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in real life.
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Um, what kind of about seven episodes? 17 years. Do adult.
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I got the number right this time.
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It's all good this time.
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So I know you've been there.
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Um, yes.
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So I'm back at it.
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I'm Chris. Trevor.
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Feel free to Communist of the chat.
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You have.
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Anything would ask us while we're talking or tweet at me.
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See, underscore more six insurers.
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That's Berlin to, um Yeah, and if you wanna get going But before we get going or did you wanna talk about Trevor? Um, Sarah Fuller, right? Yeah, that's her.
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Now kicked off for Vanderbilt.
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First woman ever to play for.
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Ah, um, Big Five Conference football team.
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Ah, I just I wanted to say first of all, congratulations.
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I mean, it's, you know, a little sad.
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That's 2020.
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And, you know, it was the first time because soccer players can boot the hell out of the ball.
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I'm surprised sometimes I haven't done this little earlier, but good thing to her.
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And, uh, it was a good squib kick for those who couldn't tell, it was very obviously a squib kick.
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It was not just a really bad kick.
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I want to get out of the way.
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Um, and also I mean, screw you, Vanderbilt.
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I mean, you guys can't even get into field goal range like I want to see her just like mash of 40.
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Yarder. At least attempt on.
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You got blanked by Missouri like that's that's set like you guys.
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Come on, let's let's be better on that.
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Let's be better.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure they wanted to set it up where you get the field goal, but they just It was a rough game for them.
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Yeah, do you think started a new trend thing to see, like more like women, be kickers in football in general? I would hope so, because, like I said, football players can put the hell out of the ball, especially goalies like they take a soccer ball and they halfway down the field like just sitting there.
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Um, so accuracy, obviously, like that's you know, that's something that's different.
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But I mean, it's not like they just send it down the field willy nilly either.
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So I think I don't know if you'll start a trend, but I think it will definitely be something we're like.
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It's going to be a little more common.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I sure hope so.
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That really good sign.
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Just forgetting the out there because there is no moments before or anything.
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So I think that really quoted kinda have that, but yeah, but I think for kickoff is gonna be a little bit harder, because, I mean, you got a tackle on, then it would be hard to kind of like tackle against men in the open field of running a B.
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Those two returners.
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I would be really hard, I think like field goals were like a school kid like today.
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Like that would work just fine.
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So I think it could be sort of like a new trend.
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And I think it be cool to came to see, like, women go to get the opportunity to coach more.
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To be kind of cool.
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Maybe this kind of opened up that door.
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They could be kind of coaching field goal kickers and stuff, you know? So it kind of opened up that door, too.
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So you could say I'm getting more diversity in that sense.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Um, yeah.
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So stick into college football.
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I mean, yeah, I was a heartbreaker for me.
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I mean, I mentioned the episodes of Gun Big Oregon Ducks fan.
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I mean, he acts like I've always liked ever since I was in middle school, because they do the horns and all the gear in the field and everything.
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And yeah, heartbreaking lasted rival Oregon State.
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Yeah, so I mean, obviously only three point laws.
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But I still apart her through chances.
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Ah, lot for making the playoffs.
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Uh huh.
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Would it takes over Trevor for them this year? Probably.
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And I'm also from Why would you think they lost this game? Yeah, it's It's over.
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Um, there's no way that they have a chance.
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Alabama looked **** good today.
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Um, they beat the brakes off of auburn.
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Um, looking up the score without next David to He didn't coach today? Yeah. 13.
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That's no joke.
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Um, Ohio State didn't play, but they'll hold.
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You know, Florida looked good.
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Clemson's looking good so far against Pittsburgh. Notre Dame's winning.
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Um, you know now they have a loss there on the same, you know, level is, you know, Clemson, Texas A and M, Florida, Miami, Indiana, Wisconsin, even, um, and Wisconsin Obviously not gonna make it, But the point is like they have the same amount of losses, this team and they already have, you know, shorten season.
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We talked about this.
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They have to go undefeated and they need luck.
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And they lost.
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And they look bad to, you know, on that final sequence there, a couple of bad calls on their favor still couldn't stop him.
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Um, it's over for them, but they are going to be a very sneaky team in the bowl season, for sure, because they will not have played that many games.
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They shouldn't be too banged up.
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And, you know, there's still a very good team.
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Yeah, I mean, like, I was just on the very first game, like they're down by 14 the first quarter.
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I mean, they've been shaking all year long.
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It's like, Oh, it's probably not that you could make the playoffs.
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Essentially, they basically a top 14 for that.
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I wish this was the year that they expand the playoffs.
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They will be really fitting for this kind.
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Expand, maybe have had something.
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They're more of a chance.
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But that 14? Yeah, that they would have to like, pretty much run the table on, like have very convincing wins and even from the get go out and see that, I mean, obviously it's a route from, but yeah, I mean, Oregon fan, but I don't see it happening either.
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It's like, unfortunately, so they're really ***ual my team.
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Now my question is like, How does it both ceiling work is like a normal bowl season this year.
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Is it like shorten? Or how is it like I don't know how it's working to see.
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I think it's about normal.
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Um, but I I really like I really wish I agree with you.
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I really wish there is an 18 playoff.
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Uh, should be one permanently, in my opinion, should always be a need to play off.
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Yeah, I think you know.
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Four.
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Yeah, and there's always, you know, there's always a tough thing about five.
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I don't think any of the playoff spot should be guaranteed, Like I don't think the Big 12 should always have a spot stuff like that.
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Um, but I mean, like, I'm looking at these teams.
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Florida has one Moss, and there's six.
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The food is good.
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Texas.
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Yeah, Cincinnati.
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They haven't really played anybody but Ritter.
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Their quarterback is very good.
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People don't talk about him a lot.
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You know, You got some good teams up there, Obviously Northwestern.
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Um, well, I mean, this game is pretty much over five seconds up.
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They have it on their own nine yard line down three to Michigan State, who is one and three.
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So their chances air basically shot.
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But, um, you know, it's it should be an 18 playoff.
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Um, but I mean, for some reason, they just love pushing back on it.
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I don't know, but this year should be a regular bull schedule.
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I know if I like that, but that's the move they decided to make.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like, I never really been a bowl games that they need to kind of pointless in Lane, like I really watch any bowls, have the ages.
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I don't see the point of them, really.
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I really just have a bigger playoff format. That's just my opinion.
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E.
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I mean, like, it's better than the two teams play out.
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They have the longest time because we just two teams just for the championship.
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That was really best Lisa's kind of playoffs.
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But yeah, I mean, like this especially because I like the postponements of canceled games and shortened season, will be nice of 18 plant police.
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Try it.
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But e think should be a permanent thing.
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For sure.
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Thing is to, you know, you talk about the bowl games and I agree to a point.
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Um, like, you know, the Birmingham ble and the, you know, Liberty Bowl and the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl like those air Pretty stupid.
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But like, you know, I feel like they should really shorten it down and I get it's all about money for them.
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But, uh, let's kind of down to, you know, the Cotton Bowls, the beach balls, the Rose Bowl's Let's cut.
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You know, Capital one bowls, like anything that actually like means something.
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Yeah, but like those bowl games like you could make them into playoff games, That's like, Well, that's how I view it to You could make them into playoff games.
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So true.
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You know, it's just, you know, something for me.
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It just I kind of feel a little bit like, um, it serves kind of like a purpose of, like the n i t.
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In college basketball.
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They're really good teams to win the N I T.
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And then next year come back and be very good or get good recruiting classes.
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I think that's kind of the same if they shorten them down, um, and still have some, even without the playoffs.
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But, I mean, I think we can both agree, even if we disagree on that, that some of these Bulls are just ridiculous like, yeah, 17.
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It likes exactly.
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Yeah, it goes too far.
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But yeah, we'll say, Like I think it does help recruiting those because, like when you're creating players, that heavy will be one like Rose Bowl last year.
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So the kind of doesn't putting in that sense to even in basketball, he said, You want the N I t.
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That That's like a good sign, your head cat in the right direction.
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So, yes, it doesn't hurt.
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In that sense, I'll give you that.
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But yeah, then another big game from yesterday.
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Um, it was a Notre Dame North Carolina.
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Why don't you watch this game? It was a really good game to watch throughout.
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The Notre Dame roared in the second half and pulling out that game.
00:09:22
Um, yes.
00:09:23
How did this game make you feel like? Does that give you more? More faith and confidence in Notre Dame? Does it like the same thing I've been saying all year? That there are fixing? It's the same thing, Uh, this North Carolina team? I don't think Is that good? Um, e I know you like somehow I don't think he's that good.
00:09:43
I'm gonna be honest with that.
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I really don't think he's that good of a quarterback.
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Um, you know, 24 touchdown, six picks, 2800 yards, that's all well and fine.
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That's good.
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It is Completion percentages.
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Album credit.
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It's decent, you know, 67%.
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Well, that Z album credit you go.
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But, you know, I look at this team and they be Syracuse.
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Syracuse is garbage.
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Charlotte was canceled.
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Boston College.
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They beat by four, uh, a suspect.
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I'll give you that.
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This is pretty suspect.
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I mean, they beat a very overrated Virginia Tech team by 11.
00:10:23
They lose to Florida State, maybe a no overrated team in NC State.
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They've been badly.
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And then they come right back and they lose to Virginia.
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And then they beat Duke as they should.
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They give up 53 to Wake Forest, then they'd come back.
00:10:39
I mean, I This team just doesn't impress me.
00:10:43
I mean, you know, the one most impressive game is that went at home against 23 NC State, 48 21.
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But then you come back and lose 44 to 41 at home.
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And the inconsistency just doesn't make sense.
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Like you'll give up 22 points one week and then 45 the next.
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So their defense can obviously play well.
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But they just don't.
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And 31 points against Notre Dame is not bad giving up that many, but scoring only 17.
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It's like, Boy, I'm just nothing impresses me about this team.
00:11:17
Yeah, I mean, like, So I walked on the A.
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C C.
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Football community.
00:11:20
I was like a city football and like North Carolina, looking for a lot of basketball.
00:11:23
So, like, I still follow the ball team and get me like I like saying how like like he's pretty good stats, like he seems Avery like, composed player.
00:11:30
But yeah, I say the defense has been very consistent this year, like that's something that's been the biggest like weak point.
00:11:36
Like even that logical Florida State like that was all defense because, like, demons played horrible again, just giving up passes, left and right.
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The photo state team.
00:11:44
So, I mean, I like somehow at the same time, like it is the same team, the same school Mr Risky came from.
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Look up.
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He turned on the NFL.
00:11:52
So e mean a whole same house, isn't that? But, I mean, I remember watching too risky.
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I was not a fan of him.
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And how lucky were hyping him up? I I didn't see it, but I think I somehow was a better player with Mr Risky with North Carolina.
00:12:03
But it is similar height, which that's scary to me, though.
00:12:07
Yeah, I would completely agree.
00:12:09
I didn't see any hype at all for true Boesky.
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I watched that ball game against Stanford.
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I brought it up before.
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He was horrible.
00:12:16
He couldn't make Yeah, but people still have to month. I mean, he was drafted.
00:12:19
What, second overall? People like I didn't see it, though.
00:12:23
Yeah, and, you know, and I look at this Notre Dame team and you know that you could say, Oh, they played a great team or they, you know, I'm not sold in North Carolina and I looked at this Notre Dame team and maybe Duke by 14, which is not that good.
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They beat Florida State by 16, which it's two possessions, but that's not that great.
00:12:45
Global 12 to 7.
00:12:47
I mean, come on.
00:12:49
They needed overtime for Clemson without Trevor Lawrence, Boston College 14, um, and North Carolina by 14.
00:13:01
Like like they're getting winds, They're getting results.
00:13:02
But if you're the yeah, but like if you're the number two team in the nation like act like it like I I guess for me, I'm just putting them up against in Alabama, who is curb stopping everybody.
