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my legs, friends and family.
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What's popping with you? It is your man.
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It is your boy.
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And we've got to go ahead and get this thing started with another episode of next weekly.
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I got my man and they appear in the chat who was recovered from last night's episode.
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You watched last night's episode.
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The last hour was explosive.
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Probably go watch the last hour.
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And it wasn't even about the New York Knicks.
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You should go check that episode out.
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It's good episode.
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It was funny, you know, we have people storming off the set and everything, and we need to get my guy over here.
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And he was going on with you, man.
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How you feeling? You know what I said? What I'm saying? What, Up to chat? Yeah, like you said, man, you know, rubbed off the dust, the burns from last night.
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So both like Yeah, man, it was It was It was a fun one.
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It was funny.
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And it was fun.
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Exactly, Exactly funny.
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And it was fun.
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So listen, ladies and gentlemen, today, um, I'm to start off the show by listening to something from Ian Bagley and then from there you know, we're gonna get into, uh, just assuming that Tom Thibodeau is the coats.
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We can assume that Tom Thibodeau was the coach.
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There's what any bigly say makes sense is far how Leon Rolls plans to play and you'll hear it.
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And if he is the coach, how do we proceed with bringing in more coaches? How will the players you know, the players that we have? What do you think he'll feel about the players that we have? Right? So that's, you know, that's what we're going to get into today.
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And then later, Ron.
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Man, Let's just take a listen to Iain Begg Lee and what he had to say about a two minute video, not a video two minutes clip on what he had to say about the New York Knicks and what the roster could look like or who might be playing on the floor.
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I said, Let's take a listen.
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P N New York Tonight podcast with Larry Hardisty on 98.
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7 ESPN.
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Yes, I know it's ESPN, guys.
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We bring in one of my favorite guys, a guy who I was toiled side by side in the Nick locker room for a number of years when he was with ESPN.
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Now he is doing the same great work with us and why he's in Bigly, who covers the MBA and the Knicks and Nets locally in Bagley.
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Welcome, my friend.
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How are you, Larry? What's happening, man? How are you? I'm doing great.
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Thank you, Everybody safe at home.
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Thank you, Everybody say thank you, sir.
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Um, big.
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We got a lot to talk about.
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I want to talk about the bubble.
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I want talk about Florida.
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Won't talk about the Nets, but I got to start with the Knicks.
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Are our old tag team group.
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Um, way have fun in that locker we should did way.
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Probably had Well, the best time we have was trying to take bets on how long it would take Carmelo to come out way also.
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But we also had fun up a training camp because you you were sparring with the number of the other reporters.
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There was one day we're gonna one day we'll just sit down, bring in the studio, we'll we'll give people life as as as it is to be in bigly.
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Let those spars with the writer happening today.
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Really probably worse now because, you know, they're looking to differently.
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I e cat I can imagine.
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I can imagine I could imagine eggs.
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The Knicks have seven 159 coaching candidates when they when are they going to whittled it down to maybe three? Well, when is your interview? Are you gonna interview? No, no, no.
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I didn't make the first.
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Well, listen, some have had two or three interviews.
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I need to get the 1st 1 so I'm obviously not on the list.
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So as you know what they did, Actually, I think everybody actually gotten the same amount of interviews.
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What? They didn't They a 30 minute short intro conversation over Zoom.
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What? The candidates and then they followed up and had a more formal conversation with the candidates at Bologna. They're done.
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I think they finished, you know, not late last week in a meeting today the but I think they are done with all the candidates that have been reported on.
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So I don't know if they're gonna have another round of guys who are we be crude unquote finalists.
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But they have had their full conversations with everybody who has been reported as a candidate, and the audience loves Mark Jackson and they love Jeff Van Gundy and I didn't see either off their names mentioned as part of the folks who were in the running.
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And I know everybody's name has not been mentioned, but I did not see their names mentioned, and it's interesting.
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These these two guys don't seem.
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Especially Mark Jackson doesn't seem to be in the running for head coaching jobs lately.
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You know, I think he will be in the running for the net job.
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I think he in town, though, would be in the running over there.
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Maybe Jason Kidd and I think Jason Kidd, also if Houston opens up, will be in the running there.
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But with Mark Jackson, I think he'll be in the running over there.
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My guess what? The Knicks waas Since they didn't view him as a serious candidate for the head coaching position.
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I don't think they wanted to.
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You know they may be disrespect him by bringing him in for an interview for a job that they didn't really view him as a serious person for.
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And I probably don't want, like, have the fan base getting treated, knowing that, you know, he wasn't seriously and it's probably to avoid all that may be the same thing with Jeff.
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They decided not to bring those to infer formal for the formal interview process.
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But I do think Mark will be in the mix in Brooklyn because Kevin Durant, I think, is a fan during manager climbing. Essential.
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Is there reason to believe that? Mark? Whoa, whoa, Get interviews with the mess.
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And is this Nick job tips to lose? I've been told that, you know, for weeks now haven't heard anything that leads me to believe otherwise.
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You know they're still hurdles to get over here, even if you have done, if you're through the interview process, you stopped to negotiate a contract, and they still bring the coach to me with the owner, seniors and final sign off.
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And so we're not there.
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Get that.
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I have anything until the middle believe that tip is not the odds on favorite, and I think any Atkinson has let **** internal support.
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But alone here it has been taking a big toe.
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Lose now.
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And they were talking to Ian Bigly, basketball ****yst for S and Y on Carlin.
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Harder seeing for Carlin here on 98 7 ESPN And we know you know the room.
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You know, the reputation that Tom Thibodeau has.
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Everybody's read about it.
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Everybody knows you potentially have a young basketball team here, and the rumor is around that he doesn't do well with young players.
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See what happened in Minnesota, you know, and then, with the veteran Derrick Rose was complaining about practicing in Chicago.
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I also know that he that circled the MBA and watched other coaches and how they ran their programs in their practices.
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Are we looking? Possibly if he is the new head coach of the Knicks, is he going to be a different Tom Thibodeau than what we've known them to be? I think there will be tweets.
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You know, I think there will be, um you know, different ways that he approaches, practice different ways and maybe approaches minutes would be different ways that he, uh, collaborates with different parts.
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That organization, because of his test express, thinking he was open about talking about what he had learned from his visit, the referenced, particularly to the Clippers and Doc Rivers And how the Clippers handles practices.
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You know, sitting veterans are giving bettering the later day having the younger guys go, you know, between games and those practice days.
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And I think that you will see some modifications.
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And with regard to what happened in Chicago, you know, he clashed with the front office.
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I don't think that's gonna be issues in New York because of his release. Chip with Leon.
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Rose has really stooped with willing Wesley Worldwide West.
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You know, these are going stealing relationships, so I don't think there's gonna be friction there you saw in Chicago, Minnesota.
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He was the president and head coach in New York.
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If you get tired, he's just a little coach.
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He's not gonna be dealing with the duties of GM president, So that's a different scenario as well.
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In what path do you think from your reporting, this Knick team is going to take a Sfar.
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US.
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Personnel.
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Is it going to be predominantly through the draft? Or because Leon Roses here? Because, as you mentioned, the World wide West is here.
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Are they going to try again to dip into the free agent market, which he and let's face it, it's not been very good.
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It hasn't been good for them, really hasn't.
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And there's not a killer class this offseason.
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I keep wanting to say this summer, but it's not going to be so.
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I think the two routes you're gonna see are Clean draft and Unisys UNIX, maybe throwing big money but short term money at veteran free agents or pursuing, you know, young counts of players treat or maybe a veteran player, future it.
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So I think that if Tom Thibodeau is the coach, I think you're gonna see a heavy veteran presence on the roster.
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I think they're going to roll the balls out and have a bunch of 1920 21 year olds in the rotation.
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Thinking better is getting minutes on this next Knick team.
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Thibodeau's coach beautifully. Not.
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You're more likely to see a decent amount of veterans on the roster.
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And then, like I filled out, showing some years ago where you're just, you know, putting together young players and having learnt on the fly.
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Okay, let's stop it right there.
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Because that's what I want to get into, right? We You know, we're assuming that this is Tom Thibodeau.
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That's going to be the coach that was in Bagley.
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Ladies and gentlemen, that was in Bagley.
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So you get a chance to make sure you go check out s.
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And why TV? And he was Ah, you are the hardest artist, er podcast Larry Hardisty for ESPN.
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So that was those two guys having a conversation and you heard it.
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And I think we heard it before.
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He said, I think you're going to see a heavy veteran presence on the rosters.
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Not like they're gonna roll out, roll the ball out and have a bunch of 1920 21 year olds in the rotation.
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I want to get your take on that guy.
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So I want to know, How do you feel about that statement? And Bagley is one of those guys who in my opinion, is plugged in.
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He's one of the guys that I trust to, you know, to get this information.
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As far sources are concerned, he's one of the guys that I really do trust.
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Be a heavy veteran presence, not a bunch of kids being role, you know, just being thrown out there to play ball.
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How do you feel about that statement? And listen, if Tom Thibodeau is the coach, I do believe that's exactly what we're going to see on the floor.
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How do you feel about it? Neat.
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I mean, honestly, man, I mean, I'm okay with it because we want to win.
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I mean, we got a win.
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I mean, we've gone through the last 23 years on the honest that argument in 10 years of just turmoil with this team.
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I mean, it's time to start winning.
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I mean, if you want to bring in, you know, free agents.
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If you want to make this more of, ah destination for players to want to come to, you gotta win no matter what.
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And I could see them going with vets because it's ah hope I hope and pray that it's ah, earn your role type of situation where if he puts a vet in front of the young guy, it's the young guys job to earn that spot, which what we hope Fizdale would do, you know that? Eat what you kill stuff, which we never really saw.
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He played more favorites, So I'm hoping tip of those that's his mentality is like, Hey, these young guys are gonna to earn their spot whether that means playing defense or what that means, you know, being offensively, um uh, able to shoot.
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I mean, those are probably the biggest issues the Knicks have, but im Ah, horrid, man.
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I mean, I think I think with a new coach, you gotta gotta get some wins under your belt.
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You gotta build that confidence.
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You know, if you just throw a bunch of young people out there like which everybody wants to see, we're gonna lose a lot of games again.
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I mean, I don't know if these guys are ready to take that next step just by the young guys.
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I mean, but who the who? The vets they're gonna be. That's the question.
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Are we going to go more of the second tier free agents and m, or we're gonna bring in some one year deals again.
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I mean, it's gonna mention to see what vets they're talking about because almost all our vets are all, um, set to leave.
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So I mean, I was talking about whole influx of vets.
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Me.
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That's that's my question is, what do you talking about you talking about, like making a splash of free agency you're talking about? Maybe get some second tier guys, maybe one year deals? I don't know that.
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My question.
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I mean, it sounds to me like it's going to be somebody.
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Sounds to me if you're talking about vets.
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Some of it sounds similar to what they did last year.
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Yeah, when you're deals, you know, short deals, running veterans like Taj Gibson.
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Um, I mean, if you want to consider Elfrid Payton event, I guess you can consider Elfrid Payton event because of the years that he's been in the league.
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Bobby Portis is not really a very, I don't know.
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I guess he's made a mid vet.
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Whatever you want to call them.
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Julius Randle was kind in that same situation whereby reports admit vet that's overpaid in this kind of their two.
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So if you're talking about true vets Wayne Ellington, um, Taj Gibson, Reggie Bullock, Marcus Moore's those were vets those those were true to enough vets you'll see in that guy stripes on the arms.
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Um, the other guys are still, you know, figuring out figuring some things out.
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I mean, it's kind of what they did last year.
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What do you think about that, Andy? Well, for me, if they signed quality guys, I won't have a problem with that.
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But if there is going to roll out Elphick Bacon, Wayne Ellington, Vegetable of Julius Randle and Touch Gibson.
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I don't think I can see that going through the whole season, man.
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That's gonna be all.
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But, you know, I think you know the first coaches priority should be looking at the squad and really understanding the players on not looking on lee their development, but at the best way to, you know, go further with the team.
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So let's see what we get in the tract.
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But we're gonna have, you know, a rookie, and that's gonna be a high big probably should be playing, you know, big minutes.
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Maybe not even, you know, a starting right.
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But at least big minutes, RJ.
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Well, I'm guessing.
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I think you gotta start. It's gonna start.
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He has to start.
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Yeah.
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So? So, you know, I'm get Step's gonna accept one, Ricky.
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At least you know that.
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Maybe now look, like I say assault, all right? And no, I think Mitch might be getting quality minutes as well.
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I don't know who is going to be the three or was going to be the four.
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I'm guessing granddaughter if he's going to stay.
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I don't think this can, you know, come in and put Randall on the bench.
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Pull put RJ on the bench and stuff like that.
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I don't think that's gonna work.
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But if we signed quality guys, for example, if we trade for our quiz fall right, you can roll with Chris ball and you can bend, maybe look at a couple of young guys or, you know, sign solid vets.
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But if I would be beyond Rose, I would go with signing if if we're gonna sign those quality bets for young for sorry for one year deals I would go like for guys or 34 That that You know, the young guys won't view feel, feel hurting.
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And they're curry is gonna be damaged by a guy like, you know, we're gonna send a guy like that that's in his prime, right? So he's gonna, you know, block minutes for the couple of next season's It's maybe a season or just, you know, roll into the season and see what's gonna happen down.
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Yeah, I think I feel like if you bring it well, let me get to Evergreen.
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Evergreen.
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If you resisted talk, how do you feel about those streets? So So, uh, so I'm a little frustrated by a very good Yeah.
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Okay.
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So I'm a little frustrated by it, because no, I don't I don't want to repeat exactly what we did last time.
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You mean like we just we just We just went down this road last year.
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Super veteran, Heavy presence.
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Um, no.
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And I feel like again.
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You know, last year I was last season.
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I was a guy that was saying, like, we had an 18 game season of winds, that we were successful, and we we got to what, 20? 22 23.
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So I'm I'm looking at a slow and steady grinding process with a few veterans that air here, maybe maybe five vets at the most.
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That air here to, you know, really support the young guys.
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Give them everything that they need and help them what they need to be successful.
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I don't want to see an entire team full events because I don't want to see an entire team for the best that end up leaving after two years or after a year.
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And now we're stuck where we were with all the rookies again.
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I want a team I want to slow and steady build team that was almost like similar like that.
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That that Clippers team with, um, Darius Miles on it, like what all those young do's that we're running up running up and down the court.
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I want to slow a slow and steady grind and build build young team that you want to stay here for the bride of New York City and and really want to play for the team and not no, I don't know if it's frustrating.
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It's frustrating here, like you completely understand where where the the team is coming from.
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Weight organizations coming from but we haven't been successful in doing that at all.
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Like the last time we were successful at doing that was under Woodson, right? Like, and then when we bring all these other vets in, like, they don't pan out or we get rid of them Same thing with the young guys, so I just I want to stay the course.
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You mean whatever the course was that was built on the idea that was built under under Mills and Perry with, you know, China filled the team through the draft.
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I want to do that.
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If this were going to go to this whole rinse wash repeat thing that we just did last year with signing the whole bunch events, you know it.
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I don't think that's gonna work.
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Like I feel like out of Max.
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We should have five vets, the 11 from each position back and really meant or the people, the young guys that they have under their belt right now.
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You know, young, the young guys that small for you, who's gonna be Who's gonna be the oh, who is going to be the guy that mentor Kevin Knox.
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You know who from the small floor.
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The power forward position is going to give Kevin nights where he needs to be successful if we intend on keeping, who is going to be the guy that's going to give Mitchell Robin sending the tools that he needs at the five to be successful, the same thing that the one that we plan on Stand here with Frank Franken and DS J for going into the draft? Who was gonna be that point guard that's going to give us that ability t o have some stability? What are you even after they end up leaving? And I personally don't think that, you know, grabbing a whole bunch of new people again from having nine brand new dudes on a team from last season.
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I don't think that that's the right formula and doing it again, because then you got Frank Miller Aquino who's gonna those under a whole new set of leadership again, You got DS James under instead of leadership, since since he's been in high school, you know, you have all these new people that just keep coming in and keep getting recycled and keep getting flushed out, and it's get ready to happen again Not to say that I wanted Bobby porters to stay, and I want it.
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Ellington stay and I want you know, l for pain to stay and all those guys.
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But it's like, Can we show some some bit of continuity? You know, it's a constantly going to start now because we thought it was going start last season.
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It really hasn't started yet.
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Well, and I mean, the thing is, you know, with the way the contracts are structured, no matter what happens unless you decide to keep those players, no matter what happens, you are going to you're gonna end up with nine new roster spots.
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And the problem is, they don't take on big contracts.
