoffs.
And let's get into tomorrow's matchup.
The 371 Philadelphia Eagles head toe Lambeau Field to play the eight and three Green Bay Packers.
Now a lot of people look at this and say that these two teams are on two totally opposite perspectives, once clearly competing for a suitable in the elements competing for the number one pick.
But you're actually wrong.
My friend Philadelphia Eagles still got a chance to win the NFC East division now for agreement Packers, On the other hand, they still got a chance toe, so to go far this season.
But let's let's get into this.
Let's talk about the Green Bay back.
Let's talk about the Green Bay Packers side of things.
I'll go to my co Sam.
Who do you believe on the Green Bay Packers on the offensive side of the ball is gonna have a fantastic game.
I'm gonna go Davante Adams on this one because the Eagles second, it doesn't really scare me.
Darius Slay is a good corner.
Darius Slay was a good pick up from that team.
Um, but I mean, they to me.
I just I don't see anyone outside of Darius slay on their secondary that, you know, that scares me.
Um, but I'm gonna go Davante Adams on this one.
Aaron Rodgers is a very close second.
And then I'll go to our special guest, Mr Ben Hoy, who's a diehard Eagles fan from the Philadelphia Eagles. Perspective.
Who are you most scared with on this Green Bay Packers offense for potentially having a great game? So you would think I would be scared of Erin Jones.
But I'm not because usually running back struggle against the Eagles because we're we are above average run defense.
Remember our Super Bowl year? We shut running backs down again I am very scared of our secondary.
I'm very scared of Davante Adams and the Aaron Rodgers combo.
You could also see Cem receivers like Lazard and Vallas canceling having a good game.
So I don't know if I could pinpoint as specific player other than Davante, Adams and Erin, I'll say Davante Adams and Aaron Rodgers combo.
Definitely a good point there.
I'm gonna go with the bad man. Aaron Rodgers.
I'll go with Aaron Rodgers just because of the fact that you know he's in the M V P race.
I think it's the M V P races between Pat Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers, one and two.
Aaron Rodgers right now leads the league in touchdowns with 33.
I feel like this could be a game where he could potentially pad had those stats more and further ensure his case as a potential M V p this season.
Hopefully, he could get M v P. Number three.
That would be fantastic have happened.
But I'm also going to go with Aaron Rodgers just for the fact that last time Aaron Rodgers played the Philadelphia Eagles, it was last year.
Week four, he had over 400 yards.
I believe you have 422 yards and like a touchdown or two.
With With how, with how banged up the Philadelphia Eagles secondary is and how suspect it is, even though they do have Darius Slay in there.
Aaron Rodgers knows variously.
He played them twice a year.
He was in Detroit.
He knows his ends, announced, knows where he's going to go on stuff.
So I'll just go with Aaron Rodgers.
Just because the fact that one the quarterback is one of the key reasons toe that they could win games and to he know he knows what the Eagles are gonna bring.
He's seeing he's played this team before.
It's essentially the same team as last year, except maybe a couple additional pieces, like a Jalen Reagor or a Darius way.
But it's pretty much the same same pieces on defense as as last year, So I expect Aaron Rodgers toe have to have a phenomenal game, and hopefully he does, because Green Bay is 83 they can't afford toe lose, lose any games risk of season if they want to have a chance to get that number one seed uh, let's move on to the other side of the ball.
The Green Bay Packers defense.
I'll go to our to our guest and Ben from the Eagles offense out of the ball.
Who do you not want on the Packers defense on the ball to have a phenomenal game? I mean, you're Alexander is a scary person.
I mean, I think Carson is just such a liability right now throwing the ball.
We've seen glimpses of him running the ball last game, which is a great site because you're getting 10 12 yard runs without fumbling.
But I mean, John Deere. Alexander.
He gets picked, and I bet he's going to get some pics off Carson.
What about you, Sam? Who do you believe on the Green Bay Packers defense is gonna have a good game.
Share is a good pick just for the fact that they don't have.
I mean, they're still trying to find their identity at you know, the wide receiver corps, Travis Fulgham, who has obviously been a stud.
Um, my other friend is very indifferent.
Alshon Jeffery Jalen Rigor.
And when you when Jalen Rigor gets his opportunities, he's not a bad receiver.
Um my pick is gonna be so Darius Smith.
Um, the offensive line on the Eagles has struggled with injuries so much.
I don't think that should necessarily be an excuse for the performance of Carson Wentz.
Um, but I do think it is a small factor.
However, it's not a huge excuse, but the Eagles offensive line have dealt with so many injuries throughout the course of the season.
Um, and I do things there.
Smith is one guy to watch out for? Definitely.
You're gonna say something, Ben? No.
Okay, Definitely good players with Joey Alexander and Za'darius Smith definitely go wrong with one of those players.
But I'm gonna go with a different route.
I'm gonna go with.
I'm gonna go with the defensive front and Kenny Clarke.
Kenny Clarke just recently got got paid his extension before the season started, and he's kind of on the same path where he's quiet during the first part of the season.
But when it gets down to the final weeks of the season, he starts to turn it on and and rack with sacks.
This is the game where Kenny Clarke has to perform well and has to get the sack numbers because because as of lately, Kenny Clarke has been a little quiet this season.
You know, he he had his injury.
Where was out a couple of weeks and then he's come back in.
He's been pretty much quiet.
I mean, we paid.
He gave him his extension before the season started because he was are made run stopper.
Defense is still a liability, and he hasn't really contributed much to try and stop that.
And so I think I think this is a game where Kenny Clarke wakes up and starts to be a force.
I mean, we've seen throughout Kenny Clarke's career in Green Bay, where he struggles early in the season.
But when it comes late in the season final stretch, that's when he starts to rack up those ***.
And that's why he gets toe.
You know, being mentioned as one of the better, better offensive tackles in the NFL, obviously not one of the best.
But, you know, you could probably put him in maybe like a top in the top 10 conversation, at least, you know, from a defensive tackle standpoint, So I just think for the fact that Green Bay has to try and get pressure on the quarterback to make to make Carson Wentz uncomfortable.
I think Kenny Clarke has to be one of the reasons why, you know, if I had to pick other players besides Kenny Clarke, it definitely would be Giant Alexander and Za'darius Smith.
I think you guys make great great pics with those players.
