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How are you feeling? How we doing today On this fine evening? I am doing wonderful.
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Re amp.
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And you know, Jessie has things going on.
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Alex is a is a busy person, so I was kind of we're kind of taking it over as our as our baby.
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They're kind of almost handing it over to us.
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So me and Michael, we're gonna, you know, try our best to keep it.
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You know where they wanted to be.
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Well, try. We're gonna make you guys proud.
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Of course, we're gonna keep everything the same, but we're just gonna kick it.
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You don't even you don't even watch baseball.
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You're killing me here, guy.
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I'm not surprised you even know who the Dodgers are.
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But, Michael Thank you, Josh, for being our very first comment ever on this show.
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But Michael, let's get into the baseball talk cause that's what we are here for.
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The Dodgers are your world, Siri's champions and well, before we get into the whole, you know, bubble Season 60 game thing.
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I want to start with this because it's something that you know.
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I don't know really how I felt about it coming into the season.
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And, you know, it's always in the back your mind, because people will never let you forget about it.
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But in your opinion, does this take the ****** off of Kershaw's back? If not, you know, being clutched in the playoffs? He was.
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He was pretty good in the playoffs this season.
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He won both of his starts in the world.
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Siri's. I believe you have, like a to e. R A.
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In those games.
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So what do you just initial thoughts on If you got that ****** off his back, I think.
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Yes, I think it does get this ****** off of his back.
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But here's the thing Next season, if they go back to the Super Bowl when he happens again, I think the ****** is right there.
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I'm sorry.
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Sorry, e.
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I was on the NFL show yesterday.
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My mind was there.
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Sorry. Yes, the world.
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Siri's.
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I need to change these guys out.
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I've got my football stuff still Kentucky.
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I need to get my bobble heads out for this show.
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But to the world, Siri's again, then? Yes.
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I mean, if he has another tank like he has in the past.
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And I think the ****** pops right back out of the hat there.
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But as a right now, at this moment, no, I think it does erase the memories of the past for a lot of fans and a lot of players and even holders on that.
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It's just it basically is a fresh start for him now.
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Basically, I've done it.
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I've overcame I've conquered.
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Let's move on.
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So, yes, I think it actually get the ****** off of his back.
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What about you? Yeah, I agree with it because you know, being a Yankee fan.
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I look at it this way.
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I remember, you know, the playoff series with a Rod where he was always great during the regular season.
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And then he began to the playoffs.
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And, man, it was not very fun to watch sometimes.
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So it kind of reminds me of that because that 2009 World Series that the Yankees won their last one, that they've won.
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Sadly, as I cry it here, Um, he basically carried that team.
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I don't know if people forget how good he was in that 2009 playoffs, but he was absolutely unbelievable.
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I remember the, uh, walk off against the twin or not the walk off.
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He tied it up in the bottom of the ninth inning against the Twins.
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You know, he was just unbelievable in that postseason.
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He kind of really carrying the Yankees.
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And that's kind of what I look at for Kershaw, because maybe he didn't carry them because, you know, Jack Peterson still won the World Series M v p.
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But he did very good.
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He did what he what we've always kind of wanted him to do in the playoffs.
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he was because, you know, I feel like everybody looked at it.
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He was, you know, Kershaw in the regular season.
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And then as he got into the playoffs, he turned into a completely different type of pitcher.
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And he didn't do that. This year.
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He was steady.
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I know that.
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Me and Caleb definitely didn't think he would do that.
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As we were making a little side bets with Alex and Perry.
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About how much? You know, Kershaw was gonna was gonna blow up because we kind of just expected that.
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But he finally didn't.
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And he I think, in my opinion, he got the ****** off his back.
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Because now listen for all the things ideas 32 time Cy Young Award winner.
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He wanted M v p.
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He did all these things.
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But the thing that we're always gonna look at now is the first thing.
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Hey, Kershaw, world Siri's, That's what's gonna come to your head now.
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Even you know more than the things he did.
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And I was scared for him because I thought that with all those accomplishments, the first thing that you mentioned when you thought about Kershaw was gonna be the playoff stakes.
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But now listen.
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He has that world Siri's, so he could tell everybody toe, you know, go do something else because he finally finally did it.
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Yes, and kudos to him for that.
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And kudos to all the Dodger fans in our unwrapped sports network.
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Periods of Big advocate forum, even cheese wise cheese Trying to think, of course.
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Whom there it is. Yes.
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So, yes, I'm happy for them.
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But what's more amazing with this with the Dodgers, is Magic Johnson.
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Have you? Did you know he's one with the Dodgers? He's one with the Lakers.
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He's one with the Sparks as well, the W N B 18.
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And I believe that's it.
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Which that's a three e think he has, like, What do you have like over 10 championships as a player known? Er, that's pretty amazing right there.
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Kudos to him and he beat AIDS.
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E O man, that z fantastic! Too much.
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No, no, I just Honestly, that that might be one of the best things I've heard all day.
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Monique, take that.
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And that will be our, uh, one minute introduction.
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That's next.
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That's what I want our ad Thio.
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Good job.
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We will head on over to the other side of the ball.
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When it comes to Game six.
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I know Kirk started pitching. Game six bestow.
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Um, Blakes.
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Now it's Listen, it's the decision that I feel like everybody is gonna be talking about until at least next year, you're gonna have the pro baseball people versus the ****ytics people.
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And I mean, listen, just being here in New York, listening to all the talk shows were not even obviously.
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We're all Yankee met fans here, and people still can't stop talking about it.
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I want because I know how I feel about it.
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I might get a little more heated than you will, so I'm gonna let you go first.
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What do you think about the decision to take out snow? And, you know, I guess you know, if you want to, you can dive into the the ****ytic side of things.
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I'll try not to stay out a little bit because, you know, we have talked a little bit, and I think this will be your time for your segment, if you will in a second.
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But it's very this letting heart.
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I mean, my I'm trying to think of the right word I want to use for this.
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I mean, I was so let down in this situation for snail because, I mean, he had nine K's in, like, five innings pitched.
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Only had, like, 75 pitches.
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Count on to this point and they pull him because ****ytical says, Hey, this is the time for pulling.
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The dude was going, man.
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I mean, he was dealing case like crazy.
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And to think that they go This is the world Siri's.
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This is our final game.
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If we lose, you know, this is the right time that we're supposed to pull you. I'm sorry.
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There's times when you got to go with your gut and got to go with your heart on players.
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I mean, that's why you see all these times that they're like, Okay, well, hold up.
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So once I was going into bat right here because I'm feeling it.
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He's ready for it.
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This is his moment.
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And you got to go with that.
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So I mean, I feel like the Rays really messed up by taking him out there.
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That is my point of view on that.
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I, like ****ytical is don't get me wrong I love the numbers, and I think it is a big part of baseball now.
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But I don't know why players don't use the the reverse of this.
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And I will say this a little bit like there's so many times for Cincinnati Reds fan that the defense shifted so bad against the Reds players.
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We've got quite a few left handed hitters, so the shift was on and sometimes in the right, righties were up.
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They shift the other way.
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Why not just lay a button down or just little slap it down the third base line? At least get yourself on base? And they I've heard people say that That's not the way the ****ytics goes because you're just basically giving her bad up.
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But at the same time, you're making the picture pitch to another person and me.
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I always feel like the more pitches on that picture, the quicker he's gonna be out of the game.
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So if I take a couple pitches, knock it down third base line, getting the first.
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Now he's got to pitch to the other guy.
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If he makes an air, it's a two run lead, so I mean, that's just how I feel on it.
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Yeah, you could do this all ****ytics you want.
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But then you just gotta have someone that's gonna be bold and step up and reverse what they're doing, and then they will exceed because they're the only ones out there as well.
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So that's my opinion.
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And I'll let you go ahead now.
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Yeah, it just it blows my mind.
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I mean, being, you know, younger than you know, I'll say than you.
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And just even just a few years.
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Yeah, just only a year or two, right? E.
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But But even being younger, it's just it's just such an annoying thing.
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And you know, I love baseball is a sport that I grew up with.
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You know, I played even though I was absolutely terrible And, you know, my brothers played so I grew up around it.
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I I watched, you know, every Yankee game that I could be in a Yankees fan and it ****ytics are just They're ruining it for me.
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I don't care what anybody says you, but that's the thing to you're not gonna lose May.
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You're not gonna lose.
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May I? Listen, You can sit down.
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You can send me in front of a Yankee game and I watch it all day.
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Mind numbingly stupid like I am.
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But you take our Blakes now who like you said five and five and two thirds innings hasn't the nine K's.
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The Dodgers can't touch him the next three.
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Do you know what the You know what the at bats were for the next three people he was going to face in that inning? I don't They were over six with, I believe at least five strikeouts of the next three people he was gonna pitch.
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And don't get me wrong. I know it's Mookie.
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I know it's the top of the order, so there was definitely where your players are.
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I don't care.
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I don't care because, you know, and listening to the Michael Kay Show today, which is the Yankee announced.
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You has a radio show here in New York as well, and you know, he says it best.
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Hey, interviewed Joe Torry one time, and to me, Joe Torry really says what it is.
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You know, ****ytics would have told him to take out David Cohen in certain situations, or ****ytics would have told him to take out David Wells in certain situations, But there's something that ****ytics won't tell you, and this is what Joe Torre said, he said ****ytics won't tell you that David Kona is willing to kill somebody to get the next better batter out.
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And maybe that person that you're bringing in from the bullpen, It's just I think I could get this guy out while David Cone is out there.
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No, I'm gonna give my full entire energy, and I just don't understand it like it's the same thing.
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I see it all the time.
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It's, you know, Luke Voyeur or whoever you want to name your favorite player, you can think about them is three for 32 home runs.
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Six R b I's in the game before, but ****ytics say that he has to sit the next game because that that's gonna make them healthier for the long run.
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There's just certain times where you have to throw numbers out, and I just don't understand what it is because now the Rays now the rays look dumb and listen, don't get me wrong.
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I know that ****ytics is what got them to the World Series is what got in the Game six.
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But here's my problem with ****ytics.
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Another thing.
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Even the ****ytic nerds who sit there on their iPads and and they're a little bow ties have all agreed that over the course of a season, absolutely use ****ytics.
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But in the postseason, it's up.
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It's up in the air if they're actually gonna work.
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So you're going to sit here and tell me that I can't manage my way, because the numbers say something different.
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But even you can agree.
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The ****ytic person can agree that in a short series like that, numbers may may not work because these numbers are built for 1 62.
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They're not built for a five game Siri's where this or that can happen.
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So it just it blows my mind because that and the other thing about the raise to is here's why you're so deep into the numbers.
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You care about the numbers so much.
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But why don't you look at the numbers that Mookie bats like 200 against left handed pitchers? Which is what Snell is? Or that the person you were bringing in was absolutely terrible in the postseason because he was so tired even after the game.
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I I can't remember who they brought in.
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It's escaping my mind at the moment after snow, but he even said after the after the game, Oh, yeah, the balls is not coming out of my hand The same because I've been tired.
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So you're gonna take out your best pitcher Kevin Carey.
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Meyer said that he that was the best he's ever seen.
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Snow pitch.
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He won a Cy Young won a Cy Young two years ago, and now you have somebody saying it's the best he's ever seen a pitch and you still take him out because you're the person in I 05 with your bow tie on said, Listen, the numbers here don't don't say that.
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You should leave him in.
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It boggles my mind.
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It annoys me.
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It kills it.
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Like you said, the shifts annoying me.
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I don't know how you change it because it's not like Rob Manfred and say, Listen, you can't you can't hire smart people, so I don't know how they're gonna fix it, but like I said, you're not losing me.
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But let me tell you something.
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The people, my age of people, you are gonna be the people that are gonna be watching your game for the next 60 years.
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You're losing them.
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So it's not my problem.
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It's it's gonna be baseballs.
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And I would love to see how they how they try to do something like that.
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I mean, if you really think about it, you might as well put robots out there like everyone's a big computer and goes out there and calculates doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.
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OK, snail is going to throw a curveball here at this part.
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More than likely, I'm swinging their robot swings.
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The pitch goes wherever I'm.
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That's basically what you're playing now.
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There's no heart.
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You cannot calculate heart and effort into the computer.
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So it's basically your managers to what stops.
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Tell me this, Michael, if you and if you have And if I sound like an idiot, please tell me what What stops me and you from being a manager in today's MLB? Nothing, because all you have to do is no the ****ytics.
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I mean, I need to get someone from yell to say, Okay, you've run the numbers.
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Now, come here, whisper in my ear and let me know what I need to do because you give me my spreadsheet.
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Okay? In this situation, the best thing that should happen is this.
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Okay, this is what we're gonna do.
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Guys, this is this and go.
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So, yeah, I mean, I agree with you like you have somebody coming down with the lineup card saying this is gonna be the best.
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This is the best lineup that you could put out today.
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You have somebody telling you, you know, when you should take out a picture because God for video, anybody in the world see somebody third time through the order? Listen, let me tell you something.
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I know the Yankees are in ****ytics, but if we just paid Garrett called 333 $150 million whatever the hell he got toe only pitched two times through the order.
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Listen, your you lost me there.
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You know, lost.
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May what I think is kind of funny and interesting to see breaking news today.
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I'm sure you guys seen it.
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Is Tony LaRussa just got hired for the White Sox.
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I don't know if that was in here to talk about it, so I'm sorry.
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He said he he's 72 year old man.
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I don't think he's going to buy into the ****ytics.
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That's just me.
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Personally.
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He's I mean, I'm 30 four.
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I heard that that ruffles feathers in the in the Chicago front office.
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Oh, I'm sure because it's these young, no offensive, you young generation that only goes by these numbers and don't take in the heart and effort from this.
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So I think it's gonna be interesting to see how the White Sox do.
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I think they're a decent team, actually, no.
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Yeah, absolutely made the playoffs this year.
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I think that they were a year ahead on what a lot of people thought they were gonna be.
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And I'm telling you right now, he's not coming in there.
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And, you know, I was watching once again Michael Kay show today, but and he said, You know, he buys into the numbers, don't get don't get me wrong but he's not going to sit there and be like, you know, Kevin Cash of the Rays, who is strictly based in the numbers, and this is also and I don't know how you feel about it.
00:18:03
Once again, I have a hard time is saying a manager is bad.
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Now, how are you going to stay here and tell me that somebody is a bad manager or somebody is a great manager? You know, we hear these things all the time.
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How? Why? Why are they better? Because their numbers worked more like E.
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Because I don't really know what manager maybe Joe Maddon does it.
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Or or Or somebody you know, Maura old school does it more than you know, the new school manager.
00:18:30
Like an Aaron Boone.
00:18:31
Like a Kevin Cash? Um a J.
00:18:33
Hinch, believe it or not, from, you know, the cheating Astros I also heard might be eyes like the front runner for a head coaching.
00:18:41
Uh, Joe, I can't remember where it was now, but I saw it today before we came on that a J.
00:18:48
Hinch might might be is it wasn't the twins. Did.
00:18:51
They fired their manager? I don't think so.
00:18:53
Because didn't they make the playoffs too? Yeah, but I know they got they went in the first round because they haven't I don't know.
00:19:00
I don't know where it is, but I know that a. J. Hinch a.
00:19:03
J.
00:19:04
Hinch choose another person that buys into the numbers is, is a leading candidate for for, Ah, job somewhere.
00:19:08
So you know the numbers aren't going anywhere.
00:19:11
Don't get me wrong unless, you know, here's my thing because every league is a copycat league, everybody knows that.
00:19:18
The only way I think the numbers are ever going to go anywhere is if, you know, maybe he comes into the White Sox and he says, You know, it's screw this, I'm not.
00:19:27
You could take your numbers and go do whatever you want with them.
00:19:30
I'm managing the way that I've always managed and they win a world serious somehow without the numbers.
00:19:36
I think that's the only way because other people will say, Oh, look, maybe maybe that's the way we should be going instead of you know, Billy Billy from, you know, Section A said that we have to hit a home run in our first that battle.
00:19:48
We lose 82% of the time.
00:19:50
Well, that's like honestly, watching the Reds this year was such a rollercoaster.
00:19:54
We started out hot, won a few games **** Covad for 15,000 times and then had 10 people in and out of the lineup.
00:20:01
but no matter what, they went by the numbers.