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So it's gonna have to be one year deals, you know? Right, right, Right.
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So you're gonna take on nine new roster roster spots? I do.
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I actually I said it back then.
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I'm gonna say it again.
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Now.
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I felt like the thought process was correct.
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It wasn't executed well throughout, but I thought that I felt like the thought process was correct.
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Because you have guys, you know, it's hard to say who was event, not event sometimes right Julius Randle's 25 years old.
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People could say is a vet because he's been in the league for five years.
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Some people say he was only 25 years old.
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You know of it.
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You know you're looking at 2028 29 30 years old.
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You know that's been in the league for a while and being gruesome, some things in the league.
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Elfrid Payton in the same boat, Bobby Portis in the same boat like these guys are really kind of young players.
00:23:47
You know what I'm saying? You know, when you talk about true vets.
00:23:50
Marcus Morris was a true vet.
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Wayne Ellington types like those guys are your vet vets.
00:23:57
All right, Um, I think you know they're going to go that route and you have Tom Thibodeau.
00:24:04
I think they're definitely going to go that route and bringing in vets.
00:24:09
But I think you can bring in vets, and I see someone in a chat.
00:24:13
00 raw Hebrew thinking for the super chat.
00:24:17
You know, he said, you can't go for the playoffs and try to rebuild at the same time, but you could try to be competitive at the same time, that should be building, I think, and having good veterans as part of rebuilding.
00:24:29
You just got to make sure that you got the right mix so that your young guys that being talk, you're saying because I think the idea is that and I hear what Evergreen is saying right, you know, you bring in a bunch of vets that's hogging up the playing time and then they leave and then the young guys haven't really gotten to the point that they needed to get to, to maintain and team on their own.
00:24:52
I think the idea is that you could bring in vets in certain areas in certain positions that have certain roles that will help the young guys to come along.
00:25:02
And then when they leave, those guys are ready to take the man O on their own.
00:25:07
It's not easy to do.
00:25:08
That's why winning a championship in the NBA's is so prized because it's very hard and to build it from the ground up is even tougher.
00:25:17
Um, you know, I think you know, when you talk about when you talk about the strategy that they're looking at, I think there's two things that really have to be, well, more than two things.
00:25:31
Three things that you really gotta look at probably more than that.
00:25:34
But obviously the point guard position.
00:25:38
You know, you might have a young point guard in the draft, but you need somebody who can really, really delve out who can really distribute the duties on a team on the floor.
00:25:51
And I'm not just talking about the coach distributing the duties, but a point guard that can really distribute the duties, demand the respect and say, This is what's happening on this play right now.
00:26:04
This is what's happening.
00:26:05
I don't care what anybody else thinks.
00:26:07
I am the leader on the floor.
00:26:09
We need that.
00:26:10
Ah, bonified leader on the floor, Not one that's figuring out how to be a leader, not one that just wants to be a leader, a bona fide leader out there on the floor to put everybody in their position, put players and check when they need to be put in, check on, and then that goes into my next.
00:26:30
The next thing Julius Randle is going to be on the team.
00:26:33
He's a talented player, right? He has skill, but he has to be corralled.
00:26:42
And I think if you have the right kind of leader on the floor, you can corral him.
00:26:46
If you're not gonna have the right kind of leader to corral Julius Randle, then you're not going to get from him.
00:26:53
What you expect I thought you might get from him.
00:26:56
It's almost like the same thing with Carmelo Anthony.
00:26:59
Carmelo Anthony had his best years when he was with Chauncey Billups when he was with Jason Kidd.
00:27:03
He had his best years because he had a point guard that he respected a point guard.
00:27:09
That was, you know, that wasn't afraid to let Carmelo Anthony is kind of a quiet dude anyway.
00:27:14
But so, you know, he's like a silent locker room assassin or something like that, you know? So a point guard that's not afraid to get in his face.
00:27:24
Ah, point guard that he respects Ah, point guard that's gonna move him out the way, Do whatever you need to do, um, to make sure that that person stays in check.
00:27:35
Julius Randle needs that if you're not going to provide that than your best bet is to move on from one because you're not doing yourself or him any good.
00:27:44
I mean, where do you find that guy? I don't know.
00:27:48
You know, saying that's probably going to be a veteran guy.
00:27:51
You know what I'm saying? Um and then you need a guy like one or two guys, you know? You know this RJ need a minute tour? I don't know.
00:28:06
RJ Kinda.
00:28:08
He kind of got it.
00:28:09
He's got it. I don't know if he needs a mentor.
00:28:12
I see no posts out there.
00:28:13
But oh, Mellow would be a great mentor for R J.
00:28:15
That I don't know if r j needs a mentor.
00:28:17
Kevin Knox needs a mentor.
00:28:18
Mitchell Robinson needs a mentor.
00:28:20
No, I'm saying I don't know if r j needs a mental, you know? What do you think, Andy? But what? I disagree.
00:28:27
I agree with you.
00:28:28
Uh, no.
00:28:29
No.
00:28:30
I think Argenis Argentines body to practice shooting with so they can just be under, you know, off the training facility and then shoot after hours with a guy that he can hang with and no check back shooting.
00:28:47
And that's the only thing are just gonna need to force couple seasons.
00:28:50
Man, I think he is an Alpha, but he knows his role on the team is not gonna be no surrounding.
00:28:56
You know, Julius Randle on the court.
00:28:59
They can have no making out fights.
00:29:01
But you know words after, you know, going to the locker room or you know, you can have the practices, but he's not gonna cause problems, you know, PR problems, even on the court for the next.
00:29:14
I think he's he's that sad.
00:29:16
So uh huh, Yeah.
00:29:18
So you know, if if you're gonna if you're gonna have RJ Mitch, Frank Randall, you've got I think you've gotta have a veteran point guard that is a good leader out there on the floor.
00:29:34
I think that's going to be a key.
00:29:36
Listen, I still believe that if we had a veteran point guard presence and I'm not talking about Elfrid Payton, but a real veteran point guard presents this year, this team I'm not going to I'm not saying we would have been in the playoffs, but this team would have looked way different.
00:29:50
I really do feel that.
00:29:52
Um, so I guess you know, we're going to see how what the roster construction is like, you know, they brought in guys like Sean McLean and I didn't get a chance to hear from you or Evergreen or what you think on these guys, show McLean, who is a basketball ****yst.
00:30:10
Tom Thibodeau.
00:30:11
If he's hired, he's more of the You know, I see what guys can do.
00:30:16
That's what I'm going with.
00:30:17
Show him clean.
00:30:18
Obviously, he's in the front office.
00:30:19
May not even have to have a lot of contact with Tom Thibodeau.
00:30:22
Um, he's an ****yst type of type of a guy, right? You know, in knows how to set up systems and data and do all those type of things.
00:30:32
What do you think this guy's role is gonna be? How How will? What do you think its role is gonna be and we'll get and we're going to swing back around Tom Thibodeau.
00:30:42
You know what? If there is gonna be the coach, I think this guy's gonna be more working for the future of the next.
00:30:50
So he's gonna be looking out for players that might fit our system, even with David or with anyone else.
00:30:57
But I would see him having a bigger role when we pick a coach like any Atkinson or even Woody or even Jason Kidd.
00:31:09
I know.
00:31:10
I don't Like you said, I think there's a guy that if you show me things in practice and in games with smaller minutes, you're gonna get more playing time.
00:31:19
I don't think it's gonna, you know, see? Okay, you got 5% rebounding the ball where you come from the left, and I'm gonna try to, you know, convert place.
00:31:29
You coming in from the left side, I think it's you're gonna be playing.
00:31:32
Go. You're gonna be playing minutes.
00:31:34
It's not gonna be happening in the bath.
00:31:36
And, you know, when the practices or in the games, you're not gonna get a burn.
00:31:39
Right? So I don't think those ****ytics number is gonna work for for for for thieves.
00:31:45
But, you know, he might changes, You know, perception off the ****ytics a little bit and make something beginning account.
00:31:55
It's gonna be that much more.
00:31:57
I will be sure about big everything for tips.
00:32:02
Let me get to this call.
00:32:03
A real quick call.
00:32:04
What's going on, man? Was spot.
00:32:07
What's going on? The artist formerly known at worldwide You guys got to come up with a name.
00:32:11
Yeah, You do that, man was people gonna think World Wild West is calling into the show and give and give it out secrets.
00:32:20
You know, saying you don't funny thing is, though, but whoever worldwide, where came with me and I had a game high school and graduated high school three.
00:32:29
I mean, when the World Wide Web being out.
00:32:32
But that's another story.
00:32:35
Your black night.
00:32:36
So that would fire relax myself, explode with quiet.
00:32:39
I really appreciated everybody different than opinion that so well appreciated, but it was definitely a crazy crazy show.
00:32:48
A great conversation, though, you know, I'm saying it was a great conversation all the way around sometime.
00:32:54
Conversation.
00:32:55
Just let it flow on my go somewhere else.
00:32:56
But I just want to say one thing for me to get back. Teoh.
00:33:00
I work in a predominantly female industry, right, nursing or whatever.
00:33:06
So I had experienced something that I never thought I would have just recently, that I was on the other end of being ***ually harassed and I had to go to human resource and complaining, and I have to work in the world completely uncomfortable.
00:33:20
Even after I made the complete other women somehow found out.
00:33:24
Well, like she should have never got fired.
00:33:26
And, like, you know, I mean, so you got to be careful, because I would another imagine, like, how available when the shoes on the other foot and then you coming in the old place of work when you they want to get money Feeling completely uncomfortable at the wild feeling, you know, imagine.
00:33:43
But anyway, back to the next.
00:33:45
So now I don't feel I'm I'm not going to take the word of the report even though you'd be better.
00:33:53
Very credible.
00:33:54
I'm not gonna go overboard and get nervous about a, um, signing a bunch of over the over the hill veteran.
00:34:02
You know? I know Tony Crow take credit for being the 1st 1 of mentioned quick cold.
00:34:06
I was the first woman mentioned. Chris. Paul.
00:34:09
I remember you mentioned it, Chris.
00:34:13
Paul to I remember that.
00:34:16
Okay, I'm glad.
00:34:17
I'm glad. I'm glad you without me.
00:34:19
Um, and so now a veteran like Chris pull, I think I think you have to go get Chris.
00:34:26
Paul.
00:34:27
I think you have to one Unless unless you end up with the number one overall pick in the draft.
00:34:31
And even then, you know, I'm not opposed to getting crisp Cool, you know? But we have the sixth pick in the draft, and we're gonna drop Calabrian or one of these other dies.
00:34:42
You know, Chris, Paul, you need a floor, General, like you were saying to tell people you get there, get there, get here.
00:34:48
And not a veteran.
00:34:49
A veteran who has a proven track record on the floor.
00:34:53
Yes, and it still has filled that.
00:34:56
You know what I mean? So I think that that's definitely essential, right? I also think Mitch, like he said, he definitely needs that because he was farmed the veteran leadership, you know, he he's coachable players.
00:35:09
And he listened.
00:35:10
You know, when you have, like, seeing how his game improved under DeAndre Jordan, you've seen how you know under the tutelage of stars, get when he competes, cleaned up, turn areas of his game as the season progressed and that you know that thing being accepted the veteran leadership as far Kevin Knox.
00:35:28
I don't know if Carmelo, as a matter of fact, I don't think Carmelo Anthony is the right veteran.
00:35:34
But Kevin knock.
00:35:35
It's almost the same situation with more.
00:35:38
There's so much better than Kevin knocked right now that they're gonna get the bulk of the minutes and it's gonna progression on the court.
00:35:48
You know, I just think you need somebody who may be more the veteran who's not looking to play as much as minutes more of a defender.
00:35:56
Come in the game to play defense threes, but be ableto mental Kevin Knox and have his game regret, Because I know we disagree on this and you can't just give a player minutes.
00:36:07
But for a player to go complained 30 minutes in one year in their rookie seasons, playing 12 minutes.
00:36:13
Romek here it's like, you know, you're moving backwards as an organization had to play his confidence to right, you know, and injected.
00:36:23
That could make you up for years.
00:36:25
So you know, you gotta really you making investment in the player you can't just throw into the skyline like like what they did.
00:36:31
Was they drafted R.
00:36:33
J.
00:36:34
Barrett? So this this is that dude, the all the attention and everything that Kevin Knocked was getting here before he saw that he saw Barry again and he's human.
00:36:44
He's a 19 year old kid.
00:36:46
I think back to when I was 19 playing against God to 26 of you, 26 30 super old.
00:36:53
You know, you can use your confidence.
00:36:55
You could get lost in the source and you do some place.
00:36:58
Need to be coddled more than others.
00:37:00
But every organization has to show that the player that they drafted, they have affected interests in that player, you know, And he's developed.
00:37:09
And I feel at some point Kevin Knox it felt it that they would no longer fully vested in him.
00:37:17
And he just got to survive this season and like you're on your own type situation instead of them helping him along more.
00:37:24
He did a lot of causes.
00:37:25
My too, but, you know, So I feel you have to be careful with the veterans that you select on the team.
00:37:31
That's gonna be, you know, very important and like your boy, Nicholas said, I know his name.
00:37:36
A nickel, You know, you don't want to get a group of veteran like we did in 2000.
00:37:44
I think 12 win 54 games, 76 of those guys off the team.
00:37:51
Now you're scrambling to replace them.
00:37:52
And you're not going to get back to chemistry or turn.
00:37:54
Guys tire for the final year.
00:37:56
You got guys were injured, You know what I mean? So you do want filled the team with you and at the same time, veteran leadership, Who's gonna help you develop, you know, So you have to do two things at once. You have.
00:38:10
You know, I personally I over me, I will go, Chris, Paul, I think that he can be acquired for a reasonable, reasonable, reasonable right.
00:38:21
You know, I'm gonna go with, um I'm gonna go with dabs birth pangs because he could shoot that three, you know? And he's not gonna be as expensive as a gallon Mary might be.
00:38:31
You know, I'm gonna look trade Julius Randle Im Look at im.
00:38:36
A look at bringing back, um, movie, perhaps, But he's gonna play the backup for, you know, And that's not the three.
00:38:44
I don't have all the answers for the roster construction right now to the institute, but I just got my electronics.
00:38:50
Conveys that you need a mix of youth and veterans, but you don't need veteran toward, you know, not good enough to help you win.
00:38:58
But good enough to pick minutes away from the veteran.
00:39:00
I mean, from the young guys.
00:39:02
Because then you know you're going.
00:39:04
You're not progressing anywhere as a franchise.
00:39:08
Rumor that Mark Jackson or but got the Brooklyn Brooklyn job.
00:39:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:14
And see, I'm not, um, as quick to move on from Randolph.
00:39:19
We could get someone like Chris Paul.
00:39:21
Yes.
00:39:22
I really think Chris Paul can do wonders with Julius Randle out there and helping him to corral his game and utilize its talent.
00:39:29
I think I feel like he would respond to someone like Chris Paul.
00:39:33
If you're not gonna have a veteran point guard like a Chris Paul, then I think you probably should move on because a rookie and a young point guard is not going to get it done with Julius Randle.
00:39:45
My opinion.
00:39:47
You don't know him, Idris. Service.
00:39:49
You're doing team a big disservice.
00:39:51
But if you get Chris Paul, I think it could work.
00:39:56
I don't doubt it.
00:39:57
Hey, play well with David West.
00:39:58
You know, pick and roll plays from a little creek pole.
00:40:01
And I do think that Julius Randle would respond to Coach Thibs because I mean, just on face value.
00:40:08
Julius Randle does have the foundation of being a good packer.
00:40:13
But he had passed well out of the low post, but he can pass better out of the high post.
00:40:19
And you could put him into the same situation that he had, uh, joking, No in and him making decision, you know? And then if nobody, you know covered him up that he could dive to the basket for a layup, But that bar having and bring the ball down court I mean, we call about this early.
00:40:34
They put him in a position to fail.
00:40:36
That was that was craziness.
00:40:38
That was craziness, hearing damage.
00:40:41
I don't know.
00:40:46
I'm just reviewing the games.
00:40:47
I have, like, probably 24 games, states that don't like a stomach.
00:40:52
And I'm watching them over and over.
00:40:54
And I'm saying listening like you said, Julius Randle does have a skill that he does have the ability to be a contributor on a good Pete.
00:41:02
I personally feel like his role as a six man would be so much more suited for him, you know, cause then he can actually even they can't even use them as, ah, primary core, Like as far as the second unit.
00:41:15
You know, that would be like, but you have to have a veteran coach haven't except that role, you know, Especially if you're gonna have a younger dude at the powerful.
00:41:24
Where him coming off the bench, right? He's going like I like kids.