You know, I'm just going with Kenny Clarke just to go from or more of a different perspective, Mawr more of, ah, like an interior kind of guy to try and shut down the run because for being honest, if the Philadelphia Eagles could get the run game down, whether whether it's with whether Miles Sanders or Boston Scott, I mean, it would make the game a lot easier for for Carson Wentz to do well because I feel like when the Eagles can't get the run game down, they got to rely a lot on Carson Wentz and we've seen Carson Wentz be a liability all season.
So you know, I got Kenny Clarke because if he could stop the run that Green Bay is going to be in great hands for this game, and let's go on the other side.
The other team, the Philadelphia Eagles.
Let's talk about the offense.
I'll go toe you, Ben.
Who do you believe on? The Eagles is gonna have a good game on the offense.
You know, I'm tired of talking about the offense, Matt, but all jokes aside, I feel like Boston.
Scott's gonna have an amazing day.
I mean, I think he's had pretty decent games all throughout the season, but I think this is a game where he's gonna break out.
I believe Miles Sanders is also going to have a decent game on the passing in.
I would like to see a little revival of draft of Travis Fulgham.
I mean, he's had a few down games, and this could be a game where he really breaks out and shines.
What about What about you, Sam? From the from the Packers and things? Who do you not want tohave a good offensive game for the Philadelphia Eagles? So who are not? Who do I not want to have a good offensive game? I'm going to go Miles Sanders in that run and that run game, but I want to shift gears and kind of talk about a player that I'm in, you know, intrigued because you don't know which guy you're going to get.
And that's obviously Carson Wentz.
I don't know if you watch Tan Orlowski.
Um, I don't agree with some of his Eagles text, but he's an ****ytical.
He's very, he's very good.
He's an to him cover college football games, and he does a really good job.
But his ego his Eagles takes are kind of blasphemous sometimes.
But, um, I'm really interested to see what Carson once shows up, because this defense, the Packers defense on paper, they should be top 10.
But they're not.
They are outside of the top 15, I would probably say Top fifth.
I would probably say in the 15 to 20 range right now, Um, there, sitting at the mediocre side, um, their secondary looks promising.
I've always said this splash of the offseason underrated, um, off season move that the Packers made this past off season.
But this is not an elite defense that Carson wants that Carson Wentz is going up against the run.
Defense is atrocious, so and we've seen the amount of times Carson once has gotten sack, and you have even mentioned Ben that your egos air make. They're expecting.
Carson wants to do more than he already has, and because of his injury history, he shouldn't have to do that.
And he has the weapons.
And, yes, they're not elite weapons.
He needs to accept the fact, especially with their three and 7371 and they're still in contention to make the playoffs.
The run defense for the package is awful.
The secondary is not great.
It is a developing secondary outside of J.
The pass rush is very promising.
So this is Darius and Preston Smith.
We've seen limited flashes out of Preston, but I'm interested to watch and see which Carson Wentz shows up.
Is it going to be a Carson wants that is somehow playing.
I'm not saying he is, but he's somehow playing like he's a regressing quarterback.
Or are we going to see slow improvements out of Carson Wentz and very promising statistics and promising performance out of Carson once against this packer's defense? I mean, not Thio interrupt, but I think Carson does well when he has time, and I don't think he's gonna have that time with that pass rush.
I mean, we make opposing defense is look better than they are.
I mean, we look, we made New York look good.
And I think if I'm the Eagles, I am going full force with rush on first downs.
I mean, we cannot be losing yards on first downs because that will put us in holes holes.
That means that we're gonna have to pass.
And Carson will be eating *** against that pass rush because it's just inevitable with that defense.
So if on the Eagles I really need to take advantage of the papers Week run defense, Yeah, definitely make good points there for the Eagles offense.
I don't want to have to have a good game.
I would also agree with Sam and say, Carson Wentz, the reason being is we've seen Carson.
Wentz is flashing. We've seen them play great.
I mean, you look at look at the final draft you had against the Giants, where you just look like that 2017.
Carson Wentz were wondering where that once where that Carson Wentz player kind of was, and even in crunch time against the Seahawks, where he decided toe throw off every betters money line for Seattle when it was minus 6.5.
But it's one of those where for Carson wants.
You never know what kind of once you're gonna get.
That's what's kind of scary for the Packers defense's You could as a defense walk into this game and expect, You know, the Carson Wentz is not gonna be good this game.
And then he somehow goes back to M V P form and just slices and dices the defense.
And then you're in a world of hurt.
So I'm going with Carson Wentz just because for the Eagles to do well this game and for them to have a chance to somehow some way, compete and win a division and host the playoff game, they need to have Carson Wentz played great.
Come this Philadelphia Eagles team is going to struggle and they're gonna they're gonna etch their name for a top 10 drafted, but because it's the vision is so bad, they could either be a top 10 pick or have the home playoff game.
No, it's it's kind.
It's kind of ah, kind of a picker choose.
But I'm going with Carson Wentz just for the fact that everything, everything revolves around the quarterback.
If your quarterback is doing well, then your offense is gonna do well on your team is gonna do well.
If your quarterback is not doing good, your offense is gonna be very stagnant.
And unless if you have a **** good defense, you're pretty much going to be over and out of the game really quick.
So I'm going with Carson Wentz just for the fact that if the Packers defense doesn't hold it on, whence it doesn't get him pressure.
Like Ben said, if Carson Wentz is comfortable in the pocket has no pressure, he could sleep.
That's just for the fact that you need to have a good Q B Plato win, and this is a desperate eagle scene that's on the Green Bay Packers play the Eagles.
Last year, they were one and two and very desperate.
And what happens? They go into Lambeau Field.
They win that game, save their season and go to and to.
It's the same exact situation for the Philadelphia Eagles.
They go into this situation.
The 371 Green Bay is 83.
Gravy has a commanding lead in the division.
Will stop. We're gonna lose the division.
But the Philadelphia Eagles there 371 They look at this game and say, Hey, a lot of people were doubtless A lot of people are going to sleep on the Philadelphia Eagles, but we still got a chance to win this division.
We maybe 371 But if we win this game, take it one game at a time.
We could potentially win this division and host a playoff game.
So Carson Wentz complaint.
But it's gonna be an award of hurt, especially on that defense inside of the ball.