00:20:03
And Jesse and I've said on so many different shows.
00:20:07
The Reds air good until about the seventh inning and then we suck because we put in relievers.
00:20:11
Well, you would think after a while if we could notice this with our own fan eyes that seventh inning and on is looking ridiculous.
00:20:18
Maybe they should check the numbers there and see what's going on with that.
00:20:21
Not only that, the Reds never attempted a bunt this season.
00:20:26
Not one time did we attempted because the numbers say that gives an out and while wasting out and also we never did like a sacrifice A bull? Uh, well, in in ground.
00:20:37
We did not actually mean to have that called a slap bond, if you will, on that just thio.
00:20:43
So we swung, swung swang, swang swang, Frozen interest, Yes, but we are batting average was like 2 23 for the season, But yet we were third in home runs for the year.
00:20:59
So it was either hit a long ball or strike out and it was pathetic and then not me personally going by the numbers and not playing small ball.
00:21:08
Not playing baseball in a my game instead of a computer game cost us a Siri's where we couldn't even do anything because we hit Atlanta good.
00:21:18
We just didn't hit home runs we had.
00:21:20
I think one game we had 10 base runners or batters on base that we could not bring in because we did not bunt.
00:21:27
We didn't know how to bunt. We actually tried.
00:21:29
I think it was Tucker.
00:21:30
Barnhart, who is a catcher, tried to lay down a bunt once, and it looked.
00:21:33
He almost struck out. Doing it.
00:21:35
They decided, said, You know what? Let's go back to the numbers, let him swing and he struck out. So we left.
00:21:40
So many batters are runners on base that it was ridiculous.
00:21:42
So small ball is the thing, guys, you've got to be able.
00:21:46
I think the numbers were good, but I think you gotta mention together somehow.
00:21:50
Yeah, you know, And speaking of numbers, I saw something today.
00:21:54
Actually, that well, I believe Tony Lewis, his first head coaching job or whatever manager job, whatever you want to say for baseball was 41 years ago and there's been MAWR home runs hit.
00:22:08
It's in those 41 years, then from the beginning of baseball, till when he started.
00:22:17
Like just in those 41 years, there's been more home runs.
00:22:19
So obviously we saw what the numbers are doing in home runs our crazy.
00:22:22
You're either striking out walking or hitting a home run now.
00:22:25
I mean, people like D.
00:22:26
J.
00:22:27
LeMay who who? Listen, I know we're getting to free agency later, but the Yankees, I might I might burn down the stadium if if if they don't resign him somehow.
00:22:37
But people like him don't even exist anymore.
00:22:40
You know, you could go opposite field, you know, do whatever they want.
00:22:43
So numbers are absolutely crazy.
00:22:45
But we've spent our time how we feel that the numbers, I think are are very apparent at the moment.
00:22:51
I know that we're also going to disagree on this next point, but I'll let you go first.
00:22:57
Does this Dodgers world Siri's have an Asterix to you? You know, we're going to defer.
00:23:04
I know we are.
00:23:05
Hmm.
00:23:06
Well, I think it does not have a nasty Okay, now, I changed my mind.
00:23:11
We're not, but I will say it has to be member ID remembered.
00:23:15
Just attacked.
00:23:16
Well, as I even say that, Yeah, I think it needs an ass trick bite.
00:23:19
And it's not that we're gonna disagree, Aziz, I'm sitting here talking about Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from it, but yes, I'm not saying that a strict.
00:23:27
So it is saying, Oh, it shouldn't candidate, but at least a note to save.
00:23:32
Check the bottom.
00:23:33
Okay, This was a shortened season, and so many go over different things going on.
00:23:38
I even heard arguments that the Dodgers faces, like the easiest path to get to the world.
00:23:43
Siri's now, to me, that is not a question that should never been argued because it doesn't matter.
00:23:48
Whoever is there is who you face.
00:23:50
That's just your road.
00:23:51
Don't penalize the best team in baseball for an easier road when they became the best team in baseball to get there.
00:23:56
So my my opinion on that if you're a professional, you should be good.
00:24:01
You should either be your best and try to stop it.
00:24:03
Or you shouldn't even be pitching or plan.
00:24:05
That's how I feel on that, uh, side note on that.
00:24:08
I used to hate it because as a point guard in high school and one year in college, I would actually get told so many times.
00:24:15
Don't throw to such and such because they're in the game, you know they're gonna drop it.
00:24:19
I would always want to tell my coach I never did.
00:24:21
Don't have him in the game If he can't catch the ball, That's just how I always feel on that.
00:24:26
There is one player every game.
00:24:27
I'd hit him in the head with the ball because he just would not pay attention.
00:24:30
I throw behind the back pass or something pretty be like, Oh, the crowd goes wild on Busses.
00:24:33
Nose starts bleeding time out.
00:24:35
Get him out of the game.
00:24:36
You're talking John Stockton.
00:24:38
I'm sorry, Jason Kidd, Not John Stockton.
00:24:41
Just okay, That's my hero.
00:24:43
But that's just my feeling on it.
00:24:45
I'm gonna say the smallest a strict possible because I don't wanna be taking any credit away from them because they they had to have good pitching be.
00:24:55
They had to hit home runs or score runs.
00:24:57
So yes, they accomplish that.
00:24:58
Yes, they did that, but the seasons was just different.
00:25:02
You know, like you're not going to say we're gonna have 160 games seasons from now, 100 seasons of 60 games seasons and then you're gonna be like, Okay, we could never break any of these records.
00:25:13
You're probably at some point when I say OK, we've got to brand off these records where they actually legit meet compare apples to apples, you know? So that's why I feel like it has to have some type of a strict I guess what I was trying to say earlier when I don't think it does is I don't want it to be an ass trick that it says, Oh, they didn't deserve it.
00:25:30
So, like the Astros, the Astros has a big ass tricked saying You guys are jerks.
00:25:38
Actually, it doesn't even have an ass trick.
00:25:39
It has a trash can bite because it was garbage.
00:25:42
What they did but helped on that.
00:25:45
So two different Asterix there.
00:25:47
One is saying you're cheaters.
00:25:49
You don't deserve it.
00:25:50
Your trophy should be taken away.
00:25:51
Your bonuses should be taken away as well on your just slapped on the wrist for basically screwing everyone over their championship Dodgers attractive, saying it was just a short season.
00:26:01
Some things may not have planned out or paying out the way that it should have in a full season, and I'll leave it at that on that.
00:26:09
I take it that you don't think it deserves one, but you Now I love my that I made and you agree with me because I'm genius.
00:26:17
Uh, listen, I honestly thought that at first you were going to say that they should be an Asterix because of the short season.
00:26:24
But I feel like you're more leading to an Asterix because, you know, not everything would have been the same.
00:26:30
Maybe if that is that if that's what you're trying to say, because of the short season, the only argument that I make for it not having an Asterix is because, honestly, like I know that the long season it za marathon and this was more of a sprint, blah, blah, blah.
00:26:43
You could do whatever metaphor you want, but I look at it and honestly, this might have been the hardest World Series to win, and you know, you you think about it because MLB kind of surprised everybody was saying, Listen, there's no off days in the playoffs.
00:26:58
Besides, in the world, Siri's.
00:26:59
So for this one, you kind of have to start a hot You had toe stay hot through the season, and then you have to stay hot through the playoffs.
00:27:06
Because, listen, you know, most teams go through that weird stretch.
00:27:09
I know the Yankees didn't this year several several times as we have Matt in here.
00:27:15
But, you know, it's there was no I Look at it this way.
00:27:21
Clayton Kershaw in a in a seven game series, is gonna pitch twice or, you know, a Gary Cole is gonna pitch twice.
00:27:26
Or you know how.
00:27:27
If you wanna bring it back on short rest twice, maybe even three times in this series, you can't.
00:27:31
You can't do that.
00:27:32
You have to make sure that, you know if your starter only goes for innings in game one, are you Are you waving the white flag for game one and putting in your bad bullpen? You know, pictures bad e don't know how bad it could be if you're in the MLB. Yeah.
00:27:48
Are you putting them in or, you know, Are you close enough? Do you think you have the offense for that? game one to put in your better players.
00:27:56
So maybe you can come back and then, you know, game to Since you use them, you probably can't use them again.
00:28:01
And I think there was just a lot more strategy that went into this world.
00:28:05
Siri's run then, Ah, lot of other ones because before it was, you know, the two games day off.
00:28:10
So listen, if I have to use, you know, a role in this Chapman two days in a row, it's I'm not I'm not really that work because we have a built in off day this one.
00:28:19
You know, halfway through the season, they were like, Hey, by the way, you guys don't have any off days, and I know that they definitely caught a lot of people by surprise because, you know, I always look at it to that.
00:28:29
If maybe they did say that there was gonna be no off days that ah, lot of teams might have went out and got more starting pitching, more bullpen help at the trade deadline. I know.
00:28:39
You know, maybe it would have been as active because it was a short season.
00:28:42
So maybe people don't want to trade for ah player than that.
00:28:44
And they're only gonna get them for 20 games instead of, you know, no longer amount of time that they usually would.
00:28:50
But, hey, I think this is one of the hardest World Series runs Any team could have possibly went on with the no off days, You know, all the, you know, the bubble.
00:28:59
Not, you know, not playing teams outside of it.
00:29:02
And, you know, for some people, I'm sure it was fine.
00:29:05
Because I know the Yankees.
00:29:08
You gotta play the Orioles and the Red Sox and however many times.
00:29:10
So it was fine for us.
00:29:11
You know, we don't want to play on the other team because they were just God awful.
00:29:14
But I look at this and think, you know, it was hard.
00:29:18
You can't You can't set things up like you always have.
00:29:21
It's a whole different strategy that you had to use, so I don't put any aspect next to it.
00:29:25
If anything, I'm my put an exclamation point there.
00:29:30
What a loser.
00:29:31
I'm sorry, loser.
00:29:34
I'm not put an exclamation point there.
00:29:36
I mean, I agree with what you're saying, but you know, even looking deeper, like you even said that you were playing that the Orioles and and some of the weaker teams more.
00:29:45
I mean, technically, that wouldn't be fair now, would it? Because some of the other teams didn't have that advantage.
00:29:51
You see, that's my That's my second thing, too, though, about why I don't put one are Are you? So, in a long season, what do you have been surprised at? The Dodgers won? Yeah.
00:30:01
Okay.
00:30:04
See, that's my thing.
00:30:05
If somehow this world Siri's ended up going, you know, to the Orioles or or the I was going to say White Sox.
00:30:13
But I forgot that they're actually good now, Um, the Orioles or the Marlins or a team like that e Marlins did.
00:30:21
Jesus, I keep, but you know, a terrible team.
00:30:24
We're just seeing a terrible team that nobody expected anything From then.
00:30:28
I would start looking at it as a kind of a weird thing because I think we all would have known.
00:30:33
And even the Marlins, I know they did make the playoffs, and I'm sorry for the three Marlins fans that might be actually out there.
00:30:39
But I think over the long season that they weren't gonna make the playoffs.
00:30:42
I really I really don't.
00:30:44
I mean, maybe they would have.
00:30:47
That's what I'm saying.
00:30:49
I'm thinking I say it's not an Asterix Only because a team that we know probably would have won.
00:30:53
It did win.
00:30:55
I think of a random team won it, then it would have been like, Okay, maybe this might be a weird kind of situation.
00:31:00
I know it's I know it's hypocritical.
00:31:02
Don't get me wrong.
00:31:03
I absolutely know it.
00:31:04
ISS Because what if the team that the Marlins took would have been a better team that could have made some or noise and upset someone because of worse? Teen was in the playoffs.
00:31:14
Even the Reds. Let's be honest.
00:31:16
We got a hot with like 20 games left and we won like 13 of the last seven were lost seven there or something like that, and I'm just throwing out a random number.
00:31:24
It was something high like that, and we made a push for the seventh place, maybe six place in that division or in the N L.
00:31:32
If that was a 61 162 games, would we stayed hot? Would we have made it a lot better.
00:31:38
I think you guys have the pitching to do it.
00:31:40
I think we did.
00:31:41
But at the same time, we won't ever know.
00:31:45
And the Marlins and the Reds were two teams that probably in 162 games may not have made it.
00:31:50
Or the Reds would have been finally set into the groove and made a better run.
00:31:54
So that's That's my only thing is there's just so many tangible things in this that can and cannot be calculated because it's not ****ytics, but anyway, s o.
00:32:04
Like I said, I don't want to take anything away from the Dodgers.
00:32:07
They were the best team from day one.
00:32:09
They were the best team, the day 60 plus your finals or your playoffs.
00:32:14
So kudos to you guys.
00:32:16
Now, if another team would have won, you're right, we would have said on a strict right, probably.
00:32:22
So why is it the same thing not having a strict on them just because we expected them to win? No.
00:32:30
Like I said, it Zahhar dpoint for me to argue, I'll admit, and you're probably right that I'm that I'm right now.
00:32:38
Oh, yeah, sure.
00:32:40
Michael's never been wrong in his life.
00:32:41
Actually, e actually call no Saddam A.
00:32:45
So it's just it's unbelievable, but I don't know.
00:32:50
I just look at it because it was the Dodgers who won, You know, the Rays were there.
00:32:56
There were two teams that we kind of expected to be there, and I don't know any team can get hot.
00:33:02
Like you said, You know, like you said, the Reds did get hot and they made it into the playoffs.
00:33:07
And I think baseball is one of those weird sports that if your top two pictures get hot, you could win whatever the hell you want.
00:33:13
I mean, the worst team in MLB history, still one like 60 games, so e mean everybody's gonna lose.
00:33:20
But it's just a weird argument for me.
00:33:22
I'm not gonna let me ask you this.
00:33:23
If the Lakers didn't win the NBA Finals this year because of the bubble and we say the sons would have won it because they caught fire in the bubble, they went eight.
00:33:34
No, if they were to make the playoffs because they couldn't, even though they did the best they could.
00:33:38
If the Sun's would have won the NBA Finals.
00:33:40
Would you have said Odd deserves on a strict because the bubble? No, I don't think it's the bubble situation that makes it an Asterix.
00:33:47
I think it's because, like the MBA, it was they went to the bubble to try to get other teams into the playoffs and things like that.
00:33:55
But I still think that the teams that were in the playoffs already, we're kind of set up even before the season, you know, got got shut down.
00:34:03
So I think you know, the the MBA was it was a clear cut thing.
00:34:08
And listen.
00:34:09
I didn't want the Lakers to win, trust me, but I think that there that the ship is fun.
00:34:13
Yeah, no, I'm not even the next families to be real there.
00:34:15
Let's be honest.
00:34:16
The bubble was only to try to get the Pelicans in the playoffs, owe more money.
00:34:20
That's absolutely the only reason they had a bubble.
00:34:23
And and all that and the expansion was was to try to get Zion versus LeBron in the first round.
00:34:29
That was literally the only reason that's it backfired on.
00:34:33
It's all rigged.
00:34:35
It is, but I know it's a weird argument but I'll stick with my point because I am a man of my word.
00:34:41
Just like Carson Wentz for M v p O e.
00:34:49
Still better with one leg. Whatever.
00:34:52
We'll save that for the NFL.
00:34:53
Now.
00:34:54
I don't know how you feel about this.
00:34:56
I know we kind of talked about it in the pre show.
00:34:59
I think this Justin Turner situation is he's an idiot, in my opinion.
00:35:04
Listen, don't get me wrong a little bit.
00:35:06
Why you tell us what's going on here? Oh, no, don't.
00:35:10
Don't you worry.
00:35:11
I'm getting there. I'm getting there.
00:35:13
I know that they were probably in the same room, and maybe they had the virus already, because, you know, Justin Turner, And listen, don't get me wrong.
00:35:23
I'm not only putting this on Justin Turner.
00:35:25
I think the MLB handled this situation absolutely awful.
00:35:29
And I mean, if you want a summary of the situation, go look at Shepherd Bowers Twitter, because he's certainly does not mind, you know, saying what he thinks, But I know that they were probably in the same room.
00:35:41
You know, the players, everything like that.
00:35:44
But you have a positive test.
00:35:48
Come back.
00:35:49
You are taken out of the game, and it's not like it's, uh it's up to the clubs, you know, to determine how they're gonna deal with with the player who gets it.