00:41:28
I think he listened from.
00:41:29
I like him, you know, subjecting that, as opposed to, you know, one of the younger, unproven coaches.
00:41:34
So, yeah, you want tea? Quick poll.
00:41:38
And we need ah feel vexed, but we don't want to overdo it.
00:41:41
We still want to develop the young talent, you know, and whatever point guard get and the draft to be able to develop, not to.
00:41:49
Ah, Chris.
00:41:50
Paul leaving two years.
00:41:51
And now we start from scratch.
00:41:53
You know what I mean? Right? Right.
00:41:54
No doubt about it.
00:41:56
A, uh, West.
00:41:57
I appreciate the call man Oldbury Mandel problem? No, I told you later, man, and you know, you know, he talked about and he talked about having the right kind of veteran for heavy knocks.
00:42:15
I think that guy could have been Obviously is not going to be now.
00:42:18
I think that guy could have been Vince Carter.
00:42:21
Vince Carter probably would have been perfect for Kevin Docks.
00:42:24
I said I was.
00:42:25
I was gonna say a couple of names of veterans that I would sign for even more than the Beds minimum just for them to run with the team.
00:42:34
And the first name was Vince Carter.
00:42:37
I don't know.
00:42:38
The second would be probably a Ray Allen type of guy.
00:42:41
He doesn't even have to suit up.
00:42:43
Just practice with the guys.
00:42:45
If we had a guy like Ray Allen discord and stuff like that, they would just be traveling with the team, telling The guys want to do off the court so they don't get in trouble on the court.
00:42:56
They don't have to complain games.
00:42:57
Just sit behind the bench with the guy and say, OK, you see that? That's why he made a mistake.
00:43:02
You gotta do it this way of that way.
00:43:04
That would be perfect thing for them, for our bet.
00:43:06
That doesn't read minutes doesn't take minutes, so the rookies won't be afraid of losing their job.
00:43:13
But they also will fear their respect and, you know, care for the Ford.
00:43:18
What the vets are trying to teach them that That's what makes the chemistry, you know, perfect for 40 teams off course you're gonna have.
00:43:26
Not only that's why, all right, I said, you know, guys over 35 would be perfect for for the next way.
00:43:32
Maybe this wouldn't be.
00:43:33
Have playing them, you know, minutes in the game.
00:43:35
So but the young guy still be playing more, but that those kind of guys will be perfect.
00:43:40
Yeah.
00:43:41
So before I switch over the SportsCastr cause I'm about to switch over in a minute Well, I'm already on SportsCastrs solely on SportsCastr, but we still got a couple more minutes here on you two.
00:43:51
Um, I want to know.
00:43:54
Let's assuming that it's Tom Thibodeau.
00:43:58
Assuming that is Tom Thibodeau.
00:44:00
What players on this team do you think will respond to top Thibodeau? Do you think that he would? I don't want to say take a liking to, But are his kind of players players that we already have? That would be his kind of place.
00:44:16
What do you think? I think the 1st 1 is gonna be RJ than Frank than Mitch.
00:44:22
And that's gonna be one of the core not only for tips, but mainly for tips.
00:44:28
Uh, actually, I'm not sure about Randall, Uh, like, goal traumatically both ways.
00:44:35
He might respond really good, or it might be a disaster.
00:44:39
And he's gonna be the first kind of it to be traded man, because if they was gonna rob in bad on the events and he's not going to like it, that that might be a problem.
00:44:48
But I hope it's gonna work out fine.
00:44:51
But I think I'd rather it was more of a situation that you said that he needs a better point guard like metal head with chances to stuff like that.
00:44:58
And he can no work better if you're laying, you know, all your eggs in Randall's basket, that's a problem.
00:45:04
And we saw what happened, so I don t know before it there also, you know, I think bridgeable lock or I think Ellington is a good guy there, You know, if they're here or not here, I think they were gonna be times guys that off course starts gifts.
00:45:20
And if he's gonna, you know, state, uh, those That's gonna be good.
00:45:24
I don't know about Gigi because, you know, he's a young guy.
00:45:26
We didn't see you can, you know? I don't know, maybe 50 minutes or the whole season.
00:45:30
So I don't know how he's been workout on wear, loved him more mentally.
00:45:35
And how he response all the court.
00:45:38
I hope he wills, uh, you know what? The even going further when we want everyone says that we want a mellow I think in a mellow might be a crash with did as well why not ban out, man? I don't I don't see you know Tibbs looking for, you know, on the mellow, taking those world shots and defenseman that that might be really bad.
00:46:02
But, you know, let's think that before supposed test.
00:46:05
Yeah, that's, you know, with Randall.
00:46:08
I think I think you're exactly right.
00:46:10
It could be a wage, right? It could be that he responds really well.
00:46:16
And the thing about Randall, like defensively, he has the ability.
00:46:20
He has all the ability, the attention.
00:46:25
He's just gotta want to do it on every single play right now.
00:46:29
So then the question like he said is, Does he respond to a coach who was going to demand that he does on every single play and sit him if he doesn't or is he going to, you know, power? I'm saying, you know, that's you know, that's what you know.
00:46:45
Which way is it going to go on? And I don't know if it's gonna be anywhere in the middle with them.
00:46:50
I think it's going to be one way or the other.
00:46:53
I'm saying And Kenny responsible Coach, there's gonna you know, uh, if Tom Thibodeau is gonna be the coach said he is, that's going to come in and write him and, you know, trying to push him to get the best out of himself.
00:47:08
Hey, could Tom Thibodeau could be the guy for it.
00:47:11
But listen, if you're going to do it, you got to make sure you got that veteran point guard there.
00:47:15
You know that in that guy that communicate between the players and and I think I like Coach what he could be a nice in between assistant that can, you know, soften the blow for Yeah, yeah, I think you know what? What do you think? Like what players do you think Tom Thibodeau would? Assuming it's Tom Thibodeau, you know that he's gonna take a license to players that will respond to Tom Thibodeau.
00:47:45
So where you don't like me going to light? Oh, I know licensing for me now.
00:47:52
You could make that.
00:47:54
I think I agree with a lot of what man was just saying.
00:47:59
I'm curious if it is Tibbs, if he ends up holding onto ties based on him coming.
00:48:06
When he went to Minnesota, he tried to do the Bulls two point.
00:48:10
Oh, and now he's coming to New York and we have a formidable entire Gipson.
00:48:16
Yeah, I'm really intrigued, but he's gonna turn him into our new lanes.
00:48:21
Thomas if he's going to use him as a ZA player coach, which is, I think, a role he's fit for, and I think that's that's the most in clearing thing.
00:48:31
I agree that Randall could be either way.
00:48:33
I think Randall's like that because of who we get.
00:48:37
To be honest with you, he's kind of at that point in his career.
00:48:40
It's even what is held Island.
00:48:42
This is when you even make the band or you make the bed right, so he's at that.
00:48:47
He's at that crossroad right now.
00:48:49
Outside of that, the obvious Pixar defensive minded guys like Frank, You know, those are obvious picks, but I'm curious if he's turning over a new leaf.
00:48:58
So I'm wondering that the problem is we already have many offensively dominant players right now.
00:49:03
Outside of maybe r J depend on rt improves.
00:49:06
So I, I think, for the most part, are teaming is very malleable, and he's in a pick up.
00:49:13
Whoever is willing to work hard, more so than anything else.
00:49:17
So obviously guys like R.
00:49:18
J are gonna be a favorite of his.
00:49:20
Um, I worry about people like not that problem showing the intensity.
00:49:26
Um, you know, I really worry for him more than anybody else.
00:49:32
Outside of that, I think you'll like Portis if they decided to keep courting something like Taj.
00:49:36
I think the veteran guys gonna be going his top people.
00:49:39
I think if he evidence tombs, we going to see a lot of what we saw last year.
00:49:43
That's a plane, had a young guys, and right, I feel like that's gonna be a problem if you get too did tips, every court supporters.
00:49:52
No, I don't think so.
00:49:54
Portis was after Tubes, wasn't it last year.
00:49:59
But how long is the supporters in Chicago.
00:50:04
Two years.
00:50:05
Three years? Okay, I feel like he got I thought he got dough.
00:50:08
He was still in his rookie contract after punching.
00:50:10
Oh, boy.
00:50:11
Yeah, I think he was still in his rookie contract.
00:50:13
Um, yeah, he probably will, Like by reporters.
00:50:20
I don't know if the Knicks are going to keep Bobby Portis around because of his contract.
00:50:23
All right, you know, you know, they'd have to pay him $15 million this year.
00:50:32
Hey, you know, if he was if he was on a $1,000,000 contract or something like that, you know, but 15 I don't think they're going to pay a 1,000,000.
00:50:41
And the weird thing is, I kind of like porters like I just for the intensity like we need a garnet tight do that do this, just giving you 100 all the time and don't give a ****.
00:50:55
And you know what? We're kind of missing that he's got a lot of guys who get small when things get rough to eso.
00:51:01
Bobby Portis came this season after Tom Thibodeau left the booth, so I mean, I still think Portis fits his mold, though just from an intensity standpoint, it made sense with what they were trying to do about this, right? Because Julius Randle can't really shoot. Used to four.
00:51:22
Mitchell Robinson can't shoot.
00:51:24
He's a five.
00:51:25
So they have that guy that can play the full order five.
00:51:27
Who could come in for Randall and be the four while Mental Robinson runs to the basket or come in for mental Robinson spread the floor by Randall posts.
00:51:38
Right? It made sense with what they were trying to do with Bobby Portis.
00:51:42
Yeah, they're gonna need another guy like that.
00:51:46
You know, Uh, West was talking about doctors. Batons.
00:51:50
He's another guy that's like that.
00:51:51
Maybe you could shoot it better than by reporters.
00:51:54
Gin.
00:51:56
I see in the image really sad, because the answer to our problems deciding I'm gonna play with us no more.
00:52:06
Who is this one guy who would sit? What we're talking about, Angus? A no names cause who's Martin Chilo? Oh, yeah.
00:52:17
Holds that one.
00:52:18
Do? Yeah, that would be if he would have stayed right now.
00:52:22
I mean, yes, I say it one more time.
00:52:25
Lose my way, right? Exactly.
00:52:28
Everything it would have been.
00:52:30
That guy right there in the middle.
00:52:31
That could do either one, but right.
00:52:35
Any what it took, he would have been able to stay entirely because we have been, you know, R J would have been doing more.
00:52:40
He would have been able to just play the backward like he's doing over there, right? Yeah, his hair out.
00:52:49
I'm surprised he hasn't not to get in yet.
00:52:52
You come in. You coming? Don't worry.
00:52:54
I'm going to keep talking about you're supposed to ball pull.
00:52:57
Think it, Um, A as far as a coaching staff.
00:53:08
What? What what kind of coaching staff did we gotta put with, um, with Tom Thibodeau? It is seeming like that said, you know, let's, you know, in Beijing before them, so he doesn't have any definite information, but its sources that used to be pretty good is usually a pretty good source.
00:53:23
And from what he said, I heard.
00:53:25
I mean, Kenny Atkinson, you know, we thought Kenny act assumed was going to be right there, and it makes you haven't really heard much about Kenny Atkinson.
00:53:32
I don't even know if he's had an interview.
00:53:34
We heard about Mike Woodson having an interview.
00:53:37
You know, somebody's other guys who have only been assistance.
00:53:42
The Wild.
00:53:43
A career I feel like with Hawaii.
00:53:47
Obscene interviews with Besides Jason Cade, you're setting up a.
00:53:55
He is setting up the assistant coaches for Tom Thibodeau.
00:54:00
I feel like you know, I'm timid.
00:54:02
Old Mike Woodson.
00:54:03
You had to learn guy from Chicago.
00:54:05
I forgot his name of Fleming.
00:54:07
Chris Fleming, who? You know, he's really only been an assistant, you know, you know, feels like maybe you're setting up Tom Thibodeau in his assistance.
00:54:17
No.
00:54:18
What do you think, Andy? Who's would you bring in? Or who do you think Tom Thibodeau would choose as his assistant coaches? Yeah, exactly like you said.
00:54:29
You know what? I was even talking.
00:54:30
Take it thinking about the female doctor guy from from Spurs.
00:54:35
I'm thinking if he is in a position to go straight after, ah head coaching job or just t know move out off the Spurs organization so he can have a bigger chance to take over a team after being, you know, a lead assistant.
00:54:53
I was thinking about it because, you know, I think he's a head coaching candidate on this point.
00:54:59
I was thinking, you know, moving and dispersed organization.
00:55:03
They're gonna have someone before him if off retires, right? So I'm thinking for his career path, he would choose another organization as an assistant, maybe as a leader systems and then try to, you know, skip over.
00:55:17
So are taking a job with Tibbs Might be the way to go.
00:55:22
You? Yeah.
00:55:25
Um you know, I'm hoping, uh, this is what Rob Petitto said.
00:55:29
Uh, I mean, Do co could be a good lead assistant for Tibbs.
00:55:34
Well, I think I think that, you know, you're going to need the guy, you know, He's a screamer, right? Tips is a screamer.
00:55:41
Look, listen, I coach, you guys know, of course, you right? And it was just this team foam from Boston.
00:55:49
You know, this sponsored by Adidas.
00:55:53
Great team.
00:55:54
They're great team.
00:55:55
But their coach You talk about a screamer and he remind me a time Thibodeau a little bit.
00:56:04
Eddie, when I tell you this guy, his team will be on offense.
00:56:08
He's screaming every single plate and he's standing five feet out onto the court.
00:56:17
Every single play, his team is down at the other end of the court.
00:56:21
He's out by half court almost yelling, screaming face to the red corners, kid Idiots.
00:56:28
It all kinds of stuff.
00:56:29
I'm looking at him like you know what's going on.
00:56:33
This I don't want to say the name of the of the of the au, you know, and put him out there like that.
00:56:39
But, you know, you can look it up, are huge AU team from Boston.
00:56:46
I mean, you know, they're really, really good, But crazy face right is a apple.
00:56:52
It was kind of like top typical.
00:56:54
I played for a coach like that to man.
00:56:57
When we were on defense, he was, like, understands, going like, you know, hands up, ends up.
00:57:01
You know, he was crazy, and we were going to the championship game said, You know, this, Like, pedophiles can think that they had a newspaper for the second today, right? And she was on the front, you know, page, like in his stance.
00:57:13
And they're, you know, everybody was laughing at the guy, but, you know, he was, you know, like, working with us on the court, man.
00:57:21
Yeah.
00:57:22
And, um, you know, that's tips, you know? So you're gonna need somebody that could go out there and kind of smooth things over for tips and let since that tips being theme bad guy in that coach come in and put his arm around the shoulders.
00:57:36
I don't think David Croasdale it was opposite and that's the wrong way of my pain.
00:57:42
With David Fizdale, I felt like he wanted to be the good guy while he sent quite, you know, he sent other people out there to tell players they're not going to start.
00:57:53
You know, I'm saying Oh, or do the discipline and that's not the way it should go right, because when it all comes down to it, you gotta listen to the head coach.
00:58:01
That's the guy that you know, sets the standards.
00:58:04
And if you head coach is the guy that is being buddy buddy, when it comes time for him to set standards, people are gonna last round right, you know me.
00:58:16
So I think you know he's going to need a guy that could kind of smooth things over Ah, when it's necessary.
00:58:23
You know, I think Woodson could be a good guy like that.
00:58:26
You know me, and I'm sure there's plenty of the people out there he's gonna have his choice.
00:58:30
But look, I am going to We're heading over The SportsCastr.
00:58:35
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00:58:45
And we're talking about your ideal all season.
00:58:48
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SportsCastr talk about the ideal off season because all season is coming up in a couple of months in October.
00:59:39
I guess this is the off season, but the free agency and the draft and all of that's coming up in October.
00:59:45
Eso you know, we're gonna talk about what's ideal and big shout out to Mahdi next, thinking for the Super Chapman.
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01:00:21
Now, ladies and gentlemen, I start with you need What's up? What's your idea? Off season ideal offseason be all season in the context that we have.
01:00:34
Tom Thibodeau is our head coach.
01:00:38
Okay, Ideal off season.
01:00:42
Do you think about this for a sec? Okay, so we talking like signings and draft picks Never we're talking about.
01:00:49
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what's up.
01:00:50
You know, coaching your coaching staff.
01:00:54
Signings, draft pigs.
01:00:56
What job? Context? That.
01:01:00
Yeah, that Tim's tip.
01:01:02
It'll be the coach.
01:01:05
Um, we would have Kinney, Akkus, Stan and Woodson as assistance.
01:01:12
Um, let's see.
01:01:15
Free agent Kenny Atkinson.