Let's move on to the Philadelphia Eagles defense.
I'll go to you, Sam.
Who are you most concerned with on that Eagles defense? Thio potentially having a good game.
I'm gonna go with Fletcher Cox on this one.
Fletcher Cox hasn't been bad.
He's been okay, has been great.
Um, but for his age, yeah, he is getting up there in age, but he's got 29 total in 5.
5 sacks this year.
But if I had to pick one guy to stop, I think the Packers have the pieces to stop him, but Corey Linsley is added to the I r Um, so obviously, that is one big loss, because Cory Lindsay's played well this year, and that's making the offseason that much tougher.
But Elton Jenkins played center in college.
You might see a weaker side on that offensive line, but I'm gonna go with Fletcher Cox on this one.
Definitely a good tick there.
Let's go to our Eagles fan and Ben.
Who do you want on the Eagles defense to have a great game against the Green Bay Packers? I mean, I love Brandon Graham.
That guy just gets sacks and I and we need sacks on Rogers.
I mean, yeah, you remember the Super Bowl sack against Tom Brady, stripping them and pretty much clinching the Super Bowl for the Eagles.
That was Brandon Graham and and he's continued to do that to this day.
I believe Brandon Graham, Fletcher, Cox and the rest of the deal.
I need to have a tremendous day for the Eagles toe win because they need to get pressure on Rodgers, period.
Love you guys points there. I'm gonna go on the secondary.
I'm gonna go, Darius.
Slay Reason why going Darius Slaves Eagles.
Everybody thought that was the peace.
That was the piece that the Eagles were missing to get over the hump and push the Cowboys in the NFC East Division to do well.
And so far, the addition of Darius Slay.
Okay, Has it made a grand impact on the Eagles defense? No.
Their second to Stary still have problems.
Yeah, I've still got some problems, but this is a game where Darius Slay need needs to do well.
Darius Slay obviously knows, knows the Green Bay Packers offense.
He was with Detroit his career most of his career until this season.
He's played them twice a year, so he knows He basically knows what this Packers office is gonna get.
And Darius Slay.
He's gonna need to shut down the Vonta Adams, because if we're if we're being on Mambo is doing great, that it's gonna be pretty much over for Philadelphia.
It is gonna be over.
But if Darius Slay confined away to contain Davante Adams and shut down Davante Adams through the game and basically tell Aaron Rodgers rely, rely on your reliant and consistent receivers try and beat us with Alma's are Try and Beat Us with Marquez Vadas Scammon If they can find a way.
If Green Bay can be Philadelphia with MVS, and animals are to basically take away the Montana throughout the game, I think if you're the defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz, you just have to tip your cats of and just say, ****, Aaron was just a great quarterback utilizing his weapons.
But I'm so you ran out.
Jim Schwartz, I believe, was the defensive coordinator for the Eagles.
He is basically telling all of his guys and Darius Slay.
Do not let Davante Adams have a big game because the Vontae Yonas has a big game against against the Philadelphia Eagles is gonna be a rap.
Doesn't matter if you shut down the run.
Doesn't matter if you contain all the other receivers.
If that Rogers and Adams combo is working, who is gonna be tough to stop? Because, in my opinion, it's very hard to name combos besides Rogerson Adams on the best in the NFL.
I mean, maybe my homes and Hill, maybe Breeds and Thomas.
But Rodgers and Adams, that's one of the best in the business and once that gets clicking very hard to stop.
So I'm going with Darius Slay, just just for the fact that if he doesn't contain Davante Adams, it's gonna be a long day for that Philadelphia Eagles defense.
Yeah, and let's move on to two for, say, a probability, our confidence meter in this game.
Let's go with the Eagles fan and Ben Ben.
Is there any confidence on the Eagles winning? Winning this game on Sunday? I mean, that's the million dollar question, Matt, and I'm still asking myself that question.
I have almost no confidence because, like you said, we need to contain Davante Adams E.
And I don't think he could be stopped.
I think he could only be contained.
I believe you said at one point, Matt, that Aaron Rodgers would have to test the other receivers.
Throw it to Alan Lazar, throw it to market.
Dallas is canceling.
The thing about the Eagles is they make the secondary receivers look good.
I mean, for Dallas, they didn't throw Tomar Cooper at time.
They threw the Michael Gallup in, made him look fantastic.
I just believe that are offenses so bad and our offensive lineman is gonna give no time for Carson Wentz or the Run.
And I just believe Aaron Rodgers he just throw dines and he just He's been doing it for years and he's gonna be like, Yeah, definitely love the points there.
Let's let's go toe to you, Sam, What is your confidence meter in the Green Bay Packers, this upcoming game against the Philadelphia Eagles? I have a lot of confidence in this game.
I think this should be a game where the Packers are gonna come with the chip on the shoulder.
I mean, they the loss to them last year start like once they lost to this team Last year, this was started to be a was 40 there, 30 30 And that Laws, I think, took a lot of confidence out of that team.
Um, and it's somehow turned into a trap game.
And this Eagles team from this year is a completely different one from this year.
And But if I'm not mistaken, did the Eagles come out with a report the other day that they said they're keeping Howie? Roseman is the GM.
It's more likely than not, but I still believe.
Okay, I didn't really it just like a headline office.
So he that he is or he's not staying.
Um, yeah, but before you go on, I think that's just Philadelphia sports media.
You know, rumors were flying all the time through W I or 97 5, the fanatic.
So unless it's confirmed, I don't think you can really go to any conclusions.
And I want to get your thoughts on this, too, is I think this team needs to change whether that be blowing it up, whether that be looking for a new GM like a right GM.
And rumor has it, I'm saying, if Doug Peterson gets fired somehow in some way, John Dorsey's name is heating up, and rumor has it he wants to bring Eric the enemy wherever he goes And Eric the enemy.
John Dorsey coming Thio because the Eagles have a good amount of draft capital and they have a quarterback, a position that is very hard to come by.
And you have Carson ones.
Yeah, Carson ones is not playing well this year.
And what I don't like, what people do is they write people off.
They write players off after one bad year.
Um, Carson once is one of them.
Baker Mayfield is another.
Mayfield is underachieving as a as a quarterback.
Yes, Um, even though the Browns are, what, eight and three right now.