00:36:01
It is a agreed upon thing between the MLB and the MLB Players Association that if you test positive for this, this is what you're gonna dio.
00:36:08
So it's not like it wasn't up in the air situation where it's like, Oh, do we have to take him out of the game now? Like no, get your taking out of the game, go toe whatever room they locked you away in and stay there. Don't get me wrong.
00:36:20
I know it has to suck for Justin Turner that his team just won the world.
00:36:24
Siri's and you know he can probably legitimately hear them outside of the room celebrating the World Series.
00:36:30
But my my other problem with it is he goes back onto the field, and if it was maybe just the Dodgers, just the Dodgers out there, uh, maybe I don't have such a big problem with it because, like I said, they were all in the same room together in the locker room, together in the dugout.
00:36:46
He had been in the game, so they were all you know with each other anyway.
00:36:50
So maybe if maybe they already have it anyway.
00:36:54
But my problem with him coming back onto the field is now.
00:36:56
There's different people on the field.
00:36:58
It's not just the Dodgers, its media.
00:37:00
Now it's, you know, people's kids.
00:37:02
And, you know, there was, you know, pregnant wives out there and things like that.
00:37:06
That's mawr of my problem with it.
00:37:09
It's not the coming back onto the field, which I still think.
00:37:12
Listen, you agreed to something.
00:37:13
You shouldn't have been there.
00:37:14
You should have.
00:37:15
You know, Ben in a place that they put you after they figured out you were positive, but I just look at it more as a self situation.
00:37:23
I know it has to be terrible Thio here, your team celebrating something that you've worked your legitimate entire career for.
00:37:30
But you got you got different people to worry about.
00:37:33
It's not like it's a cold where listen, I catch a cold.
00:37:36
I might still go toe, you know, work or school or something like that, because nobody it's not, You know it's not that big this is something that you know that shut down more than one country.
00:37:45
So to me, I don't know.
00:37:47
It was just It was just a stupid thing for him.
00:37:50
I'm sorry.
00:37:51
All I heard the whole time is I'm so sensitive.
00:37:53
I'm so sensitive.
00:37:54
I'm so sensitive. I'm sorry. That's all.
00:37:57
I heard there because listen, yes, he played.
00:38:00
What? When was he pulled? Sixth inning, fifth inning.
00:38:03
Something like that. Hey.
00:38:06
Was already in the pulpit or in the dugout with him for over an hour.
00:38:10
Not to mention all the warm ups.
00:38:11
Plus being in the locker room with him, getting the showering before or after practices, batting practice.
00:38:17
All this stuff in the locker room getting dressed with him.
00:38:20
He was already around them.
00:38:22
And my problem is, who released that he had it like, Is that not a hip of thing? You could actually say Trevor Bauer, say this.
00:38:29
Like if you look at the NFL right now, there is a player with the Chargers who has tested positive.
00:38:37
They don't say names, but all of a sudden MLB is like, Oh, the reason he was pulled is because he has it.
00:38:45
That's totally against all policies.
00:38:47
That is personal information that they shared.
00:38:50
They should have just kept it quite probably said, Hey, which they did, right? They should have said you should isolate.
00:38:56
He still has his right to say yes or no on that.
00:38:59
Now, I'm not gonna be like a amendment rights and all this freedom of speech stuff, but it's the world.
00:39:05
Siri's.
00:39:06
You've already been around him.
00:39:07
If you actually did test positive, the guys that you're with are more than likely already going to be tested positive.
00:39:13
Do you agree on that? No.
00:39:15
Yeah, Like I said, though, that's not my biggest problem with it.
00:39:17
It's the fact.
00:39:18
No, but it's the fact that now you're on the field with people you weren't around.
00:39:23
Now you're on the field with the media of people that are trying to cover it.
00:39:27
You and me are sitting side by side right here in my house for over an hour.
00:39:31
I get tested.
00:39:32
Positive. Oh, snap.
00:39:33
Let me go. Isolate.
00:39:34
Are you gonna isolate from your wife when you get home? Even you would stay isolated from your wife for two weeks because I most like we have it now.
00:39:42
Okay, so Then why was your wife down on the field with you celebrating when you know that you've been around someone with Cove? It well, probably because they don't think that Justin Turner is gonna ignore security back onto the field, Mr Eso, But but still, though you were around me, you know you possibly have this.
00:40:00
But yet you still brought your kids and your wife down to the field to be around you.
00:40:05
When you just told me that you would isolate yourself.
00:40:08
So is this.
00:40:09
And I didn't say that I would have brought my wife and kids down and don't get me.
00:40:12
But that's the thing to you have to look at Kobe situation.
00:40:16
There's something called on a B and C.
00:40:18
He was the A.
00:40:19
He has it be or the people that are around him and then the sea, or the people who around the people that had him right, be the beast, are probably going to turn into the A's and the seas that they brought around Arnell bees and probably gonna turn into the A before he even came out on the field.
00:40:32
Are we talking? Laugh.
00:40:33
Now listen, we're not allowed to talk math because I passed algebra in high school with, like, a 66.
00:40:39
So I'll never talk about math ever again.
00:40:41
Is that passing?, 65.
00:40:45
Okay, so that's my thing. Yes.
00:40:48
When it first came out, I was you.
00:40:50
I was sensitive.
00:40:51
I thought, Oh, my goodness, this is so irresponsible.
00:40:53
But at the same time, they already got it.
00:40:56
They're all making their own choices, right? They are a man.
00:41:00
It's also it to me.
00:41:01
It's also just bad optics, too, because now he's on the field, which he shouldn't be.
00:41:05
And then he's ripping off his mask, sitting next, everybody And like you said, you know, maybe the people already got anything like that.
00:41:11
But just the optics in the back of your head.
00:41:14
Don't you think Him He should have been at least smarter about that.
00:41:18
As far as what? Taking us mask off for the pictures.
00:41:20
He I'll be honest with you.
00:41:21
All I seen was him.
00:41:22
Pull the mask off for the picture, and I don't know what he did after that.
00:41:25
I didn't see on that.
00:41:26
He just he just took it off, was done with it? Yes, me, I would have kept my mask on now for the picture.
00:41:34
I probably would have taken it off because the new co vid C d Whatever all this stuff says you have to be within 6 ft of each other for more than 15 minutes to have a chance to catch it.
00:41:43
Which I think it's dumb.
00:41:44
So him taking off his mask for a picture would have been fine.
00:41:47
Now what he did after, he should have put his mask back on.
00:41:50
I put it to you this way.
00:41:51
I work in retail.
00:41:52
There was a girl that I said in the office and at my line of work, and she actually had covert.
00:41:58
Did not know this.
00:41:59
I told her.
00:42:00
I said, I think you may get this tested because you sound awful.
00:42:02
She's like, Oh, no, it's just Sinuses.
00:42:04
Next day she went, got tested. She had Koven.
00:42:06
I told them I said, Oh, I'm sorry.
00:42:10
I'm sorry.
00:42:12
I'm sorry.
00:42:13
I'm sweating here.
00:42:14
This banter has got me sweating.
00:42:15
What town do I have? Oh, it's the terrible town.
00:42:19
That is terrible.
00:42:20
You're god**** right it is.
00:42:21
Uh, but anyways, back to my point, Alex and I know you're a Dodgers fan, so you'll probably not agree with me.
00:42:28
Guess your l A.
00:42:29
But anyways, my thing is, if he goes out onto the field and he, where's his mask was would have been Okay, then I think I think the optics of the situation look better.
00:42:42
I still don't like.
00:42:43
Listen, this is this is also my point to exactly what he's saying right here.
00:42:49
I don't Onley put this on Justin Turner.
00:42:52
You get off that field you've got He's not a people.
00:42:57
No, but that's the thing.
00:42:59
I don't only put it on Justin Turner.
00:43:02
I think the MLB handled this awful.
00:43:05
Oh, you have? You agree? You haven't agreed upon thing that if you have it, you're off the field, your quarantine, whatever.
00:43:12
Blah, blah, blah.
00:43:14
He, uh, he refused MLB security.
00:43:18
What the hell does that even mean? If listen, if my dumb self runs onto the field, I'm getting tackled by ex police officers.
00:43:26
Everything like that, you know, getting carried away in handcuffs and you're telling May Redhead Justin Turner is too much for the for the security to deal with.
00:43:35
Really? You can't.
00:43:36
You can't tell me that he all of a sudden turned into the Hulk and and walked past security.
00:43:42
If I would say I would bet, he said.
00:43:44
If anything, that's what played out.
00:43:46
I bet you he said, You're not going to stop me.
00:43:48
I will lawyer your butt up and let's go at this in a lawsuit because they cannot.
00:43:54
How is he going to do that? It's an agreed upon in the MLB and MLB P A.
00:43:59
If you have it, you have to do this.
00:44:01
It's not like And if you went into the season you agreed to those rules.
00:44:06
You basically signed a contract saying you would follow everything.
00:44:09
So what is he gonna dio su them and then say, Hey, by the way, I know I didn't follow it, but I'm still gonna get you.
00:44:15
Oh, I think you totally could have.
00:44:16
I really dio But here's my thing.
00:44:18
Is was it a rapid test, or was it the one that says, OK, you're positive now We need to do this other one and wait for it or which test wasn't see.
00:44:25
They don't say this.
00:44:26
See, that's the thing.
00:44:27
I don't know either, because I know that the original he got tested twice because the first test came back as inconclusive.
00:44:35
And then the second test came back positive, which was during the game.
00:44:38
And that's another situation.
00:44:40
How do you let somebody play a game with an inconclusive test like that doesn't make any sense to me.
00:44:48
I don't know if it's somewhere written in the rules that you have an inconclusive you can still play.
00:44:52
I don't get.
00:44:53
That is the dumbest thing ever and exactly what Alex says.
00:44:55
It.
00:44:56
It just makes the MLB look bad because you just had the Dodgers break a 32 year drought or whatever, and you should have everybody talking about this and don't get me wrong.
00:45:05
People are still talking about it because it's L.
00:45:07
A.
00:45:08
And it's winning the World Series.
00:45:09
But this is a story now to we shouldn't We shouldn't be talking about this, and I don't mean just as I mean the national meeting.
00:45:15
They shouldn't have to be talking about this.
00:45:17
They should be talking about good for the Dodgers.
00:45:19
Good for Clayton Kershaw.
00:45:20
But now Justin Turner does this, and it turns into a whole other situation.
00:45:26
30.
00:45:27
I know Alex.
00:45:28
It's almost as old as you Oh, hey.
00:45:31
Suddenly I'm older figures, but anyways, I just I feel I feel everyone hates Turner for his decision.
00:45:39
Personally.
00:45:40
What? I wondered what I would like to know, and this is what I really think happened.
00:45:43
I think the team somebody from his team, a veteran, a leader on that team went down there and said, Hey, come on out here and enjoy this with us.
00:45:51
Just keep yourself as contained as you can That's what I really think happened.
00:45:56
Inconclusive.
00:45:57
Yeah, it za weird situation because, you know, like I said, I have a hard time.
00:46:03
My thing is, um, or of the off the everybody else being on the field.
00:46:09
And like I said, I know that maybe Turner did spread.
00:46:12
But see, here's the other thing to the Dodgers got tested, and I know that they're waiting.
00:46:16
I haven't heard anything that any of the Dodger players have come back positive.
00:46:21
So now it's if it's just Turner now, that makes him look even worse.
00:46:26
I think if somebody else on the Dodgers has is well, in a weird, weird way, it takes something away from him because it's all listen.
00:46:34
He had it, I have it.
00:46:35
So basically we all got it anyway, so if he came back onto the field, it doesn't really matter.
00:46:39
But if it's just him, after all of these testing in my head, it makes him look even worse.
00:46:44
This looks so bad on the areas as way.
00:46:47
It's all been held out from one waiting for a result.
00:46:51
To come out 5th, 6th inning like that and pulling him to let me back out on the field and three just releasing his name and saying Why I guarantee.
00:46:59
And tomorrow or the next day, they'll say Turner came up negative today.
00:47:04
It was a false positive and everything will go clean just to push it under the rug or or Here's the other way.
00:47:12
Ah, lot of Dodgers will already had it.
00:47:14
Like you said, That would be the two cases.
00:47:15
It won't be.
00:47:16
It's just Josh.
00:47:17
It's gonna be he.
00:47:18
It was a false positive.
00:47:19
Everything's good.
00:47:21
The MLB held great standards that were supposed to.
00:47:24
We all went by procedures or it's all these Dodgers players had it and it came back then, like why didn't they just wait to release all that you know that.
00:47:34
Like, here's the other thing that I need the MLB to answer.
00:47:37
Me too.
00:47:38
He was supposed He's They had 52 days or whatever of nobody getting nobody testing positive.
00:47:45
How is everybody just going past the idea that he got in a bubble? How did how did he get it? Did he leave? Did he break protocol? Did somebody else get it? Like, how did he get it? That Zatz Another thing that I'm gonna need answers.
00:47:59
But I'm sure the MLB will give us some stupid answer like they like they usually do.
00:48:03
Because let me tell you something.
00:48:04
Out of all the, you know, major sports leagues, I think that they're the absolute worst at handling situations.
00:48:09
Yes, I would agree.
00:48:11
I think we need to move on that we will Dio.
00:48:16
We'll go into a quick, quick recap of the MLB season.
00:48:21
I don't wanna go too long here.
00:48:23
I'll start off with this.
00:48:24
Are you surprised that the season finished? No, but yes. No.
00:48:31
I think it would finish no matter what.
00:48:33
Because I had to call it quits. No matter right now.
00:48:36
I think the season would have ended in any way possible.
00:48:38
They would have had a playoff.
00:48:40
They would've had a World Series of some sort, even if it had been okay.
00:48:43
Something's going on these two of our best teams from where we are right now, let's have a Siri's.
00:48:48
Did it go good? The bubble, the way they did it, in the inner circles, divisions that they played, I don't think so.
00:48:55
Too many teams like even through the Cardinals.
00:48:59
I think they made the playoffs to, but yet they played like two games less than everyone else.
00:49:04
They didn't have to make up their games.
00:49:05
That was one thing.
00:49:06
Trevor Bauer actually said that I'm totally loving Trevor Bauer, not as a baseball player, which I do, but just everything about his personality and his opinions, that he was saying that how come they don't have to pitch or play their game like that's where entire, that they did not have to make That was unfair to the rest of the team.
00:49:23
Just because they got Cove, it really they got rewarded for getting Cove in for that situation, so I think just the whole nine yards of it, the whole 10 yards was horrible.
00:49:32
Managed on that.
00:49:33
And yes, I'm surprised that it we had a season lasts as long as we did.
00:49:38
I'll say that, but yeah, I would think no matter what, they would have had some kind of finale of a world. Siri's.
00:49:45
I'm glad it made it the whole way.
00:49:48
Yeah, I'm kind of I'm kind of like you.
00:49:50
I thought that they were gonna finish, I think.
00:49:53
And I obviously, you know, pray or whatever You wanna pray to that this doesn't happen.
00:49:58
I think that the only way a professional league Yeah, you know, Aaron, Judge, whatever.
00:50:05
Uh, I think the only way a professional sports league isn't going to go through the season if somebody dies, I really dio like because obviously, I don't think you can pick yourself up from that.
00:50:15
You can kind of brush off like, Oh, yeah.
00:50:17
This player has Cove, and he kind of has himself.
00:50:19
Don't think of it as bad as it sounds.
00:50:21
Oh, no, I definitely didn't.
00:50:23
But I'm saying, like if somebody get if a player gets covert and they and they have and they have, you know, issues going forward, you can kind of be like, Oh, yeah, That's Zo Thrill.
00:50:35
Johnson. You catch how bad that sounded.
00:50:37
Let me quote.
00:50:38
So you know that what you said if someone dies, they'll end the season because there's no way they could pick themselves up from that.
00:50:45
They I mean, the league, not the dead person.
00:50:48
Well, the way you said it, it sounded pretty bad.
00:50:50
Dude, God, somebody canceled.
00:50:54
But I think you know, you can kind of brush yourself off of somebody getting it.
00:50:58
But if somebody tragically did pass away from it and I'm gonna try toward this better if somebody passed away from it, then there's no way you could just move on from that situation like that's such a terrible tragedy for, you know, a team you know, the family, everybody to go through.