01:01:19
You think I'm going on? I'm going on The preference said if he doesn't get a job, if he doesn't get a job that he would take the next job.
01:01:28
Kind of like the Jason Kid Frank Vogel situation.
01:01:30
How they're kind of Jason Kidd wants a second chance at coaching.
01:01:33
And maybe you need to be an assistant for a little bit before they get a chip shot.
01:01:37
A head coach, I think.
01:01:39
I think Kenny Atkinson would mind being assistant for a year.
01:01:41
And then if that goes well, we could You could use that is like a I was an assistant, you know? We did better.
01:01:47
And so should army for head coach.
01:01:51
Mm.
01:01:52
Uh, my kind of say you have the ideal situations on the sound of my deal is okay.
01:01:58
Andre XT a SportsCastr's job.
01:02:00
He said, Are you paying Kenny like a head coach as an assistant? Are you? You know what kind of sound? Bite me.
01:02:08
The sea.
01:02:09
Probably right behind its.
01:02:12
Like your I don't know how they pay structure these coaches.
01:02:17
I'm making my second highest state assistant or her the highest paid assistant on the SATs.
01:02:22
Okay, um, I would sign Fred Vanvleet in this visit free agent because I like him.
01:02:31
I like his demeanor.
01:02:32
I like his toughness.
01:02:33
I think he would fit perfectly what Thibodeau wants in the point guard on the guys.
01:02:38
Kind of fearless.
01:02:39
He's not.
01:02:40
He's not too tall, but he plays bigger than his size and he'd be the big shot maker, which we need those kind of guys in clutch times.
01:02:49
Um, I would draft Lemelle when I'm a pall French.
01:02:53
I can't do that first century.
01:02:54
Probably I would get Obie Topping because we need, But we definitely need shooters on this team.
01:03:01
Um, I don't know, man.
01:03:04
I mean, uh, those would be my those would be my my decisions.
01:03:08
I probably I probably would bring back Reggie Bullock and I try to bring back Taj Gibson because I think Reggie Bullock is a guy who can guard multiple defenses, positions.
01:03:20
Taj Gibson, Like the guy was saying earlier, he's an extension of the coach.
01:03:24
So I think you need to have a player like that like a Lance Thomas.
01:03:27
And I think he could still play stop.
01:03:29
He's not a bad player by no means, um and I would actually I actually think that you're probably gonna have to bring that girl for Peyton, because I just don't think he is.
01:03:38
J is gonna mess with Tom Thibodeau.
01:03:42
I just I don't see him buying into defensive mentality.
01:03:46
You know, I think he's kind of a two year olds.
01:03:49
I don't know, I don't know.
01:03:51
I mean, we've seen times where he's played very well defensively, right? Talk about Dennis Smith Jr.
01:03:57
We've seen times where he's played very well and he can play Wait seven, still five years.
01:04:05
And I just think Elford Peyton is going to be probably more on Tibbs level because he already kind of plays defense, not saying he's the greatest defender.
01:04:13
But if you're comparing him to ts j at the I think tips probably trust Elfrid Payton more than trust the SJ on defense.
01:04:24
No, I'm even though you say Stop the ceiling.
01:04:28
It's hard to make any time real concrete criticisms on Dennis Smith Jr based on last season.
01:04:34
Oh, yeah, I'm just saying, from what I've seen from others, from it with him and other coaches is not a big defender.
01:04:40
I mean, he I mean, I just think if you're looking at defense, I think paid he's gonna buy into tips defensives system more so than Elfrid Payton early on.
01:04:50
But what I'm hoping about Dennis Smith Jr You know, especially with the way things went last year.
01:04:55
I'm hoping that he's at a point in his career early in his career, which could be very good for him early in his career, where he sees that he's not going to get by on just talent alone.
01:05:07
You know, not that he wasn't a hard worker before, but you know that he's really gotta work on this skill on fundamental with fundamental, fundamental skills and fundamentals that is not going to get by on talent alone.
01:05:19
Uh, I'm hoping that he's been humbled a little bit, you know.
01:05:22
He traded, traded from Dallas, comes to the next biggest.
01:05:26
He's going to be a starting point guard.
01:05:28
Next thing you know, he's on the end of the bench.
01:05:30
You know, I'm saying, I'm hoping that maybe he takes this and he's like, You know what? I got to get it together and then, you know, looking at the season, just looking at it season, you know, he had a death of a stepmother on, then this season is snatched away from you.
01:05:51
You know, when you're trying to come back and prove that you belong and you have a roster spot, you know that you need to have a roster spot, that you belong on this team or belong in the N B A and then the rest of the season.
01:06:03
It's passed away from you with Kobe 19.
01:06:05
I'm I'm really hoping that something just charging this says, Yo, uh, you know, this is it.
01:06:12
I really got it.
01:06:13
I really got to go out there and get it.
01:06:14
It's got have a chip on the shoulder.
01:06:16
Yeah, you know, And you know he might need I don't know.
01:06:21
I mean, I guess you say that about every player, But maybe Tom Citadel can reach him.
01:06:26
I don't know.
01:06:27
It's gonna be hard to say.
01:06:28
I do think Dennis Smith Jr could be a really good defender if he wants to.
01:06:33
This times why I've seen him defend when he's really motivated.
01:06:39
Like when he's going up against it.
01:06:40
The air on Fox, you know, saying Hey, kids get really motivated and really play and really play defense.
01:06:49
It was just, you know, can't came someone like Tom Thibodeau.
01:06:52
Get him to do it all the time.
01:06:53
As far as Elfrid Payton.
01:06:54
Yeah, he plays defense.
01:06:56
Naturally, Um, I don't know if he's ever going to be a good shooter.
01:07:00
Dennis Miller Jr wasn't really a good shooter, either.
01:07:03
Uh, who ever worked with him over the summer? I think maybe shot a little bit worse, but oh, smart.
01:07:11
He's smart.
01:07:12
Yeah, that's right.
01:07:13
Keith Smart made a terrible beds.
01:07:19
Well, e don't know what tactics Keith Smart use makers came back.
01:07:28
Whatever you do.
01:07:29
Yeah, Dennis Jr.
01:07:31
Thinking you could shoot E.
01:07:37
I think that was the strategy.
01:07:38
I'm just get to believe work, right? That was that right? I'm I'm put it like this when it comes down to it now for like, a lot of these coaches, they get over based on the talent of the players, and that's that's not maybe so.
01:07:54
I'm really not excited about them bringing tips in here and show me nothing.
01:07:58
You got the Minnesota any trying to get the band back together.
01:08:01
It didn't work.
01:08:02
And now he's gonna come over here.
01:08:04
And he's still riding off for the success he had when he had a potentially game changing player when he had Derrick Brooks.
01:08:12
His entire career is built off with Derrick Rose and Jimmy Butler.
01:08:17
Oh, you know, after Rose's declined, gave him that amalgamation of players made to will look like this amazing coach.
01:08:25
And I'm still not convinced that he's really that amazing of a coach.
01:08:29
E.
01:08:30
Feel like these guys get lucky, Get players that can execute, and it makes it easier.
01:08:34
When I was telling, oddly enough, I was telling my wife yesterday.
01:08:38
Steve Kerr is a prime example of this phenomenon.
01:08:41
He came into a team that had talent out the wise do, and he wrote it to three championship.
01:08:47
Ah, Coach of the Year award.
01:08:48
Right now it's OK.
01:08:50
You look at going to state this year and it's like what happened and everyone's like over there who got hurt and everybody's this And it was that.
01:08:57
Okay, those of the points when the coach, if you're the coach of the year, if you are the best coach in the league, you're supposed to be able to say O K, fellas, this is what we're gonna do and coach these guys to a winning record.
01:09:09
You They had enough talent to be at least watchable.
01:09:14
They weren't even watchable.
01:09:16
So what? What? Where is the real value these guys, The players got a wanted man, and that's really what it boils down to.
01:09:23
So big.
01:09:24
Bring tubes and merry men in here and it will make a difference if r.
01:09:28
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01:09:29
Barrett there's a competitive Mitchell ravenous Proxim.
01:09:31
That's I'm it.
01:09:33
Now it's I definitely agree because, you know, even looking at just looking at so many coaches, we always thought we talked about this last night a little bit.
01:09:40
We always talk about, you know, this coach work, this player, Johannes Luca and those guys going to develop and become great anyway, you know, this is the final hopes that took the guy, you know.
01:09:52
He was the 15th man on the bench and helped him become a rotational player.
01:09:57
Exact.
01:09:58
That's the guy that you know, could really quick, like Miller, you know, And I you know, and I think Mike Miller is definitely going to be on the staff.
01:10:08
I don't think that I think Tom Thibodeau is going to be the coach.
01:10:11
He's definitely going to be on the staff now.
01:10:13
We'll see how much you know what it is they needed to give my noted that job.
01:10:22
He deserved it.
01:10:24
He was the coach.
01:10:25
We need culture, any planets and and he might listen to.
01:10:31
They bring it stop. Thibodeau.
01:10:33
I know he has a relationship with World Wide West in Leon roles.
01:10:39
I could see it going sour.
01:10:40
And then Mike Miller stepping up getting the job.
01:10:42
Or unless they bring in Woodson to If they bring in a veteran coach like Woodson, the name I elevate Watson.
01:10:48
But if it's Mike Miller, I could see him step.
01:10:53
You know, him being there, waiting in the wings t step up and get that job.
01:10:59
But I definitely think it's going to be at least part of the coaching staff, you know? Yeah, actually that Yeah, I e you know, Hey, you know, I don't I don't disagree.
01:11:13
I, you know, I would have had no problems if Mike Miller would have been hired as the head coach.
01:11:18
I think that is in reality, that is the best move.
01:11:21
Our team? Yeah, they think I was gonna happen, but it really is the best move.
01:11:27
We need a uncertain and coach that is familiar with the players that that knows how to develop them.
01:11:33
And he has proven.
01:11:34
See, the thing is You've got to remember that Mike Miller coached at small schools.
01:11:39
He coached in the G League, and these are all players, places where the players, you get players, you get right, you have to work with you.
01:11:47
But you get.
01:11:48
It's not like coaching in the NBA.
01:11:49
Players are moving around constantly.
01:11:51
You give me what you get and you deal with it.
01:11:53
And he proved that he was able to take that and be successful not only in winning games but in getting the players to be better.
01:12:00
So I don't even understand why they waste time talking anyone else.
01:12:04
It became in and showed that he could win with the BS.
01:12:07
Roger and they put together he actually had is looking like some kind of a team fugitive.
01:12:15
Last 17 games where we 89 or 19 8 in the last 17 games, something like that like that.
01:12:21
I watched last 17 games so many times that they just go toe to the last games.
01:12:28
I think you still got a kind of about like four or five games when we definitely saw someone from the for office say something to Miller to play some other guys as we saw crazy rotations in the last couple of games.
01:12:42
I remember.
01:12:43
She's okay.
01:12:44
He had a central station, and we know we're having a pair of, you know, looking team on the court.
01:12:50
And then just like no.
01:12:52
45 games before cold it happened.
01:12:55
And it was I was like, Why is he changing? You know, dissertation or putting this guy with these guys, and I'm like, That's crazy.
01:13:04
But, you know, I think that there was some pressure from the front office then.
01:13:07
No, it just just just changing.
01:13:09
Maybe, you know, for someone you know, stumbled off the the the guy for trade or something like that.
01:13:17
God, Yeah.
01:13:18
And that that definitely could.
01:13:20
Oh, yeah, I know.
01:13:31
I had to come in because he was talking crazy.
01:13:37
I was at work.
01:13:38
I was What? Glenn didn't.
01:13:40
They said it was that crazy, horrible critics.
01:13:46
It was a weapon prediction.
01:13:48
Hey, say what? You know what is your ideal off season? That's not a prediction, Hypotheticals, But this is my Richman.
01:13:58
You know, I saw what I What's your ideal offseason? Johannes Michael Jordan and not great.
01:14:09
So 80 man, meet Amy gonna have a great show.
01:14:13
Old man is gonna be so we hear this every single week way.
01:14:21
Think meeting you have a great show is gonna be amazing.
01:14:28
Man is gonna be the Andy and I sing it so and you tell me you didn't really agree to this todo move my desk around the rooms like I'm like, man, did you already signed the contract? You know, you already signed.
01:14:47
He's on death records, but but to me, a realistic thing.
01:14:57
This is assuming that time Thibodeau's to coach.
01:14:59
So simple.
01:15:00
Time cools approach.
01:15:02
What's your policies? Yeah.
01:15:04
So, to me, Kenny wouldn't take a It's just a coaching job because I think, let's say, if the king on on both fire either, whatever I do what I do today from Chicago or if they find him, which looks like it's most likely, uh, hey, look, I think many would take That's up.
01:15:26
I don't leave the coach.
01:15:28
I'm like, I was saying last night on the show if we don't really know that many offensive go rooms to the assistant coach.
01:15:36
But I know like we talked about the last night about it being I know, I know.
01:15:39
Last time I talked about it.
01:15:40
Trump number has to be the, uh, final voice, but I would like that that control some good offensive schemes like, you know, but like a like a like a like a six winner, Right? The text winters.
01:15:54
But that guy from Chicago, Chris Fleming, is supposed to be an offensive architect.
01:16:00
Sports is supposed to be that kind of a guy.
01:16:04
So let's say we get a guy like Dad.
01:16:05
This is the head coach.
01:16:07
I would still would want Mike Woodson to be on the coach.
01:16:11
Oh, and another thing is, we get the Spurs shooting Coats.
01:16:17
I would really want that guy to be a shooting coach with the Knicks.
01:16:21
Have you figured out that guy's name yet? He said that I had a job like I was just trying to figure out who they dio needed.
01:16:32
Uh, hey, Andy, what about you, man? What? We'll go.
01:16:44
We'll take a break from Isaiah's Ideo Dio season.
01:16:51
Oh, for me, man, we gotta figure out the point guard situation order.
01:16:56
We're gonna know draft a guy which I think with me.
01:17:00
It's not the best idea.
01:17:03
I think we're going to need a better point guard here.
01:17:06
And this is the place where we would have to trade for one.
01:17:11
No, like Quiz Bowl or we would have to sign a guy.
01:17:16
But the only guy that I see maybe on the point guard list that would have any sense as a sign of the free agent actually might be friend Brantly because he has the championship, he might have No, the respect, the command for the guys, Um, order than that.
01:17:36
I don't see assigning the guy like a late bent, right? Like a 14 15 year old bed to be our starting point parks in the current endia.
01:17:46
As long as you know the other positions go.
01:17:48
You can ride a guy like that for a couple of minutes on the court.
01:17:51
I don't think you've been signed a guy like Rajan around it could be your starting point talk.
01:17:56
You know what, This these days, no, away from me.
01:17:59
And that's why I don't feel the lamentable connection when we're gonna sign this.
01:18:06
I would be afraid about that unless we're gonna sign a huge shooting guard that can take sometimes their responsibilities of a point guard, which could be also like a guy like true holiday.
01:18:19
But we would have to trade for a guy like that, that will be one of the, you know, good guys that, you know, I would try to go after, Um I'm also not sure about baby.
01:18:31
Been trying trance off.
01:18:33
You know, with this, unless we are moving knocks for me and Dave's eyes, those are gonna be basically the same guys they can play on offense.
01:18:46
Not much on defense, No bullfight kind of young because I don't think you can, you know, call sign bear trances as another pent.
01:18:55
Guess he's 20 couple of years old.
01:18:58
Um, also, I think he's gonna try to push for Gibson to stay with Mitch or sign.
01:19:07
You know, a guy like you 100 orders that they're signing for us, and I would like him back, but I think he's gonna push for four times to stay.
01:19:18
And that aspect also, I would see they're looking for an assistant where we can go back to the assistant coaches for a guy like a Tony Allen type, that guy that played defense like we have royal, I'd be right on the coaching squad.
01:19:33
He was a player, but he was no completely five or six years and then be right.
01:19:37
So I don't think the guys are going to look up to a guy that much.
01:19:42
You know, comparing that will be in something, you know, way different than than the Royal Ivey.
01:19:49
And I think this is gonna have a former player on his assistant squad.
01:19:54
E think that's that's the most for for tips as well.
01:19:58
Yes, you know, with the guys, I don't know.
01:20:01
I think we're gonna, as you know, stay in and keep Bullock on the team and Dodge.
01:20:07
I think that's going to get a couple of minutes of burn with Tibbs.
01:20:12
And that might be also the same project that, like Randall, right? If he's done, you know, And I was gonna be no huge.
01:20:20
If it's not gonna ban out, it's gonna be a disaster.