But that's the one thing that's a really gets on.
My nerves is people are writing players off because of one bad year.
Yes, he is one of the most injury prone quarterbacks in the NFL.
Obviously, what the key phrase there is when when he's healthy, if they they had a mock draft.
Um, the ego is really picking seventh right now, Andi.
I'll just do a little spoiler for you before I kind of we kind of, um, shout out or other stuff.
Caleb and I did a Caleb Skinner and I did a mock draft.
We have the Eagles taking Micah Parsons.
Um, it's like the seventh pick because the heels need a face of their linebacker corps way of the Packers taken almond raw state brown.
But my point is, the Eagles need a change.
Yes, they need to change.
They need to blow this team up.
In my opinion, I think they need to pick one, maybe two guys on that defense of side of the ball to keep and build around.
Whether that be a guy like Fletcher Cox, especially their D line.
The D line is one of the positions that I would be least worried about outside of maybe their secondary, obviously, in their pass rush.
Because you're right.
I mean, they're the Eagles run defense is above average.
They're not a Green Bay Packers run defense assed faras.
My confidence goes, I'm not sure if we were doing scores yet, but I'm gonna go 34 20 packers, I think the Packers when Andi, I don't know if you ever So what? What is always irritating is unless it's just oh, like we're gonna win.
Anyways, the Packers always let teams come back, try to let teams come back the last, like, 5, 10 minutes of the game and week one against the Vikings, Um, last Sunday night against the Bears and like, yeah, you're just preventing the deep ball.
At that point, they're not coming back.
But I think this is gonna be a game with the Packers.
Do that, Um, but I think they're still gonna end up winning Um and I think they're gonna win that game.
And I was gonna ask you that to Matt.
Do you think the Eagles should blow up this team? Do you thought? I think they need they need to change.
Yeah, I think I think they need to change.
I think it should be Howie Roseman.
I mean, I believe in Doug, and I know I'm like I was Garrett said that Matt Nagy, Nagy.
I can't say the word.
I'm doing a Matt Nagy.
But here's the thing.
I mean, he took us to the playoffs 300 years in a row.
New Orleans lost in New Orleans in the second round and then lost the Seattle.
I believe Carson needs this.
That and here's why.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I think this is just a weird, rough year.
I mean, it's 2020 and I think that we need offensive line help, and that should be your first pick through the what? The 2021 NFL draft.
I believe that if e believe if a new coach comes along, fine.
But I think the GM needs to go because his draft has been horrible.
I believe Carson needs this day.
We need defensive help.
So this will be a offensive line defensive draft, because even like Jason Kelsey, the center, he's getting older.
We need someone to replace him.
Lane Johnson's getting older by the day and the rest.
You're not really that great.
So I think this is going to be a complete rebuild for the offensive line and defense.
Yeah, I was gonna say to I'm sorry, Matt, but I was gonna say to Is they need to blow up that team.
They need a culture.
Yeah, obviously, Carson Wentz is the Carson Wentz is the face of that franchise right now on its They've made it clear they've forked over all this money for him.
Yeah, he is having one struggling year, but is how he rose.
We're gonna be the with this team in the future.
Is Aziz Doug Peterson.
I think there was another guy.
I forgot his name.
There was another guy in the front office.
If I'm not mistaken less, I'm thinking of another team.
He didn't go to practice earlier that week because he was so frustrated.
That was the owner.
He didn't practice? Yep.
Yeah, I personally think Philadelphia needs to blow it up.
If they don't make the playoffs this year with their team, they got, They got to find a way to move on.
I think I personally think regardless, um, because it's like, Yeah, if you don't make them If you don't pick the playoffs in this division, I should say if you don't win this specific division because this division is yes, it's obviously the weakest in the NFL.
But there's some talent on there.
And if if they teams, if GM to these teams build this team right, like David got on my awful GM, um, Howie Roseman? Yes, he's not a good GM.
It all, um, Redskins, GM, Redskins haven't had that bad of a draft.
Um, they can't finish games, but the team looks very promising, especially if they don't draft the quarterback.
I don't know how the Cowboys are this bad, Um, and no, Mike McCarthy is not getting fired.
I think he'll get one more chance.
I think he'll I think he'll go into next year on the hot seat.
Um, but if you have a smart GM, unlike all four of these teams and you build that team right? That division that that division itself could be competitive with other teams? Yeah, definitely.
And and I love I love You mentioned of John Dorsey.
John Dorsey, everywhere he has been, has made the team better.
When he was with Green Bay, he turned them into title contenders.
There's when he was in Kansas City, he turned.
He turned them around.
He turned the Chiefs around with with Alex Smith, That's where, content into a consistent playoff team.
They weren't really contenders because you still have the Patriots there.
But you knew that the Chiefs were gonna be in the playoffs year in and year out, whether it be a wild card or or when the division and even even when he was in Cleveland, he turned Cleveland around and he drafted out well in Cleveland.
Then he got. He got canned.
But look at where Cleveland is now.
They're 83 and it was pretty much all John Dorsey that that built the team.
I feel like if the Eagles should move on and blow it up, if they were to move on from how we, Roseman and Doug Peterson and knowing that John Dorsey would bring in Eric the enemy following Jeffrey Loria and the Eagles.
Why not? Why wouldn't they want to do that? Because if we're being honest, the Eagles are nowhere close to what they once were in that suitable run.
I mean, that that's who will run is looking more and more like a fluke here.
I mean, with all the injuries that they have had with all of their talent, just seeming thio age over the years, even if you make the playoffs, is you.
I would just say, Why not blow it up? It's always better, in my opinion, to rebuild a year early than too late, because if you do it early, you know, maybe you fail.
You know the first two years, the other team has their fun while they get the cloud on you.
But when you're on the come up and they're on the rebuild, you get to look down at them and laugh at them.
That's why I think the Philadelphia Eagles should do.
They may be looking at the other teams they may be looking at that they may be looking at the Cowboys.
They may be looking at the Giants.
Even even the football team.
They may look and say, You go ahead and you compete for the division.
You compete for the playoffs, you know you'll be below 500.
We're gonna be smart and and play and play chess.
We're going to get a top 10 pick.
We're gonna get some new talent gets, um, draft capital build around Carson Wentz better.
I don't think they move on from one.