00:13:16
Their closest game was first came to this season or no third game this season, when they put up 63 on Ole Miss won, 63 48.
00:13:27
I mean, that's the number one team like they gave up 48.
00:13:31
But outside of that game, their defense has been good.
00:13:34
And so I just look at what Notre Dame's down.
00:13:35
It doesn't match up for number two for me.
00:13:39
Yeah.
00:13:40
I mean, like, I know you're a big guardian here, but yeah, I was stationed in generally I think a C c better than sec.
00:13:45
Like in that sense, because, like, sec like I mean, like in Alabama's division has been a lot of really good team.
00:13:51
This is the best team in Auburn and, like obviously their 22nd the nation and five and three.
00:13:56
So they weren't like amazing.
00:13:57
But obviously, Alabama curbs on dumb.
00:13:59
So you got a question, their level of talent to I'm like the game again.
00:14:05
Some old miss like, um not Ole Miss Mississippi State or whatever.
00:14:09
Um, Katie Castella dominated stuff.
00:14:12
Now it has been a very pedestrian.
00:14:13
So, like the same time, like how good is their competition? They had a question like, There's I would still say the SEC is better.
00:14:21
Obviously, Alabama's the number one team in the country.
00:14:23
I don't think that's really arguable.
00:14:25
After this week, UM, Texas A and M their one loss to Alabama, which hard to blame them for that? Georgia has lost 21 to Alabama, one to Florida.
00:14:37
Who's directly above them? Um, that's another division that I'm talking about. The Alabama.
00:14:42
The SEC was used, you know, you know, and I look at Florida and they've only lost the Texas A and M by three.
00:14:49
Um so Alabama cells, Texas A and M with, um um, you know these teams, they're beating each other up.
00:14:55
I'd still say the SEC is better because I these teams are proving it Weekend week out.
00:15:01
HTC is not bad, especially Clemson's looking good.
00:15:05
But, you know, I think I need to see Notre Dame won a title before I can buy into them ever again.
00:15:10
To be honest, Yeah.
00:15:13
One thing I hope to is like, I hope No, that actually moves a c permanently.
00:15:16
Summer a c football.
00:15:17
They're always been independent doing their own thing.
00:15:19
They want their own TV deal.
00:15:20
But this year they wanted to go the A C C because they had no comfort to play and commerce only.
00:15:25
So I hopefully that they can kind of merge into, like, on a C C. Permanently.
00:15:29
I think that we really get 50 sec football.
00:15:31
Kind of like bringing more hype and stuff.
00:15:34
Yeah, for sure.
00:15:35
And I mean, you look at the a C c outside of them.
00:15:38
Um, it's I'm sorry, but it's pathetic.
00:15:42
Um, you know, it's take out in order dame the next best team is Miami.
00:15:47
Who, um I'm sorry.
00:15:50
They're not right.
00:15:52
Yeah, They got Curb stomped by Clemson.
00:15:55
They beat Virginia Tech by one NC state by three.
00:15:58
Virginia by five.
00:16:00
Pittsburgh 12.
00:16:01
Like they're not beating anybody.
00:16:04
Buy anything impressive.
00:16:06
And then behind that is North Carolina and then a whole bunch of garbage.
00:16:09
So, um, I pump the brakes on a c c being better in as, see a little bit.
00:16:16
But, you know, it's your point about Notre Dame.
00:16:18
If Notre Dame gets in there, that's a whole new ballgame.
00:16:21
For sure.
00:16:23
Yeah, it's definitely something we gotta keep on eye on for eso.
00:16:29
Yeah, so, yeah, it's the Northwestern lost Michigan State.
00:16:33
You are Northwestern's chances probably done or giving the victim west in general like there's no chance for like them really make any noise. Yeah.
00:16:40
Big 10 shot.
00:16:41
Um, at least the west, um, Northwestern has a lost their went over Wisconsin.
00:16:47
Wasn't impressive.
00:16:48
Um, I a was Iowa has two losses.
00:16:51
Wisconsin as one loss, but, um, even if they went out, the only other win would be against Indiana.
00:16:59
How many games they play, like four games, like three games.
00:17:01
And it seems like they play like no games Well, and, you know, they play like no games.
00:17:07
I mean, they weren't even in the consideration before we talked about this, but, you know, and then I looked out at Indiana.
00:17:14
Um, I know Michael Penick's got hurt, but I said he was extremely overrated, and he got hurt halfway through the game.
00:17:22
But still, he was six for 19 with 84 yards like, yeah, that's not good.
00:17:28
That's not good.
00:17:29
So even if Wisconsin were to beat Indiana with a fully healthy panics, it means literally, nothing.
00:17:38
S o.
00:17:39
You know Northwestern is gonna make because they never get respect anyways.
00:17:42
So at all those things together, if they don't have a shot, nobody in the Big 10 West.
00:17:48
Mhm.
00:17:49
That's a good point.
00:17:50
Yeah.
00:17:51
I mean, like, we're both Big 10 guys.
00:17:52
They love the big time for the Big 10 West, because, I mean, I'm Minnesota, your Wisconsin, but yeah, it's not a good Big 10 year.
00:17:59
Besides Ohio State, they've looked suspect to, at times with their defense.
00:18:03
Like I called it up before the seasons.
00:18:04
I hate the deep.
00:18:05
It's gonna be suspect, and it's a little bit of question marks, so we'll see how the rest of that shapes out for sure.
00:18:13
Switching gears a little bit.
00:18:14
Thio Professional football? Um, there hasn't been breaking is within the last hour the Denver Broncos.
00:18:21
We're gonna have no quarterbacks.
00:18:23
Absolutely none. They're all out.
00:18:26
What's your reaction about that? Um, well, I mean, they're not going to forfeit.
00:18:34
Yeah, they're not corporate.
00:18:35
And they said no quarterback.
00:18:37
So it's admirable, I guess.
00:18:40
But, um, they're playing the Saints.
00:18:44
I don't care whose quarterback for the Saints.
00:18:47
This was going to be a shellacking anyways, and now they have Royce Freeman.
00:18:52
They're running back, is the emergency quarterback.
00:18:55
I'm sure he will be a serviceable emergency quarterback, but he's just that, uh, this is it.
00:19:02
Saints might win by 30 plus points.
00:19:06
Um, boy, this is this is going to get really ugly.
00:19:11
I really don't know what the Broncos air playing for, I guess if they wanna tank ah, loss helps that.
00:19:19
But a boy, it's tough.
00:19:23
It's really tough.
00:19:25
I know.
00:19:26
Like I've never heard situation like that is just crazy.
00:19:28
You have no quarterbacks on, like eligible.
00:19:30
They got skinny insane.
00:19:31
They are very curious to see how it plays out, Like my tune in for a little bit to see, Like what? How actually Looks like I'm just curious to see how it looks.
00:19:38
E was tasting Hill starting tomorrow against I'm starting again, right? Like we might as well shoot like this game.
00:19:45
Like, I think this should be the game.
00:19:48
You throwing Jamis, Winston, You got nothing to lose.
00:19:52
Yeah, Yeah.
00:19:54
I mean, just a shame, because there's a very 2020 things like doing this could happen like other teams, potentially as it goes down, because in the NFL, the train down still the all facilities, every team is Monday and Tuesday.
00:20:07
It's like, Is that a good time? Like things to come? You think it already has Ravens and Steelers? The Ravens got pushed back and I was Steelers and Steelers fans.
00:20:19
I was ****ed.
00:20:20
I thought it was a joke.
00:20:22
Um, I think the Steelers should have gotten a forfeit.
00:20:26
But the Steelers are getting some positives now, too.
00:20:31
And those positives don't come out of thin air.
00:20:33
So if they would have played Thursday, um, some of these positives came Friday and some Saturday during a button I can't believe I'm saying this.
00:20:42
I think Benefit actually did the right thing because this would have been cataclysmic of those teams played with those players.
00:20:49
It's happening.
00:20:51
I think the NFL has to cancel the Tuesday night game.
00:20:55
Um, because, you know, they pushed back both these teams games next week, too.
00:21:01
But even then, like if some of these guys get it from the other team, much less their own players, Monday night's game is in jeopardy, too.
00:21:09
Like you've got to cut your losses here.
00:21:11
So it's happening again.
00:21:13
I think it's gonna happen in streets like it has.
00:21:15
You know, Tennessee early in the season.
00:21:18
I think you cancel it.
00:21:20
It'll kind of be or run a low for a little bit, hopefully to lend a season.
00:21:24
But you know, if they play it, it's going to keep happening.
00:21:28
It's gonna keep your saying canceled Tuesday's game.
00:21:30
Anything getting on a cancel this trade off.
00:21:33
I think they need to and I think they will and that hurts me because I need a win from somebody else in fantasy football and they have, like three Steelers on their team, Um, so it's gonna kick me in the butt.
00:21:47
But, I mean, I think you have to cancel it.
00:21:49
I mean, it is so bad.
00:21:51
And within three days, what we're going to see on the field is gonna be garbage.
00:21:57
And on top of that, um, it's just not safe.
00:22:01
Yeah.
00:22:02
I mean, like, at this point, like, I'm pretty sure both teams were, like, quarantining and like, each player instead of doing the right thing.
00:22:08
So it's, like, not further spread the disease.
00:22:10
So I think it probably be okay for Tuesday.
00:22:12
Let's just see how the test come back on tomorrow, on Monday to kind of reassure to kind of see Okay, how things look.
00:22:20
But yeah.
00:22:21
I mean, like, I think Tuesday probably possibly could, but, like, straight up canceling it like that gets a lot, a lot of money.
00:22:27
So, like, and I felt owners, they do not like giving up money.
00:22:30
So, like, there'll be a huge, huge loss to get somehow it just cancel that game.
00:22:35
So yeah, and I see that I think, you know, just for me, the Ravens, obviously reports are coming out about they're not following all the protocols.
00:22:46
Um, and now the Steelers had a lot of guys come positive, which they haven't played a game in a while.
00:22:53
So either, you know, either they broke some rules to or, you know, something happened because it has blown up in the Steelers locker room.
00:23:03
Yeah, I would say, probably just like the quiet defying protocol, because they haven't played for a while being laxed.
00:23:09
And I mean, at this point, I mean, I don't like I could speak for you, but, like, sometimes I get tired of, they're just hearing my Kobe kind of just I'm just tired of us doing all this stuff.
00:23:18
You kind of get a little lax sometimes.
00:23:20
So, I mean, I could see them doing that to essentially Yeah, a To this point, I think you just gotta cut that game out, push it toe, you know, Eight seed player 18, playoff.
00:23:31
Um, I think fans would love it.
00:23:32
And, you know, it's a big game to both teams were like in the playoff funds.
00:23:37
You remember that, too? Look, it's not just, like, serious against, like the Jets or something like the game actually means.
00:23:44
So it's important to at the same time for me, you know, I look at the Steelers.
00:23:48
Um, they have not clinched yet, but they're 10.
00:23:52
And no, I mean, really, they need to win one or two more games to clinch.
00:23:57
And if you can't do that, you shouldn't be in the playoffs.
00:24:00
Um, I think it's gonna hurt the Ravens more right now.
00:24:03
They're in eighth at six and four, um, behind the Raiders, on strength of victory, her conference games or whatever.
00:24:11
Um, it's gonna hurt the Ravens.
00:24:13
Maura. I don't think it really hurts the Steelers.
00:24:15
And guess what? When the Ravens Ravens really didn't follow rules, they said they'd strike down on it.
00:24:22
You know, they haven't in the past.
00:24:23
This is your chance to really strike down because that would hurt their playoff chances.
00:24:27
Um, I think they should, but we'll see what NFL decides on.
00:24:34
Yeah.
00:24:35
I mean, like, it be interesting.
00:24:36
We'll know for sure.
00:24:37
Probably maybe tomorrow night or Monday, for sure.
00:24:40
Kind of see how that plays out.