01:20:23
And we're gonna Barry, no Knox's career or just gonna have to trade and really fast, Right? And I think with Julius Randle, um, I'm all for giving him into giving it until the trade deadline.
01:20:39
Right? You know, see if it's gonna pan out, see if they can, you know, if they can.
01:20:44
You know carom is his skills and use it the right way.
01:20:49
Um, you know, find a way to carve out that's been moved.
01:20:56
You know, if you can find a way to carve out that spin move, you know, maybe someone told lobotomy.
01:21:01
You know, man, you know about that with that spin move is like, he practiced and practiced and practiced it, right? And so then it came, but he would use it.
01:21:10
There were times when I'm looking.
01:21:12
I'm like, Okay, you had to spend to the baseline.
01:21:14
Now you can spend you gotta open layup, right? He used to spend at all the wrong time that I was like, you know? So, you know, maybe they find a way to get that thing out of his repertoire.
01:21:26
You know, I don't know why that happened, because he was practicing one on one the whole off season, man.
01:21:31
Right? Right.
01:21:32
Then eight more guys on the court and that's not Boston to do.
01:21:35
You know how blame for him have been ridiculously the signature spin turnover? I blame Anthony Davis.
01:21:43
Anthony Davis.
01:21:45
I blame Anthony Davis because he does that.
01:21:48
Correct, Because he spent all the time next.
01:21:50
Anthony Davis and I saw situation was just like, Well, when he was just saying he pregnant.
01:21:55
He does.
01:21:56
He used to do that in doing these, but it worked with one defender.
01:22:00
Try that in New York, and he's got all the designers.
01:22:02
Right, Right, right, right. Yeah.
01:22:05
Yeah.
01:22:06
But, um yeah, I think so.
01:22:10
Yeah.
01:22:11
I'd give it to, you know, give it to the deadline.
01:22:13
If it's working and you say OK, you know, we can make this work.
01:22:16
If not, then that would be the perfect time to trade him.
01:22:19
Because if you trade on, the team can choose to, you know, wave from June of 2021 they could choose the wave them get from under his contract.
01:22:30
Could that be the perfect time to move on first for something else.
01:22:34
But if it works and you're like, you know what, you know this is working.
01:22:38
You know that it's working.
01:22:39
I do. I agree.
01:22:41
I think I know.
01:22:42
You know, we're all on point guards in the draft, and I don't mind getting a point guard, but I really feel like if you're gonna have Tom Thibodeau, you should have a veteran point guard out there that's going to be able to run.
01:22:54
If you're gonna have time sipping on Julius Randle in a veteran point guard, that's gonna help you run the ship, then you know, I wouldn't mind.
01:23:03
I really wouldn't.
01:23:04
I really would not Mind if you had a veteran point guard like a Chris Paul? Oh, whoever.
01:23:12
I don't know who else is out there that you can get that, you know, maybe it's cheaper.
01:23:16
I mean, obviously with Chris, Paul, you got to trade forward or whatever.
01:23:19
But if you have a veteran point guard and you can get a Carol Lewis Acidic Bay and the draft, I would be happy with that.
01:23:26
Because then you got your veteran.
01:23:27
You've got a young guy.
01:23:28
The hopefully you're grooming to take that veteran role you got.
01:23:31
Ah, a guy that can, you know, play the three that you can play some defense.
01:23:38
He can bang a little bit.
01:23:39
He can shoot the three, you know, spread the Florence at bay.
01:23:43
Ah, and then I know all season, you know, picking up If you found your veteran point guard and then picking up players that can shoot and play defense.
01:23:54
Like shooting.
01:23:56
If you could still have Julius Randle and Mitch at that four in five, shooting from other areas is going to be so, so critical.
01:24:04
You mean, like consistent shooting? Not guys that well, you know, he can almost make it.
01:24:09
You know, he might be there in a couple of years.
01:24:10
Like, if you want to be, um you know, at least competitive next year, guys, that can shoot.
01:24:17
And you can find these guys without a lot of money.
01:24:19
Right? Fine.
01:24:20
You know, some guys around him that can shoot the ball, You know, I'd be happy with that.
01:24:25
I'll be happy with it.
01:24:28
Look, guys, and I say I'm sorry.
01:24:31
Verizon took over.
01:24:32
Hey, what was going on? Teoh? No, no.
01:24:36
You like you Wait, Wait, That's good.
01:24:41
That's good. Customer service.
01:24:43
You have good customer service. That's okay.
01:24:45
No one young like I don't want talk about it, But I gotta head off now.
01:24:53
But I just got I just minutes what I wanted to say Bad ahead off.
01:24:57
You got a good on the on the Isaiah and Andy Show.
01:25:00
Hey, I like that a little.
01:25:02
A little white.
01:25:03
That's an anti show because I really gotta head off.
01:25:06
I got another way to Tokyo.
01:25:08
Number handy? Yeah, maybe.
01:25:12
Yeah, way.
01:25:23
But I'm gonna say this week Loved.
01:25:25
I'm going on Sunday talking about Arjun Barrett and they disrespected he's getting and how he's gonna be a future superstar Six oclock on Sunday 600 they all sportscast everybody.
01:25:40
But if we have a coach I know since that he's gonna go and we find out the Colts Little big bro.
01:25:48
Hey, it is a gentleman, man.
01:25:54
I gotta go get to this next me and I appreciate you guys particular time out today.
01:25:59
Safe man.
01:26:00
Have a great weekend.
01:26:01
And if we get a coaching higher than I would jump on it.
01:26:04
Talk about man way beyond six.
01:26:09
I will see you guys later on.
01:26:16
Be peaceful.
01:26:17
And I am out here
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Knicks Weekly | If it's Tom Thibodeau, how do the Knicks proceed?

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Simeon Russell @SimeonRussell

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my legs, friends and family.
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What's popping with you? It is your man.
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It is your boy.
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And we've got to go ahead and get this thing started with another episode of next weekly.
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I got my man and they appear in the chat who was recovered from last night's episode.
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You watched last night's episode.
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The last hour was explosive.
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Probably go watch the last hour.
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And it wasn't even about the New York Knicks.
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You should go check that episode out.
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It's good episode.
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It was funny, you know, we have people storming off the set and everything, and we need to get my guy over here.
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And he was going on with you, man.
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How you feeling? You know what I said? What I'm saying? What, Up to chat? Yeah, like you said, man, you know, rubbed off the dust, the burns from last night.
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So both like Yeah, man, it was It was It was a fun one.
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It was funny.
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And it was fun.
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Exactly, Exactly funny.
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And it was fun.
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So listen, ladies and gentlemen, today, um, I'm to start off the show by listening to something from Ian Bagley and then from there you know, we're gonna get into, uh, just assuming that Tom Thibodeau is the coats.
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We can assume that Tom Thibodeau was the coach.
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There's what any bigly say makes sense is far how Leon Rolls plans to play and you'll hear it.
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And if he is the coach, how do we proceed with bringing in more coaches? How will the players you know, the players that we have? What do you think he'll feel about the players that we have? Right? So that's, you know, that's what we're going to get into today.
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And then later, Ron.
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Not later.
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Wrong, but specifically on SportsCastr.
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We're going to talk about what is your ideal offseason.
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So if you're not on SportsCastr, you need to join us on SportsCastr, you need to follow on sportscast because we have an entire NBK network where some of your favorite people that saying the panel doing shows all in one location, So you need to come check it out before we even get that started.
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Man, Let's just take a listen to Iain Begg Lee and what he had to say about a two minute video, not a video two minutes clip on what he had to say about the New York Knicks and what the roster could look like or who might be playing on the floor.
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I said, Let's take a listen.
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P N New York Tonight podcast with Larry Hardisty on 98.
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7 ESPN.
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Yes, I know it's ESPN, guys.
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We bring in one of my favorite guys, a guy who I was toiled side by side in the Nick locker room for a number of years when he was with ESPN.
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Now he is doing the same great work with us and why he's in Bigly, who covers the MBA and the Knicks and Nets locally in Bagley.
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Welcome, my friend.
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How are you, Larry? What's happening, man? How are you? I'm doing great.
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Thank you, Everybody safe at home.
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Thank you, Everybody say thank you, sir.
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Um, big.
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We got a lot to talk about.
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I want to talk about the bubble.
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I want talk about Florida.
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Won't talk about the Nets, but I got to start with the Knicks.
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Are our old tag team group.
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Um, way have fun in that locker we should did way.
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Probably had Well, the best time we have was trying to take bets on how long it would take Carmelo to come out way also.
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But we also had fun up a training camp because you you were sparring with the number of the other reporters.
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There was one day we're gonna one day we'll just sit down, bring in the studio, we'll we'll give people life as as as it is to be in bigly.
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Let those spars with the writer happening today.
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Really probably worse now because, you know, they're looking to differently.
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I e cat I can imagine.
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I can imagine I could imagine eggs.
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The Knicks have seven 159 coaching candidates when they when are they going to whittled it down to maybe three? Well, when is your interview? Are you gonna interview? No, no, no.
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I didn't make the first.
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Well, listen, some have had two or three interviews.
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I need to get the 1st 1 so I'm obviously not on the list.
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So as you know what they did, Actually, I think everybody actually gotten the same amount of interviews.
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What? They didn't They a 30 minute short intro conversation over Zoom.
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What? The candidates and then they followed up and had a more formal conversation with the candidates at Bologna. They're done.
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I think they finished, you know, not late last week in a meeting today the but I think they are done with all the candidates that have been reported on.
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So I don't know if they're gonna have another round of guys who are we be crude unquote finalists.
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But they have had their full conversations with everybody who has been reported as a candidate, and the audience loves Mark Jackson and they love Jeff Van Gundy and I didn't see either off their names mentioned as part of the folks who were in the running.
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And I know everybody's name has not been mentioned, but I did not see their names mentioned, and it's interesting.
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These these two guys don't seem.
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Especially Mark Jackson doesn't seem to be in the running for head coaching jobs lately.
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You know, I think he will be in the running for the net job.
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I think he in town, though, would be in the running over there.
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Maybe Jason Kidd and I think Jason Kidd, also if Houston opens up, will be in the running there.
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But with Mark Jackson, I think he'll be in the running over there.
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My guess what? The Knicks waas Since they didn't view him as a serious candidate for the head coaching position.
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I don't think they wanted to.
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You know they may be disrespect him by bringing him in for an interview for a job that they didn't really view him as a serious person for.
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And I probably don't want, like, have the fan base getting treated, knowing that, you know, he wasn't seriously and it's probably to avoid all that may be the same thing with Jeff.
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They decided not to bring those to infer formal for the formal interview process.
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But I do think Mark will be in the mix in Brooklyn because Kevin Durant, I think, is a fan during manager climbing. Essential.
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Is there reason to believe that? Mark? Whoa, whoa, Get interviews with the mess.
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And is this Nick job tips to lose? I've been told that, you know, for weeks now haven't heard anything that leads me to believe otherwise.
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You know they're still hurdles to get over here, even if you have done, if you're through the interview process, you stopped to negotiate a contract, and they still bring the coach to me with the owner, seniors and final sign off.
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And so we're not there.
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Get that.
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I have anything until the middle believe that tip is not the odds on favorite, and I think any Atkinson has let **** internal support.
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But alone here it has been taking a big toe.
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Lose now.
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And they were talking to Ian Bigly, basketball ****yst for S and Y on Carlin.
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Harder seeing for Carlin here on 98 7 ESPN And we know you know the room.
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You know, the reputation that Tom Thibodeau has.
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Everybody's read about it.
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Everybody knows you potentially have a young basketball team here, and the rumor is around that he doesn't do well with young players.
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See what happened in Minnesota, you know, and then, with the veteran Derrick Rose was complaining about practicing in Chicago.
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I also know that he that circled the MBA and watched other coaches and how they ran their programs in their practices.
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Are we looking? Possibly if he is the new head coach of the Knicks, is he going to be a different Tom Thibodeau than what we've known them to be? I think there will be tweets.
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You know, I think there will be, um you know, different ways that he approaches, practice different ways and maybe approaches minutes would be different ways that he, uh, collaborates with different parts.
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That organization, because of his test express, thinking he was open about talking about what he had learned from his visit, the referenced, particularly to the Clippers and Doc Rivers And how the Clippers handles practices.
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You know, sitting veterans are giving bettering the later day having the younger guys go, you know, between games and those practice days.
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And I think that you will see some modifications.
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And with regard to what happened in Chicago, you know, he clashed with the front office.
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I don't think that's gonna be issues in New York because of his release. Chip with Leon.
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Rose has really stooped with willing Wesley Worldwide West.
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You know, these are going stealing relationships, so I don't think there's gonna be friction there you saw in Chicago, Minnesota.
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He was the president and head coach in New York.
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If you get tired, he's just a little coach.
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He's not gonna be dealing with the duties of GM president, So that's a different scenario as well.
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In what path do you think from your reporting, this Knick team is going to take a Sfar.
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US.
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Personnel.
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Is it going to be predominantly through the draft? Or because Leon Roses here? Because, as you mentioned, the World wide West is here.
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Are they going to try again to dip into the free agent market, which he and let's face it, it's not been very good.
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It hasn't been good for them, really hasn't.
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And there's not a killer class this offseason.
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I keep wanting to say this summer, but it's not going to be so.
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I think the two routes you're gonna see are Clean draft and Unisys UNIX, maybe throwing big money but short term money at veteran free agents or pursuing, you know, young counts of players treat or maybe a veteran player, future it.
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So I think that if Tom Thibodeau is the coach, I think you're gonna see a heavy veteran presence on the roster.
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I think they're going to roll the balls out and have a bunch of 1920 21 year olds in the rotation.
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Thinking better is getting minutes on this next Knick team.
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Thibodeau's coach beautifully. Not.
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You're more likely to see a decent amount of veterans on the roster.
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And then, like I filled out, showing some years ago where you're just, you know, putting together young players and having learnt on the fly.
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Okay, let's stop it right there.
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Because that's what I want to get into, right? We You know, we're assuming that this is Tom Thibodeau.
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That's going to be the coach that was in Bagley.
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Ladies and gentlemen, that was in Bagley.
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So you get a chance to make sure you go check out s.
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And why TV? And he was Ah, you are the hardest artist, er podcast Larry Hardisty for ESPN.
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So that was those two guys having a conversation and you heard it.
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And I think we heard it before.
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He said, I think you're going to see a heavy veteran presence on the rosters.
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Not like they're gonna roll out, roll the ball out and have a bunch of 1920 21 year olds in the rotation.
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I want to get your take on that guy.
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So I want to know, How do you feel about that statement? And Bagley is one of those guys who in my opinion, is plugged in.
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He's one of the guys that I trust to, you know, to get this information.
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As far sources are concerned, he's one of the guys that I really do trust.
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Be a heavy veteran presence, not a bunch of kids being role, you know, just being thrown out there to play ball.
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How do you feel about that statement? And listen, if Tom Thibodeau is the coach, I do believe that's exactly what we're going to see on the floor.
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How do you feel about it? Neat.
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I mean, honestly, man, I mean, I'm okay with it because we want to win.
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I mean, we got a win.
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I mean, we've gone through the last 23 years on the honest that argument in 10 years of just turmoil with this team.
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I mean, it's time to start winning.
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I mean, if you want to bring in, you know, free agents.
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If you want to make this more of, ah destination for players to want to come to, you gotta win no matter what.
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And I could see them going with vets because it's ah hope I hope and pray that it's ah, earn your role type of situation where if he puts a vet in front of the young guy, it's the young guys job to earn that spot, which what we hope Fizdale would do, you know that? Eat what you kill stuff, which we never really saw.
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He played more favorites, So I'm hoping tip of those that's his mentality is like, Hey, these young guys are gonna to earn their spot whether that means playing defense or what that means, you know, being offensively, um uh, able to shoot.
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I mean, those are probably the biggest issues the Knicks have, but im Ah, horrid, man.
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I mean, I think I think with a new coach, you gotta gotta get some wins under your belt.
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You gotta build that confidence.
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You know, if you just throw a bunch of young people out there like which everybody wants to see, we're gonna lose a lot of games again.
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I mean, I don't know if these guys are ready to take that next step just by the young guys.
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I mean, but who the who? The vets they're gonna be. That's the question.
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Are we going to go more of the second tier free agents and m, or we're gonna bring in some one year deals again.
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I mean, it's gonna mention to see what vets they're talking about because almost all our vets are all, um, set to leave.
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So I mean, I was talking about whole influx of vets.
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Me.
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That's that's my question is, what do you talking about you talking about, like making a splash of free agency you're talking about? Maybe get some second tier guys, maybe one year deals? I don't know that.
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My question.
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I mean, it sounds to me like it's going to be somebody.