So I think that contract is too bad.
You're not gonna get rid of that contract even if you want to cut him.
All that dead money you gotta absorb it is not worth it.
You gotta find a way to make it work with Carson Wentz.
And even even though you drafted Jalen Hurts in the second round, which is a bad decision.
Even though you drafted June rigor in the first round, it was a receiver.
Obviously, I think we're doing better.
If you would have Justin Jefferson instead.
But you gotta receiver Jalen Reagor.
You have You have to find a way to make it work.
Let me answer that.
You got a receiver.
The Packers didn't.
Yeah, you did get it received for Green Bay did not.
And this Philadelphia It's a very interesting team in Philadelphia.
I mean, you look at even even though the last two years that Philadelphia has made the playoffs, you've kind of looked at them and said, Yeah, you made the playoffs all right, I guess something.
After the Super Bowl run, obviously, it's phenomenal.
You go 13 and three, but went stairs is a C L.
When he comes back and Nick Foles finds, UM, Miracle pixie dust in 2018 somehow beats the Bears, and it's really close with Saints.
As the Eagles fan, You kind of looked at that and said, Okay, I'll take that.
Even though we went nine and seven, we beat the Bears in Chicago.
We almost beat the Saints.
That's a successful season.
But then you go in the last year and it's like, Oh, my God, what is this? What what happened? When, like like, I think you probably want a lasting and just be like just take, don't don't make the playoffs.
I don't care if the Cowboys are choking.
Just get us a higher pick and just build offensive line and then obviously you know you make the playoffs and you get a clown on the Cowboys.
Like ha you choked.
Now where? The playoffs.
But then what? Carson Wentz goes down.
I thought you better So I think it's like, Oh, great, once it's done again.
His first postseason start and cloudy just put the CA nail of the coffin on him.
Obviously, we counted everything you can in that playoff game, but you knew once once went down, the game was over.
Because I'm sorry to tell you, I know Josh McCown.
He was a great player, but old Josh McCown, who's almost 40 was not going to beat that Seahawks team.
That that that just was not gonna happen.
You knew once once went down that first quarter, it was only a matter of time of when you're game and and we weren't getting updates.
So we don't even know whence was like down with an injury until we saw Josh Macau coming.
And we're like, Wait, what just happened? Um, so but here's the thing of city for a moment.
This city likes winning.
They don't like rebuilding.
They don't like losing, and the sports media is gonna have a field day with this because you're gonna get a bunch of angry callers, and I think it's gonna be such a negative atmosphere in this city if there's a rebuild.
I mean, I would be all in favor of Eric B.
Enemy. I think he's an awesome guy. Awesome, coach.
But if it's gotta be a rebuild, it's got to be quick because we just hate Dallas and we don't want them waiting.
We don't want them having pride over us.
We wanna be the team that makes the playoffs every year like we did the last three years.
So it's got to be a really quick rebuild.
I think it will be.
I think it will be.
I don't think it's gonna be a rebuild I'll take.
I'll take 3 to 5 years, like like in the dark days with Chip Kelly.
When when you you took years to fix what Chip Kelly, I don't think it's gonna be that.
I think it's gonna be one of those where it's like a retool like a quick return.
Make it the next year like a Cleveland situation.
Obviously, you know, Cleveland had terrible success beforehand, but talking when they had all the hype last year and they failed.
Philadelphia should take that approach.
Take, you know, this year.
Just Tank and get a top 10 pick.
Move on from the G m of the head coach.
Get a new guys, get new guys in and then kind of store.
So right from there, because the NFC East is not a good division.
It's not like it's not like you're in a tough, competitive division like the NFC West of the A F C North.
You're talking the energy East hasn't had a consecutive division winner in 15 years.
I mean, a different team has won this division every year since, about probably 2000 and six.
And the last team that did repeat was your Philadelphia Eagles.
And they don't they don't look like they're gonna repeat this year. I mean, granite.
There are miracles.
Miracles do happen.
I'd say like a half game back from the New York Giants in the first place, so you could potentially repeat.
But, I mean, the Eagle schedule is not friendly.
It is not friendly.
I think you got Green Bay tomorrow.
Thank you. Got to play the saints.
You know you play Seattle last week.
I mean, it's it is not pretty, is not pretty.
This might be, you know, down the stretch that this might be a point where the Eagles has got tested pride like it might be at a point where it's like, All right, how long can we get this a competitive game? Because a or two to make it even more miserable the next three games? You got the backers, you got the Saints and you got the Cardinals.
All three of those teams are either battling for Super Bowl or bowing for a playoff spot.
I think the way the Cardinals air playing, I think the Cardinals are beatable.
For for the for the Yeah, it definitely is.
It's because, like the yes, the Cardinals are good and the Cardinals had almost if not just about the same hype as the because of that DeAndre Hopkins trade and how lethal that offense, they're the top.
Think the number two now.
I don't remember who's above him, probably the Chiefs, because they were.
They were the number one offense in the NFL for a few weeks for quite some time, and I think I think they're too right now, but some of the losses don't look good on one of them is definitely the Detroit Lions, who's now fired Bob Quinn and fired Matt Patricia on.
Now they're lobbying for Robert Sala to become their head coach.
Defensive coordinator for the Niners? I think they said he has family ties.
Um, I think to the organization or to the owners, to the owners.
I'm not mistaken, but I think the Cardinals are beatable team for both the Packers and the Eagles, because some of the Cardinals losses don't look good at all.
Andi, I think the Cardinals.
I think the Cardinals are gonna end up being the last seed, um, in the NFL are in NFC in the playoffs, but I wouldn't be too shocked if they get canned right away in the playoffs.
Yeah, I will be shocked, either.
I don't know why Detroit's going after Sala.
I mean, obviously, solids, good defense going there.
But did they go after patrician last time? Because, yeah, exactly.
They need the offensive minded coach they had.
They had Jim Caldwell, who was a defensive minded coach.
You know, a lot of people are saying to is the Lions that Lions ownership should apologize to Jim Caldwell? Because weren't they like there were nine and seven for two? They were not for two straight years.
And then they fired Caldwell because they had enough of mindset, which which was the right move at the time.
I mean, you look, that's what I'm like.
I I think it was the right move at the time.
It's just another.
It's just hire is just you hire him with Patricia, who was done much well.