00:24:42
You can always push it back to a week eight to have ideas floating around that some game could be pushed it that week, so they might be doing that Teoh to kind of save the money.
00:24:50
So that's always an option to, uh, sticking to NFL.
00:24:56
Um, how about some things giving Get? Yeah.
00:24:59
So the Washington football team beat Beat the Cowboys bad? Um, yeah.
00:25:04
So they're leading the NFC East leader, not the Washington football team.
00:25:08
I mean, you talked about him early in the season, said, Hey, this team could win the division and it's currently sitting at number one.
00:25:15
Uh, they could hold on to the spot and eagles to get him.
00:25:19
Or what do you think? I think they can.
00:25:22
Oddly enough, you know, the Eagles are really falling apart.
00:25:27
Um, you know, And then I look their plan to Seahawks this week.
00:25:33
They're playing at Green Bay next week.
00:25:35
Do we know Green Bay doesn't have a great a defense, but they should win this game.
00:25:42
Then they play the Saints, and then they play at the Cardinals.
00:25:46
I don't think they'll win any of those four games at most of all in one, in which case they're going to be, what, 49 and one.
00:25:56
And then they play at Cowboys and then against Washington.
00:26:00
I think they might want to the rest of season and you know they're really the only threat toe Washington and I look at Washington.
00:26:11
The end the season.
00:26:12
They have Steelers.
00:26:14
That's gonna be tough.
00:26:15
But 40 Niners that could be winnable form.
00:26:18
Seahawks Probably lost with them.
00:26:20
Panthers at Eagles.
00:26:21
They could likely when three out of the last five year.
00:26:24
Um, so that and having, ah, full game on Dallas having the tiebreaker round Dallas.
00:26:31
Um, And with New York and Philly plan as they are, I think they will win this division.
00:26:37
Yeah, I just talk because, like the Washington football team, you were right there.
00:26:40
Demons to the real deal.
00:26:41
Like I like their defense.
00:26:42
Ah, lot especially like I really do.
00:26:45
But their offices So suspects like I don't know if I can trust the offense.
00:26:49
That's just a big, huge question, mark.
00:26:51
That's why I I'll probably and pick the equals.
00:26:54
I think I think it be really close, so you'll come down back to the last few games.
00:26:58
But our podcast like, enjoy the equal because they just have more talent.
00:27:01
I mean, yeah, like their talent is hurt, but, like, I mean, they have experience with, like, Peterson.
00:27:06
And once I know they have a very relationship right now.
00:27:08
They obviously have been a lot of like everything reports about that and like how they've been fighting behind the scenes.
00:27:14
But I would say I have to go the ego based on experience without alone mean that Locker knows, like how to sneak e mean they did it last year.
00:27:22
They snuck into the playoffs last year.
00:27:23
We thought it would be the Cowboys all year long.
00:27:25
They can't gain down to the last game this season.
00:27:27
The ego snuck it in there, so I think they could find a way to stumble into the playoffs.
00:27:32
I mean, it won't be pretty, but probably like 44 55 wins is probably to get in the playoffs.
00:27:39
Should be sad, but I could see them like getting five or six.
00:27:42
Getting in.
00:27:43
Yeah, and I look at the Giants schedule.
00:27:45
They play the Seahawks, Cardinals, Browns, Ravens.
00:27:48
Um, they're probably gonna lose those four games at most.
00:27:51
They'll probably went to.
00:27:52
And, you know, you talked about the Eagles sneaking in with five wins.
00:27:56
You know, I just look at this Washington schedule.
00:27:59
Um, you know, like I said, just the offensive question exam.
00:28:04
Question the offense first, but I think you know, you know, division like this. That's so bad.
00:28:10
Terry McLaurin Check downs to Gibson and this defense.
00:28:16
I think you combine it all.
00:28:18
It's good enough to get them two more wins, which will take him to six.
00:28:24
I don't see in this division.
00:28:26
All I need is like six wins.
00:28:27
You probably got it.
00:28:28
If you get six point, which is that I can't believe we're saying six wins you're in the is just unbelievable.
00:28:34
And I will say, um, you know, obviously they blew up the Cowboys.
00:28:38
But through 11 games, Washington's four and seven their point differential is only minus two over the whole season.
00:28:46
So you know, I always point.
00:28:48
Differential minus 108.
00:28:50
Giants minus 41 equals minus 34.
00:28:53
Not saying this team is a great team, but maybe this team should be a little closer to 500.
00:28:58
Who knows? Yeah, we're very interested here to see how that plays out.
00:29:03
I mean, obviously will be pretty like whoever like ends up coming out of there.
00:29:06
But I mean, like, some of their so bad, it's interesting, You know what I mean.
00:29:11
like how it is.
00:29:13
It's so crazy.
00:29:16
6. 20 and get in the playoffs.
00:29:18
It's gonna be interesting with the draft two.
00:29:20
I mean, you're gonna have a team at six and 10.
00:29:22
We usually get, like, a top 15 pick.
00:29:24
And now their playoff team pick like, Oh, boy.
00:29:28
Yeah, that's tough, but I'm trying to rebuild.
00:29:31
Or anything to add on that.
00:29:33
Be tough.
00:29:34
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:29:35
I didn't think about that, Um, sticking to just previous ing some games tomorrow.
00:29:42
Um, So there's two big games that I kind of from highlighted.
00:29:47
Um, So you have the bears Packers? What do you think they checked out of this game? You're gonna pretty team was all year long.
00:29:56
Pretty much doing pretty goods.
00:29:57
Has the bus can kind of three spy surprise.
00:30:00
I would say about this game.
00:30:02
Um, I'm looking at the line right now, and it's Green Bay by 9.
00:30:05
5 points.
00:30:06
I think that's a joke.
00:30:08
Um, I don't think Green Bay is gonna win by 10 or more points.
00:30:12
I love the Packers, and I think the Packers very well should win by more than 10 points.
00:30:19
But you know, we've talked about.
00:30:21
This is a rivalry game.
00:30:23
Um, those always hit different.
00:30:25
They're very rarely blowouts.
00:30:27
This defense is legit for the Bears.
00:30:29
They might be the best in the league if not top five.
00:30:33
Uh, probably up there.
00:30:35
Yeah, but I mean, the point is still there.
00:30:39
And the pack? Yeah.
00:30:41
Yeah.
00:30:42
And the Packers did look good against the Colts defense, and they are going to play an easier offense and the Bears.
00:30:49
But man, patent, just he just can't get it together.
00:30:54
And he said they figured they'd be playing Travis Key and they'd game plan it.
00:30:59
I just don't trust him.
00:31:00
I think this is going to be It's either going to be something like 31 to 10 Packers, or it's going to be like a sloppy, you know, 24 toe.
00:31:11
You know, 13 game Packers.
00:31:13
I think they win, but I think it's just a game that nobody really enjoys watching.
00:31:19
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm pretty sure All Bears team all year long has been like that.
00:31:22
I mean, like, I watched the Bears game always very low scoring, just very ugly to watch because there's a great defense with terrible offense.
00:31:30
So I mean, all the games are pretty much like That's only surprised you end up being like that, but yeah, like it's a It's a Lambo.
00:31:38
Yeah, no crowd either.
00:31:40
So I mean, like, I think it makes a huge difference.
00:31:42
Especially because they're used to the cold.
00:31:43
Mean like, the practicing Chicago, the brackets, the lake.
00:31:46
Like that's just his windy and cold, too, but yeah, yeah, Mr Brisky, I'm just like I'm not a huge fan of him.
00:31:56
I mean, I know the polls, the past you would have like the best, but I think like a turnaround, Nicole should be probably healthy by then.
00:32:02
And I think he's really good at the end of season.
00:32:04
Kind of finishing finishing the season now I'm going to the playoffs is really good in past, like, both whole bunch of in Philadelphia that he was starting.
00:32:12
And he did that and he did a fantastic I want to Bone VP next year.
00:32:16
Upset the bears and the in the first division around order.
00:32:20
No, no wild card is the wild card, but, um yeah, so I think this game will probably get the edge of the Packers because I don't trust.
00:32:28
But Robiskie butting seconds around Chicago with both.
00:32:31
Probably, I probably think I'm just put it so And that's what about I will say, you know, when you know the Packers lost to the Vikings.
00:32:41
The Vikings were one and five.
00:32:45
Andi was a really good gift right game.
00:32:47
Like you said, it was like their Super Bowl Bears have lost four straight in their last seven.
00:32:52
So you know, this could be a game where obviously, I want the Packers to win.
00:32:56
But this could be exactly the same thing, especially in a game where if the Bears lose, uh, that's a three game difference.
00:33:05
They're not.
00:33:06
Make that up in six weeks against Aaron Rodgers.
00:33:09
It's just not gonna happen.
00:33:10
All mostly gets hurt.
00:33:11
He has a good point to, you know, the better.
00:33:13
Definitely more desperate for a win than the Packers right now.
00:33:16
Bears like they're in trouble for eggnog make playoff because I don't know if they meet a wild card.
00:33:20
So, like they really, really need this win with the Packers.
00:33:24
Have a lot more cushion.
00:33:25
So you have a good point to bring up to and hey, bears have a really good schedule. Moving forward.
00:33:31
Um, after packers, they got Lions, Texans, Vikings, Jaguars.
00:33:35
Um, they should win all of those moving into week 17 against Green Bay at home.
00:33:41
Um, I'm just saying, that could be another week 17 Classic.
00:33:45
But instead of the week Aaron Rodgers on Sunday night against the Bears four.
00:33:50
And oh, I think 16 touchdowns, no interceptions.
00:33:53
So we'll see what we're breaks.
00:33:56
Yeah, The interesting game, the bears way.
00:33:59
I'm definitely talking a lot of smack like episode.
00:34:01
You know, I am just kind of like I can't even hate, because, I mean, what can I say? That would be pretty sad if the Packers lose.
00:34:12
Yeah. I mean, like, it's been good years talking smack.
00:34:14
I don't really like to beat down with the but the bucks are Vikings beating them.
00:34:18
And like colts being them mvs bumble like it's been a good year talking smack as a anti Packer fan.
00:34:26
I mean, I like how it took.
00:34:29
You couldn't really talk that much smack against the Colts game because I literally told you exactly what was gonna happen.
00:34:34
E told you they're gonna look good and disappoint you.
00:34:39
Um, so Hopefully, a typical thing out of it happening if the bears one.
00:34:44
But I realized I just said I don't see the Packers winning by 10.
00:34:47
And I predicted they won by 11.
00:34:49
I just thought about that.
00:34:51
So all of in my scored, like, 24 like 16.
00:34:54
Something like that.
00:34:56
I'm not that stupid.
00:34:57
So I just caught that by isolated slide.
00:35:01
Is it good? Almost.
00:35:03
Sounds like a smart Alec.
00:35:04
Here.
00:35:05
I was let us live. But I knew, like I knew years.
00:35:07
So I picked up the idea.
00:35:10
Um, yes, another big game that I'm watching.
00:35:12
Um, I say Super Bowl preview his chiefs at Buccaneers Is the Super Bowl preview waiting? This game is gonna be What do you want This game? This game.
00:35:23
Probably going to be a route.
00:35:24
Um e I think the Chiefs they're going to beat the crap out of the Buccaneers.
00:35:30
Um, Tom Brady has looked horrible.
00:35:33
Um, Chief's defense is actually intriguing.
00:35:38
They're not good, but there intriguing.
00:35:40
And they show up at times better than the past couple of years.
00:35:42
I'll give him that better, and we've I've talked about Brady.
00:35:46
You hit him and your They're done their running game is good enough to beat the Chiefs.
00:35:52
Chiefs Chiefs Defense Line is actually decent and the Chiefs are king at and My Holmes's king at short, dink and dunk passes and hit me with the long bomb.
00:36:03
That is how you beat Tampa Bay.
00:36:06
Um, I think this is gonna be another game where Tampa Bay gets beat down.