00:51:13
So I really think that's the literal on leeway that professional, uh, league doesn't continue.
00:51:18
But, you know, it got off to a rough start, to say the least with, you know, the Marlins.
00:51:23
I know the Reds went through some things that I know, you know, Yankees missed.
00:51:27
Have postponed the car.
00:51:30
Yeah, there was a bunch of teams that that it affected, but, you know, they did get through it.
00:51:34
And I'm Yeah, Philly.
00:51:35
And I'm happy that they did because, you know, like I said, you and more baseball is fine for me.
00:51:40
You know, you're not losing May I'll sit there and watch every game.
00:51:42
I know I basically did this season, but I am a little surprised of how because it kind of went smooth after, like that first, like, rocky month and a half, like after the Marlins situation and everything like that.
00:51:56
I feel like after that it went surprisingly smooth for for a league that wasn't in a bubble during the regular season.
00:52:03
Obviously, you know, we didn't get to see that before because the n b a.
00:52:07
The NHL were both in the bubbles, so they just have to finish off their seasons.
00:52:10
This was, you know, the startup getting through the season and the playoffs.
00:52:14
So I'm kind of surprised how smooth one after the whole Marlon situation.
00:52:18
But, you know, I'm happy for the MLB and, you know, hopefully things they're gonna get back to normal by next season.
00:52:23
You know, speaking of the bubble, how did you feel about it? Because I kind of liked it, you know, I know I've said this before, and I don't think too many people have agree with me if anybody.
00:52:33
So I'm fine with because I'll die on this hill.
00:52:35
I think it's hard work yourself back up from after that to just e think the world Siri's being treated like a Super Bowl event would be great for baseball.
00:52:47
I know it's a lot harder to do than the Super Bowl, because that's a one night thing.
00:52:51
You fly in, you can fly out the next day if you really want to, and this is potentially a seven game thing.
00:52:56
But if you can, you know, set up a place that's sustainable.
00:53:01
You know, for a week, week and a half of the World Series being played and, you know, turned into a big thing.
00:53:06
You know? You know, they went down to Texas.
00:53:09
You know, obviously you're gonna have to put it in a place that's warm weather or a dome because nobody's coming to New York or Boston or Chicago during October for a week when it's, you know, 20 degrees outside to watch baseball.
00:53:24
But I think the bubble worked really, really well.
00:53:26
Obviously, we didn't have any problems with it until this Justin Turner thing.
00:53:29
But I was kind of surprised at how smooth it when I thought that, you know, maybe players would have put up more of a fight of not wanting to go in because I know originally they didn't really want Thio.
00:53:37
But how did you feel about the bubble in total? I do like it.
00:53:41
I thought it was very interesting.
00:53:42
I did like it.
00:53:43
I guess I should say just the Central NL Central, where I'm at how we got to play.
00:53:48
All of you know, Central quite a bit.
00:53:50
I think 40 games with them, Then we play the A L Central for 20 games.
00:53:53
I thought that was really interesting and a lot of fun.
00:53:56
You know, you got to see the same players was quite a bit.
00:53:58
It was entertaining for that perspective.
00:54:00
Now, this is what I would like to see for next year.
00:54:03
Maybe cut the games down just a little bit if you can't do the whole 162 games but do three many seasons and do a central central and then do like a central west for a little bit and do like a central east, you know, of course, you have to divide it every which way to do it.
00:54:21
But you could make it work.
00:54:22
You just and then you could do like you start with your central Central play for I don't know, 20 games will say, and then you take a two week lay over where if anyone has co vid that that's had its time, run its course, then you fly to your new bubble and you play your teams over there.
00:54:38
I don't know how you would how's it? But then through 20 games there, two week hiatus, then you go over to the East Coast 20 games there, and then you say, Okay, now let's go for a World Series.
00:54:49
I think that would be interesting That way.
00:54:52
Everyone plays everyone.
00:54:54
It would probably take the whole season as we are, and that was 60 games I just made up right there, which is what we play this year.
00:55:00
It sprays it over a longer time.
00:55:02
You actually get your teams playing your other favorite teams that you don't get to see so much.
00:55:05
You get to see these still with these great players come into your home field where you could.
00:55:10
Well, I guess you wouldn't be going to the games one of their likely, but at least you see them in your ballpark on TV.
00:55:15
That way everyone plays everyone.
00:55:18
Now.
00:55:19
X games may not be completely the same amount, but at least it's more leveled all the way across.
00:55:24
Now, how can you say anything bad about that plan? Yeah, the only problem I don't have.
00:55:30
No, no, I don't have a problem with it.
00:55:32
I think it's honestly not a bad idea, but I just know from what the n.
00:55:37
Ba said, that setting up a bubble is very, very expensive.
00:55:41
I know that.
00:55:42
I can't remember how much you know, million.
00:55:44
Or maybe even into a billion.
00:55:46
I don't think it went that far.
00:55:48
Um, setting up, uh, setting.
00:55:51
Setting up? Yeah, setting up Disney was for the MBA bubble, so I don't know how much money it would actually cost to set up three different bubbles like you're saying so.
00:56:01
I don't know how that would work, but I don't really.
00:56:04
I don't hate this situation off.
00:56:06
Listen, you'll play.
00:56:07
These people will take, you know, you could even overlap it.
00:56:10
So there's no, you know, pausing baseball, you could overlap it as listen, you're gonna play during this time.
00:56:16
And then while you guys were having your two weeks off, these people are gonna be playing their last two weeks.
00:56:23
And then by the time they're done with their two weeks, you're all the way back and, you know, schedule.
00:56:27
That's type of way.
00:56:28
But honestly, it's not a terrible, terrible idea, Michael.
00:56:32
It's a you know what? You finally did something right? Yeah.
00:56:35
Now let's move on to our final big topic of the day.
00:56:43
Free agency? I don't know.
00:56:47
I have, you know, one topic to discuss.
00:56:50
And then maybe, you know, just one question.
00:56:52
As apparently, you're jamming out.
00:56:54
I must not be hearing the music but music in my head all the time.
00:56:57
And what do you expect from free agency this year? Because I honestly think that this might be one of the worst free agencies for a player.
00:57:06
Uh, teams just came off losing a lot of money.
00:57:09
I know that the Yankees said that they probably lost the most money out of every any team.
00:57:13
And but I just think you're not going to see, I think those top players, they're gonna get paid.
00:57:19
I think you know, Bauer is gonna get paid. Reum.
00:57:22
Utah was going to get paid.
00:57:23
You know, people of that nature.
00:57:24
But you already saw it with the cardinals.
00:57:26
Kolten Wong got his, uh, team option denied.
00:57:30
So he's, you know, free agent.
00:57:31
Now, I think the middle middle class, if you want to say or whatever middle tier over Yeah, middle tier and lower tier players are struggling in A In a market like this, I think that you're going to see deals that you would have thought are for this many million being, you know, 10 5, whatever less than originally is gonna be just because teams lost so much money.
00:57:56
And the interesting thing is, I'm gonna get into this as my we're gonna do a little rant segment at the end of each episode, and I'm gonna get I'm gonna do mine on this situation.
00:58:07
But the only team that might not be affected of this and it's it's funny because living in New York, they've been our laughing stock.
00:58:16
If the sale to the Mets of Cohen goes through there might be the only team that is not affected, because, listen, he didn't lose any money during this.
00:58:24
He didn't know the team s Oh, he's coming in.
00:58:27
He's coming in.
00:58:28
Brand new pockets.
00:58:29
$14 billion in him, no salary cap.
00:58:32
So, listen, the Mets might, you know, go out and make their payroll 300 million someday.
00:58:36
But how do you How do you What do you think free agency is gonna look at like this year First, before you start talking, I thought it would actually be kind of crazy.
00:58:43
Who would go where? You know, it's just it's all up in the air because you only got to stay in your quarter and it was hard for everyone else to really probably do a lot of scouting because one of you probably can't see your scout certain teams to be like, Okay, these guys will be free agents.
00:58:55
So let's kind of see him first hand and see his mechanism mechanistic mechanics and see how things were going there.
00:59:04
But I don't know that you said that.
00:59:07
I mean, that was a really good point.
00:59:08
Just like what you said is, I'm brilliant, you know, even a blind squirrel confined a nut that falls from a tree every once in a law.
00:59:15
I mean, clock is right twice a day, and I like that. That's right.
00:59:19
That's right.
00:59:20
But so, yeah, I definitely think it won't work out that way.
00:59:23
I think really your to tear or three tier players.
00:59:27
You're just gonna have to take whatever first option comes because you can't Really? I don't want to stay that way.
00:59:33
You can't You The ball is not gonna be in their court to be ableto bark whatever they want to on this, because you can't really go to say okay.
00:59:41
The Cincinnati Reds, They offered me the bare minimum because I played there.
00:59:44
I didn't really have a good year.
00:59:45
It's Look over here.
00:59:46
I blame it all on that.
00:59:48
Let me go see what free agency is gonna do.
00:59:50
The White Sox I know love to me, and they'll probably double what they were offering me.
00:59:54
You can't take that risk because they're gonna be like, Listen, man, you know, sadly, this is gonna be the arguments.
00:59:59
Hey, you **** Cove.
01:00:00
It last year and we see Cam Newton not producing very well after Cove in.
01:00:05
We see certain players.
01:00:06
I can't remember the other defense of player that had it.
01:00:08
That has. Maybe it's Gilmore.
01:00:10
Just hey, did have it at one point.
01:00:13
Yeah, well, I mean, here's the other thing, too.
01:00:14
You could just look at the red.
01:00:16
I can't remember his name at the moment.
01:00:18
He's a picture for the Eduardo.
01:00:22
Water is something.
01:00:23
He's a pitcher for the Red Sox.
01:00:24
He has frozen.
01:00:27
Oh, I think it's you, Michael at the moment.
01:00:30
But I'll continue on here.
01:00:32
I I don't know the Red Sox pitcher.
01:00:34
Exactly.
01:00:35
I think his name is Eduardo something, but he got co vid and he's still having heart problems from the situation.
01:00:42
So I don't know how you know that's gonna affect free agency, because maybe you know, Then I'll be able start looking at a team or players that had cove it.
01:00:51
And now they're not going thio, you know, Want to sign them? Listen, I don't know what is going on with Michael here right now, though.
01:00:58
A little a little frozen on my end, so I don't know if it's me or him, but I'm gonna say it's him because I don't see him moving, so we'll go with that.
01:01:07
I'll add him back to the stream, you know, once once he's back and better than ever.
01:01:11
But I'll move it on here anyway, because we were gonna go onto the next topic and that was going to be.
01:01:19
If you could sign one free agent for free, who would it be? And my answer is very, very simple, and it's going to sound pretty weird because he already it was a Yankee.
01:01:31
But like I said before, if D. J.
01:01:35
LeMay, who doesn't get resigned by the Yankees, I think that they've messed up in more ways than one.
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I think Yankee fans are gonna go absolutely crazy.
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I I don't know how much D J is gonna command on the market because, like, we were just saying the market might be a little messed up this year with the covert situations and things like that.
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But he's a player that he's a player that the Yankees need.
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We don't really have that many needs.
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We kind of figure out the starting pitcher were Colin Severina is gonna come back next season.
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We got David Garcia now.
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Judges locked in stands locked in Sanchez.
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I don't know what they're gonna end up doing with him after this season that he had this year.
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But LeMay who is? Yeah, basically the leader of that team he, you know, is your leadoff guy.
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He can hit the ball anyway, that he wants to.
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He's been very, very good since coming to the Yankees.
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And that was the thing that a lot of people were scared off.
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Was him coming over from Colorado, which was Oh, gosh, is he actually gonna be, you know, as good as he was there because the air is thin.
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And this, that and the third.
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But D.
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J.
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Has been a godsend for the Yankees at the moment, and I think that that has to be priority number one.
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I know there's different positions that they're kind of looking at because, like I said, uh, Gary didn't play very well this year, so I don't know if they're gonna wanna, you know, dive into the catching market.
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Um, I know that Brett Gardner is a free agent, but I think Clinton is gonna end up replacing him anyway, So I don't really think that that's gonna matter too.
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much as well, but these am a you, to me has to be your number one offseason priority.
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He's been, you know, absolutely unbelievable.
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Like I said, I think I believe he did win the batting title this year as well.
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So he he's doing absolutely amazing, as Michael just texted me that he got booted.
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Oh, no.
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Maybe we'll end up getting Michael back on here before before I end everything up.
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So I think he lost Internet.
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He said, It's storm and pretty bad, but that was probably going to the end of those segments.
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Anyway, I'll get I'm sure we'll hear from Michael on the next episode, But before we do wrap it up, we're gonna try toe, You know, I don't know what we're gonna call this exactly yet, but we're gonna try to do basically like a rant segment at the end of each show.
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Me and Michael are gonna go back and forth with it, and I'm gonna obviously, as Michael's I hear anyway, take the take.
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The lead for this one on my rent for this week is going to be which is going to sound very weird.
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But for the mayor of New York.
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Bill de Blasio, Um, the Mets, you know, sold the mats to Steve Cohen and the way that the contract is set up with Citi Field and and the land that City of Field is built on.
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Is that Bill de Blasio, I guess.
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Who was the mayor of New York? Like I said, Ken veto the deal or whatever he wants to do with it, and I just don't understand why you would want to do that.
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The Wilpons has done absolutely nothing for the message done absolutely nothing for the area surrounding Citi Field in Queens.
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What is the point of of not one and coming to come in and build the Mets up into something that they actually could be? Like? We said before, Steve Cohen is coming in to our covert written league.
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Got all these teams, just lost money and and he's gonna come in with 16 14 whatever billion dollars in his in his pocket.
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And I don't know what the problem would be with him coming in and making the Mets into ah competent franchise.
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Listen, I live in New York.
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They're the butt of every joke.
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Whenever something goes wrong, you say? Oh, it's kind of like the Mets, and that's what bad teams being in New York, the Giants, the Jets, everything the Mets during baseball season is just an absolute laughingstock all the time.
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And now you have somebody coming in who's gonna pour money into the Mets.
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He's gonna maybe pour money, hopefully into the area surrounding Citi Field being Queens, and he's gonna try to actually make them into a competitive franchise.
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And now you might veto the deal and listen.
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I don't think it's gonna happen anyway, because I guess the Mets of lawyers looked into the deal when the sale was going to go through that there's no way he could actually do it, because I think the only way he can veto it is if he was, like, convicted of a felony or convicted of a crime like that.
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And to my knowledge, Steve Cohen hasn't been so.
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I don't think it's gonna happen anyway, but I just don't understand what the point of trying to put up a road block in front of Cohen is. Anyway.
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Like I said, the Mets have been absolutely nothing since that World Series.
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On in I believe it was 2015 and they haven't done anything since then, barely making the playoffs or, you know, being good and then struggling.
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And, you know, they finally got Pete Alonso, who, even though he struggled this year.
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So I just don't understand the point of putting up another roadblock in front of the mess to make the sale of Steve Cohen.
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Let come and take over, let him poor his money into the Mets and make them a competent franchise.
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And, I mean, maybe it's the Maybe he wants a Rod Thio get the Mets because I know a Rod and J.
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Lo said that he would take the payroll up to, like, 250 million, and he was gonna, you know, pour money into into the queen's area around surrounding Citi Field.
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I don't believe Steve Cohen has made those promises yet, so maybe in the back of de Blasio's mind, he's saying, Oh, what A Rod's gonna do this for our city.
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But listen, he has $14 billion.
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I'm sure that he's gonna invest into the match in the area around it.
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Why, if he has this much money, you can't take it to the grave, so I assume that he's gonna pour money into it.
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But that's just my rent of this week.
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Michael.
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How are you feeling? How we doing today On this fine evening? I am doing wonderful.
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The Children are in bed.
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The wife is in the next door room watching them while she reads her book.
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Because who likes to read? I don't know.
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Only women do.
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But I'm been excited about this.
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Re amp.
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I have been so nervous and excited at the same time.
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So let's get this show going.
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Let's have this popping of a show.
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Yes, sir.
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You know, me and Michael are kind of taking over the revamp to backstop banter.
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And you know, Jessie has things going on.
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Alex is a is a busy person, so I was kind of we're kind of taking it over as our as our baby.
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They're kind of almost handing it over to us.
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So me and Michael, we're gonna, you know, try our best to keep it.