What's interesting, too, is this is the best team math brick church has ever had the work with with his time.
With that, you're in Detroit There.
He brings in almost every free agent he brings in his from the Patriots to build the Patriots scheme because he's from that Patriots regime.
So now whoever comes into that is gonna have to deal with trading all these players or how many.
How many players on that Patriots like from that Patriots team that's in Detroit now? Are they gonna end up keeping like how, how big of a blow up are we going to see Detroit going into? Are we going to see Matthew Stafford's name heating up in free agent or heating up in the off season trades.
I wouldn't be too shocked, I think the quarterback situation in general with Matthew Stafford, San Donald, Dwayne Haskins.
Especially if they draft the quarterback.
All those names and they're gonna heat up in the off season and especially the draft.
Yeah, especially in the draft.
Detroit's one of those teams where they pretty much have to blow it up.
I mean, they can't They're not going to compete in the NFC North.
They're not being in Green Bay.
They can't be Detroit.
No, no, that can't be destroyed. They can't.
They can't beat themselves.
They can't be menaced soda or Chicago.
They essentially should bought.
Um, I think they should have blew it up years ago.
I mean, I made I made a bold prediction when they had the eighth pick in the draft before they took TJ Hawkinson.
I thought Detroit you should have traded Stafford moved on from him and took Dwayne Haskins.
Obviously, Dwayne Haskins is, uh, not not looking good right now, but with the hyper on Dwayne Haskins, I thought Detroit should when it's that season and say, Look, we're not we're not competing this season.
We're not going to make the playoffs.
Let's just rebuild.
Let's trade Stafford.
While his value is high, let's move on from Slay.
While his value is high, let's just revamp this entire team.
Take that eighth pick, get our quarterback of the future and go from there.
Obviously, they did not take my advice.
They did not take wise Jesus advice, and they have slumped ever since.
Which is good for us because, you know, for Green Bay, it's It's easy to wins, even though even though they players close green.
Biggest done in the end.
And let's let's see, let's see what Detroit could dio.
I mean, it's gonna be a very interesting off season for for ah, lot of these teams for Ben's Eagles, depending on where the Eagles fair up, if they make the playoffs, do they run it back with the same team because they have hopes that they made the playoffs? Or do they blow it up because they missed the playoffs? You know, how's how's even salmon eyes? Green Bay Packers? How are they gonna take take on the off season? We got a lot of free agents to worry about with Lindsley and Jones, depending on where Green Basin tapes up.
If they hoist the Lombardi Trophy somehow, how are they going to take the off season? If they somehow disappointed the playoffs, how are they going to take on during the off season? If they make a deep run and fall short, how are they going to approach the off season? It's gonna be very interesting with how these teams approach their their off season and how each team is going to shape out, which then brings into our score predictions for this Green Bay Packers Philadelphia Eagles game.
Sam, you mentioned your final score. Prediction.
You said 34 to 20 Green Bay.
I'll direct the same question toe you. Ben.
What do you think the score prediction is gonna be between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Green Bay Packers? I mean, Sam almost nailed, uh, nail on the head.
I mean, I think I'm very similar in terms of score.
I mean, I think the Eagles are going to score just because the Packers defense, but I believe the Packers were just gonna score more because the Eagles defense is so bad.
I believe the Eagles defense is gonna be so stopped on a few drives.
But I do think also that the Eagles are going to make a two point conversion before this game is over, because dog does not like kicking extra points for some real.
So my final score is pretty close to Sam's.
It is 31 2, 20 2, 31 20 to screw up those betters who had minus minus eight, minus 8.
5, I was gonna say, Yeah, spreads 8.
So spreads and a half.
So no knowing Doug Peterson, they'll probably be them by eight.
Eagles have done a pretty good job of messing up.
There's better, so far, have done a pretty good job so far.
I'm gonna go with I will go with the Green Bay Packers win.
I'm gonna go with 37.
I'm gonna go 37 24.
I think Green Bay wins by two scores.
I think this is gonna be another good game by Aaron Rodgers and the Packers offense.
I mean, this is essentially a game for the Green Bay Packers.
Green bag can't take any games lightly.
They can't afford to lose any games down the stretch.
E. I mean, we're talking.
And if Green Bay wants a chance that the number one seed, they're pretty much in a win out mode the rest of the way through.
Because when you look at the Saints and Seahawks, they are very, very, very good teams.
And their schedules are very friendly for the Seahawks and the Saints, the remainder of the scheduling the Seahawks.
It's pretty favorable down the stretch.
I think they got the Giants, got the football team and then one other easy opponent before they got to play the Niners of the ramps.
You look at the Saints.
Their schedule is pretty favorable throughout the rest of their season until they play the Kansas City Chiefs.
So I mean, you look at the Green Bay Packers.
They're in pretty much a situation where they can't have a bad game.
They can't have a game like they had against Minnesota, where they just like Dalvin, Cook, cook them.
They can't have a game like Indianapolis, where Europe big at halftime, and you let them come back in and win it over time they can't. They can't have that happen.
They gotta play like they did against Chicago Bears.
Put him away early.
And then, if you want defense, don't let the deep ball go buy.
Go up like the Bears.
Like Go up 41 to 10 and maybe let them win.
It has to be that kind of game for Green Bacon's Philadelphia you got.
You gotta put away the Eagles early.
You gotta make Make them toe where they have no conference of winning.
Because I'll tell you right now.
They like the underdog mentality when they won the Super Bowl run.
They have the underdog Mass.
They have a dog mask on because everybody doubted them.
Don't doubt the Philadelphia Eagles.
You gotta put him away early, even even though we like like the Seahawks did.
Even though the Seahawks struggling on Monday night.
They put the Eagles away early, early and often, and they wound up winning.
Winning the game, you know, because of because of what Wilson Wilson was able to dio Green Bay is gonna do the same thing.
Get up early on the Eagles, put them away early and get the job done.
Because a lot of ****ysts are gonna look at this game and say, If Green Bay keeps a close with the Eagles uh, the same old Packers, same old Packers not going to get them, They keep it close with the bad teams.
They lose the good teams.
But if Green Bay can put the can put the foot on the Eagles throats, just fully beat them up, they're gonna look at the Packers and say, Oh, this team's got an offense.