00:36:10
We ask questions about Tom Brady and as he's walking off the field, um, without shaking hands, hands with another quarterback again as he loses because he's sore.
00:36:22
Loser requestion.
00:36:23
If this team is really honestly, I'm gonna make it past the first or second round of the playoffs.
00:36:30
Yeah, I mean, like, this is my Super Bowl pick that I've been talking about a year.
00:36:34
I think the Chiefs know that we will motivate to kind of show up.
00:36:38
I'm kind of curb stomp on if they can.
00:36:40
Um, Mohammad wants Will Envy.
00:36:42
Probably MVP this year.
00:36:43
So he probably wants to continue that show to going.
00:36:47
Yeah, but I think has Mahomes being Brady off these effort being braid his career like I'm pretty sure Brady's being every time they remember, he did beat him, opening week.
00:36:58
Um, I remember that was gosh 2018 or 2019 when Kareem Hunt was very unknown.
00:37:06
And he just went off on at Foxboro Andan that season.
00:37:12
I think they lost to them in the playoffs, Um, in the NFC championship game.
00:37:17
So I think I was gonna remember because I knew, like, yeah, I mean, Brady to the upper hand on him, like I know, like in a C championship game.
00:37:24
I mean, that was, like, controversial call, whatever.
00:37:27
But like, yeah, like still into being my homes, Probably things a little bit.
00:37:31
I mean, the well, I feel that they're gonna win to all that year.
00:37:33
So And they probably could have got anyone being the Rams.
00:37:36
I think so, Yeah.
00:37:38
I mean, screw screw Tom Brady would have been that Monday Night football game.
00:37:43
Rams Chiefs was incredible.
00:37:45
Best game ever watched in my life.
00:37:47
We could have had that for a Super Bowl Part two, and Tom Brady had to ruin it.
00:37:51
That's why you ain't the goat.
00:37:53
He ruins everything and, like Moses mentioned like he wants to be like the best quarterback all time.
00:37:59
I mean, obviously, like Tom Brady like staying the way, it's all the actual stuff that Mahomes wants.
00:38:04
So, like, probably the internal drive for him to kind of, like, go out and, like, show out against Tom Brady himself and get the wind have really good stats.
00:38:12
So it's always even nice internal like motive, for sure, but yeah, I mean, I think it could still get a good game to watch, I think w keeping an eye on it.
00:38:23
So I think this could be Super Bowl.
00:38:25
Potentially could mean the Bucks are still pretty good.
00:38:28
I know you've been kind of hard on Brady all year and hard in the Bucks, but I said there's definitely still a pretty good team and definitely in the conversation and I'll see you, if I may.
00:38:39
Can I bring up to other games real quick after going, um, Chargers, Bills, Chargers or three and seven Bills or 73? But obviously charges have lost a lot of close games.
00:38:51
Looks like Austin Heckler will be back.
00:38:55
Hey was designated return from IR.
00:38:57
That is huge.
00:38:59
Um, this could be very interesting game and then Titans Colts both teams.
00:39:03
They're seven and three, obviously.
00:39:05
Colts one, just two weeks ago.
00:39:07
Um, this could really solidify the division for them.
00:39:12
Would give them a game.
00:39:13
And the tiebreaker over Tennessee with the next closest being Houston Texans at four and seven.
00:39:19
So those air also two games toe keep an eye on.
00:39:22
Maybe not watch, but keep an eye on. Yeah.
00:39:25
Who would you pick an ABC stuff on between Colton.
00:39:27
Titans? Yeah.
00:39:29
Um, it all depends on the colds defense.
00:39:34
The colds defense looks elite, Um, looks elite again.
00:39:38
They're gonna win.
00:39:39
I think they take the F C South, But the Packers, the Packers made them look pretty bad in the first half in that fourth quarter.
00:39:47
Obviously, they got the win.
00:39:49
I'm not hating on the Colts, but, um, they definitely showed them flaws.
00:39:53
And any team would want to give up 28 in the first half, so I'm gonna lean Titans.
00:39:58
It's tough to be the team twice, but, man, if this defense gets rolling, good luck.
00:40:06
Yeah.
00:40:07
I mean, like, the times of, like, look pretty good all year.
00:40:09
This in general, like, obviously was actually championship game last year.
00:40:13
And derek kind of just absolute monster, but I mean, like, I made the mistake of I thought the culture they won the division last year and, like, obviously Italian end up winning it.
00:40:22
So I mean the same time like I'll probably e don't even make the mystic again.
00:40:28
So I'll probably all the times this time because, I mean, I have faith in a coach last year and they let me down.
00:40:33
So I had to go the Times this year to kind of make sure like I get a decent pick this year, I should get it right for once.
00:40:41
So I mean, give yourself credit.
00:40:43
Nobody knew luck was going to retire.
00:40:46
Like after what? Like the third preseason game.
00:40:48
So I heard.
00:40:54
So, yeah, um, then you brought the Chargers game.
00:40:58
I mean, like, obviously like, I'm probably picking the bill, Probably.
00:41:03
But I mean, like like, I know you're a big charge here because your hair is just Herbert.
00:41:06
I told you he was good.
00:41:08
You're like, No, you're not good.
00:41:10
I said, bro, you good? Your hey, I'm actually the opposite.
00:41:14
I actually really liked Charger's.
00:41:16
I love Austin Tackler.
00:41:17
He's my favorite running back in NFL.
00:41:19
Don't your Herbert haters.
00:41:22
I'm not a charges hater, though.
00:41:24
I love Keenan Allen.
00:41:25
Uh, you know, I grew up loving lt loving Antonio Gates, loving those guys.
00:41:31
So I'm not a huge fan of their quarterbacks all the time, But I'm a Chargers fan.
00:41:36
I'm a Chargers fan.
00:41:37
Lett's pump the brakes a little bit there.
00:41:38
Yeah, hating on Herbert.
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You hated until the rivers.
00:41:42
He said, like it was the hall of Fame on that, bro, would you talk about? I corrected myself.
00:41:48
I looked up the stats.
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I you know, I admit it.
00:41:51
Yes.
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You should be in the Hall of Fame.
00:41:53
Okay, so bite down a little bit. Pipe down.
00:41:56
I know I was giving you a little crap.
00:41:59
I saw home.
00:42:03
That's all I have for topics today.
00:42:05
I just killed just mainly a big, like, a week.
00:42:07
Really? Yeah, I know that you wanted to talk about Yes.
00:42:13
Where is the MBA? Um, it will be very interesting.
00:42:19
They did release, um, a 134 page guide.
00:42:25
Takeover protocols.
00:42:27
Um, we know Adam Silver is very, very good at his job.
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Is the best out of any commissioner? Uh, 134 pages long.
00:42:42
Um, and it's similar to the one from the bubble.
00:42:45
And remember, we will not have the bubbles like over 100 pages to.
00:42:48
I'm pretty sure it was like a really long and he's not going to screw around.
00:42:52
They already lost a ton of money.
00:42:54
They're going to lose a ton more money without fans.
00:42:57
He's not going to screw around.
00:42:58
I don't think he's going.
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It's not 82 games in 72 games, too, and a lot of back to back smaller teams.
00:43:05
So more close contact, Uh, he's not going to screw out.
00:43:09
I don't know what you think, but I think this is gonna be a season where, um, we could see a lot of crackdowns.
00:43:15
And by that I mean, there gonna be some players that I think could get either suspended or find a hefty amount of money because, um, he also has.
00:43:24
He's has the players in mind.
00:43:28
He also has have owners in mind, and he definitely does.
00:43:30
I think this is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.
00:43:37
Yeah, the chance of like, you know, the protocols. Exactly.
00:43:40
Where is this? Simply just how the bubble was kind of just coming there just like, pretty much basically wearing mask and like, spreading on the bench and whatnot.
00:43:48
Or do you know just someone with bubble head or anything like that stuck out? Yeah, basically, um, one of the big things that is it has a rule system for what will happen on somebody. Test positive.
00:44:01
There's a time based on a test based return.
00:44:04
Um, and it also says that any player was determined to have a new positive, whether they have symptoms or not, they cannot do anything for at least 10 days.
00:44:16
Um, and after that 10 days, they have to spend two days with themselves working out.
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They must participate in a cardiac screening.
00:44:26
Um, and then any player who test positive again will optimist a minimum of 12 more games.
00:44:34
Um, which I like.
00:44:36
Like we said, it's going to be very Yeah, not so much what? The Big 10 strategy with their protocol.
00:44:43
And it's going to be very interesting because, um, you know, if we get down to the end of the season and there some guys, um, you know, covert protocols that are very important players.
00:44:56
I'm not gonna point any names that teams because, I don't know, but I think they're gonna be some corners that are gonna be cut.
00:45:02
I think teams and players are going to try to get cute.
00:45:04
I think it's gonna be very interesting to see how this all plays out, because him sending this out now tells you he's not messing around.
00:45:11
Yeah, I think it's interesting because like, there's been a lot of really good vaccine news they're talking about, maybe potentially start rolling them out into December.
00:45:18
January somewhat, I'm wondering.
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I feel like they probably give birth priority, get, try to get MBA players and, like, feels kind of athletes like first round of the vaccine.
00:45:27
So I wonder about how that be incorporated with what kind of relaxed a little bit.
00:45:33
After that, it will be required.
00:45:34
All players will have to get it, or I wonder how that would work well, and it will be very interesting. Thio.
00:45:41
I know, you know, kind of going a little off topic, but really on topic.
00:45:45
The books have said that for the foreseeable future they won't have any fans.
00:45:50
Um, I would assume a lot of teams to do the same thing, but, um this vaccine is starting to get rolled out.
00:45:56
Ah, lot of places have their own vaccines to, um I'm feeling a little more positive.
00:46:02
I don't know about you, but, um, once you start rolling out, it's gonna be all hands on deck.
00:46:08
Maybe we get fans back a little sooner and we thought, Just, you know, about a month ago in some of our podcasts.
00:46:14
I mean, I think it's possible, but like just hearing the expert, they're saying like, probably released a general public by April, Probably more than likely.
00:46:22
So, like, maybe by like, the playoffs, you probably get, like some fans in there and stuff.
00:46:28
I think most season probably be no fans, but I would assume the players probably get vaccinated, like I'm sure they'll get some way to prioritize them to get one for one.
00:46:36
Sure they have them.
00:46:38
Resource is, I'm sure they'll be like priority.
00:46:41
So maybe after a while, like they'll get kind of real life.
00:46:44
There's some of the protocol would not so kind of seized how that world plays out.
00:46:48
Yeah, and even if they don't get priority, I'm sure the MBA will be fine with pain out the ass, um, to private companies to get him.
00:46:58
Um, and if they don't get that to your system, they're gonna get them.
00:47:03
They'll just pay for them, and they'll pay a lot for him.
00:47:05
But, um hey, everybody can get vaccinated, you know, vaccines.
00:47:11
Um, you know, I'm just gonna go out and see if they work.
00:47:16
Um, it mutes the virus.
00:47:18
So and at least other vaccines.
00:47:21
So, hey, if it happens in players may be the moment of time to sit out.
00:47:25
Could be five days that attend.
00:47:27
We'll see.
00:47:28
Yeah, we seem to have place off.
00:47:32
Um, so that's all I ask is what do you think? That's the right call him releasing it now, or oh, yeah, for sure.
00:47:39
I mean, like Martin. Yeah.
00:47:41
Training camp starts Tuesday, so Yeah, I would say so.
00:47:46
So, yeah. I mean, yeah, I start training camp on Tuesday.
00:47:49
So and then pre season starts on December 9th.
00:47:52
That's not this Wednesday, but next Wednesday, so, yeah, you got to get on top of it for sure.
00:48:00
Mhm.
00:48:03
Well, that's all I had for in this episode of 17.
00:48:06
Reasonable doubt.
00:48:07
Yeah.
00:48:08
I feel free to tweet in us if you wanna ask? Any questions will answer them on the show.