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You know where they wanted to be.
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Well, try. We're gonna make you guys proud.
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Don't you worry.
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That's right. That's right.
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We're taking over where? Like the n w O of W C W.
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We're taking over the whole set, and it is ours.
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Of course, we're gonna keep everything the same, but we're just gonna kick it.
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Awesome.
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Josh, Josh, come on.
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You don't even you don't even watch baseball.
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You're killing me here, guy.
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I'm not surprised you even know who the Dodgers are.
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But, Michael Thank you, Josh, for being our very first comment ever on this show.
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Yeah, well, listen, I'm allowed to say that because Josh is my co host over on this boy's big baseball guy.
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But, Michael, you know what I'm about to say.
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But Michael, let's get into the baseball talk cause that's what we are here for.
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The Dodgers are your world, Siri's champions and well, before we get into the whole, you know, bubble Season 60 game thing.
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I want to start with this because it's something that you know.
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I don't know really how I felt about it coming into the season.
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And, you know, it's always in the back your mind, because people will never let you forget about it.
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But in your opinion, does this take the ****** off of Kershaw's back? If not, you know, being clutched in the playoffs? He was.
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He was pretty good in the playoffs this season.
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He won both of his starts in the world.
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Siri's. I believe you have, like a to e. R A.
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In those games.
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So what do you just initial thoughts on If you got that ****** off his back, I think.
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Yes, I think it does get this ****** off of his back.
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But here's the thing Next season, if they go back to the Super Bowl when he happens again, I think the ****** is right there.
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I'm sorry.
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Sorry, e.
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I was on the NFL show yesterday.
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My mind was there.
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Sorry. Yes, the world.
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Siri's.
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I need to change these guys out.
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I've got my football stuff still Kentucky.
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I need to get my bobble heads out for this show.
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But to the world, Siri's again, then? Yes.
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I mean, if he has another tank like he has in the past.
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And I think the ****** pops right back out of the hat there.
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But as a right now, at this moment, no, I think it does erase the memories of the past for a lot of fans and a lot of players and even holders on that.
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It's just it basically is a fresh start for him now.
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Basically, I've done it.
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I've overcame I've conquered.
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Let's move on.
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So, yes, I think it actually get the ****** off of his back.
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What about you? Yeah, I agree with it because you know, being a Yankee fan.
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I look at it this way.
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I remember, you know, the playoff series with a Rod where he was always great during the regular season.
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And then he began to the playoffs.
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And, man, it was not very fun to watch sometimes.
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So it kind of reminds me of that because that 2009 World Series that the Yankees won their last one, that they've won.
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Sadly, as I cry it here, Um, he basically carried that team.
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I don't know if people forget how good he was in that 2009 playoffs, but he was absolutely unbelievable.
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I remember the, uh, walk off against the twin or not the walk off.
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He tied it up in the bottom of the ninth inning against the Twins.
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You know, he was just unbelievable in that postseason.
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He kind of really carrying the Yankees.
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And that's kind of what I look at for Kershaw, because maybe he didn't carry them because, you know, Jack Peterson still won the World Series M v p.
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But he did very good.
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He did what he what we've always kind of wanted him to do in the playoffs.
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he was because, you know, I feel like everybody looked at it.
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He was, you know, Kershaw in the regular season.
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And then as he got into the playoffs, he turned into a completely different type of pitcher.
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And he didn't do that. This year.
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He was steady.
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I know that.
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Me and Caleb definitely didn't think he would do that.
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As we were making a little side bets with Alex and Perry.
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About how much? You know, Kershaw was gonna was gonna blow up because we kind of just expected that.
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But he finally didn't.
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And he I think, in my opinion, he got the ****** off his back.
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Because now listen for all the things ideas 32 time Cy Young Award winner.
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He wanted M v p.
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He did all these things.
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But the thing that we're always gonna look at now is the first thing.
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Hey, Kershaw, world Siri's, That's what's gonna come to your head now.
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Even you know more than the things he did.
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And I was scared for him because I thought that with all those accomplishments, the first thing that you mentioned when you thought about Kershaw was gonna be the playoff stakes.
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But now listen.
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He has that world Siri's, so he could tell everybody toe, you know, go do something else because he finally finally did it.
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Yes, and kudos to him for that.
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And kudos to all the Dodger fans in our unwrapped sports network.
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Periods of Big advocate forum, even cheese wise cheese Trying to think, of course.
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Whom there it is. Yes.
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So, yes, I'm happy for them.
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But what's more amazing with this with the Dodgers, is Magic Johnson.
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Have you? Did you know he's one with the Dodgers? He's one with the Lakers.
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He's one with the Sparks as well, the W N B 18.
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And I believe that's it.
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Which that's a three e think he has, like, What do you have like over 10 championships as a player known? Er, that's pretty amazing right there.
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Kudos to him and he beat AIDS.
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E O man, that z fantastic! Too much.
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No, no, I just Honestly, that that might be one of the best things I've heard all day.
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Monique, take that.
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And that will be our, uh, one minute introduction.
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That's next.
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That's what I want our ad Thio.
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Good job.
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We will head on over to the other side of the ball.
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When it comes to Game six.
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I know Kirk started pitching. Game six bestow.
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Um, Blakes.
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Now it's Listen, it's the decision that I feel like everybody is gonna be talking about until at least next year, you're gonna have the pro baseball people versus the ****ytics people.
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And I mean, listen, just being here in New York, listening to all the talk shows were not even obviously.
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We're all Yankee met fans here, and people still can't stop talking about it.
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I want because I know how I feel about it.
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I might get a little more heated than you will, so I'm gonna let you go first.
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What do you think about the decision to take out snow? And, you know, I guess you know, if you want to, you can dive into the the ****ytic side of things.
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I'll try not to stay out a little bit because, you know, we have talked a little bit, and I think this will be your time for your segment, if you will in a second.
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But it's very this letting heart.
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I mean, my I'm trying to think of the right word I want to use for this.
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I mean, I was so let down in this situation for snail because, I mean, he had nine K's in, like, five innings pitched.
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Only had, like, 75 pitches.
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Count on to this point and they pull him because ****ytical says, Hey, this is the time for pulling.
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The dude was going, man.
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I mean, he was dealing case like crazy.
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And to think that they go This is the world Siri's.
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This is our final game.
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If we lose, you know, this is the right time that we're supposed to pull you. I'm sorry.
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There's times when you got to go with your gut and got to go with your heart on players.
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I mean, that's why you see all these times that they're like, Okay, well, hold up.
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So once I was going into bat right here because I'm feeling it.
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He's ready for it.
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This is his moment.
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And you got to go with that.
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So I mean, I feel like the Rays really messed up by taking him out there.
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That is my point of view on that.
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I, like ****ytical is don't get me wrong I love the numbers, and I think it is a big part of baseball now.
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But I don't know why players don't use the the reverse of this.
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And I will say this a little bit like there's so many times for Cincinnati Reds fan that the defense shifted so bad against the Reds players.
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We've got quite a few left handed hitters, so the shift was on and sometimes in the right, righties were up.
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They shift the other way.
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Why not just lay a button down or just little slap it down the third base line? At least get yourself on base? And they I've heard people say that That's not the way the ****ytics goes because you're just basically giving her bad up.
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But at the same time, you're making the picture pitch to another person and me.
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I always feel like the more pitches on that picture, the quicker he's gonna be out of the game.
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So if I take a couple pitches, knock it down third base line, getting the first.
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Now he's got to pitch to the other guy.
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If he makes an air, it's a two run lead, so I mean, that's just how I feel on it.
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Yeah, you could do this all ****ytics you want.
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But then you just gotta have someone that's gonna be bold and step up and reverse what they're doing, and then they will exceed because they're the only ones out there as well.
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So that's my opinion.
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And I'll let you go ahead now.
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Yeah, it just it blows my mind.
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I mean, being, you know, younger than you know, I'll say than you.
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And just even just a few years.
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Yeah, just only a year or two, right? E.
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But But even being younger, it's just it's just such an annoying thing.
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And you know, I love baseball is a sport that I grew up with.
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You know, I played even though I was absolutely terrible And, you know, my brothers played so I grew up around it.
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I I watched, you know, every Yankee game that I could be in a Yankees fan and it ****ytics are just They're ruining it for me.
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I don't care what anybody says you, but that's the thing to you're not gonna lose May.
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You're not gonna lose.
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May I? Listen, You can sit down.
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You can send me in front of a Yankee game and I watch it all day.
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Mind numbingly stupid like I am.
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But you take our Blakes now who like you said five and five and two thirds innings hasn't the nine K's.
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The Dodgers can't touch him the next three.
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Do you know what the You know what the at bats were for the next three people he was going to face in that inning? I don't They were over six with, I believe at least five strikeouts of the next three people he was gonna pitch.
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And don't get me wrong. I know it's Mookie.
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I know it's the top of the order, so there was definitely where your players are.
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I don't care.
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I don't care because, you know, and listening to the Michael Kay Show today, which is the Yankee announced.
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You has a radio show here in New York as well, and you know, he says it best.
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Hey, interviewed Joe Torry one time, and to me, Joe Torry really says what it is.
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You know, ****ytics would have told him to take out David Cohen in certain situations, or ****ytics would have told him to take out David Wells in certain situations, But there's something that ****ytics won't tell you, and this is what Joe Torre said, he said ****ytics won't tell you that David Kona is willing to kill somebody to get the next better batter out.
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And maybe that person that you're bringing in from the bullpen, It's just I think I could get this guy out while David Cone is out there.
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No, I'm gonna give my full entire energy, and I just don't understand it like it's the same thing.
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I see it all the time.
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It's, you know, Luke Voyeur or whoever you want to name your favorite player, you can think about them is three for 32 home runs.
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Six R b I's in the game before, but ****ytics say that he has to sit the next game because that that's gonna make them healthier for the long run.
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There's just certain times where you have to throw numbers out, and I just don't understand what it is because now the Rays now the rays look dumb and listen, don't get me wrong.
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I know that ****ytics is what got them to the World Series is what got in the Game six.
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But here's my problem with ****ytics.
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Another thing.
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Even the ****ytic nerds who sit there on their iPads and and they're a little bow ties have all agreed that over the course of a season, absolutely use ****ytics.
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But in the postseason, it's up.
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It's up in the air if they're actually gonna work.
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So you're going to sit here and tell me that I can't manage my way, because the numbers say something different.
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But even you can agree.
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The ****ytic person can agree that in a short series like that, numbers may may not work because these numbers are built for 1 62.
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They're not built for a five game Siri's where this or that can happen.
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So it just it blows my mind because that and the other thing about the raise to is here's why you're so deep into the numbers.
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You care about the numbers so much.
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But why don't you look at the numbers that Mookie bats like 200 against left handed pitchers? Which is what Snell is? Or that the person you were bringing in was absolutely terrible in the postseason because he was so tired even after the game.
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I I can't remember who they brought in.
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It's escaping my mind at the moment after snow, but he even said after the after the game, Oh, yeah, the balls is not coming out of my hand The same because I've been tired.
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So you're gonna take out your best pitcher Kevin Carey.
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Meyer said that he that was the best he's ever seen.
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Snow pitch.
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He won a Cy Young won a Cy Young two years ago, and now you have somebody saying it's the best he's ever seen a pitch and you still take him out because you're the person in I 05 with your bow tie on said, Listen, the numbers here don't don't say that.
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You should leave him in.
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It boggles my mind.
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It annoys me.
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It kills it.
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Like you said, the shifts annoying me.
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I don't know how you change it because it's not like Rob Manfred and say, Listen, you can't you can't hire smart people, so I don't know how they're gonna fix it, but like I said, you're not losing me.
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But let me tell you something.
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The people, my age of people, you are gonna be the people that are gonna be watching your game for the next 60 years.
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You're losing them.
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So it's not my problem.
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It's it's gonna be baseballs.
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And I would love to see how they how they try to do something like that.
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I mean, if you really think about it, you might as well put robots out there like everyone's a big computer and goes out there and calculates doo doo doo doo doo doo doo.
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OK, snail is going to throw a curveball here at this part.
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More than likely, I'm swinging their robot swings.
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The pitch goes wherever I'm.
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That's basically what you're playing now.
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There's no heart.
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You cannot calculate heart and effort into the computer.
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So it's basically your managers to what stops.
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Tell me this, Michael, if you and if you have And if I sound like an idiot, please tell me what What stops me and you from being a manager in today's MLB? Nothing, because all you have to do is no the ****ytics.
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I mean, I need to get someone from yell to say, Okay, you've run the numbers.
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Now, come here, whisper in my ear and let me know what I need to do because you give me my spreadsheet.
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Okay? In this situation, the best thing that should happen is this.
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Okay, this is what we're gonna do.
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Guys, this is this and go.
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So, yeah, I mean, I agree with you like you have somebody coming down with the lineup card saying this is gonna be the best.
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This is the best lineup that you could put out today.
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You have somebody telling you, you know, when you should take out a picture because God for video, anybody in the world see somebody third time through the order? Listen, let me tell you something.
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I know the Yankees are in ****ytics, but if we just paid Garrett called 333 $150 million whatever the hell he got toe only pitched two times through the order.
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Listen, your you lost me there.
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You know, lost.
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May what I think is kind of funny and interesting to see breaking news today.
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I'm sure you guys seen it.
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Is Tony LaRussa just got hired for the White Sox.
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I don't know if that was in here to talk about it, so I'm sorry.
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He said he he's 72 year old man.
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I don't think he's going to buy into the ****ytics.
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That's just me.
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Personally.
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He's I mean, I'm 30 four.
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I heard that that ruffles feathers in the in the Chicago front office.
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Oh, I'm sure because it's these young, no offensive, you young generation that only goes by these numbers and don't take in the heart and effort from this.
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So I think it's gonna be interesting to see how the White Sox do.
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I think they're a decent team, actually, no.
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Yeah, absolutely made the playoffs this year.
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I think that they were a year ahead on what a lot of people thought they were gonna be.
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And I'm telling you right now, he's not coming in there.
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And, you know, I was watching once again Michael Kay show today, but and he said, You know, he buys into the numbers, don't get don't get me wrong but he's not going to sit there and be like, you know, Kevin Cash of the Rays, who is strictly based in the numbers, and this is also and I don't know how you feel about it.
00:18:03
Once again, I have a hard time is saying a manager is bad.
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Now, how are you going to stay here and tell me that somebody is a bad manager or somebody is a great manager? You know, we hear these things all the time.
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How? Why? Why are they better? Because their numbers worked more like E.
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Because I don't really know what manager maybe Joe Maddon does it.
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Or or Or somebody you know, Maura old school does it more than you know, the new school manager.
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Like an Aaron Boone.
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Like a Kevin Cash? Um a J.
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Hinch, believe it or not, from, you know, the cheating Astros I also heard might be eyes like the front runner for a head coaching.
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Uh, Joe, I can't remember where it was now, but I saw it today before we came on that a J.
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Hinch might might be is it wasn't the twins. Did.
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They fired their manager? I don't think so.
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Because didn't they make the playoffs too? Yeah, but I know they got they went in the first round because they haven't I don't know.
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I don't know where it is, but I know that a. J. Hinch a.
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J.
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Hinch choose another person that buys into the numbers is, is a leading candidate for for, Ah, job somewhere.
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So you know the numbers aren't going anywhere.
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Don't get me wrong unless, you know, here's my thing because every league is a copycat league, everybody knows that.
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The only way I think the numbers are ever going to go anywhere is if, you know, maybe he comes into the White Sox and he says, You know, it's screw this, I'm not.
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You could take your numbers and go do whatever you want with them.
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I'm managing the way that I've always managed and they win a world serious somehow without the numbers.
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I think that's the only way because other people will say, Oh, look, maybe maybe that's the way we should be going instead of you know, Billy Billy from, you know, Section A said that we have to hit a home run in our first that battle.
00:19:48
We lose 82% of the time.
00:19:50
Well, that's like honestly, watching the Reds this year was such a rollercoaster.
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We started out hot, won a few games **** Covad for 15,000 times and then had 10 people in and out of the lineup.
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but no matter what, they went by the numbers.
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And Jesse and I've said on so many different shows.
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The Reds air good until about the seventh inning and then we suck because we put in relievers.
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Well, you would think after a while if we could notice this with our own fan eyes that seventh inning and on is looking ridiculous.