This teams like ****, This team could make a run.
This isn't this isn't the Green Bay Packers of last year where they just fold against good teams.
Uh, they could go make a deep run.
So that's personally what I think Green Bay has to do in this game.
That's why I got a final score.
Think it's 30 37 37 toe, 37 to 23.
They gotta put a beat down on.
They gotta find a way to get the job done, and I believe they're going to do that now.
There's one thing I say what will be talked about if they don't get the job done.
This team is not going anywhere.
This Green Bay Packers team.
If they can't be the 37 and one photo of the Eagles team, they're not going anywhere.
You're pretty much gonna kiss the Super Bowl. Could buy.
I mean, I mean, it's gonna be very hard for Green Bay 20 Super Bowl this year, as is.
I mean, the Saints are a good team.
Chiefs are looking great.
Steelers got a legit team, so even winning the Super Bowl this year is very hard.
But if you can't beat the Philadelphia Eagles, you could pretty much put it away.
I mean, that is completely I I completely agree.
And I think news stations like ESPN and Barstool and stuff like that or other news stations even unwrapped, will say, Wow, the Eagles beat the Green Bay Packers.
Are they going to be the playoff team at the NFC East and are gonna be hyping up these playoff talks when I'm like, Hold on, hold on a minute.
You people are still gonna be ahead of them.
We're gonna lose a bunch of games.
You still have a tough schedule.
Let's let's hold on the brakes for a for a sack before naming the Eagles of the NFC playoff team.
Will the Packers season be done and people will downplay the Packers.
But people will play the Eagles.
Yeah, I think you don't want that.
I think you're probably in a situation where just give us a top 10 pick.
Yeah, let's drop the linemen.
And what are the odds that that this has ever happened? You know, the Eagles in the running for a top 10 draft pick along with winning their division, and they could win it with less than seven games? Yeah, now, I mean, it doesn't look as bad as you would think.
I mean, we played the two toughest divisions in the NFL, and I said this on one of the unwrapped teams that we played the NFC West and the A F C North, all which have pretty good teams there.
The two toughest divisions, in my opinion, in the NFL and we're not doing terrible against the division, but we're not doing well either, So if we can really win these division games and maybe win one or two non conference games, I think we could be a I think we could be the playoff team. Mm.
And we look in history is passed.
The two teams that have won a division below 500 the 2011 Seattle Seahawks went seven and nine, and the 2014 Panthers, who went 78 a one, actually won their home playoff game.
So records don't matter if you make it to the postseason.
Any given Sunday is possible.
So we could be looking at a situation where the Eagles, somehow some way, have a terrible record.
Yet they host the playoff game.
It could have a good chance to win now.
Granted, in those two times that has happened, there were obviously fans in attendance.
You know, beast.
Quake was born when it was the Seahawks.
And when the Panthers play the Cardinals, it was pretty much know Carson Palmer.
His A C L was Tor, obviously, those playing a different perspectives.
And if the Eagles do make the playoffs, this won't be the playoff atmosphere in Philadelphia.
I'm pretty sure Ben knows as well. Philly fans are rowdy.
Billy fans get wild whenever their teams, they're in the playoffs, they go loud.
They don't care who they're talking.
They'll talk all the smoke.
They'll thrash all the road players.
They'll thrash their own players.
It gets crazy in Philadelphia now.
There won't be any fans in attendance, but you still best believe if Philadelphia gets the playoffs, get into the playoffs.
Whether it's with or without fans, traveling to the link is a different animal.
Just trouble. Yeah, but let me say something.
I mean, the link is just something different.
I mean, being there myself for all these playoff games, it's really tough for opposing teams that here and really communicate at the link, especially with our rowdy fans.
Well, in the city of Philadelphia on, Fortunately, we are going back to shutting things down again.
And there most likely will be no fans the link making it way easier for these opposing teams because they can hear again.
And you're not really having that atmosphere of Philadelphia like you normally would.
So I think that it could play a huge advantage for the road team because now you just have to face the actual team instead of the fans as well.
Look at all these playoff quarterbacks to I'm sorry Matt, Look at all these playoff quarterbacks like the If.
If the playoffs were to start today or tomorrow, you'd have Baker.
Mayfield has never played in a playoff game.
Kyler Murray has never played in a playoff game.
Lamar Jackson and Josh Allan Morrison Doubtless Burger Carson once Aaron Rodgers are, you know, ones that I can think of.
I'm trying to think of the other content like teams that are like in continuing to the playoffs right now.
Brady, um, Jared Goff That's fought so like you have.
You have, of course, what? Brussels But like you have almost half of the quarterbacks, though, that either have yet to play in a playoff game or have so much to prove because Josh Allen people.
Josh Allen, I think, is one of the most slept on quarterbacks in the NFL because people write him off because of that show of performance last year and early in the season, he was putting himself in the M V P race.
I don't think he's not gonna win it.
I think it will be, um, I think it'll be Mahomes.
I think it'll be between my homes and Rogers.
I think Russell Wilson.
Um, for a while, I think that was his to lose.
But now I think Russell wasn't his lost it.
You're starting to see struggles. Exactly.
He's lost your started out.
Um, but, I mean, the Bills, Air Strong team and the Bills.
I think they're gonna be team to be a team for a while now that the Patriots, um, might be done being consistently competitive or, you know, divisional winners for a while.
For a few years, people are gonna consistently write the bills off the map.
Yeah, and a lot of people forget.
Buffalo Bills are eating three.
The Buffalo Bills are eight and three, and a lot of people are sleeping on the Buffalo Bills.
The Buffalo Bills have a good chance to actually win a playoff game for the first time in over 25 years.
They might actually have a chance 20 playoff game this year, and not a lot of people are talking about.
A lot of people are talking about the Steelers in the Chiefs and whoever is in the South Steelers.
I feel like a split in half, though, too, because they don't play anyone.
And they played the Ravens with a trace.
McSorley and RG three.
So they didn't have Lamar playing.
And they did play Tennessee pretty pretty well when they beat them early.
They? Yeah, they played Tennessee, but, like even Baltimore the first time to when they have all the tax's two games out of all the other ones that they've played 11 and office as they have nine games that they played absolutely nobody.
Um, I, for one, still think I think the A F C title game is Steelers Chiefs.