00:48:12
Trevor, the Charlie in two MSC underscore more six.
00:48:16
And how your name I'll go on Go Packers.
00:48:21
Wow.
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Reasonable Doubt Episode 17: NFL Week 12, NCAAF, & More!

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Chris Moore @seemore6

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in real life.
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Um, what kind of about seven episodes? 17 years. Do adult.
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I got the number right this time.
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It's all good this time.
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So I know you've been there.
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Um, yes.
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So I'm back at it.
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I'm Chris. Trevor.
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Feel free to Communist of the chat.
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You have.
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Anything would ask us while we're talking or tweet at me.
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See, underscore more six insurers.
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That's Berlin to, um Yeah, and if you wanna get going But before we get going or did you wanna talk about Trevor? Um, Sarah Fuller, right? Yeah, that's her.
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Now kicked off for Vanderbilt.
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First woman ever to play for.
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Ah, um, Big Five Conference football team.
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Ah, I just I wanted to say first of all, congratulations.
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I mean, it's, you know, a little sad.
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That's 2020.
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And, you know, it was the first time because soccer players can boot the hell out of the ball.
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I'm surprised sometimes I haven't done this little earlier, but good thing to her.
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And, uh, it was a good squib kick for those who couldn't tell, it was very obviously a squib kick.
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It was not just a really bad kick.
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I want to get out of the way.
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Um, and also I mean, screw you, Vanderbilt.
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I mean, you guys can't even get into field goal range like I want to see her just like mash of 40.
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Yarder. At least attempt on.
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You got blanked by Missouri like that's that's set like you guys.
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Come on, let's let's be better on that.
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Let's be better.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm pretty sure they wanted to set it up where you get the field goal, but they just It was a rough game for them.
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Yeah, do you think started a new trend thing to see, like more like women, be kickers in football in general? I would hope so, because, like I said, football players can put the hell out of the ball, especially goalies like they take a soccer ball and they halfway down the field like just sitting there.
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Um, so accuracy, obviously, like that's you know, that's something that's different.
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But I mean, it's not like they just send it down the field willy nilly either.
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So I think I don't know if you'll start a trend, but I think it will definitely be something we're like.
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It's going to be a little more common.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I sure hope so.
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That really good sign.
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Just forgetting the out there because there is no moments before or anything.
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So I think that really quoted kinda have that, but yeah, but I think for kickoff is gonna be a little bit harder, because, I mean, you got a tackle on, then it would be hard to kind of like tackle against men in the open field of running a B.
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Those two returners.
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I would be really hard, I think like field goals were like a school kid like today.
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Like that would work just fine.
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So I think it could be sort of like a new trend.
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And I think it be cool to came to see, like, women go to get the opportunity to coach more.
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To be kind of cool.
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Maybe this kind of opened up that door.
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They could be kind of coaching field goal kickers and stuff, you know? So it kind of opened up that door, too.
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So you could say I'm getting more diversity in that sense.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Um, yeah.
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So stick into college football.
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I mean, yeah, I was a heartbreaker for me.
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I mean, I mentioned the episodes of Gun Big Oregon Ducks fan.
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I mean, he acts like I've always liked ever since I was in middle school, because they do the horns and all the gear in the field and everything.
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And yeah, heartbreaking lasted rival Oregon State.
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Yeah, so I mean, obviously only three point laws.
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But I still apart her through chances.
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Ah, lot for making the playoffs.
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Uh huh.
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Would it takes over Trevor for them this year? Probably.
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And I'm also from Why would you think they lost this game? Yeah, it's It's over.
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Um, there's no way that they have a chance.
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Alabama looked **** good today.
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Um, they beat the brakes off of auburn.
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Um, looking up the score without next David to He didn't coach today? Yeah. 13.
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That's no joke.
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Um, Ohio State didn't play, but they'll hold.
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You know, Florida looked good.
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Clemson's looking good so far against Pittsburgh. Notre Dame's winning.
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Um, you know now they have a loss there on the same, you know, level is, you know, Clemson, Texas A and M, Florida, Miami, Indiana, Wisconsin, even, um, and Wisconsin Obviously not gonna make it, But the point is like they have the same amount of losses, this team and they already have, you know, shorten season.
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We talked about this.
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They have to go undefeated and they need luck.
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And they lost.
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And they look bad to, you know, on that final sequence there, a couple of bad calls on their favor still couldn't stop him.
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Um, it's over for them, but they are going to be a very sneaky team in the bowl season, for sure, because they will not have played that many games.
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They shouldn't be too banged up.
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And, you know, there's still a very good team.
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Yeah, I mean, like, I was just on the very first game, like they're down by 14 the first quarter.
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I mean, they've been shaking all year long.
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It's like, Oh, it's probably not that you could make the playoffs.
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Essentially, they basically a top 14 for that.
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I wish this was the year that they expand the playoffs.
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They will be really fitting for this kind.
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Expand, maybe have had something.
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They're more of a chance.
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But that 14? Yeah, that they would have to like, pretty much run the table on, like have very convincing wins and even from the get go out and see that, I mean, obviously it's a route from, but yeah, I mean, Oregon fan, but I don't see it happening either.
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It's like, unfortunately, so they're really ***ual my team.
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Now my question is like, How does it both ceiling work is like a normal bowl season this year.
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Is it like shorten? Or how is it like I don't know how it's working to see.
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I think it's about normal.
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Um, but I I really like I really wish I agree with you.
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I really wish there is an 18 playoff.
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Uh, should be one permanently, in my opinion, should always be a need to play off.
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Yeah, I think you know.
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Four.
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Yeah, and there's always, you know, there's always a tough thing about five.
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I don't think any of the playoff spot should be guaranteed, Like I don't think the Big 12 should always have a spot stuff like that.
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Um, but I mean, like, I'm looking at these teams.
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Florida has one Moss, and there's six.
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The food is good.
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Texas.
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Yeah, Cincinnati.
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They haven't really played anybody but Ritter.
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Their quarterback is very good.
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People don't talk about him a lot.
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You know, You got some good teams up there, Obviously Northwestern.
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Um, well, I mean, this game is pretty much over five seconds up.
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They have it on their own nine yard line down three to Michigan State, who is one and three.
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So their chances air basically shot.
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But, um, you know, it's it should be an 18 playoff.
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Um, but I mean, for some reason, they just love pushing back on it.
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I don't know, but this year should be a regular bull schedule.
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I know if I like that, but that's the move they decided to make.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like, I never really been a bowl games that they need to kind of pointless in Lane, like I really watch any bowls, have the ages.
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I don't see the point of them, really.
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I really just have a bigger playoff format. That's just my opinion.
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E.
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I mean, like, it's better than the two teams play out.
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They have the longest time because we just two teams just for the championship.
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That was really best Lisa's kind of playoffs.
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But yeah, I mean, like this especially because I like the postponements of canceled games and shortened season, will be nice of 18 plant police.
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Try it.
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But e think should be a permanent thing.
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For sure.
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Thing is to, you know, you talk about the bowl games and I agree to a point.
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Um, like, you know, the Birmingham ble and the, you know, Liberty Bowl and the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl like those air Pretty stupid.
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But like, you know, I feel like they should really shorten it down and I get it's all about money for them.
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But, uh, let's kind of down to, you know, the Cotton Bowls, the beach balls, the Rose Bowl's Let's cut.
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You know, Capital one bowls, like anything that actually like means something.
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Yeah, but like those bowl games like you could make them into playoff games, That's like, Well, that's how I view it to You could make them into playoff games.
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So true.
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You know, it's just, you know, something for me.
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It just I kind of feel a little bit like, um, it serves kind of like a purpose of, like the n i t.
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In college basketball.
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They're really good teams to win the N I T.
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And then next year come back and be very good or get good recruiting classes.
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I think that's kind of the same if they shorten them down, um, and still have some, even without the playoffs.
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But, I mean, I think we can both agree, even if we disagree on that, that some of these Bulls are just ridiculous like, yeah, 17.
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It likes exactly.
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Yeah, it goes too far.
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But yeah, we'll say, Like I think it does help recruiting those because, like when you're creating players, that heavy will be one like Rose Bowl last year.
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So the kind of doesn't putting in that sense to even in basketball, he said, You want the N I t.
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That That's like a good sign, your head cat in the right direction.
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So, yes, it doesn't hurt.
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In that sense, I'll give you that.
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But yeah, then another big game from yesterday.
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Um, it was a Notre Dame North Carolina.
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Why don't you watch this game? It was a really good game to watch throughout.
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The Notre Dame roared in the second half and pulling out that game.
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Um, yes.
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How did this game make you feel like? Does that give you more? More faith and confidence in Notre Dame? Does it like the same thing I've been saying all year? That there are fixing? It's the same thing, Uh, this North Carolina team? I don't think Is that good? Um, e I know you like somehow I don't think he's that good.
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I'm gonna be honest with that.
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I really don't think he's that good of a quarterback.
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Um, you know, 24 touchdown, six picks, 2800 yards, that's all well and fine.
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That's good.
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It is Completion percentages.
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Album credit.
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It's decent, you know, 67%.
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Well, that Z album credit you go.
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But, you know, I look at this team and they be Syracuse.
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Syracuse is garbage.
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Charlotte was canceled.
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Boston College.
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They beat by four, uh, a suspect.
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I'll give you that.
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This is pretty suspect.
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I mean, they beat a very overrated Virginia Tech team by 11.
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They lose to Florida State, maybe a no overrated team in NC State.
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They've been badly.
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And then they come right back and they lose to Virginia.
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And then they beat Duke as they should.
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They give up 53 to Wake Forest, then they'd come back.
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I mean, I This team just doesn't impress me.
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I mean, you know, the one most impressive game is that went at home against 23 NC State, 48 21.
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But then you come back and lose 44 to 41 at home.
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And the inconsistency just doesn't make sense.
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Like you'll give up 22 points one week and then 45 the next.
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So their defense can obviously play well.
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But they just don't.
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And 31 points against Notre Dame is not bad giving up that many, but scoring only 17.
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It's like, Boy, I'm just nothing impresses me about this team.
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Yeah, I mean, like, So I walked on the A.
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C C.
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Football community.
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I was like a city football and like North Carolina, looking for a lot of basketball.
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So, like, I still follow the ball team and get me like I like saying how like like he's pretty good stats, like he seems Avery like, composed player.
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But yeah, I say the defense has been very consistent this year, like that's something that's been the biggest like weak point.
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Like even that logical Florida State like that was all defense because, like, demons played horrible again, just giving up passes, left and right.
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The photo state team.
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So, I mean, I like somehow at the same time, like it is the same team, the same school Mr Risky came from.
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Look up.
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He turned on the NFL.
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So e mean a whole same house, isn't that? But, I mean, I remember watching too risky.
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I was not a fan of him.
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And how lucky were hyping him up? I I didn't see it, but I think I somehow was a better player with Mr Risky with North Carolina.
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But it is similar height, which that's scary to me, though.
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Yeah, I would completely agree.
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I didn't see any hype at all for true Boesky.
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I watched that ball game against Stanford.
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I brought it up before.
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He was horrible.
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He couldn't make Yeah, but people still have to month. I mean, he was drafted.
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What, second overall? People like I didn't see it, though.
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Yeah, and, you know, and I look at this Notre Dame team and you know that you could say, Oh, they played a great team or they, you know, I'm not sold in North Carolina and I looked at this Notre Dame team and maybe Duke by 14, which is not that good.
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They beat Florida State by 16, which it's two possessions, but that's not that great.
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Global 12 to 7.
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I mean, come on.
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They needed overtime for Clemson without Trevor Lawrence, Boston College 14, um, and North Carolina by 14.
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Like like they're getting winds, They're getting results.
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But if you're the yeah, but like if you're the number two team in the nation like act like it like I I guess for me, I'm just putting them up against in Alabama, who is curb stopping everybody.