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Maybe they should check the numbers there and see what's going on with that.
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Not only that, the Reds never attempted a bunt this season.
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Not one time did we attempted because the numbers say that gives an out and while wasting out and also we never did like a sacrifice A bull? Uh, well, in in ground.
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We did not actually mean to have that called a slap bond, if you will, on that just thio.
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So we swung, swung swang, swang swang, Frozen interest, Yes, but we are batting average was like 2 23 for the season, But yet we were third in home runs for the year.
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So it was either hit a long ball or strike out and it was pathetic and then not me personally going by the numbers and not playing small ball.
00:21:08
Not playing baseball in a my game instead of a computer game cost us a Siri's where we couldn't even do anything because we hit Atlanta good.
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We just didn't hit home runs we had.
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I think one game we had 10 base runners or batters on base that we could not bring in because we did not bunt.
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We didn't know how to bunt. We actually tried.
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I think it was Tucker.
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Barnhart, who is a catcher, tried to lay down a bunt once, and it looked.
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He almost struck out. Doing it.
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They decided, said, You know what? Let's go back to the numbers, let him swing and he struck out. So we left.
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So many batters are runners on base that it was ridiculous.
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So small ball is the thing, guys, you've got to be able.
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I think the numbers were good, but I think you gotta mention together somehow.
00:21:50
Yeah, you know, And speaking of numbers, I saw something today.
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Actually, that well, I believe Tony Lewis, his first head coaching job or whatever manager job, whatever you want to say for baseball was 41 years ago and there's been MAWR home runs hit.
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It's in those 41 years, then from the beginning of baseball, till when he started.
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Like just in those 41 years, there's been more home runs.
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So obviously we saw what the numbers are doing in home runs our crazy.
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You're either striking out walking or hitting a home run now.
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I mean, people like D.
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J.
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LeMay who who? Listen, I know we're getting to free agency later, but the Yankees, I might I might burn down the stadium if if if they don't resign him somehow.
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But people like him don't even exist anymore.
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You know, you could go opposite field, you know, do whatever they want.
00:22:43
So numbers are absolutely crazy.
00:22:45
But we've spent our time how we feel that the numbers, I think are are very apparent at the moment.
00:22:51
I know that we're also going to disagree on this next point, but I'll let you go first.
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Does this Dodgers world Siri's have an Asterix to you? You know, we're going to defer.
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I know we are.
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Hmm.
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Well, I think it does not have a nasty Okay, now, I changed my mind.
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We're not, but I will say it has to be member ID remembered.
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Just attacked.
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Well, as I even say that, Yeah, I think it needs an ass trick bite.
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And it's not that we're gonna disagree, Aziz, I'm sitting here talking about Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from it, but yes, I'm not saying that a strict.
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So it is saying, Oh, it shouldn't candidate, but at least a note to save.
00:23:32
Check the bottom.
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Okay, This was a shortened season, and so many go over different things going on.
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I even heard arguments that the Dodgers faces, like the easiest path to get to the world.
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Siri's now, to me, that is not a question that should never been argued because it doesn't matter.
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Whoever is there is who you face.
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That's just your road.
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Don't penalize the best team in baseball for an easier road when they became the best team in baseball to get there.
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So my my opinion on that if you're a professional, you should be good.
00:24:01
You should either be your best and try to stop it.
00:24:03
Or you shouldn't even be pitching or plan.
00:24:05
That's how I feel on that, uh, side note on that.
00:24:08
I used to hate it because as a point guard in high school and one year in college, I would actually get told so many times.
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Don't throw to such and such because they're in the game, you know they're gonna drop it.
00:24:19
I would always want to tell my coach I never did.
00:24:21
Don't have him in the game If he can't catch the ball, That's just how I always feel on that.
00:24:26
There is one player every game.
00:24:27
I'd hit him in the head with the ball because he just would not pay attention.
00:24:30
I throw behind the back pass or something pretty be like, Oh, the crowd goes wild on Busses.
00:24:33
Nose starts bleeding time out.
00:24:35
Get him out of the game.
00:24:36
You're talking John Stockton.
00:24:38
I'm sorry, Jason Kidd, Not John Stockton.
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Just okay, That's my hero.
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But that's just my feeling on it.
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I'm gonna say the smallest a strict possible because I don't wanna be taking any credit away from them because they they had to have good pitching be.
00:24:55
They had to hit home runs or score runs.
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So yes, they accomplish that.
00:24:58
Yes, they did that, but the seasons was just different.
00:25:02
You know, like you're not going to say we're gonna have 160 games seasons from now, 100 seasons of 60 games seasons and then you're gonna be like, Okay, we could never break any of these records.
00:25:13
You're probably at some point when I say OK, we've got to brand off these records where they actually legit meet compare apples to apples, you know? So that's why I feel like it has to have some type of a strict I guess what I was trying to say earlier when I don't think it does is I don't want it to be an ass trick that it says, Oh, they didn't deserve it.
00:25:30
So, like the Astros, the Astros has a big ass tricked saying You guys are jerks.
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Actually, it doesn't even have an ass trick.
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It has a trash can bite because it was garbage.
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What they did but helped on that.
00:25:45
So two different Asterix there.
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One is saying you're cheaters.
00:25:49
You don't deserve it.
00:25:50
Your trophy should be taken away.
00:25:51
Your bonuses should be taken away as well on your just slapped on the wrist for basically screwing everyone over their championship Dodgers attractive, saying it was just a short season.
00:26:01
Some things may not have planned out or paying out the way that it should have in a full season, and I'll leave it at that on that.
00:26:09
I take it that you don't think it deserves one, but you Now I love my that I made and you agree with me because I'm genius.
00:26:17
Uh, listen, I honestly thought that at first you were going to say that they should be an Asterix because of the short season.
00:26:24
But I feel like you're more leading to an Asterix because, you know, not everything would have been the same.
00:26:30
Maybe if that is that if that's what you're trying to say, because of the short season, the only argument that I make for it not having an Asterix is because, honestly, like I know that the long season it za marathon and this was more of a sprint, blah, blah, blah.
00:26:43
You could do whatever metaphor you want, but I look at it and honestly, this might have been the hardest World Series to win, and you know, you you think about it because MLB kind of surprised everybody was saying, Listen, there's no off days in the playoffs.
00:26:58
Besides, in the world, Siri's.
00:26:59
So for this one, you kind of have to start a hot You had toe stay hot through the season, and then you have to stay hot through the playoffs.
00:27:06
Because, listen, you know, most teams go through that weird stretch.
00:27:09
I know the Yankees didn't this year several several times as we have Matt in here.
00:27:15
But, you know, it's there was no I Look at it this way.
00:27:21
Clayton Kershaw in a in a seven game series, is gonna pitch twice or, you know, a Gary Cole is gonna pitch twice.
00:27:26
Or you know how.
00:27:27
If you wanna bring it back on short rest twice, maybe even three times in this series, you can't.
00:27:31
You can't do that.
00:27:32
You have to make sure that, you know if your starter only goes for innings in game one, are you Are you waving the white flag for game one and putting in your bad bullpen? You know, pictures bad e don't know how bad it could be if you're in the MLB. Yeah.
00:27:48
Are you putting them in or, you know, Are you close enough? Do you think you have the offense for that? game one to put in your better players.
00:27:56
So maybe you can come back and then, you know, game to Since you use them, you probably can't use them again.
00:28:01
And I think there was just a lot more strategy that went into this world.
00:28:05
Siri's run then, Ah, lot of other ones because before it was, you know, the two games day off.
00:28:10
So listen, if I have to use, you know, a role in this Chapman two days in a row, it's I'm not I'm not really that work because we have a built in off day this one.
00:28:19
You know, halfway through the season, they were like, Hey, by the way, you guys don't have any off days, and I know that they definitely caught a lot of people by surprise because, you know, I always look at it to that.
00:28:29
If maybe they did say that there was gonna be no off days that ah, lot of teams might have went out and got more starting pitching, more bullpen help at the trade deadline. I know.
00:28:39
You know, maybe it would have been as active because it was a short season.
00:28:42
So maybe people don't want to trade for ah player than that.
00:28:44
And they're only gonna get them for 20 games instead of, you know, no longer amount of time that they usually would.
00:28:50
But, hey, I think this is one of the hardest World Series runs Any team could have possibly went on with the no off days, You know, all the, you know, the bubble.
00:28:59
Not, you know, not playing teams outside of it.
00:29:02
And, you know, for some people, I'm sure it was fine.
00:29:05
Because I know the Yankees.
00:29:08
You gotta play the Orioles and the Red Sox and however many times.
00:29:10
So it was fine for us.
00:29:11
You know, we don't want to play on the other team because they were just God awful.
00:29:14
But I look at this and think, you know, it was hard.
00:29:18
You can't You can't set things up like you always have.
00:29:21
It's a whole different strategy that you had to use, so I don't put any aspect next to it.
00:29:25
If anything, I'm my put an exclamation point there.
00:29:30
What a loser.
00:29:31
I'm sorry, loser.
00:29:34
I'm not put an exclamation point there.
00:29:36
I mean, I agree with what you're saying, but you know, even looking deeper, like you even said that you were playing that the Orioles and and some of the weaker teams more.
00:29:45
I mean, technically, that wouldn't be fair now, would it? Because some of the other teams didn't have that advantage.
00:29:51
You see, that's my That's my second thing, too, though, about why I don't put one are Are you? So, in a long season, what do you have been surprised at? The Dodgers won? Yeah.
00:30:01
Okay.
00:30:04
See, that's my thing.
00:30:05
If somehow this world Siri's ended up going, you know, to the Orioles or or the I was going to say White Sox.
00:30:13
But I forgot that they're actually good now, Um, the Orioles or the Marlins or a team like that e Marlins did.
00:30:21
Jesus, I keep, but you know, a terrible team.
00:30:24
We're just seeing a terrible team that nobody expected anything From then.
00:30:28
I would start looking at it as a kind of a weird thing because I think we all would have known.
00:30:33
And even the Marlins, I know they did make the playoffs, and I'm sorry for the three Marlins fans that might be actually out there.
00:30:39
But I think over the long season that they weren't gonna make the playoffs.
00:30:42
I really I really don't.
00:30:44
I mean, maybe they would have.
00:30:47
That's what I'm saying.
00:30:49
I'm thinking I say it's not an Asterix Only because a team that we know probably would have won.
00:30:53
It did win.
00:30:55
I think of a random team won it, then it would have been like, Okay, maybe this might be a weird kind of situation.
00:31:00
I know it's I know it's hypocritical.
00:31:02
Don't get me wrong.
00:31:03
I absolutely know it.
00:31:04
ISS Because what if the team that the Marlins took would have been a better team that could have made some or noise and upset someone because of worse? Teen was in the playoffs.
00:31:14
Even the Reds. Let's be honest.
00:31:16
We got a hot with like 20 games left and we won like 13 of the last seven were lost seven there or something like that, and I'm just throwing out a random number.
00:31:24
It was something high like that, and we made a push for the seventh place, maybe six place in that division or in the N L.
00:31:32
If that was a 61 162 games, would we stayed hot? Would we have made it a lot better.
00:31:38
I think you guys have the pitching to do it.
00:31:40
I think we did.
00:31:41
But at the same time, we won't ever know.
00:31:45
And the Marlins and the Reds were two teams that probably in 162 games may not have made it.
00:31:50
Or the Reds would have been finally set into the groove and made a better run.
00:31:54
So that's That's my only thing is there's just so many tangible things in this that can and cannot be calculated because it's not ****ytics, but anyway, s o.
00:32:04
Like I said, I don't want to take anything away from the Dodgers.
00:32:07
They were the best team from day one.
00:32:09
They were the best team, the day 60 plus your finals or your playoffs.
00:32:14
So kudos to you guys.
00:32:16
Now, if another team would have won, you're right, we would have said on a strict right, probably.
00:32:22
So why is it the same thing not having a strict on them just because we expected them to win? No.
00:32:30
Like I said, it Zahhar dpoint for me to argue, I'll admit, and you're probably right that I'm that I'm right now.
00:32:38
Oh, yeah, sure.
00:32:40
Michael's never been wrong in his life.
00:32:41
Actually, e actually call no Saddam A.
00:32:45
So it's just it's unbelievable, but I don't know.
00:32:50
I just look at it because it was the Dodgers who won, You know, the Rays were there.
00:32:56
There were two teams that we kind of expected to be there, and I don't know any team can get hot.
00:33:02
Like you said, You know, like you said, the Reds did get hot and they made it into the playoffs.
00:33:07
And I think baseball is one of those weird sports that if your top two pictures get hot, you could win whatever the hell you want.
00:33:13
I mean, the worst team in MLB history, still one like 60 games, so e mean everybody's gonna lose.
00:33:20
But it's just a weird argument for me.
00:33:22
I'm not gonna let me ask you this.
00:33:23
If the Lakers didn't win the NBA Finals this year because of the bubble and we say the sons would have won it because they caught fire in the bubble, they went eight.
00:33:34
No, if they were to make the playoffs because they couldn't, even though they did the best they could.
00:33:38
If the Sun's would have won the NBA Finals.
00:33:40
Would you have said Odd deserves on a strict because the bubble? No, I don't think it's the bubble situation that makes it an Asterix.
00:33:47
I think it's because, like the MBA, it was they went to the bubble to try to get other teams into the playoffs and things like that.
00:33:55
But I still think that the teams that were in the playoffs already, we're kind of set up even before the season, you know, got got shut down.
00:34:03
So I think you know, the the MBA was it was a clear cut thing.
00:34:08
And listen.
00:34:09
I didn't want the Lakers to win, trust me, but I think that there that the ship is fun.
00:34:13
Yeah, no, I'm not even the next families to be real there.
00:34:15
Let's be honest.
00:34:16
The bubble was only to try to get the Pelicans in the playoffs, owe more money.
00:34:20
That's absolutely the only reason they had a bubble.
00:34:23
And and all that and the expansion was was to try to get Zion versus LeBron in the first round.
00:34:29
That was literally the only reason that's it backfired on.
00:34:33
It's all rigged.
00:34:35
It is, but I know it's a weird argument but I'll stick with my point because I am a man of my word.
00:34:41
Just like Carson Wentz for M v p O e.
00:34:49
Still better with one leg. Whatever.
00:34:52
We'll save that for the NFL.
00:34:53
Now.
00:34:54
I don't know how you feel about this.
00:34:56
I know we kind of talked about it in the pre show.
00:34:59
I think this Justin Turner situation is he's an idiot, in my opinion.
00:35:04
Listen, don't get me wrong a little bit.
00:35:06
Why you tell us what's going on here? Oh, no, don't.
00:35:10
Don't you worry.
00:35:11
I'm getting there. I'm getting there.
00:35:13
I know that they were probably in the same room, and maybe they had the virus already, because, you know, Justin Turner, And listen, don't get me wrong.
00:35:23
I'm not only putting this on Justin Turner.
00:35:25
I think the MLB handled this situation absolutely awful.
00:35:29
And I mean, if you want a summary of the situation, go look at Shepherd Bowers Twitter, because he's certainly does not mind, you know, saying what he thinks, But I know that they were probably in the same room.
00:35:41
You know, the players, everything like that.
00:35:44
But you have a positive test.
00:35:48
Come back.
00:35:49
You are taken out of the game, and it's not like it's, uh it's up to the clubs, you know, to determine how they're gonna deal with with the player who gets it.
00:36:01
It is a agreed upon thing between the MLB and the MLB Players Association that if you test positive for this, this is what you're gonna dio.
00:36:08
So it's not like it wasn't up in the air situation where it's like, Oh, do we have to take him out of the game now? Like no, get your taking out of the game, go toe whatever room they locked you away in and stay there. Don't get me wrong.
00:36:20
I know it has to suck for Justin Turner that his team just won the world.
00:36:24
Siri's and you know he can probably legitimately hear them outside of the room celebrating the World Series.
00:36:30
But my my other problem with it is he goes back onto the field, and if it was maybe just the Dodgers, just the Dodgers out there, uh, maybe I don't have such a big problem with it because, like I said, they were all in the same room together in the locker room, together in the dugout.
00:36:46
He had been in the game, so they were all you know with each other anyway.
00:36:50
So maybe if maybe they already have it anyway.