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Sounds to me if you're talking about vets.
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Some of it sounds similar to what they did last year.
00:15:00
Yeah, when you're deals, you know, short deals, running veterans like Taj Gibson.
00:15:06
Um, I mean, if you want to consider Elfrid Payton event, I guess you can consider Elfrid Payton event because of the years that he's been in the league.
00:15:15
Bobby Portis is not really a very, I don't know.
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I guess he's made a mid vet.
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Whatever you want to call them.
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Julius Randle was kind in that same situation whereby reports admit vet that's overpaid in this kind of their two.
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So if you're talking about true vets Wayne Ellington, um, Taj Gibson, Reggie Bullock, Marcus Moore's those were vets those those were true to enough vets you'll see in that guy stripes on the arms.
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Um, the other guys are still, you know, figuring out figuring some things out.
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I mean, it's kind of what they did last year.
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What do you think about that, Andy? Well, for me, if they signed quality guys, I won't have a problem with that.
00:16:07
But if there is going to roll out Elphick Bacon, Wayne Ellington, Vegetable of Julius Randle and Touch Gibson.
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I don't think I can see that going through the whole season, man.
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That's gonna be all.
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But, you know, I think you know the first coaches priority should be looking at the squad and really understanding the players on not looking on lee their development, but at the best way to, you know, go further with the team.
00:16:37
So let's see what we get in the tract.
00:16:40
But we're gonna have, you know, a rookie, and that's gonna be a high big probably should be playing, you know, big minutes.
00:16:48
Maybe not even, you know, a starting right.
00:16:51
But at least big minutes, RJ.
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Well, I'm guessing.
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I think you gotta start. It's gonna start.
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He has to start.
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Yeah.
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So? So, you know, I'm get Step's gonna accept one, Ricky.
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At least you know that.
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Maybe now look, like I say assault, all right? And no, I think Mitch might be getting quality minutes as well.
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I don't know who is going to be the three or was going to be the four.
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I'm guessing granddaughter if he's going to stay.
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I don't think this can, you know, come in and put Randall on the bench.
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Pull put RJ on the bench and stuff like that.
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I don't think that's gonna work.
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But if we signed quality guys, for example, if we trade for our quiz fall right, you can roll with Chris ball and you can bend, maybe look at a couple of young guys or, you know, sign solid vets.
00:17:37
But if I would be beyond Rose, I would go with signing if if we're gonna sign those quality bets for young for sorry for one year deals I would go like for guys or 34 That that You know, the young guys won't view feel, feel hurting.
00:17:57
And they're curry is gonna be damaged by a guy like, you know, we're gonna send a guy like that that's in his prime, right? So he's gonna, you know, block minutes for the couple of next season's It's maybe a season or just, you know, roll into the season and see what's gonna happen down.
00:18:15
Yeah, I think I feel like if you bring it well, let me get to Evergreen.
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Evergreen.
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If you resisted talk, how do you feel about those streets? So So, uh, so I'm a little frustrated by a very good Yeah.
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Okay.
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So I'm a little frustrated by it, because no, I don't I don't want to repeat exactly what we did last time.
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You mean like we just we just We just went down this road last year.
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Super veteran, Heavy presence.
00:18:48
Um, no.
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And I feel like again.
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You know, last year I was last season.
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I was a guy that was saying, like, we had an 18 game season of winds, that we were successful, and we we got to what, 20? 22 23.
00:19:02
So I'm I'm looking at a slow and steady grinding process with a few veterans that air here, maybe maybe five vets at the most.
00:19:14
That air here to, you know, really support the young guys.
00:19:18
Give them everything that they need and help them what they need to be successful.
00:19:22
I don't want to see an entire team full events because I don't want to see an entire team for the best that end up leaving after two years or after a year.
00:19:31
And now we're stuck where we were with all the rookies again.
00:19:35
I want a team I want to slow and steady build team that was almost like similar like that.
00:19:42
That that Clippers team with, um, Darius Miles on it, like what all those young do's that we're running up running up and down the court.
00:19:51
I want to slow a slow and steady grind and build build young team that you want to stay here for the bride of New York City and and really want to play for the team and not no, I don't know if it's frustrating.
00:20:05
It's frustrating here, like you completely understand where where the the team is coming from.
00:20:11
Weight organizations coming from but we haven't been successful in doing that at all.
00:20:17
Like the last time we were successful at doing that was under Woodson, right? Like, and then when we bring all these other vets in, like, they don't pan out or we get rid of them Same thing with the young guys, so I just I want to stay the course.
00:20:30
You mean whatever the course was that was built on the idea that was built under under Mills and Perry with, you know, China filled the team through the draft.
00:20:40
I want to do that.
00:20:41
If this were going to go to this whole rinse wash repeat thing that we just did last year with signing the whole bunch events, you know it.
00:20:50
I don't think that's gonna work.
00:20:52
Like I feel like out of Max.
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We should have five vets, the 11 from each position back and really meant or the people, the young guys that they have under their belt right now.
00:21:02
You know, young, the young guys that small for you, who's gonna be Who's gonna be the oh, who is going to be the guy that mentor Kevin Knox.
00:21:13
You know who from the small floor.
00:21:15
The power forward position is going to give Kevin nights where he needs to be successful if we intend on keeping, who is going to be the guy that's going to give Mitchell Robin sending the tools that he needs at the five to be successful, the same thing that the one that we plan on Stand here with Frank Franken and DS J for going into the draft? Who was gonna be that point guard that's going to give us that ability t o have some stability? What are you even after they end up leaving? And I personally don't think that, you know, grabbing a whole bunch of new people again from having nine brand new dudes on a team from last season.
00:21:49
I don't think that that's the right formula and doing it again, because then you got Frank Miller Aquino who's gonna those under a whole new set of leadership again, You got DS James under instead of leadership, since since he's been in high school, you know, you have all these new people that just keep coming in and keep getting recycled and keep getting flushed out, and it's get ready to happen again Not to say that I wanted Bobby porters to stay, and I want it.
00:22:13
Ellington stay and I want you know, l for pain to stay and all those guys.
00:22:17
But it's like, Can we show some some bit of continuity? You know, it's a constantly going to start now because we thought it was going start last season.
00:22:27
It really hasn't started yet.
00:22:29
Well, and I mean, the thing is, you know, with the way the contracts are structured, no matter what happens unless you decide to keep those players, no matter what happens, you are going to you're gonna end up with nine new roster spots.
00:22:44
And the problem is, they don't take on big contracts.
00:22:46
So it's gonna have to be one year deals, you know? Right, right, Right.
00:22:50
So you're gonna take on nine new roster roster spots? I do.
00:22:55
I actually I said it back then.
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I'm gonna say it again.
00:23:00
Now.
00:23:01
I felt like the thought process was correct.
00:23:06
It wasn't executed well throughout, but I thought that I felt like the thought process was correct.
00:23:14
Because you have guys, you know, it's hard to say who was event, not event sometimes right Julius Randle's 25 years old.
00:23:25
People could say is a vet because he's been in the league for five years.
00:23:28
Some people say he was only 25 years old.
00:23:30
You know of it.
00:23:31
You know you're looking at 2028 29 30 years old.
00:23:35
You know that's been in the league for a while and being gruesome, some things in the league.
00:23:40
Elfrid Payton in the same boat, Bobby Portis in the same boat like these guys are really kind of young players.
00:23:47
You know what I'm saying? You know, when you talk about true vets.
00:23:50
Marcus Morris was a true vet.
00:23:51
Wayne Ellington types like those guys are your vet vets.
00:23:57
All right, Um, I think you know they're going to go that route and you have Tom Thibodeau.
00:24:04
I think they're definitely going to go that route and bringing in vets.
00:24:09
But I think you can bring in vets, and I see someone in a chat.
00:24:13
00 raw Hebrew thinking for the super chat.
00:24:17
You know, he said, you can't go for the playoffs and try to rebuild at the same time, but you could try to be competitive at the same time, that should be building, I think, and having good veterans as part of rebuilding.
00:24:29
You just got to make sure that you got the right mix so that your young guys that being talk, you're saying because I think the idea is that and I hear what Evergreen is saying right, you know, you bring in a bunch of vets that's hogging up the playing time and then they leave and then the young guys haven't really gotten to the point that they needed to get to, to maintain and team on their own.
00:24:52
I think the idea is that you could bring in vets in certain areas in certain positions that have certain roles that will help the young guys to come along.
00:25:02
And then when they leave, those guys are ready to take the man O on their own.
00:25:07
It's not easy to do.
00:25:08
That's why winning a championship in the NBA's is so prized because it's very hard and to build it from the ground up is even tougher.
00:25:17
Um, you know, I think you know, when you talk about when you talk about the strategy that they're looking at, I think there's two things that really have to be, well, more than two things.
00:25:31
Three things that you really gotta look at probably more than that.
00:25:34
But obviously the point guard position.
00:25:38
You know, you might have a young point guard in the draft, but you need somebody who can really, really delve out who can really distribute the duties on a team on the floor.
00:25:51
And I'm not just talking about the coach distributing the duties, but a point guard that can really distribute the duties, demand the respect and say, This is what's happening on this play right now.
00:26:04
This is what's happening.
00:26:05
I don't care what anybody else thinks.
00:26:07
I am the leader on the floor.
00:26:09
We need that.
00:26:10
Ah, bonified leader on the floor, Not one that's figuring out how to be a leader, not one that just wants to be a leader, a bona fide leader out there on the floor to put everybody in their position, put players and check when they need to be put in, check on, and then that goes into my next.
00:26:30
The next thing Julius Randle is going to be on the team.
00:26:33
He's a talented player, right? He has skill, but he has to be corralled.
00:26:42
And I think if you have the right kind of leader on the floor, you can corral him.
00:26:46
If you're not gonna have the right kind of leader to corral Julius Randle, then you're not going to get from him.
00:26:53
What you expect I thought you might get from him.
00:26:56
It's almost like the same thing with Carmelo Anthony.
00:26:59
Carmelo Anthony had his best years when he was with Chauncey Billups when he was with Jason Kidd.
00:27:03
He had his best years because he had a point guard that he respected a point guard.
00:27:09
That was, you know, that wasn't afraid to let Carmelo Anthony is kind of a quiet dude anyway.
00:27:14
But so, you know, he's like a silent locker room assassin or something like that, you know? So a point guard that's not afraid to get in his face.
00:27:24
Ah, point guard that he respects Ah, point guard that's gonna move him out the way, Do whatever you need to do, um, to make sure that that person stays in check.
00:27:35
Julius Randle needs that if you're not going to provide that than your best bet is to move on from one because you're not doing yourself or him any good.
00:27:44
I mean, where do you find that guy? I don't know.
00:27:48
You know, saying that's probably going to be a veteran guy.
00:27:51
You know what I'm saying? Um and then you need a guy like one or two guys, you know? You know this RJ need a minute tour? I don't know.
00:28:06
RJ Kinda.
00:28:08
He kind of got it.
00:28:09
He's got it. I don't know if he needs a mentor.
00:28:12
I see no posts out there.
00:28:13
But oh, Mellow would be a great mentor for R J.
00:28:15
That I don't know if r j needs a mentor.
00:28:17
Kevin Knox needs a mentor.
00:28:18
Mitchell Robinson needs a mentor.
00:28:20
No, I'm saying I don't know if r j needs a mental, you know? What do you think, Andy? But what? I disagree.
00:28:27
I agree with you.
00:28:28
Uh, no.
00:28:29
No.
00:28:30
I think Argenis Argentines body to practice shooting with so they can just be under, you know, off the training facility and then shoot after hours with a guy that he can hang with and no check back shooting.
00:28:47
And that's the only thing are just gonna need to force couple seasons.
00:28:50
Man, I think he is an Alpha, but he knows his role on the team is not gonna be no surrounding.
00:28:56
You know, Julius Randle on the court.
00:28:59
They can have no making out fights.
00:29:01
But you know words after, you know, going to the locker room or you know, you can have the practices, but he's not gonna cause problems, you know, PR problems, even on the court for the next.
00:29:14
I think he's he's that sad.
00:29:16
So uh huh, Yeah.
00:29:18
So you know, if if you're gonna if you're gonna have RJ Mitch, Frank Randall, you've got I think you've gotta have a veteran point guard that is a good leader out there on the floor.
00:29:34
I think that's going to be a key.
00:29:36
Listen, I still believe that if we had a veteran point guard presence and I'm not talking about Elfrid Payton, but a real veteran point guard presents this year, this team I'm not going to I'm not saying we would have been in the playoffs, but this team would have looked way different.
00:29:50
I really do feel that.
00:29:52
Um, so I guess you know, we're going to see how what the roster construction is like, you know, they brought in guys like Sean McLean and I didn't get a chance to hear from you or Evergreen or what you think on these guys, show McLean, who is a basketball ****yst.
00:30:10
Tom Thibodeau.
00:30:11
If he's hired, he's more of the You know, I see what guys can do.
00:30:16
That's what I'm going with.
00:30:17
Show him clean.
00:30:18
Obviously, he's in the front office.
00:30:19
May not even have to have a lot of contact with Tom Thibodeau.
00:30:22
Um, he's an ****yst type of type of a guy, right? You know, in knows how to set up systems and data and do all those type of things.
00:30:32
What do you think this guy's role is gonna be? How How will? What do you think its role is gonna be and we'll get and we're going to swing back around Tom Thibodeau.
00:30:42
You know what? If there is gonna be the coach, I think this guy's gonna be more working for the future of the next.
00:30:50
So he's gonna be looking out for players that might fit our system, even with David or with anyone else.
00:30:57
But I would see him having a bigger role when we pick a coach like any Atkinson or even Woody or even Jason Kidd.
00:31:09
I know.
00:31:10
I don't Like you said, I think there's a guy that if you show me things in practice and in games with smaller minutes, you're gonna get more playing time.
00:31:19
I don't think it's gonna, you know, see? Okay, you got 5% rebounding the ball where you come from the left, and I'm gonna try to, you know, convert place.
00:31:29
You coming in from the left side, I think it's you're gonna be playing.
00:31:32
Go. You're gonna be playing minutes.
00:31:34
It's not gonna be happening in the bath.
00:31:36
And, you know, when the practices or in the games, you're not gonna get a burn.
00:31:39
Right? So I don't think those ****ytics number is gonna work for for for for thieves.
00:31:45
But, you know, he might changes, You know, perception off the ****ytics a little bit and make something beginning account.
00:31:55
It's gonna be that much more.
00:31:57
I will be sure about big everything for tips.
00:32:02
Let me get to this call.
00:32:03
A real quick call.
00:32:04
What's going on, man? Was spot.
00:32:07
What's going on? The artist formerly known at worldwide You guys got to come up with a name.
00:32:11
Yeah, You do that, man was people gonna think World Wild West is calling into the show and give and give it out secrets.
00:32:20
You know, saying you don't funny thing is, though, but whoever worldwide, where came with me and I had a game high school and graduated high school three.
00:32:29
I mean, when the World Wide Web being out.
00:32:32
But that's another story.
00:32:35
Your black night.
00:32:36
So that would fire relax myself, explode with quiet.
00:32:39
I really appreciated everybody different than opinion that so well appreciated, but it was definitely a crazy crazy show.
00:32:48
A great conversation, though, you know, I'm saying it was a great conversation all the way around sometime.
00:32:54
Conversation.
00:32:55
Just let it flow on my go somewhere else.
00:32:56
But I just want to say one thing for me to get back. Teoh.
00:33:00
I work in a predominantly female industry, right, nursing or whatever.
00:33:06
So I had experienced something that I never thought I would have just recently, that I was on the other end of being ***ually harassed and I had to go to human resource and complaining, and I have to work in the world completely uncomfortable.
00:33:20
Even after I made the complete other women somehow found out.
00:33:24
Well, like she should have never got fired.
00:33:26
And, like, you know, I mean, so you got to be careful, because I would another imagine, like, how available when the shoes on the other foot and then you coming in the old place of work when you they want to get money Feeling completely uncomfortable at the wild feeling, you know, imagine.
00:33:43
But anyway, back to the next.
00:33:45
So now I don't feel I'm I'm not going to take the word of the report even though you'd be better.
00:33:53
Very credible.
00:33:54
I'm not gonna go overboard and get nervous about a, um, signing a bunch of over the over the hill veteran.
00:34:02
You know? I know Tony Crow take credit for being the 1st 1 of mentioned quick cold.
00:34:06
I was the first woman mentioned. Chris. Paul.
00:34:09
I remember you mentioned it, Chris.
00:34:13
Paul to I remember that.
00:34:16
Okay, I'm glad.
00:34:17
I'm glad. I'm glad you without me.