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Their closest game was first came to this season or no third game this season, when they put up 63 on Ole Miss won, 63 48.
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I mean, that's the number one team like they gave up 48.
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But outside of that game, their defense has been good.
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And so I just look at what Notre Dame's down.
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It doesn't match up for number two for me.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like, I know you're a big guardian here, but yeah, I was stationed in generally I think a C c better than sec.
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Like in that sense, because, like, sec like I mean, like in Alabama's division has been a lot of really good team.
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This is the best team in Auburn and, like obviously their 22nd the nation and five and three.
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So they weren't like amazing.
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But obviously, Alabama curbs on dumb.
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So you got a question, their level of talent to I'm like the game again.
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Some old miss like, um not Ole Miss Mississippi State or whatever.
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Um, Katie Castella dominated stuff.
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Now it has been a very pedestrian.
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So, like the same time, like how good is their competition? They had a question like, There's I would still say the SEC is better.
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Obviously, Alabama's the number one team in the country.
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I don't think that's really arguable.
00:14:25
After this week, UM, Texas A and M their one loss to Alabama, which hard to blame them for that? Georgia has lost 21 to Alabama, one to Florida.
00:14:37
Who's directly above them? Um, that's another division that I'm talking about. The Alabama.
00:14:42
The SEC was used, you know, you know, and I look at Florida and they've only lost the Texas A and M by three.
00:14:49
Um so Alabama cells, Texas A and M with, um um, you know these teams, they're beating each other up.
00:14:55
I'd still say the SEC is better because I these teams are proving it Weekend week out.
00:15:01
HTC is not bad, especially Clemson's looking good.
00:15:05
But, you know, I think I need to see Notre Dame won a title before I can buy into them ever again.
00:15:10
To be honest, Yeah.
00:15:13
One thing I hope to is like, I hope No, that actually moves a c permanently.
00:15:16
Summer a c football.
00:15:17
They're always been independent doing their own thing.
00:15:19
They want their own TV deal.
00:15:20
But this year they wanted to go the A C C because they had no comfort to play and commerce only.
00:15:25
So I hopefully that they can kind of merge into, like, on a C C. Permanently.
00:15:29
I think that we really get 50 sec football.
00:15:31
Kind of like bringing more hype and stuff.
00:15:34
Yeah, for sure.
00:15:35
And I mean, you look at the a C c outside of them.
00:15:38
Um, it's I'm sorry, but it's pathetic.
00:15:42
Um, you know, it's take out in order dame the next best team is Miami.
00:15:47
Who, um I'm sorry.
00:15:50
They're not right.
00:15:52
Yeah, They got Curb stomped by Clemson.
00:15:55
They beat Virginia Tech by one NC state by three.
00:15:58
Virginia by five.
00:16:00
Pittsburgh 12.
00:16:01
Like they're not beating anybody.
00:16:04
Buy anything impressive.
00:16:06
And then behind that is North Carolina and then a whole bunch of garbage.
00:16:09
So, um, I pump the brakes on a c c being better in as, see a little bit.
00:16:16
But, you know, it's your point about Notre Dame.
00:16:18
If Notre Dame gets in there, that's a whole new ballgame.
00:16:21
For sure.
00:16:23
Yeah, it's definitely something we gotta keep on eye on for eso.
00:16:29
Yeah, so, yeah, it's the Northwestern lost Michigan State.
00:16:33
You are Northwestern's chances probably done or giving the victim west in general like there's no chance for like them really make any noise. Yeah.
00:16:40
Big 10 shot.
00:16:41
Um, at least the west, um, Northwestern has a lost their went over Wisconsin.
00:16:47
Wasn't impressive.
00:16:48
Um, I a was Iowa has two losses.
00:16:51
Wisconsin as one loss, but, um, even if they went out, the only other win would be against Indiana.
00:16:59
How many games they play, like four games, like three games.
00:17:01
And it seems like they play like no games Well, and, you know, they play like no games.
00:17:07
I mean, they weren't even in the consideration before we talked about this, but, you know, and then I looked out at Indiana.
00:17:14
Um, I know Michael Penick's got hurt, but I said he was extremely overrated, and he got hurt halfway through the game.
00:17:22
But still, he was six for 19 with 84 yards like, yeah, that's not good.
00:17:28
That's not good.
00:17:29
So even if Wisconsin were to beat Indiana with a fully healthy panics, it means literally, nothing.
00:17:38
S o.
00:17:39
You know Northwestern is gonna make because they never get respect anyways.
00:17:42
So at all those things together, if they don't have a shot, nobody in the Big 10 West.
00:17:48
Mhm.
00:17:49
That's a good point.
00:17:50
Yeah.
00:17:51
I mean, like, we're both Big 10 guys.
00:17:52
They love the big time for the Big 10 West, because, I mean, I'm Minnesota, your Wisconsin, but yeah, it's not a good Big 10 year.
00:17:59
Besides Ohio State, they've looked suspect to, at times with their defense.
00:18:03
Like I called it up before the seasons.
00:18:04
I hate the deep.
00:18:05
It's gonna be suspect, and it's a little bit of question marks, so we'll see how the rest of that shapes out for sure.
00:18:13
Switching gears a little bit.
00:18:14
Thio Professional football? Um, there hasn't been breaking is within the last hour the Denver Broncos.
00:18:21
We're gonna have no quarterbacks.
00:18:23
Absolutely none. They're all out.
00:18:26
What's your reaction about that? Um, well, I mean, they're not going to forfeit.
00:18:34
Yeah, they're not corporate.
00:18:35
And they said no quarterback.
00:18:37
So it's admirable, I guess.
00:18:40
But, um, they're playing the Saints.
00:18:44
I don't care whose quarterback for the Saints.
00:18:47
This was going to be a shellacking anyways, and now they have Royce Freeman.
00:18:52
They're running back, is the emergency quarterback.
00:18:55
I'm sure he will be a serviceable emergency quarterback, but he's just that, uh, this is it.
00:19:02
Saints might win by 30 plus points.
00:19:06
Um, boy, this is this is going to get really ugly.
00:19:11
I really don't know what the Broncos air playing for, I guess if they wanna tank ah, loss helps that.
00:19:19
But a boy, it's tough.
00:19:23
It's really tough.
00:19:25
I know.
00:19:26
Like I've never heard situation like that is just crazy.
00:19:28
You have no quarterbacks on, like eligible.
00:19:30
They got skinny insane.
00:19:31
They are very curious to see how it plays out, Like my tune in for a little bit to see, Like what? How actually Looks like I'm just curious to see how it looks.
00:19:38
E was tasting Hill starting tomorrow against I'm starting again, right? Like we might as well shoot like this game.
00:19:45
Like, I think this should be the game.
00:19:48
You throwing Jamis, Winston, You got nothing to lose.
00:19:52
Yeah, Yeah.
00:19:54
I mean, just a shame, because there's a very 2020 things like doing this could happen like other teams, potentially as it goes down, because in the NFL, the train down still the all facilities, every team is Monday and Tuesday.
00:20:07
It's like, Is that a good time? Like things to come? You think it already has Ravens and Steelers? The Ravens got pushed back and I was Steelers and Steelers fans.
00:20:19
I was ****ed.
00:20:20
I thought it was a joke.
00:20:22
Um, I think the Steelers should have gotten a forfeit.
00:20:26
But the Steelers are getting some positives now, too.
00:20:31
And those positives don't come out of thin air.
00:20:33
So if they would have played Thursday, um, some of these positives came Friday and some Saturday during a button I can't believe I'm saying this.
00:20:42
I think Benefit actually did the right thing because this would have been cataclysmic of those teams played with those players.
00:20:49
It's happening.
00:20:51
I think the NFL has to cancel the Tuesday night game.
00:20:55
Um, because, you know, they pushed back both these teams games next week, too.
00:21:01
But even then, like if some of these guys get it from the other team, much less their own players, Monday night's game is in jeopardy, too.
00:21:09
Like you've got to cut your losses here.
00:21:11
So it's happening again.
00:21:13
I think it's gonna happen in streets like it has.
00:21:15
You know, Tennessee early in the season.
00:21:18
I think you cancel it.
00:21:20
It'll kind of be or run a low for a little bit, hopefully to lend a season.
00:21:24
But you know, if they play it, it's going to keep happening.
00:21:28
It's gonna keep your saying canceled Tuesday's game.
00:21:30
Anything getting on a cancel this trade off.
00:21:33
I think they need to and I think they will and that hurts me because I need a win from somebody else in fantasy football and they have, like three Steelers on their team, Um, so it's gonna kick me in the butt.
00:21:47
But, I mean, I think you have to cancel it.
00:21:49
I mean, it is so bad.
00:21:51
And within three days, what we're going to see on the field is gonna be garbage.
00:21:57
And on top of that, um, it's just not safe.
00:22:01
Yeah.
00:22:02
I mean, like, at this point, like, I'm pretty sure both teams were, like, quarantining and like, each player instead of doing the right thing.
00:22:08
So it's, like, not further spread the disease.
00:22:10
So I think it probably be okay for Tuesday.
00:22:12
Let's just see how the test come back on tomorrow, on Monday to kind of reassure to kind of see Okay, how things look.
00:22:20
But yeah.
00:22:21
I mean, like, I think Tuesday probably possibly could, but, like, straight up canceling it like that gets a lot, a lot of money.
00:22:27
So, like, and I felt owners, they do not like giving up money.
00:22:30
So, like, there'll be a huge, huge loss to get somehow it just cancel that game.
00:22:35
So yeah, and I see that I think, you know, just for me, the Ravens, obviously reports are coming out about they're not following all the protocols.
00:22:46
Um, and now the Steelers had a lot of guys come positive, which they haven't played a game in a while.
00:22:53
So either, you know, either they broke some rules to or, you know, something happened because it has blown up in the Steelers locker room.
00:23:03
Yeah, I would say, probably just like the quiet defying protocol, because they haven't played for a while being laxed.
00:23:09
And I mean, at this point, I mean, I don't like I could speak for you, but, like, sometimes I get tired of, they're just hearing my Kobe kind of just I'm just tired of us doing all this stuff.
00:23:18
You kind of get a little lax sometimes.
00:23:20
So, I mean, I could see them doing that to essentially Yeah, a To this point, I think you just gotta cut that game out, push it toe, you know, Eight seed player 18, playoff.
00:23:31
Um, I think fans would love it.
00:23:32
And, you know, it's a big game to both teams were like in the playoff funds.
00:23:37
You remember that, too? Look, it's not just, like, serious against, like the Jets or something like the game actually means.
00:23:44
So it's important to at the same time for me, you know, I look at the Steelers.
00:23:48
Um, they have not clinched yet, but they're 10.
00:23:52
And no, I mean, really, they need to win one or two more games to clinch.
00:23:57
And if you can't do that, you shouldn't be in the playoffs.
00:24:00
Um, I think it's gonna hurt the Ravens more right now.
00:24:03
They're in eighth at six and four, um, behind the Raiders, on strength of victory, her conference games or whatever.
00:24:11
Um, it's gonna hurt the Ravens.
00:24:13
Maura. I don't think it really hurts the Steelers.
00:24:15
And guess what? When the Ravens Ravens really didn't follow rules, they said they'd strike down on it.
00:24:22
You know, they haven't in the past.
00:24:23
This is your chance to really strike down because that would hurt their playoff chances.
00:24:27
Um, I think they should, but we'll see what NFL decides on.
00:24:34
Yeah.
00:24:35
I mean, like, it be interesting.
00:24:36
We'll know for sure.
00:24:37
Probably maybe tomorrow night or Monday, for sure.
00:24:40
Kind of see how that plays out.
00:24:42
You can always push it back to a week eight to have ideas floating around that some game could be pushed it that week, so they might be doing that Teoh to kind of save the money.
00:24:50
So that's always an option to, uh, sticking to NFL.
00:24:56
Um, how about some things giving Get? Yeah.