00:36:54
But my problem with him coming back onto the field is now.
00:36:56
There's different people on the field.
00:36:58
It's not just the Dodgers, its media.
00:37:00
Now it's, you know, people's kids.
00:37:02
And, you know, there was, you know, pregnant wives out there and things like that.
00:37:06
That's mawr of my problem with it.
00:37:09
It's not the coming back onto the field, which I still think.
00:37:12
Listen, you agreed to something.
00:37:13
You shouldn't have been there.
00:37:14
You should have.
00:37:15
You know, Ben in a place that they put you after they figured out you were positive, but I just look at it more as a self situation.
00:37:23
I know it has to be terrible Thio here, your team celebrating something that you've worked your legitimate entire career for.
00:37:30
But you got you got different people to worry about.
00:37:33
It's not like it's a cold where listen, I catch a cold.
00:37:36
I might still go toe, you know, work or school or something like that, because nobody it's not, You know it's not that big this is something that you know that shut down more than one country.
00:37:45
So to me, I don't know.
00:37:47
It was just It was just a stupid thing for him.
00:37:50
I'm sorry.
00:37:51
All I heard the whole time is I'm so sensitive.
00:37:53
I'm so sensitive.
00:37:54
I'm so sensitive. I'm sorry. That's all.
00:37:57
I heard there because listen, yes, he played.
00:38:00
What? When was he pulled? Sixth inning, fifth inning.
00:38:03
Something like that. Hey.
00:38:06
Was already in the pulpit or in the dugout with him for over an hour.
00:38:10
Not to mention all the warm ups.
00:38:11
Plus being in the locker room with him, getting the showering before or after practices, batting practice.
00:38:17
All this stuff in the locker room getting dressed with him.
00:38:20
He was already around them.
00:38:22
And my problem is, who released that he had it like, Is that not a hip of thing? You could actually say Trevor Bauer, say this.
00:38:29
Like if you look at the NFL right now, there is a player with the Chargers who has tested positive.
00:38:37
They don't say names, but all of a sudden MLB is like, Oh, the reason he was pulled is because he has it.
00:38:45
That's totally against all policies.
00:38:47
That is personal information that they shared.
00:38:50
They should have just kept it quite probably said, Hey, which they did, right? They should have said you should isolate.
00:38:56
He still has his right to say yes or no on that.
00:38:59
Now, I'm not gonna be like a amendment rights and all this freedom of speech stuff, but it's the world.
00:39:05
Siri's.
00:39:06
You've already been around him.
00:39:07
If you actually did test positive, the guys that you're with are more than likely already going to be tested positive.
00:39:13
Do you agree on that? No.
00:39:15
Yeah, Like I said, though, that's not my biggest problem with it.
00:39:17
It's the fact.
00:39:18
No, but it's the fact that now you're on the field with people you weren't around.
00:39:23
Now you're on the field with the media of people that are trying to cover it.
00:39:27
You and me are sitting side by side right here in my house for over an hour.
00:39:31
I get tested.
00:39:32
Positive. Oh, snap.
00:39:33
Let me go. Isolate.
00:39:34
Are you gonna isolate from your wife when you get home? Even you would stay isolated from your wife for two weeks because I most like we have it now.
00:39:42
Okay, so Then why was your wife down on the field with you celebrating when you know that you've been around someone with Cove? It well, probably because they don't think that Justin Turner is gonna ignore security back onto the field, Mr Eso, But but still, though you were around me, you know you possibly have this.
00:40:00
But yet you still brought your kids and your wife down to the field to be around you.
00:40:05
When you just told me that you would isolate yourself.
00:40:08
So is this.
00:40:09
And I didn't say that I would have brought my wife and kids down and don't get me.
00:40:12
But that's the thing to you have to look at Kobe situation.
00:40:16
There's something called on a B and C.
00:40:18
He was the A.
00:40:19
He has it be or the people that are around him and then the sea, or the people who around the people that had him right, be the beast, are probably going to turn into the A's and the seas that they brought around Arnell bees and probably gonna turn into the A before he even came out on the field.
00:40:32
Are we talking? Laugh.
00:40:33
Now listen, we're not allowed to talk math because I passed algebra in high school with, like, a 66.
00:40:39
So I'll never talk about math ever again.
00:40:41
Is that passing?, 65.
00:40:45
Okay, so that's my thing. Yes.
00:40:48
When it first came out, I was you.
00:40:50
I was sensitive.
00:40:51
I thought, Oh, my goodness, this is so irresponsible.
00:40:53
But at the same time, they already got it.
00:40:56
They're all making their own choices, right? They are a man.
00:41:00
It's also it to me.
00:41:01
It's also just bad optics, too, because now he's on the field, which he shouldn't be.
00:41:05
And then he's ripping off his mask, sitting next, everybody And like you said, you know, maybe the people already got anything like that.
00:41:11
But just the optics in the back of your head.
00:41:14
Don't you think Him He should have been at least smarter about that.
00:41:18
As far as what? Taking us mask off for the pictures.
00:41:20
He I'll be honest with you.
00:41:21
All I seen was him.
00:41:22
Pull the mask off for the picture, and I don't know what he did after that.
00:41:25
I didn't see on that.
00:41:26
He just he just took it off, was done with it? Yes, me, I would have kept my mask on now for the picture.
00:41:34
I probably would have taken it off because the new co vid C d Whatever all this stuff says you have to be within 6 ft of each other for more than 15 minutes to have a chance to catch it.
00:41:43
Which I think it's dumb.
00:41:44
So him taking off his mask for a picture would have been fine.
00:41:47
Now what he did after, he should have put his mask back on.
00:41:50
I put it to you this way.
00:41:51
I work in retail.
00:41:52
There was a girl that I said in the office and at my line of work, and she actually had covert.
00:41:58
Did not know this.
00:41:59
I told her.
00:42:00
I said, I think you may get this tested because you sound awful.
00:42:02
She's like, Oh, no, it's just Sinuses.
00:42:04
Next day she went, got tested. She had Koven.
00:42:06
I told them I said, Oh, I'm sorry.
00:42:10
I'm sorry.
00:42:12
I'm sorry.
00:42:13
I'm sweating here.
00:42:14
This banter has got me sweating.
00:42:15
What town do I have? Oh, it's the terrible town.
00:42:19
That is terrible.
00:42:20
You're god**** right it is.
00:42:21
Uh, but anyways, back to my point, Alex and I know you're a Dodgers fan, so you'll probably not agree with me.
00:42:28
Guess your l A.
00:42:29
But anyways, my thing is, if he goes out onto the field and he, where's his mask was would have been Okay, then I think I think the optics of the situation look better.
00:42:42
I still don't like.
00:42:43
Listen, this is this is also my point to exactly what he's saying right here.
00:42:49
I don't Onley put this on Justin Turner.
00:42:52
You get off that field you've got He's not a people.
00:42:57
No, but that's the thing.
00:42:59
I don't only put it on Justin Turner.
00:43:02
I think the MLB handled this awful.
00:43:05
Oh, you have? You agree? You haven't agreed upon thing that if you have it, you're off the field, your quarantine, whatever.
00:43:12
Blah, blah, blah.
00:43:14
He, uh, he refused MLB security.
00:43:18
What the hell does that even mean? If listen, if my dumb self runs onto the field, I'm getting tackled by ex police officers.
00:43:26
Everything like that, you know, getting carried away in handcuffs and you're telling May Redhead Justin Turner is too much for the for the security to deal with.
00:43:35
Really? You can't.
00:43:36
You can't tell me that he all of a sudden turned into the Hulk and and walked past security.
00:43:42
If I would say I would bet, he said.
00:43:44
If anything, that's what played out.
00:43:46
I bet you he said, You're not going to stop me.
00:43:48
I will lawyer your butt up and let's go at this in a lawsuit because they cannot.
00:43:54
How is he going to do that? It's an agreed upon in the MLB and MLB P A.
00:43:59
If you have it, you have to do this.
00:44:01
It's not like And if you went into the season you agreed to those rules.
00:44:06
You basically signed a contract saying you would follow everything.
00:44:09
So what is he gonna dio su them and then say, Hey, by the way, I know I didn't follow it, but I'm still gonna get you.
00:44:15
Oh, I think you totally could have.
00:44:16
I really dio But here's my thing.
00:44:18
Is was it a rapid test, or was it the one that says, OK, you're positive now We need to do this other one and wait for it or which test wasn't see.
00:44:25
They don't say this.
00:44:26
See, that's the thing.
00:44:27
I don't know either, because I know that the original he got tested twice because the first test came back as inconclusive.
00:44:35
And then the second test came back positive, which was during the game.
00:44:38
And that's another situation.
00:44:40
How do you let somebody play a game with an inconclusive test like that doesn't make any sense to me.
00:44:48
I don't know if it's somewhere written in the rules that you have an inconclusive you can still play.
00:44:52
I don't get.
00:44:53
That is the dumbest thing ever and exactly what Alex says.
00:44:55
It.
00:44:56
It just makes the MLB look bad because you just had the Dodgers break a 32 year drought or whatever, and you should have everybody talking about this and don't get me wrong.
00:45:05
People are still talking about it because it's L.
00:45:07
A.
00:45:08
And it's winning the World Series.
00:45:09
But this is a story now to we shouldn't We shouldn't be talking about this, and I don't mean just as I mean the national meeting.
00:45:15
They shouldn't have to be talking about this.
00:45:17
They should be talking about good for the Dodgers.
00:45:19
Good for Clayton Kershaw.
00:45:20
But now Justin Turner does this, and it turns into a whole other situation.
00:45:26
30.
00:45:27
I know Alex.
00:45:28
It's almost as old as you Oh, hey.
00:45:31
Suddenly I'm older figures, but anyways, I just I feel I feel everyone hates Turner for his decision.
00:45:39
Personally.
00:45:40
What? I wondered what I would like to know, and this is what I really think happened.
00:45:43
I think the team somebody from his team, a veteran, a leader on that team went down there and said, Hey, come on out here and enjoy this with us.
00:45:51
Just keep yourself as contained as you can That's what I really think happened.
00:45:56
Inconclusive.
00:45:57
Yeah, it za weird situation because, you know, like I said, I have a hard time.
00:46:03
My thing is, um, or of the off the everybody else being on the field.
00:46:09
And like I said, I know that maybe Turner did spread.
00:46:12
But see, here's the other thing to the Dodgers got tested, and I know that they're waiting.
00:46:16
I haven't heard anything that any of the Dodger players have come back positive.
00:46:21
So now it's if it's just Turner now, that makes him look even worse.
00:46:26
I think if somebody else on the Dodgers has is well, in a weird, weird way, it takes something away from him because it's all listen.
00:46:34
He had it, I have it.
00:46:35
So basically we all got it anyway, so if he came back onto the field, it doesn't really matter.
00:46:39
But if it's just him, after all of these testing in my head, it makes him look even worse.
00:46:44
This looks so bad on the areas as way.
00:46:47
It's all been held out from one waiting for a result.
00:46:51
To come out 5th, 6th inning like that and pulling him to let me back out on the field and three just releasing his name and saying Why I guarantee.
00:46:59
And tomorrow or the next day, they'll say Turner came up negative today.
00:47:04
It was a false positive and everything will go clean just to push it under the rug or or Here's the other way.
00:47:12
Ah, lot of Dodgers will already had it.
00:47:14
Like you said, That would be the two cases.
00:47:15
It won't be.
00:47:16
It's just Josh.
00:47:17
It's gonna be he.
00:47:18
It was a false positive.
00:47:19
Everything's good.
00:47:21
The MLB held great standards that were supposed to.
00:47:24
We all went by procedures or it's all these Dodgers players had it and it came back then, like why didn't they just wait to release all that you know that.
00:47:34
Like, here's the other thing that I need the MLB to answer.
00:47:37
Me too.
00:47:38
He was supposed He's They had 52 days or whatever of nobody getting nobody testing positive.
00:47:45
How is everybody just going past the idea that he got in a bubble? How did how did he get it? Did he leave? Did he break protocol? Did somebody else get it? Like, how did he get it? That Zatz Another thing that I'm gonna need answers.
00:47:59
But I'm sure the MLB will give us some stupid answer like they like they usually do.
00:48:03
Because let me tell you something.
00:48:04
Out of all the, you know, major sports leagues, I think that they're the absolute worst at handling situations.
00:48:09
Yes, I would agree.
00:48:11
I think we need to move on that we will Dio.
00:48:16
We'll go into a quick, quick recap of the MLB season.
00:48:21
I don't wanna go too long here.
00:48:23
I'll start off with this.
00:48:24
Are you surprised that the season finished? No, but yes. No.
00:48:31
I think it would finish no matter what.
00:48:33
Because I had to call it quits. No matter right now.
00:48:36
I think the season would have ended in any way possible.
00:48:38
They would have had a playoff.
00:48:40
They would've had a World Series of some sort, even if it had been okay.
00:48:43
Something's going on these two of our best teams from where we are right now, let's have a Siri's.
00:48:48
Did it go good? The bubble, the way they did it, in the inner circles, divisions that they played, I don't think so.
00:48:55
Too many teams like even through the Cardinals.
00:48:59
I think they made the playoffs to, but yet they played like two games less than everyone else.
00:49:04
They didn't have to make up their games.
00:49:05
That was one thing.
00:49:06
Trevor Bauer actually said that I'm totally loving Trevor Bauer, not as a baseball player, which I do, but just everything about his personality and his opinions, that he was saying that how come they don't have to pitch or play their game like that's where entire, that they did not have to make That was unfair to the rest of the team.
00:49:23
Just because they got Cove, it really they got rewarded for getting Cove in for that situation, so I think just the whole nine yards of it, the whole 10 yards was horrible.
00:49:32
Managed on that.
00:49:33
And yes, I'm surprised that it we had a season lasts as long as we did.
00:49:38
I'll say that, but yeah, I would think no matter what, they would have had some kind of finale of a world. Siri's.
00:49:45
I'm glad it made it the whole way.
00:49:48
Yeah, I'm kind of I'm kind of like you.
00:49:50
I thought that they were gonna finish, I think.
00:49:53
And I obviously, you know, pray or whatever You wanna pray to that this doesn't happen.
00:49:58
I think that the only way a professional league Yeah, you know, Aaron, Judge, whatever.
00:50:05
Uh, I think the only way a professional sports league isn't going to go through the season if somebody dies, I really dio like because obviously, I don't think you can pick yourself up from that.
00:50:15
You can kind of brush off like, Oh, yeah.
00:50:17
This player has Cove, and he kind of has himself.
00:50:19
Don't think of it as bad as it sounds.
00:50:21
Oh, no, I definitely didn't.
00:50:23
But I'm saying, like if somebody get if a player gets covert and they and they have and they have, you know, issues going forward, you can kind of be like, Oh, yeah, That's Zo Thrill.
00:50:35
Johnson. You catch how bad that sounded.
00:50:37
Let me quote.
00:50:38
So you know that what you said if someone dies, they'll end the season because there's no way they could pick themselves up from that.
00:50:45
They I mean, the league, not the dead person.
00:50:48
Well, the way you said it, it sounded pretty bad.
00:50:50
Dude, God, somebody canceled.
00:50:54
But I think you know, you can kind of brush yourself off of somebody getting it.
00:50:58
But if somebody tragically did pass away from it and I'm gonna try toward this better if somebody passed away from it, then there's no way you could just move on from that situation like that's such a terrible tragedy for, you know, a team you know, the family, everybody to go through.
00:51:13
So I really think that's the literal on leeway that professional, uh, league doesn't continue.
00:51:18
But, you know, it got off to a rough start, to say the least with, you know, the Marlins.
00:51:23
I know the Reds went through some things that I know, you know, Yankees missed.
00:51:27
Have postponed the car.
00:51:30
Yeah, there was a bunch of teams that that it affected, but, you know, they did get through it.
00:51:34
And I'm Yeah, Philly.
00:51:35
And I'm happy that they did because, you know, like I said, you and more baseball is fine for me.
00:51:40
You know, you're not losing May I'll sit there and watch every game.
00:51:42
I know I basically did this season, but I am a little surprised of how because it kind of went smooth after, like that first, like, rocky month and a half, like after the Marlins situation and everything like that.
00:51:56
I feel like after that it went surprisingly smooth for for a league that wasn't in a bubble during the regular season.