Um, my friend said this and I agree with them.
I think that she's seven easier route to the Super Bowl than they did like than this year than they did last year.
Um, because the NFC this year is not as strong as it was last year.
I think, in a F C team is gonna win.
I bring in his career.
Hey, broke like 12 bones in his 11 ribs, 11 ribs, 88 on eight on one side and three on the other.
I think his career is sadly done.
Um, and now I think they're giving Taysom Hill a shot to see if you can do it.
And I think this is the season where, um, he's gonna start proving the Sean Payton and his game against He was Atlanta like, two weeks ago.
Um, he went off.
He played very well.
And I've always said Taysom Hill can when you games, but not a quarterback.
I've never been a believer in Taysom Hill being a guy that could take over a franchise, but e mean if he show I'm rooting for Taysom Hill.
I've never had anything against Taysom Hill, but he's got a lot to prove because that's the big shoes to fill, Not just the quarterback.
What you're taking over for Drew Brees.
Um, and I don't think it's gonna be Wednesday.
I think Winston's gonna go leave and get another contract somewhere else.
Um, I think the Patriots should get him something.
Cam is gonna be there.
Guy, Um, I think, um, I think some would do very well in a, um in a Belichick system.
I don't think he'd be elite by any means, but I think he'd be a quarterback that be good enough to win them football games.
I don't think he wouldn't be the Cam Newton the way Cam Newton is right now, but another I've I've said this to Matt to like a team toe.
Watching the draft to make some noise for a quarterback is the sense.
The Saints are definitely team to watch out for in the draft, and you make you make good points like an NFC team does definitely have have a great chance to win the Super Bowl this year.
I mean, even the NFC as well.
Like, you know, the Saints.
When Breeze comes back, you know, if he does, you know, even the way how Taysom Hill's play, I think they'll still be fine without Breeze.
I think I think what the States will probably do is just simply wait himself.
Breezes like 100% ready to go, not rushing back like, Oh, just because we need you in the playoffs, Bob thing.
I don't think he's playing in the playoffs.
Even even even the thing with the Saints is, can they replicate the regular season success and a postseason success? What the Saints remind me of are my favorite baseball team, the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Before we won the World Series this year, it was hard watching the Dodgers in the postseason.
You're in and you're out successful regular season when the division, but they would choke in the playoffs.
That's what the Saints have done the last three years.
They've made the postseason.
They've had fantastic regular season records, but every time they make it to the playoffs, they'd find a way to choke in the playoffs.
Whether it was the Minneapolis Miracle in 2017 were all Marcus Williams has to do is tackled digs and they're in the NFC championship game.
Do the state's going with Who will that year? I don't know.
That Philadelphia Eagles team was something special.
That was a storybook team.
I don't think they go that far, but you best believe in 2018 if they would not have missed that call.
And if the Saints wanna have messed up in overtime, you best believe they wouldn't want that suitable.
I'll tell you right off the Saints make it Super 53.
They would have beat the L A Rams.
They would have beat the Rams, and Breeze would have retired as a champion in 2018.
Now a lot of people want to say the ref screwed over the Saints, which they did.
You don't you don't that That should have been a P I call, but the ST still had a chance to win the game.
You still could have held the Rams to not have a field goal to force overtime, and you have the ball first and over time.
So there is essentially no excuses for the States.
You were given ample opportunity to win that game, and you chucked it away.
Even the same situation last year against the Minnesota Vikings.
You're playing at the six seed Vikings, and you're 13 and three at the Dome.
You fall down 20 to 10.
Granted, you come back and force overtime, but your defense lets you down.
The one time Marshall Lattimore isn't in the game, Kirk Cousins throws a deep ball to feeling, and you're inside the five.
Two plays later, it's Ah, it's a mix mismatch kind of play between believers Kyle Rudolph and Williams, obviously both hands shoving back and forth.
Rudolph wins the match game over.
People want to save his offensive.
I say it was a good note call.
They're both fighting for the ball but Saints this year, This could really be the final right with Brees, especially with that ribs injury.
This could be it for the Saints if they want to try to make a run with Drew Brees.
And that's a big if, because NFC teams are very good this year.
Grieving Packers are a team not not to sleep on. Granted.
We've had some bad losses, very bad losses, the Vikings, the Colts and the Bucks. Where we played.
It has been very bad, but you best believe Aaron Rodgers in the postseason with how opponent this offenses.
This offense is so much better this year than last year's office.
Toe watch was a disaster because you've got one or the other you've got either.
Good were very bad this year.
This offense is fun to watch.
I love watching this offense.
I look forward to watching this offense.
I love watching this. Aaron Rodgers.
The kit THAT doesn't care. Rogers.
I see him on the Pat McAfee show, just having a blast, telling it how it is.
That's the end, Roger that.
Green Day's a team not not to sleep on.
Even Seattle is well, even though Seattle's defense is very suspect, and they're pretty much pretty much relying on Russell Wilson if we're being if we're being brutally honest, If Russell Wilson can cook, they win.
If he doesn't cook, they lose.
That's pretty much how the Seahawks are going.
I mean, look at when the Seahawks have lost.
When they lost the Cardinals, what happened? Well, not a bad game.
When the Seahawks lost to the Rams, What happened? Russell Wilson did not have a good game.
And what what was the other? Was there other loss that they had another loss as well? But it was once again well, Wilson didn't didn't have a good game.
It was about the Bills.
There's the Bills, Will Wilson and have a good game and then lose.
So you know we'll see what happens.
It's definitely going to be.
I'm going to be an exciting, exciting rest of the regular season.
This is the time where the contenders separate themselves from the Pretenders that we 13 to 17.
That's when you get to see who really wants it.
How badly does the Green Bay Packers want the number one seed? How badly do the Eagles want to claim the NFC least.
How badly do they want it? That's that's what's gonna be the thing and this game.
And even for the rest of the teams in the NFL going down the stretch.
How badly do they want it? Because I'm telling you right now, whoever wants it, they're gonna play the hardest.
And that's even that's even with with this game.
Doesn't matter what the record is.
It doesn't matter that Green Bay's 18 3 in Philadelphia's 371 whoever wants it more is going to take care of business this game, and I will conclude it with this.
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Do you have anything to shout out or anything to add on? Yes.
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