00:24:59
So the Washington football team beat Beat the Cowboys bad? Um, yeah.
00:25:04
So they're leading the NFC East leader, not the Washington football team.
00:25:08
I mean, you talked about him early in the season, said, Hey, this team could win the division and it's currently sitting at number one.
00:25:15
Uh, they could hold on to the spot and eagles to get him.
00:25:19
Or what do you think? I think they can.
00:25:22
Oddly enough, you know, the Eagles are really falling apart.
00:25:27
Um, you know, And then I look their plan to Seahawks this week.
00:25:33
They're playing at Green Bay next week.
00:25:35
Do we know Green Bay doesn't have a great a defense, but they should win this game.
00:25:42
Then they play the Saints, and then they play at the Cardinals.
00:25:46
I don't think they'll win any of those four games at most of all in one, in which case they're going to be, what, 49 and one.
00:25:56
And then they play at Cowboys and then against Washington.
00:26:00
I think they might want to the rest of season and you know they're really the only threat toe Washington and I look at Washington.
00:26:11
The end the season.
00:26:12
They have Steelers.
00:26:14
That's gonna be tough.
00:26:15
But 40 Niners that could be winnable form.
00:26:18
Seahawks Probably lost with them.
00:26:20
Panthers at Eagles.
00:26:21
They could likely when three out of the last five year.
00:26:24
Um, so that and having, ah, full game on Dallas having the tiebreaker round Dallas.
00:26:31
Um, And with New York and Philly plan as they are, I think they will win this division.
00:26:37
Yeah, I just talk because, like the Washington football team, you were right there.
00:26:40
Demons to the real deal.
00:26:41
Like I like their defense.
00:26:42
Ah, lot especially like I really do.
00:26:45
But their offices So suspects like I don't know if I can trust the offense.
00:26:49
That's just a big, huge question, mark.
00:26:51
That's why I I'll probably and pick the equals.
00:26:54
I think I think it be really close, so you'll come down back to the last few games.
00:26:58
But our podcast like, enjoy the equal because they just have more talent.
00:27:01
I mean, yeah, like their talent is hurt, but, like, I mean, they have experience with, like, Peterson.
00:27:06
And once I know they have a very relationship right now.
00:27:08
They obviously have been a lot of like everything reports about that and like how they've been fighting behind the scenes.
00:27:14
But I would say I have to go the ego based on experience without alone mean that Locker knows, like how to sneak e mean they did it last year.
00:27:22
They snuck into the playoffs last year.
00:27:23
We thought it would be the Cowboys all year long.
00:27:25
They can't gain down to the last game this season.
00:27:27
The ego snuck it in there, so I think they could find a way to stumble into the playoffs.
00:27:32
I mean, it won't be pretty, but probably like 44 55 wins is probably to get in the playoffs.
00:27:39
Should be sad, but I could see them like getting five or six.
00:27:42
Getting in.
00:27:43
Yeah, and I look at the Giants schedule.
00:27:45
They play the Seahawks, Cardinals, Browns, Ravens.
00:27:48
Um, they're probably gonna lose those four games at most.
00:27:51
They'll probably went to.
00:27:52
And, you know, you talked about the Eagles sneaking in with five wins.
00:27:56
You know, I just look at this Washington schedule.
00:27:59
Um, you know, like I said, just the offensive question exam.
00:28:04
Question the offense first, but I think you know, you know, division like this. That's so bad.
00:28:10
Terry McLaurin Check downs to Gibson and this defense.
00:28:16
I think you combine it all.
00:28:18
It's good enough to get them two more wins, which will take him to six.
00:28:24
I don't see in this division.
00:28:26
All I need is like six wins.
00:28:27
You probably got it.
00:28:28
If you get six point, which is that I can't believe we're saying six wins you're in the is just unbelievable.
00:28:34
And I will say, um, you know, obviously they blew up the Cowboys.
00:28:38
But through 11 games, Washington's four and seven their point differential is only minus two over the whole season.
00:28:46
So you know, I always point.
00:28:48
Differential minus 108.
00:28:50
Giants minus 41 equals minus 34.
00:28:53
Not saying this team is a great team, but maybe this team should be a little closer to 500.
00:28:58
Who knows? Yeah, we're very interested here to see how that plays out.
00:29:03
I mean, obviously will be pretty like whoever like ends up coming out of there.
00:29:06
But I mean, like, some of their so bad, it's interesting, You know what I mean.
00:29:11
like how it is.
00:29:13
It's so crazy.
00:29:16
6. 20 and get in the playoffs.
00:29:18
It's gonna be interesting with the draft two.
00:29:20
I mean, you're gonna have a team at six and 10.
00:29:22
We usually get, like, a top 15 pick.
00:29:24
And now their playoff team pick like, Oh, boy.
00:29:28
Yeah, that's tough, but I'm trying to rebuild.
00:29:31
Or anything to add on that.
00:29:33
Be tough.
00:29:34
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:29:35
I didn't think about that, Um, sticking to just previous ing some games tomorrow.
00:29:42
Um, So there's two big games that I kind of from highlighted.
00:29:47
Um, So you have the bears Packers? What do you think they checked out of this game? You're gonna pretty team was all year long.
00:29:56
Pretty much doing pretty goods.
00:29:57
Has the bus can kind of three spy surprise.
00:30:00
I would say about this game.
00:30:02
Um, I'm looking at the line right now, and it's Green Bay by 9.
00:30:05
5 points.
00:30:06
I think that's a joke.
00:30:08
Um, I don't think Green Bay is gonna win by 10 or more points.
00:30:12
I love the Packers, and I think the Packers very well should win by more than 10 points.
00:30:19
But you know, we've talked about.
00:30:21
This is a rivalry game.
00:30:23
Um, those always hit different.
00:30:25
They're very rarely blowouts.
00:30:27
This defense is legit for the Bears.
00:30:29
They might be the best in the league if not top five.
00:30:33
Uh, probably up there.
00:30:35
Yeah, but I mean, the point is still there.
00:30:39
And the pack? Yeah.
00:30:41
Yeah.
00:30:42
And the Packers did look good against the Colts defense, and they are going to play an easier offense and the Bears.
00:30:49
But man, patent, just he just can't get it together.
00:30:54
And he said they figured they'd be playing Travis Key and they'd game plan it.
00:30:59
I just don't trust him.
00:31:00
I think this is going to be It's either going to be something like 31 to 10 Packers, or it's going to be like a sloppy, you know, 24 toe.
00:31:11
You know, 13 game Packers.
00:31:13
I think they win, but I think it's just a game that nobody really enjoys watching.
00:31:19
Yeah, I mean, I think I'm pretty sure All Bears team all year long has been like that.
00:31:22
I mean, like, I watched the Bears game always very low scoring, just very ugly to watch because there's a great defense with terrible offense.
00:31:30
So I mean, all the games are pretty much like That's only surprised you end up being like that, but yeah, like it's a It's a Lambo.
00:31:38
Yeah, no crowd either.
00:31:40
So I mean, like, I think it makes a huge difference.
00:31:42
Especially because they're used to the cold.
00:31:43
Mean like, the practicing Chicago, the brackets, the lake.
00:31:46
Like that's just his windy and cold, too, but yeah, yeah, Mr Brisky, I'm just like I'm not a huge fan of him.
00:31:56
I mean, I know the polls, the past you would have like the best, but I think like a turnaround, Nicole should be probably healthy by then.
00:32:02
And I think he's really good at the end of season.
00:32:04
Kind of finishing finishing the season now I'm going to the playoffs is really good in past, like, both whole bunch of in Philadelphia that he was starting.
00:32:12
And he did that and he did a fantastic I want to Bone VP next year.
00:32:16
Upset the bears and the in the first division around order.
00:32:20
No, no wild card is the wild card, but, um yeah, so I think this game will probably get the edge of the Packers because I don't trust.
00:32:28
But Robiskie butting seconds around Chicago with both.
00:32:31
Probably, I probably think I'm just put it so And that's what about I will say, you know, when you know the Packers lost to the Vikings.
00:32:41
The Vikings were one and five.
00:32:45
Andi was a really good gift right game.
00:32:47
Like you said, it was like their Super Bowl Bears have lost four straight in their last seven.
00:32:52
So you know, this could be a game where obviously, I want the Packers to win.
00:32:56
But this could be exactly the same thing, especially in a game where if the Bears lose, uh, that's a three game difference.
00:33:05
They're not.
00:33:06
Make that up in six weeks against Aaron Rodgers.
00:33:09
It's just not gonna happen.
00:33:10
All mostly gets hurt.
00:33:11
He has a good point to, you know, the better.
00:33:13
Definitely more desperate for a win than the Packers right now.
00:33:16
Bears like they're in trouble for eggnog make playoff because I don't know if they meet a wild card.
00:33:20
So, like they really, really need this win with the Packers.
00:33:24
Have a lot more cushion.
00:33:25
So you have a good point to bring up to and hey, bears have a really good schedule. Moving forward.
00:33:31
Um, after packers, they got Lions, Texans, Vikings, Jaguars.
00:33:35
Um, they should win all of those moving into week 17 against Green Bay at home.
00:33:41
Um, I'm just saying, that could be another week 17 Classic.
00:33:45
But instead of the week Aaron Rodgers on Sunday night against the Bears four.
00:33:50
And oh, I think 16 touchdowns, no interceptions.
00:33:53
So we'll see what we're breaks.
00:33:56
Yeah, The interesting game, the bears way.
00:33:59
I'm definitely talking a lot of smack like episode.
00:34:01
You know, I am just kind of like I can't even hate, because, I mean, what can I say? That would be pretty sad if the Packers lose.
00:34:12
Yeah. I mean, like, it's been good years talking smack.
00:34:14
I don't really like to beat down with the but the bucks are Vikings beating them.
00:34:18
And like colts being them mvs bumble like it's been a good year talking smack as a anti Packer fan.
00:34:26
I mean, I like how it took.
00:34:29
You couldn't really talk that much smack against the Colts game because I literally told you exactly what was gonna happen.
00:34:34
E told you they're gonna look good and disappoint you.
00:34:39
Um, so Hopefully, a typical thing out of it happening if the bears one.
00:34:44
But I realized I just said I don't see the Packers winning by 10.
00:34:47
And I predicted they won by 11.
00:34:49
I just thought about that.
00:34:51
So all of in my scored, like, 24 like 16.
00:34:54
Something like that.
00:34:56
I'm not that stupid.
00:34:57
So I just caught that by isolated slide.
00:35:01
Is it good? Almost.
00:35:03
Sounds like a smart Alec.
00:35:04
Here.
00:35:05
I was let us live. But I knew, like I knew years.
00:35:07
So I picked up the idea.
00:35:10
Um, yes, another big game that I'm watching.
00:35:12
Um, I say Super Bowl preview his chiefs at Buccaneers Is the Super Bowl preview waiting? This game is gonna be What do you want This game? This game.
00:35:23
Probably going to be a route.
00:35:24
Um e I think the Chiefs they're going to beat the crap out of the Buccaneers.
00:35:30
Um, Tom Brady has looked horrible.
00:35:33
Um, Chief's defense is actually intriguing.
00:35:38
They're not good, but there intriguing.
00:35:40
And they show up at times better than the past couple of years.
00:35:42
I'll give him that better, and we've I've talked about Brady.
00:35:46
You hit him and your They're done their running game is good enough to beat the Chiefs.
00:35:52
Chiefs Chiefs Defense Line is actually decent and the Chiefs are king at and My Holmes's king at short, dink and dunk passes and hit me with the long bomb.
00:36:03
That is how you beat Tampa Bay.
00:36:06
Um, I think this is gonna be another game where Tampa Bay gets beat down.
00:36:10
We ask questions about Tom Brady and as he's walking off the field, um, without shaking hands, hands with another quarterback again as he loses because he's sore.
00:36:22
Loser requestion.
00:36:23
If this team is really honestly, I'm gonna make it past the first or second round of the playoffs.