00:52:03
Obviously, you know, we didn't get to see that before because the n b a.
00:52:07
The NHL were both in the bubbles, so they just have to finish off their seasons.
00:52:10
This was, you know, the startup getting through the season and the playoffs.
00:52:14
So I'm kind of surprised how smooth one after the whole Marlon situation.
00:52:18
But, you know, I'm happy for the MLB and, you know, hopefully things they're gonna get back to normal by next season.
00:52:23
You know, speaking of the bubble, how did you feel about it? Because I kind of liked it, you know, I know I've said this before, and I don't think too many people have agree with me if anybody.
00:52:33
So I'm fine with because I'll die on this hill.
00:52:35
I think it's hard work yourself back up from after that to just e think the world Siri's being treated like a Super Bowl event would be great for baseball.
00:52:47
I know it's a lot harder to do than the Super Bowl, because that's a one night thing.
00:52:51
You fly in, you can fly out the next day if you really want to, and this is potentially a seven game thing.
00:52:56
But if you can, you know, set up a place that's sustainable.
00:53:01
You know, for a week, week and a half of the World Series being played and, you know, turned into a big thing.
00:53:06
You know? You know, they went down to Texas.
00:53:09
You know, obviously you're gonna have to put it in a place that's warm weather or a dome because nobody's coming to New York or Boston or Chicago during October for a week when it's, you know, 20 degrees outside to watch baseball.
00:53:24
But I think the bubble worked really, really well.
00:53:26
Obviously, we didn't have any problems with it until this Justin Turner thing.
00:53:29
But I was kind of surprised at how smooth it when I thought that, you know, maybe players would have put up more of a fight of not wanting to go in because I know originally they didn't really want Thio.
00:53:37
But how did you feel about the bubble in total? I do like it.
00:53:41
I thought it was very interesting.
00:53:42
I did like it.
00:53:43
I guess I should say just the Central NL Central, where I'm at how we got to play.
00:53:48
All of you know, Central quite a bit.
00:53:50
I think 40 games with them, Then we play the A L Central for 20 games.
00:53:53
I thought that was really interesting and a lot of fun.
00:53:56
You know, you got to see the same players was quite a bit.
00:53:58
It was entertaining for that perspective.
00:54:00
Now, this is what I would like to see for next year.
00:54:03
Maybe cut the games down just a little bit if you can't do the whole 162 games but do three many seasons and do a central central and then do like a central west for a little bit and do like a central east, you know, of course, you have to divide it every which way to do it.
00:54:21
But you could make it work.
00:54:22
You just and then you could do like you start with your central Central play for I don't know, 20 games will say, and then you take a two week lay over where if anyone has co vid that that's had its time, run its course, then you fly to your new bubble and you play your teams over there.
00:54:38
I don't know how you would how's it? But then through 20 games there, two week hiatus, then you go over to the East Coast 20 games there, and then you say, Okay, now let's go for a World Series.
00:54:49
I think that would be interesting That way.
00:54:52
Everyone plays everyone.
00:54:54
It would probably take the whole season as we are, and that was 60 games I just made up right there, which is what we play this year.
00:55:00
It sprays it over a longer time.
00:55:02
You actually get your teams playing your other favorite teams that you don't get to see so much.
00:55:05
You get to see these still with these great players come into your home field where you could.
00:55:10
Well, I guess you wouldn't be going to the games one of their likely, but at least you see them in your ballpark on TV.
00:55:15
That way everyone plays everyone.
00:55:18
Now.
00:55:19
X games may not be completely the same amount, but at least it's more leveled all the way across.
00:55:24
Now, how can you say anything bad about that plan? Yeah, the only problem I don't have.
00:55:30
No, no, I don't have a problem with it.
00:55:32
I think it's honestly not a bad idea, but I just know from what the n.
00:55:37
Ba said, that setting up a bubble is very, very expensive.
00:55:41
I know that.
00:55:42
I can't remember how much you know, million.
00:55:44
Or maybe even into a billion.
00:55:46
I don't think it went that far.
00:55:48
Um, setting up, uh, setting.
00:55:51
Setting up? Yeah, setting up Disney was for the MBA bubble, so I don't know how much money it would actually cost to set up three different bubbles like you're saying so.
00:56:01
I don't know how that would work, but I don't really.
00:56:04
I don't hate this situation off.
00:56:06
Listen, you'll play.
00:56:07
These people will take, you know, you could even overlap it.
00:56:10
So there's no, you know, pausing baseball, you could overlap it as listen, you're gonna play during this time.
00:56:16
And then while you guys were having your two weeks off, these people are gonna be playing their last two weeks.
00:56:23
And then by the time they're done with their two weeks, you're all the way back and, you know, schedule.
00:56:27
That's type of way.
00:56:28
But honestly, it's not a terrible, terrible idea, Michael.
00:56:32
It's a you know what? You finally did something right? Yeah.
00:56:35
Now let's move on to our final big topic of the day.
00:56:43
Free agency? I don't know.
00:56:47
I have, you know, one topic to discuss.
00:56:50
And then maybe, you know, just one question.
00:56:52
As apparently, you're jamming out.
00:56:54
I must not be hearing the music but music in my head all the time.
00:56:57
And what do you expect from free agency this year? Because I honestly think that this might be one of the worst free agencies for a player.
00:57:06
Uh, teams just came off losing a lot of money.
00:57:09
I know that the Yankees said that they probably lost the most money out of every any team.
00:57:13
And but I just think you're not going to see, I think those top players, they're gonna get paid.
00:57:19
I think you know, Bauer is gonna get paid. Reum.
00:57:22
Utah was going to get paid.
00:57:23
You know, people of that nature.
00:57:24
But you already saw it with the cardinals.
00:57:26
Kolten Wong got his, uh, team option denied.
00:57:30
So he's, you know, free agent.
00:57:31
Now, I think the middle middle class, if you want to say or whatever middle tier over Yeah, middle tier and lower tier players are struggling in A In a market like this, I think that you're going to see deals that you would have thought are for this many million being, you know, 10 5, whatever less than originally is gonna be just because teams lost so much money.
00:57:56
And the interesting thing is, I'm gonna get into this as my we're gonna do a little rant segment at the end of each episode, and I'm gonna get I'm gonna do mine on this situation.
00:58:07
But the only team that might not be affected of this and it's it's funny because living in New York, they've been our laughing stock.
00:58:16
If the sale to the Mets of Cohen goes through there might be the only team that is not affected, because, listen, he didn't lose any money during this.
00:58:24
He didn't know the team s Oh, he's coming in.
00:58:27
He's coming in.
00:58:28
Brand new pockets.
00:58:29
$14 billion in him, no salary cap.
00:58:32
So, listen, the Mets might, you know, go out and make their payroll 300 million someday.
00:58:36
But how do you How do you What do you think free agency is gonna look at like this year First, before you start talking, I thought it would actually be kind of crazy.
00:58:43
Who would go where? You know, it's just it's all up in the air because you only got to stay in your quarter and it was hard for everyone else to really probably do a lot of scouting because one of you probably can't see your scout certain teams to be like, Okay, these guys will be free agents.
00:58:55
So let's kind of see him first hand and see his mechanism mechanistic mechanics and see how things were going there.
00:59:04
But I don't know that you said that.
00:59:07
I mean, that was a really good point.
00:59:08
Just like what you said is, I'm brilliant, you know, even a blind squirrel confined a nut that falls from a tree every once in a law.
00:59:15
I mean, clock is right twice a day, and I like that. That's right.
00:59:19
That's right.
00:59:20
But so, yeah, I definitely think it won't work out that way.
00:59:23
I think really your to tear or three tier players.
00:59:27
You're just gonna have to take whatever first option comes because you can't Really? I don't want to stay that way.
00:59:33
You can't You The ball is not gonna be in their court to be ableto bark whatever they want to on this, because you can't really go to say okay.
00:59:41
The Cincinnati Reds, They offered me the bare minimum because I played there.
00:59:44
I didn't really have a good year.
00:59:45
It's Look over here.
00:59:46
I blame it all on that.
00:59:48
Let me go see what free agency is gonna do.
00:59:50
The White Sox I know love to me, and they'll probably double what they were offering me.
00:59:54
You can't take that risk because they're gonna be like, Listen, man, you know, sadly, this is gonna be the arguments.
00:59:59
Hey, you **** Cove.
01:00:00
It last year and we see Cam Newton not producing very well after Cove in.
01:00:05
We see certain players.
01:00:06
I can't remember the other defense of player that had it.
01:00:08
That has. Maybe it's Gilmore.
01:00:10
Just hey, did have it at one point.
01:00:13
Yeah, well, I mean, here's the other thing, too.
01:00:14
You could just look at the red.
01:00:16
I can't remember his name at the moment.
01:00:18
He's a picture for the Eduardo.
01:00:22
Water is something.
01:00:23
He's a pitcher for the Red Sox.
01:00:24
He has frozen.
01:00:27
Oh, I think it's you, Michael at the moment.
01:00:30
But I'll continue on here.
01:00:32
I I don't know the Red Sox pitcher.
01:00:34
Exactly.
01:00:35
I think his name is Eduardo something, but he got co vid and he's still having heart problems from the situation.
01:00:42
So I don't know how you know that's gonna affect free agency, because maybe you know, Then I'll be able start looking at a team or players that had cove it.
01:00:51
And now they're not going thio, you know, Want to sign them? Listen, I don't know what is going on with Michael here right now, though.
01:00:58
A little a little frozen on my end, so I don't know if it's me or him, but I'm gonna say it's him because I don't see him moving, so we'll go with that.
01:01:07
I'll add him back to the stream, you know, once once he's back and better than ever.
01:01:11
But I'll move it on here anyway, because we were gonna go onto the next topic and that was going to be.
01:01:19
If you could sign one free agent for free, who would it be? And my answer is very, very simple, and it's going to sound pretty weird because he already it was a Yankee.
01:01:31
But like I said before, if D. J.
01:01:35
LeMay, who doesn't get resigned by the Yankees, I think that they've messed up in more ways than one.
01:01:40
I think Yankee fans are gonna go absolutely crazy.
01:01:43
I I don't know how much D J is gonna command on the market because, like, we were just saying the market might be a little messed up this year with the covert situations and things like that.
01:01:52
But he's a player that he's a player that the Yankees need.
01:01:55
We don't really have that many needs.
01:01:58
We kind of figure out the starting pitcher were Colin Severina is gonna come back next season.
01:02:03
We got David Garcia now.
01:02:05
Judges locked in stands locked in Sanchez.
01:02:09
I don't know what they're gonna end up doing with him after this season that he had this year.
01:02:12
But LeMay who is? Yeah, basically the leader of that team he, you know, is your leadoff guy.
01:02:21
He can hit the ball anyway, that he wants to.
01:02:24
He's been very, very good since coming to the Yankees.
01:02:28
And that was the thing that a lot of people were scared off.
01:02:30
Was him coming over from Colorado, which was Oh, gosh, is he actually gonna be, you know, as good as he was there because the air is thin.
01:02:38
And this, that and the third.
01:02:40
But D.
01:02:41
J.
01:02:42
Has been a godsend for the Yankees at the moment, and I think that that has to be priority number one.
01:02:48
I know there's different positions that they're kind of looking at because, like I said, uh, Gary didn't play very well this year, so I don't know if they're gonna wanna, you know, dive into the catching market.
01:02:58
Um, I know that Brett Gardner is a free agent, but I think Clinton is gonna end up replacing him anyway, So I don't really think that that's gonna matter too.
01:03:05
much as well, but these am a you, to me has to be your number one offseason priority.
01:03:11
He's been, you know, absolutely unbelievable.
01:03:14
Like I said, I think I believe he did win the batting title this year as well.
01:03:19
So he he's doing absolutely amazing, as Michael just texted me that he got booted.
01:03:26
Oh, no.
01:03:27
Maybe we'll end up getting Michael back on here before before I end everything up.
01:03:32
So I think he lost Internet.
01:03:35
He said, It's storm and pretty bad, but that was probably going to the end of those segments.
01:03:39
Anyway, I'll get I'm sure we'll hear from Michael on the next episode, But before we do wrap it up, we're gonna try toe, You know, I don't know what we're gonna call this exactly yet, but we're gonna try to do basically like a rant segment at the end of each show.
01:03:54
Me and Michael are gonna go back and forth with it, and I'm gonna obviously, as Michael's I hear anyway, take the take.
01:04:02
The lead for this one on my rent for this week is going to be which is going to sound very weird.
01:04:07
But for the mayor of New York.
01:04:09
Bill de Blasio, Um, the Mets, you know, sold the mats to Steve Cohen and the way that the contract is set up with Citi Field and and the land that City of Field is built on.
01:04:24
Is that Bill de Blasio, I guess.
01:04:26
Who was the mayor of New York? Like I said, Ken veto the deal or whatever he wants to do with it, and I just don't understand why you would want to do that.
01:04:33
The Wilpons has done absolutely nothing for the message done absolutely nothing for the area surrounding Citi Field in Queens.
01:04:40
What is the point of of not one and coming to come in and build the Mets up into something that they actually could be? Like? We said before, Steve Cohen is coming in to our covert written league.
01:04:52
Got all these teams, just lost money and and he's gonna come in with 16 14 whatever billion dollars in his in his pocket.
01:05:00
And I don't know what the problem would be with him coming in and making the Mets into ah competent franchise.
01:05:06
Listen, I live in New York.
01:05:07
They're the butt of every joke.
01:05:09
Whenever something goes wrong, you say? Oh, it's kind of like the Mets, and that's what bad teams being in New York, the Giants, the Jets, everything the Mets during baseball season is just an absolute laughingstock all the time.
01:05:22
And now you have somebody coming in who's gonna pour money into the Mets.
01:05:25
He's gonna maybe pour money, hopefully into the area surrounding Citi Field being Queens, and he's gonna try to actually make them into a competitive franchise.
01:05:34
And now you might veto the deal and listen.
01:05:36
I don't think it's gonna happen anyway, because I guess the Mets of lawyers looked into the deal when the sale was going to go through that there's no way he could actually do it, because I think the only way he can veto it is if he was, like, convicted of a felony or convicted of a crime like that.
01:05:52
And to my knowledge, Steve Cohen hasn't been so.
01:05:55
I don't think it's gonna happen anyway, but I just don't understand what the point of trying to put up a road block in front of Cohen is. Anyway.
01:06:02
Like I said, the Mets have been absolutely nothing since that World Series.
01:06:05
On in I believe it was 2015 and they haven't done anything since then, barely making the playoffs or, you know, being good and then struggling.
01:06:15
And, you know, they finally got Pete Alonso, who, even though he struggled this year.
01:06:19
So I just don't understand the point of putting up another roadblock in front of the mess to make the sale of Steve Cohen.
01:06:24
Let come and take over, let him poor his money into the Mets and make them a competent franchise.
01:06:30
And, I mean, maybe it's the Maybe he wants a Rod Thio get the Mets because I know a Rod and J.
01:06:35
Lo said that he would take the payroll up to, like, 250 million, and he was gonna, you know, pour money into into the queen's area around surrounding Citi Field.
01:06:44
I don't believe Steve Cohen has made those promises yet, so maybe in the back of de Blasio's mind, he's saying, Oh, what A Rod's gonna do this for our city.
01:06:51
But listen, he has $14 billion.
01:06:54
I'm sure that he's gonna invest into the match in the area around it.
01:06:56
Why, if he has this much money, you can't take it to the grave, so I assume that he's gonna pour money into it.
01:07:01
But that's just my rent of this week.
01:07:04
I know Michael will take over next week.
01:07:06
I know we had some Internet problems tonight, as you said it was storming.
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I just wanna thank Jesse who, you know, kind of really started backstop banter.
01:07:53
I know him and Alex.
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We're doing a lot of stuff on here, but they're busy people.
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So they kind of handed the reins over to me and Michael and I believe that we're gonna take the We're gonna take over this, John.
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We're gonna do some pretty good things.
01:08:04
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01:08:06
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And I am very, very excited to announce this is actually the first time.
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Me and Josh are actually going to be interviewing him Monday afternoon.
01:09:13
Um, we're gonna end up recording, and then we'll definitely post that eventually or at a later date.
01:09:18
Probably in that week, but very, very excited about that.
01:09:21
So make sure you are You are looking out for that as well.
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