00:34:19
Um, and so now a veteran like Chris pull, I think I think you have to go get Chris.
00:34:26
Paul.
00:34:27
I think you have to one Unless unless you end up with the number one overall pick in the draft.
00:34:31
And even then, you know, I'm not opposed to getting crisp Cool, you know? But we have the sixth pick in the draft, and we're gonna drop Calabrian or one of these other dies.
00:34:42
You know, Chris, Paul, you need a floor, General, like you were saying to tell people you get there, get there, get here.
00:34:48
And not a veteran.
00:34:49
A veteran who has a proven track record on the floor.
00:34:53
Yes, and it still has filled that.
00:34:56
You know what I mean? So I think that that's definitely essential, right? I also think Mitch, like he said, he definitely needs that because he was farmed the veteran leadership, you know, he he's coachable players.
00:35:09
And he listened.
00:35:10
You know, when you have, like, seeing how his game improved under DeAndre Jordan, you've seen how you know under the tutelage of stars, get when he competes, cleaned up, turn areas of his game as the season progressed and that you know that thing being accepted the veteran leadership as far Kevin Knox.
00:35:28
I don't know if Carmelo, as a matter of fact, I don't think Carmelo Anthony is the right veteran.
00:35:34
But Kevin knock.
00:35:35
It's almost the same situation with more.
00:35:38
There's so much better than Kevin knocked right now that they're gonna get the bulk of the minutes and it's gonna progression on the court.
00:35:48
You know, I just think you need somebody who may be more the veteran who's not looking to play as much as minutes more of a defender.
00:35:56
Come in the game to play defense threes, but be ableto mental Kevin Knox and have his game regret, Because I know we disagree on this and you can't just give a player minutes.
00:36:07
But for a player to go complained 30 minutes in one year in their rookie seasons, playing 12 minutes.
00:36:13
Romek here it's like, you know, you're moving backwards as an organization had to play his confidence to right, you know, and injected.
00:36:23
That could make you up for years.
00:36:25
So you know, you gotta really you making investment in the player you can't just throw into the skyline like like what they did.
00:36:31
Was they drafted R.
00:36:33
J.
00:36:34
Barrett? So this this is that dude, the all the attention and everything that Kevin Knocked was getting here before he saw that he saw Barry again and he's human.
00:36:44
He's a 19 year old kid.
00:36:46
I think back to when I was 19 playing against God to 26 of you, 26 30 super old.
00:36:53
You know, you can use your confidence.
00:36:55
You could get lost in the source and you do some place.
00:36:58
Need to be coddled more than others.
00:37:00
But every organization has to show that the player that they drafted, they have affected interests in that player, you know, And he's developed.
00:37:09
And I feel at some point Kevin Knox it felt it that they would no longer fully vested in him.
00:37:17
And he just got to survive this season and like you're on your own type situation instead of them helping him along more.
00:37:24
He did a lot of causes.
00:37:25
My too, but, you know, So I feel you have to be careful with the veterans that you select on the team.
00:37:31
That's gonna be, you know, very important and like your boy, Nicholas said, I know his name.
00:37:36
A nickel, You know, you don't want to get a group of veteran like we did in 2000.
00:37:44
I think 12 win 54 games, 76 of those guys off the team.
00:37:51
Now you're scrambling to replace them.
00:37:52
And you're not going to get back to chemistry or turn.
00:37:54
Guys tire for the final year.
00:37:56
You got guys were injured, You know what I mean? So you do want filled the team with you and at the same time, veteran leadership, Who's gonna help you develop, you know, So you have to do two things at once. You have.
00:38:10
You know, I personally I over me, I will go, Chris, Paul, I think that he can be acquired for a reasonable, reasonable, reasonable right.
00:38:21
You know, I'm gonna go with, um I'm gonna go with dabs birth pangs because he could shoot that three, you know? And he's not gonna be as expensive as a gallon Mary might be.
00:38:31
You know, I'm gonna look trade Julius Randle Im Look at im.
00:38:36
A look at bringing back, um, movie, perhaps, But he's gonna play the backup for, you know, And that's not the three.
00:38:44
I don't have all the answers for the roster construction right now to the institute, but I just got my electronics.
00:38:50
Conveys that you need a mix of youth and veterans, but you don't need veteran toward, you know, not good enough to help you win.
00:38:58
But good enough to pick minutes away from the veteran.
00:39:00
I mean, from the young guys.
00:39:02
Because then you know you're going.
00:39:04
You're not progressing anywhere as a franchise.
00:39:08
Rumor that Mark Jackson or but got the Brooklyn Brooklyn job.
00:39:12
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:39:14
And see, I'm not, um, as quick to move on from Randolph.
00:39:19
We could get someone like Chris Paul.
00:39:21
Yes.
00:39:22
I really think Chris Paul can do wonders with Julius Randle out there and helping him to corral his game and utilize its talent.
00:39:29
I think I feel like he would respond to someone like Chris Paul.
00:39:33
If you're not gonna have a veteran point guard like a Chris Paul, then I think you probably should move on because a rookie and a young point guard is not going to get it done with Julius Randle.
00:39:45
My opinion.
00:39:47
You don't know him, Idris. Service.
00:39:49
You're doing team a big disservice.
00:39:51
But if you get Chris Paul, I think it could work.
00:39:56
I don't doubt it.
00:39:57
Hey, play well with David West.
00:39:58
You know, pick and roll plays from a little creek pole.
00:40:01
And I do think that Julius Randle would respond to Coach Thibs because I mean, just on face value.
00:40:08
Julius Randle does have the foundation of being a good packer.
00:40:13
But he had passed well out of the low post, but he can pass better out of the high post.
00:40:19
And you could put him into the same situation that he had, uh, joking, No in and him making decision, you know? And then if nobody, you know covered him up that he could dive to the basket for a layup, But that bar having and bring the ball down court I mean, we call about this early.
00:40:34
They put him in a position to fail.
00:40:36
That was that was craziness.
00:40:38
That was craziness, hearing damage.
00:40:41
I don't know.
00:40:46
I'm just reviewing the games.
00:40:47
I have, like, probably 24 games, states that don't like a stomach.
00:40:52
And I'm watching them over and over.
00:40:54
And I'm saying listening like you said, Julius Randle does have a skill that he does have the ability to be a contributor on a good Pete.
00:41:02
I personally feel like his role as a six man would be so much more suited for him, you know, cause then he can actually even they can't even use them as, ah, primary core, Like as far as the second unit.
00:41:15
You know, that would be like, but you have to have a veteran coach haven't except that role, you know, Especially if you're gonna have a younger dude at the powerful.
00:41:24
Where him coming off the bench, right? He's going like I like kids.
00:41:28
I think he listened from.
00:41:29
I like him, you know, subjecting that, as opposed to, you know, one of the younger, unproven coaches.
00:41:34
So, yeah, you want tea? Quick poll.
00:41:38
And we need ah feel vexed, but we don't want to overdo it.
00:41:41
We still want to develop the young talent, you know, and whatever point guard get and the draft to be able to develop, not to.
00:41:49
Ah, Chris.
00:41:50
Paul leaving two years.
00:41:51
And now we start from scratch.
00:41:53
You know what I mean? Right? Right.
00:41:54
No doubt about it.
00:41:56
A, uh, West.
00:41:57
I appreciate the call man Oldbury Mandel problem? No, I told you later, man, and you know, you know, he talked about and he talked about having the right kind of veteran for heavy knocks.
00:42:15
I think that guy could have been Obviously is not going to be now.
00:42:18
I think that guy could have been Vince Carter.
00:42:21
Vince Carter probably would have been perfect for Kevin Docks.
00:42:24
I said I was.
00:42:25
I was gonna say a couple of names of veterans that I would sign for even more than the Beds minimum just for them to run with the team.
00:42:34
And the first name was Vince Carter.
00:42:37
I don't know.
00:42:38
The second would be probably a Ray Allen type of guy.
00:42:41
He doesn't even have to suit up.
00:42:43
Just practice with the guys.
00:42:45
If we had a guy like Ray Allen discord and stuff like that, they would just be traveling with the team, telling The guys want to do off the court so they don't get in trouble on the court.
00:42:56
They don't have to complain games.
00:42:57
Just sit behind the bench with the guy and say, OK, you see that? That's why he made a mistake.
00:43:02
You gotta do it this way of that way.
00:43:04
That would be perfect thing for them, for our bet.
00:43:06
That doesn't read minutes doesn't take minutes, so the rookies won't be afraid of losing their job.
00:43:13
But they also will fear their respect and, you know, care for the Ford.
00:43:18
What the vets are trying to teach them that That's what makes the chemistry, you know, perfect for 40 teams off course you're gonna have.
00:43:26
Not only that's why, all right, I said, you know, guys over 35 would be perfect for for the next way.
00:43:32
Maybe this wouldn't be.
00:43:33
Have playing them, you know, minutes in the game.
00:43:35
So but the young guy still be playing more, but that those kind of guys will be perfect.
00:43:40
Yeah.
00:43:41
So before I switch over the SportsCastr cause I'm about to switch over in a minute Well, I'm already on SportsCastrs solely on SportsCastr, but we still got a couple more minutes here on you two.
00:43:51
Um, I want to know.
00:43:54
Let's assuming that it's Tom Thibodeau.
00:43:58
Assuming that is Tom Thibodeau.
00:44:00
What players on this team do you think will respond to top Thibodeau? Do you think that he would? I don't want to say take a liking to, But are his kind of players players that we already have? That would be his kind of place.
00:44:16
What do you think? I think the 1st 1 is gonna be RJ than Frank than Mitch.
00:44:22
And that's gonna be one of the core not only for tips, but mainly for tips.
00:44:28
Uh, actually, I'm not sure about Randall, Uh, like, goal traumatically both ways.
00:44:35
He might respond really good, or it might be a disaster.
00:44:39
And he's gonna be the first kind of it to be traded man, because if they was gonna rob in bad on the events and he's not going to like it, that that might be a problem.
00:44:48
But I hope it's gonna work out fine.
00:44:51
But I think I'd rather it was more of a situation that you said that he needs a better point guard like metal head with chances to stuff like that.
00:44:58
And he can no work better if you're laying, you know, all your eggs in Randall's basket, that's a problem.
00:45:04
And we saw what happened, so I don t know before it there also, you know, I think bridgeable lock or I think Ellington is a good guy there, You know, if they're here or not here, I think they were gonna be times guys that off course starts gifts.
00:45:20
And if he's gonna, you know, state, uh, those That's gonna be good.
00:45:24
I don't know about Gigi because, you know, he's a young guy.
00:45:26
We didn't see you can, you know? I don't know, maybe 50 minutes or the whole season.
00:45:30
So I don't know how he's been workout on wear, loved him more mentally.
00:45:35
And how he response all the court.
00:45:38
I hope he wills, uh, you know what? The even going further when we want everyone says that we want a mellow I think in a mellow might be a crash with did as well why not ban out, man? I don't I don't see you know Tibbs looking for, you know, on the mellow, taking those world shots and defenseman that that might be really bad.
00:46:02
But, you know, let's think that before supposed test.
00:46:05
Yeah, that's, you know, with Randall.
00:46:08
I think I think you're exactly right.
00:46:10
It could be a wage, right? It could be that he responds really well.
00:46:16
And the thing about Randall, like defensively, he has the ability.
00:46:20
He has all the ability, the attention.
00:46:25
He's just gotta want to do it on every single play right now.
00:46:29
So then the question like he said is, Does he respond to a coach who was going to demand that he does on every single play and sit him if he doesn't or is he going to, you know, power? I'm saying, you know, that's you know, that's what you know.
00:46:45
Which way is it going to go on? And I don't know if it's gonna be anywhere in the middle with them.
00:46:50
I think it's going to be one way or the other.
00:46:53
I'm saying And Kenny responsible Coach, there's gonna you know, uh, if Tom Thibodeau is gonna be the coach said he is, that's going to come in and write him and, you know, trying to push him to get the best out of himself.
00:47:08
Hey, could Tom Thibodeau could be the guy for it.
00:47:11
But listen, if you're going to do it, you got to make sure you got that veteran point guard there.
00:47:15
You know that in that guy that communicate between the players and and I think I like Coach what he could be a nice in between assistant that can, you know, soften the blow for Yeah, yeah, I think you know what? What do you think? Like what players do you think Tom Thibodeau would? Assuming it's Tom Thibodeau, you know that he's gonna take a license to players that will respond to Tom Thibodeau.
00:47:45
So where you don't like me going to light? Oh, I know licensing for me now.
00:47:52
You could make that.
00:47:54
I think I agree with a lot of what man was just saying.
00:47:59
I'm curious if it is Tibbs, if he ends up holding onto ties based on him coming.
00:48:06
When he went to Minnesota, he tried to do the Bulls two point.
00:48:10
Oh, and now he's coming to New York and we have a formidable entire Gipson.
00:48:16
Yeah, I'm really intrigued, but he's gonna turn him into our new lanes.
00:48:21
Thomas if he's going to use him as a ZA player coach, which is, I think, a role he's fit for, and I think that's that's the most in clearing thing.
00:48:31
I agree that Randall could be either way.
00:48:33
I think Randall's like that because of who we get.
00:48:37
To be honest with you, he's kind of at that point in his career.
00:48:40
It's even what is held Island.
00:48:42
This is when you even make the band or you make the bed right, so he's at that.
00:48:47
He's at that crossroad right now.
00:48:49
Outside of that, the obvious Pixar defensive minded guys like Frank, You know, those are obvious picks, but I'm curious if he's turning over a new leaf.
00:48:58
So I'm wondering that the problem is we already have many offensively dominant players right now.
00:49:03
Outside of maybe r J depend on rt improves.
00:49:06
So I, I think, for the most part, are teaming is very malleable, and he's in a pick up.
00:49:13
Whoever is willing to work hard, more so than anything else.
00:49:17
So obviously guys like R.
00:49:18
J are gonna be a favorite of his.
00:49:20
Um, I worry about people like not that problem showing the intensity.
00:49:26
Um, you know, I really worry for him more than anybody else.
00:49:32
Outside of that, I think you'll like Portis if they decided to keep courting something like Taj.
00:49:36
I think the veteran guys gonna be going his top people.
00:49:39
I think if he evidence tombs, we going to see a lot of what we saw last year.
00:49:43
That's a plane, had a young guys, and right, I feel like that's gonna be a problem if you get too did tips, every court supporters.
00:49:52
No, I don't think so.
00:49:54
Portis was after Tubes, wasn't it last year.
00:49:59
But how long is the supporters in Chicago.
00:50:04
Two years.
00:50:05
Three years? Okay, I feel like he got I thought he got dough.
00:50:08
He was still in his rookie contract after punching.
00:50:10
Oh, boy.
00:50:11
Yeah, I think he was still in his rookie contract.
00:50:13
Um, yeah, he probably will, Like by reporters.
00:50:20
I don't know if the Knicks are going to keep Bobby Portis around because of his contract.
00:50:23
All right, you know, you know, they'd have to pay him $15 million this year.
00:50:32
Hey, you know, if he was if he was on a $1,000,000 contract or something like that, you know, but 15 I don't think they're going to pay a 1,000,000.
00:50:41
And the weird thing is, I kind of like porters like I just for the intensity like we need a garnet tight do that do this, just giving you 100 all the time and don't give a ****.
00:50:55
And you know what? We're kind of missing that he's got a lot of guys who get small when things get rough to eso.
00:51:01
Bobby Portis came this season after Tom Thibodeau left the booth, so I mean, I still think Portis fits his mold, though just from an intensity standpoint, it made sense with what they were trying to do about this, right? Because Julius Randle can't really shoot. Used to four.
00:51:22
Mitchell Robinson can't shoot.
00:51:24
He's a five.
00:51:25
So they have that guy that can play the full order five.
00:51:27
Who could come in for Randall and be the four while Mental Robinson runs to the basket or come in for mental Robinson spread the floor by Randall posts.
00:51:38
Right? It made sense with what they were trying to do with Bobby Portis.
00:51:42
Yeah, they're gonna need another guy like that.
00:51:46
You know, Uh, West was talking about doctors. Batons.
00:51:50
He's another guy that's like that.
00:51:51
Maybe you could shoot it better than by reporters.
00:51:54
Gin.
00:51:56
I see in the image really sad, because the answer to our problems deciding I'm gonna play with us no more.
00:52:06
Who is this one guy who would sit? What we're talking about, Angus? A no names cause who's Martin Chilo? Oh, yeah.
00:52:17
Holds that one.
00:52:18
Do? Yeah, that would be if he would have stayed right now.
00:52:22
I mean, yes, I say it one more time.