00:36:30
Yeah, I mean, like, this is my Super Bowl pick that I've been talking about a year.
00:36:34
I think the Chiefs know that we will motivate to kind of show up.
00:36:38
I'm kind of curb stomp on if they can.
00:36:40
Um, Mohammad wants Will Envy.
00:36:42
Probably MVP this year.
00:36:43
So he probably wants to continue that show to going.
00:36:47
Yeah, but I think has Mahomes being Brady off these effort being braid his career like I'm pretty sure Brady's being every time they remember, he did beat him, opening week.
00:36:58
Um, I remember that was gosh 2018 or 2019 when Kareem Hunt was very unknown.
00:37:06
And he just went off on at Foxboro Andan that season.
00:37:12
I think they lost to them in the playoffs, Um, in the NFC championship game.
00:37:17
So I think I was gonna remember because I knew, like, yeah, I mean, Brady to the upper hand on him, like I know, like in a C championship game.
00:37:24
I mean, that was, like, controversial call, whatever.
00:37:27
But like, yeah, like still into being my homes, Probably things a little bit.
00:37:31
I mean, the well, I feel that they're gonna win to all that year.
00:37:33
So And they probably could have got anyone being the Rams.
00:37:36
I think so, Yeah.
00:37:38
I mean, screw screw Tom Brady would have been that Monday Night football game.
00:37:43
Rams Chiefs was incredible.
00:37:45
Best game ever watched in my life.
00:37:47
We could have had that for a Super Bowl Part two, and Tom Brady had to ruin it.
00:37:51
That's why you ain't the goat.
00:37:53
He ruins everything and, like Moses mentioned like he wants to be like the best quarterback all time.
00:37:59
I mean, obviously, like Tom Brady like staying the way, it's all the actual stuff that Mahomes wants.
00:38:04
So, like, probably the internal drive for him to kind of, like, go out and, like, show out against Tom Brady himself and get the wind have really good stats.
00:38:12
So it's always even nice internal like motive, for sure, but yeah, I mean, I think it could still get a good game to watch, I think w keeping an eye on it.
00:38:23
So I think this could be Super Bowl.
00:38:25
Potentially could mean the Bucks are still pretty good.
00:38:28
I know you've been kind of hard on Brady all year and hard in the Bucks, but I said there's definitely still a pretty good team and definitely in the conversation and I'll see you, if I may.
00:38:39
Can I bring up to other games real quick after going, um, Chargers, Bills, Chargers or three and seven Bills or 73? But obviously charges have lost a lot of close games.
00:38:51
Looks like Austin Heckler will be back.
00:38:55
Hey was designated return from IR.
00:38:57
That is huge.
00:38:59
Um, this could be very interesting game and then Titans Colts both teams.
00:39:03
They're seven and three, obviously.
00:39:05
Colts one, just two weeks ago.
00:39:07
Um, this could really solidify the division for them.
00:39:12
Would give them a game.
00:39:13
And the tiebreaker over Tennessee with the next closest being Houston Texans at four and seven.
00:39:19
So those air also two games toe keep an eye on.
00:39:22
Maybe not watch, but keep an eye on. Yeah.
00:39:25
Who would you pick an ABC stuff on between Colton.
00:39:27
Titans? Yeah.
00:39:29
Um, it all depends on the colds defense.
00:39:34
The colds defense looks elite, Um, looks elite again.
00:39:38
They're gonna win.
00:39:39
I think they take the F C South, But the Packers, the Packers made them look pretty bad in the first half in that fourth quarter.
00:39:47
Obviously, they got the win.
00:39:49
I'm not hating on the Colts, but, um, they definitely showed them flaws.
00:39:53
And any team would want to give up 28 in the first half, so I'm gonna lean Titans.
00:39:58
It's tough to be the team twice, but, man, if this defense gets rolling, good luck.
00:40:06
Yeah.
00:40:07
I mean, like, the times of, like, look pretty good all year.
00:40:09
This in general, like, obviously was actually championship game last year.
00:40:13
And derek kind of just absolute monster, but I mean, like, I made the mistake of I thought the culture they won the division last year and, like, obviously Italian end up winning it.
00:40:22
So I mean the same time like I'll probably e don't even make the mystic again.
00:40:28
So I'll probably all the times this time because, I mean, I have faith in a coach last year and they let me down.
00:40:33
So I had to go the Times this year to kind of make sure like I get a decent pick this year, I should get it right for once.
00:40:41
So I mean, give yourself credit.
00:40:43
Nobody knew luck was going to retire.
00:40:46
Like after what? Like the third preseason game.
00:40:48
So I heard.
00:40:54
So, yeah, um, then you brought the Chargers game.
00:40:58
I mean, like, obviously like, I'm probably picking the bill, Probably.
00:41:03
But I mean, like like, I know you're a big charge here because your hair is just Herbert.
00:41:06
I told you he was good.
00:41:08
You're like, No, you're not good.
00:41:10
I said, bro, you good? Your hey, I'm actually the opposite.
00:41:14
I actually really liked Charger's.
00:41:16
I love Austin Tackler.
00:41:17
He's my favorite running back in NFL.
00:41:19
Don't your Herbert haters.
00:41:22
I'm not a charges hater, though.
00:41:24
I love Keenan Allen.
00:41:25
Uh, you know, I grew up loving lt loving Antonio Gates, loving those guys.
00:41:31
So I'm not a huge fan of their quarterbacks all the time, But I'm a Chargers fan.
00:41:36
I'm a Chargers fan.
00:41:37
Lett's pump the brakes a little bit there.
00:41:38
Yeah, hating on Herbert.
00:41:41
You hated until the rivers.
00:41:42
He said, like it was the hall of Fame on that, bro, would you talk about? I corrected myself.
00:41:48
I looked up the stats.
00:41:49
I you know, I admit it.
00:41:51
Yes.
00:41:52
You should be in the Hall of Fame.
00:41:53
Okay, so bite down a little bit. Pipe down.
00:41:56
I know I was giving you a little crap.
00:41:59
I saw home.
00:42:03
That's all I have for topics today.
00:42:05
I just killed just mainly a big, like, a week.
00:42:07
Really? Yeah, I know that you wanted to talk about Yes.
00:42:13
Where is the MBA? Um, it will be very interesting.
00:42:19
They did release, um, a 134 page guide.
00:42:25
Takeover protocols.
00:42:27
Um, we know Adam Silver is very, very good at his job.
00:42:35
Is the best out of any commissioner? Uh, 134 pages long.
00:42:42
Um, and it's similar to the one from the bubble.
00:42:45
And remember, we will not have the bubbles like over 100 pages to.
00:42:48
I'm pretty sure it was like a really long and he's not going to screw around.
00:42:52
They already lost a ton of money.
00:42:54
They're going to lose a ton more money without fans.
00:42:57
He's not going to screw around.
00:42:58
I don't think he's going.
00:42:59
It's not 82 games in 72 games, too, and a lot of back to back smaller teams.
00:43:05
So more close contact, Uh, he's not going to screw out.
00:43:09
I don't know what you think, but I think this is gonna be a season where, um, we could see a lot of crackdowns.
00:43:15
And by that I mean, there gonna be some players that I think could get either suspended or find a hefty amount of money because, um, he also has.
00:43:24
He's has the players in mind.
00:43:28
He also has have owners in mind, and he definitely does.
00:43:30
I think this is going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.
00:43:37
Yeah, the chance of like, you know, the protocols. Exactly.
00:43:40
Where is this? Simply just how the bubble was kind of just coming there just like, pretty much basically wearing mask and like, spreading on the bench and whatnot.
00:43:48
Or do you know just someone with bubble head or anything like that stuck out? Yeah, basically, um, one of the big things that is it has a rule system for what will happen on somebody. Test positive.
00:44:01
There's a time based on a test based return.
00:44:04
Um, and it also says that any player was determined to have a new positive, whether they have symptoms or not, they cannot do anything for at least 10 days.
00:44:16
Um, and after that 10 days, they have to spend two days with themselves working out.
00:44:23
They must participate in a cardiac screening.
00:44:26
Um, and then any player who test positive again will optimist a minimum of 12 more games.
00:44:34
Um, which I like.
00:44:36
Like we said, it's going to be very Yeah, not so much what? The Big 10 strategy with their protocol.
00:44:43
And it's going to be very interesting because, um, you know, if we get down to the end of the season and there some guys, um, you know, covert protocols that are very important players.
00:44:56
I'm not gonna point any names that teams because, I don't know, but I think they're gonna be some corners that are gonna be cut.
00:45:02
I think teams and players are going to try to get cute.
00:45:04
I think it's gonna be very interesting to see how this all plays out, because him sending this out now tells you he's not messing around.
00:45:11
Yeah, I think it's interesting because like, there's been a lot of really good vaccine news they're talking about, maybe potentially start rolling them out into December.
00:45:18
January somewhat, I'm wondering.
00:45:20
I feel like they probably give birth priority, get, try to get MBA players and, like, feels kind of athletes like first round of the vaccine.
00:45:27
So I wonder about how that be incorporated with what kind of relaxed a little bit.
00:45:33
After that, it will be required.
00:45:34
All players will have to get it, or I wonder how that would work well, and it will be very interesting. Thio.
00:45:41
I know, you know, kind of going a little off topic, but really on topic.
00:45:45
The books have said that for the foreseeable future they won't have any fans.
00:45:50
Um, I would assume a lot of teams to do the same thing, but, um this vaccine is starting to get rolled out.
00:45:56
Ah, lot of places have their own vaccines to, um I'm feeling a little more positive.
00:46:02
I don't know about you, but, um, once you start rolling out, it's gonna be all hands on deck.
00:46:08
Maybe we get fans back a little sooner and we thought, Just, you know, about a month ago in some of our podcasts.
00:46:14
I mean, I think it's possible, but like just hearing the expert, they're saying like, probably released a general public by April, Probably more than likely.
00:46:22
So, like, maybe by like, the playoffs, you probably get, like some fans in there and stuff.
00:46:28
I think most season probably be no fans, but I would assume the players probably get vaccinated, like I'm sure they'll get some way to prioritize them to get one for one.
00:46:36
Sure they have them.
00:46:38
Resource is, I'm sure they'll be like priority.
00:46:41
So maybe after a while, like they'll get kind of real life.
00:46:44
There's some of the protocol would not so kind of seized how that world plays out.
00:46:48
Yeah, and even if they don't get priority, I'm sure the MBA will be fine with pain out the ass, um, to private companies to get him.
00:46:58
Um, and if they don't get that to your system, they're gonna get them.
00:47:03
They'll just pay for them, and they'll pay a lot for him.
00:47:05
But, um hey, everybody can get vaccinated, you know, vaccines.
00:47:11
Um, you know, I'm just gonna go out and see if they work.
00:47:16
Um, it mutes the virus.
00:47:18
So and at least other vaccines.
00:47:21
So, hey, if it happens in players may be the moment of time to sit out.
00:47:25
Could be five days that attend.
00:47:27
We'll see.
00:47:28
Yeah, we seem to have place off.
00:47:32
Um, so that's all I ask is what do you think? That's the right call him releasing it now, or oh, yeah, for sure.
00:47:39
I mean, like Martin. Yeah.
00:47:41
Training camp starts Tuesday, so Yeah, I would say so.
00:47:46
So, yeah. I mean, yeah, I start training camp on Tuesday.
00:47:49
So and then pre season starts on December 9th.
00:47:52
That's not this Wednesday, but next Wednesday, so, yeah, you got to get on top of it for sure.
00:48:00
Mhm.
00:48:03
Well, that's all I had for in this episode of 17.
00:48:06
Reasonable doubt.
00:48:07
Yeah.
00:48:08
I feel free to tweet in us if you wanna ask? Any questions will answer them on the show.
00:48:12
Trevor, the Charlie in two MSC underscore more six.
00:48:16
And how your name I'll go on Go Packers.
00:48:21
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