00:52:25
Lose my way, right? Exactly.
00:52:28
Everything it would have been.
00:52:30
That guy right there in the middle.
00:52:31
That could do either one, but right.
00:52:35
Any what it took, he would have been able to stay entirely because we have been, you know, R J would have been doing more.
00:52:40
He would have been able to just play the backward like he's doing over there, right? Yeah, his hair out.
00:52:49
I'm surprised he hasn't not to get in yet.
00:52:52
You come in. You coming? Don't worry.
00:52:54
I'm going to keep talking about you're supposed to ball pull.
00:52:57
Think it, Um, A as far as a coaching staff.
00:53:08
What? What what kind of coaching staff did we gotta put with, um, with Tom Thibodeau? It is seeming like that said, you know, let's, you know, in Beijing before them, so he doesn't have any definite information, but its sources that used to be pretty good is usually a pretty good source.
00:53:23
And from what he said, I heard.
00:53:25
I mean, Kenny Atkinson, you know, we thought Kenny act assumed was going to be right there, and it makes you haven't really heard much about Kenny Atkinson.
00:53:32
I don't even know if he's had an interview.
00:53:34
We heard about Mike Woodson having an interview.
00:53:37
You know, somebody's other guys who have only been assistance.
00:53:42
The Wild.
00:53:43
A career I feel like with Hawaii.
00:53:47
Obscene interviews with Besides Jason Cade, you're setting up a.
00:53:55
He is setting up the assistant coaches for Tom Thibodeau.
00:54:00
I feel like you know, I'm timid.
00:54:02
Old Mike Woodson.
00:54:03
You had to learn guy from Chicago.
00:54:05
I forgot his name of Fleming.
00:54:07
Chris Fleming, who? You know, he's really only been an assistant, you know, you know, feels like maybe you're setting up Tom Thibodeau in his assistance.
00:54:17
No.
00:54:18
What do you think, Andy? Who's would you bring in? Or who do you think Tom Thibodeau would choose as his assistant coaches? Yeah, exactly like you said.
00:54:29
You know what? I was even talking.
00:54:30
Take it thinking about the female doctor guy from from Spurs.
00:54:35
I'm thinking if he is in a position to go straight after, ah head coaching job or just t know move out off the Spurs organization so he can have a bigger chance to take over a team after being, you know, a lead assistant.
00:54:53
I was thinking about it because, you know, I think he's a head coaching candidate on this point.
00:54:59
I was thinking, you know, moving and dispersed organization.
00:55:03
They're gonna have someone before him if off retires, right? So I'm thinking for his career path, he would choose another organization as an assistant, maybe as a leader systems and then try to, you know, skip over.
00:55:17
So are taking a job with Tibbs Might be the way to go.
00:55:22
You? Yeah.
00:55:25
Um you know, I'm hoping, uh, this is what Rob Petitto said.
00:55:29
Uh, I mean, Do co could be a good lead assistant for Tibbs.
00:55:34
Well, I think I think that, you know, you're going to need the guy, you know, He's a screamer, right? Tips is a screamer.
00:55:41
Look, listen, I coach, you guys know, of course, you right? And it was just this team foam from Boston.
00:55:49
You know, this sponsored by Adidas.
00:55:53
Great team.
00:55:54
They're great team.
00:55:55
But their coach You talk about a screamer and he remind me a time Thibodeau a little bit.
00:56:04
Eddie, when I tell you this guy, his team will be on offense.
00:56:08
He's screaming every single plate and he's standing five feet out onto the court.
00:56:17
Every single play, his team is down at the other end of the court.
00:56:21
He's out by half court almost yelling, screaming face to the red corners, kid Idiots.
00:56:28
It all kinds of stuff.
00:56:29
I'm looking at him like you know what's going on.
00:56:33
This I don't want to say the name of the of the of the au, you know, and put him out there like that.
00:56:39
But, you know, you can look it up, are huge AU team from Boston.
00:56:46
I mean, you know, they're really, really good, But crazy face right is a apple.
00:56:52
It was kind of like top typical.
00:56:54
I played for a coach like that to man.
00:56:57
When we were on defense, he was, like, understands, going like, you know, hands up, ends up.
00:57:01
You know, he was crazy, and we were going to the championship game said, You know, this, Like, pedophiles can think that they had a newspaper for the second today, right? And she was on the front, you know, page, like in his stance.
00:57:13
And they're, you know, everybody was laughing at the guy, but, you know, he was, you know, like, working with us on the court, man.
00:57:21
Yeah.
00:57:22
And, um, you know, that's tips, you know? So you're gonna need somebody that could go out there and kind of smooth things over for tips and let since that tips being theme bad guy in that coach come in and put his arm around the shoulders.
00:57:36
I don't think David Croasdale it was opposite and that's the wrong way of my pain.
00:57:42
With David Fizdale, I felt like he wanted to be the good guy while he sent quite, you know, he sent other people out there to tell players they're not going to start.
00:57:53
You know, I'm saying Oh, or do the discipline and that's not the way it should go right, because when it all comes down to it, you gotta listen to the head coach.
00:58:01
That's the guy that you know, sets the standards.
00:58:04
And if you head coach is the guy that is being buddy buddy, when it comes time for him to set standards, people are gonna last round right, you know me.
00:58:16
So I think you know he's going to need a guy that could kind of smooth things over Ah, when it's necessary.
00:58:23
You know, I think Woodson could be a good guy like that.
00:58:26
You know me, and I'm sure there's plenty of the people out there he's gonna have his choice.
00:58:30
But look, I am going to We're heading over The SportsCastr.
00:58:35
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00:58:36
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Now, you guys know the routine, all right? And we're gonna talk about what is your ideal off season.
00:58:45
And we're talking about your ideal all season.
00:58:48
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00:59:39
I guess this is the off season, but the free agency and the draft and all of that's coming up in October.
00:59:45
Eso you know, we're gonna talk about what's ideal and big shout out to Mahdi next, thinking for the Super Chapman.
00:59:49
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00:59:51
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00:59:55
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01:00:21
Now, ladies and gentlemen, I start with you need What's up? What's your idea? Off season ideal offseason be all season in the context that we have.
01:00:34
Tom Thibodeau is our head coach.
01:00:38
Okay, Ideal off season.
01:00:42
Do you think about this for a sec? Okay, so we talking like signings and draft picks Never we're talking about.
01:00:49
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what's up.
01:00:50
You know, coaching your coaching staff.
01:00:54
Signings, draft pigs.
01:00:56
What job? Context? That.
01:01:00
Yeah, that Tim's tip.
01:01:02
It'll be the coach.
01:01:05
Um, we would have Kinney, Akkus, Stan and Woodson as assistance.
01:01:12
Um, let's see.
01:01:15
Free agent Kenny Atkinson.
01:01:19
You think I'm going on? I'm going on The preference said if he doesn't get a job, if he doesn't get a job that he would take the next job.
01:01:28
Kind of like the Jason Kid Frank Vogel situation.
01:01:30
How they're kind of Jason Kidd wants a second chance at coaching.
01:01:33
And maybe you need to be an assistant for a little bit before they get a chip shot.
01:01:37
A head coach, I think.
01:01:39
I think Kenny Atkinson would mind being assistant for a year.
01:01:41
And then if that goes well, we could You could use that is like a I was an assistant, you know? We did better.
01:01:47
And so should army for head coach.
01:01:51
Mm.
01:01:52
Uh, my kind of say you have the ideal situations on the sound of my deal is okay.
01:01:58
Andre XT a SportsCastr's job.
01:02:00
He said, Are you paying Kenny like a head coach as an assistant? Are you? You know what kind of sound? Bite me.
01:02:08
The sea.
01:02:09
Probably right behind its.
01:02:12
Like your I don't know how they pay structure these coaches.
01:02:17
I'm making my second highest state assistant or her the highest paid assistant on the SATs.
01:02:22
Okay, um, I would sign Fred Vanvleet in this visit free agent because I like him.
01:02:31
I like his demeanor.
01:02:32
I like his toughness.
01:02:33
I think he would fit perfectly what Thibodeau wants in the point guard on the guys.
01:02:38
Kind of fearless.
01:02:39
He's not.
01:02:40
He's not too tall, but he plays bigger than his size and he'd be the big shot maker, which we need those kind of guys in clutch times.
01:02:49
Um, I would draft Lemelle when I'm a pall French.
01:02:53
I can't do that first century.
01:02:54
Probably I would get Obie Topping because we need, But we definitely need shooters on this team.
01:03:01
Um, I don't know, man.
01:03:04
I mean, uh, those would be my those would be my my decisions.
01:03:08
I probably I probably would bring back Reggie Bullock and I try to bring back Taj Gibson because I think Reggie Bullock is a guy who can guard multiple defenses, positions.
01:03:20
Taj Gibson, Like the guy was saying earlier, he's an extension of the coach.
01:03:24
So I think you need to have a player like that like a Lance Thomas.
01:03:27
And I think he could still play stop.
01:03:29
He's not a bad player by no means, um and I would actually I actually think that you're probably gonna have to bring that girl for Peyton, because I just don't think he is.
01:03:38
J is gonna mess with Tom Thibodeau.
01:03:42
I just I don't see him buying into defensive mentality.
01:03:46
You know, I think he's kind of a two year olds.
01:03:49
I don't know, I don't know.
01:03:51
I mean, we've seen times where he's played very well defensively, right? Talk about Dennis Smith Jr.
01:03:57
We've seen times where he's played very well and he can play Wait seven, still five years.
01:04:05
And I just think Elford Peyton is going to be probably more on Tibbs level because he already kind of plays defense, not saying he's the greatest defender.
01:04:13
But if you're comparing him to ts j at the I think tips probably trust Elfrid Payton more than trust the SJ on defense.
01:04:24
No, I'm even though you say Stop the ceiling.
01:04:28
It's hard to make any time real concrete criticisms on Dennis Smith Jr based on last season.
01:04:34
Oh, yeah, I'm just saying, from what I've seen from others, from it with him and other coaches is not a big defender.
01:04:40
I mean, he I mean, I just think if you're looking at defense, I think paid he's gonna buy into tips defensives system more so than Elfrid Payton early on.
01:04:50
But what I'm hoping about Dennis Smith Jr You know, especially with the way things went last year.
01:04:55
I'm hoping that he's at a point in his career early in his career, which could be very good for him early in his career, where he sees that he's not going to get by on just talent alone.
01:05:07
You know, not that he wasn't a hard worker before, but you know that he's really gotta work on this skill on fundamental with fundamental, fundamental skills and fundamentals that is not going to get by on talent alone.
01:05:19
Uh, I'm hoping that he's been humbled a little bit, you know.
01:05:22
He traded, traded from Dallas, comes to the next biggest.
01:05:26
He's going to be a starting point guard.
01:05:28
Next thing you know, he's on the end of the bench.
01:05:30
You know, I'm saying, I'm hoping that maybe he takes this and he's like, You know what? I got to get it together and then, you know, looking at the season, just looking at it season, you know, he had a death of a stepmother on, then this season is snatched away from you.
01:05:51
You know, when you're trying to come back and prove that you belong and you have a roster spot, you know that you need to have a roster spot, that you belong on this team or belong in the N B A and then the rest of the season.
01:06:03
It's passed away from you with Kobe 19.
01:06:05
I'm I'm really hoping that something just charging this says, Yo, uh, you know, this is it.
01:06:12
I really got it.
01:06:13
I really got to go out there and get it.
01:06:14
It's got have a chip on the shoulder.
01:06:16
Yeah, you know, And you know he might need I don't know.
01:06:21
I mean, I guess you say that about every player, But maybe Tom Citadel can reach him.
01:06:26
I don't know.
01:06:27
It's gonna be hard to say.
01:06:28
I do think Dennis Smith Jr could be a really good defender if he wants to.
01:06:33
This times why I've seen him defend when he's really motivated.
01:06:39
Like when he's going up against it.
01:06:40
The air on Fox, you know, saying Hey, kids get really motivated and really play and really play defense.
01:06:49
It was just, you know, can't came someone like Tom Thibodeau.
01:06:52
Get him to do it all the time.
01:06:53
As far as Elfrid Payton.
01:06:54
Yeah, he plays defense.
01:06:56
Naturally, Um, I don't know if he's ever going to be a good shooter.
01:07:00
Dennis Miller Jr wasn't really a good shooter, either.
01:07:03
Uh, who ever worked with him over the summer? I think maybe shot a little bit worse, but oh, smart.
01:07:11
He's smart.
01:07:12
Yeah, that's right.
01:07:13
Keith Smart made a terrible beds.
01:07:19
Well, e don't know what tactics Keith Smart use makers came back.
01:07:28
Whatever you do.
01:07:29
Yeah, Dennis Jr.
01:07:31
Thinking you could shoot E.
01:07:37
I think that was the strategy.
01:07:38
I'm just get to believe work, right? That was that right? I'm I'm put it like this when it comes down to it now for like, a lot of these coaches, they get over based on the talent of the players, and that's that's not maybe so.
01:07:54
I'm really not excited about them bringing tips in here and show me nothing.
01:07:58
You got the Minnesota any trying to get the band back together.
01:08:01
It didn't work.
01:08:02
And now he's gonna come over here.
01:08:04
And he's still riding off for the success he had when he had a potentially game changing player when he had Derrick Brooks.
01:08:12
His entire career is built off with Derrick Rose and Jimmy Butler.
01:08:17
Oh, you know, after Rose's declined, gave him that amalgamation of players made to will look like this amazing coach.
01:08:25
And I'm still not convinced that he's really that amazing of a coach.
01:08:29
E.
01:08:30
Feel like these guys get lucky, Get players that can execute, and it makes it easier.
01:08:34
When I was telling, oddly enough, I was telling my wife yesterday.
01:08:38
Steve Kerr is a prime example of this phenomenon.
01:08:41
He came into a team that had talent out the wise do, and he wrote it to three championship.
01:08:47
Ah, Coach of the Year award.
01:08:48
Right now it's OK.
01:08:50
You look at going to state this year and it's like what happened and everyone's like over there who got hurt and everybody's this And it was that.
01:08:57
Okay, those of the points when the coach, if you're the coach of the year, if you are the best coach in the league, you're supposed to be able to say O K, fellas, this is what we're gonna do and coach these guys to a winning record.
01:09:09
You They had enough talent to be at least watchable.
01:09:14
They weren't even watchable.
01:09:16
So what? What? Where is the real value these guys, The players got a wanted man, and that's really what it boils down to.
01:09:23
So big.
01:09:24
Bring tubes and merry men in here and it will make a difference if r.
01:09:28
J.
01:09:29
Barrett there's a competitive Mitchell ravenous Proxim.
01:09:31
That's I'm it.
01:09:33
Now it's I definitely agree because, you know, even looking at just looking at so many coaches, we always thought we talked about this last night a little bit.
01:09:40
We always talk about, you know, this coach work, this player, Johannes Luca and those guys going to develop and become great anyway, you know, this is the final hopes that took the guy, you know.
01:09:52
He was the 15th man on the bench and helped him become a rotational player.
01:09:57
Exact.
01:09:58
That's the guy that you know, could really quick, like Miller, you know, And I you know, and I think Mike Miller is definitely going to be on the staff.
01:10:08
I don't think that I think Tom Thibodeau is going to be the coach.
01:10:11
He's definitely going to be on the staff now.
01:10:13
We'll see how much you know what it is they needed to give my noted that job.
01:10:22
He deserved it.
01:10:24
He was the coach.
01:10:25
We need culture, any planets and and he might listen to.
01:10:31
They bring it stop. Thibodeau.
01:10:33
I know he has a relationship with World Wide West in Leon roles.
01:10:39
I could see it going sour.
01:10:40
And then Mike Miller stepping up getting the job.
01:10:42
Or unless they bring in Woodson to If they bring in a veteran coach like Woodson, the name I elevate Watson.
01:10:48
But if it's Mike Miller, I could see him step.
01:10:53
You know, him being there, waiting in the wings t step up and get that job.
01:10:59
But I definitely think it's going to be at least part of the coaching staff, you know? Yeah, actually that Yeah, I e you know, Hey, you know, I don't I don't disagree.
01:11:13
I, you know, I would have had no problems if Mike Miller would have been hired as the head coach.
01:11:18
I think that is in reality, that is the best move.
01:11:21
Our team? Yeah, they think I was gonna happen, but it really is the best move.
01:11:27
We need a uncertain and coach that is familiar with the players that that knows how to develop them.
01:11:33
And he has proven.
01:11:34
See, the thing is You've got to remember that Mike Miller coached at small schools.
01:11:39
He coached in the G League, and these are all players, places where the players, you get players, you get right, you have to work with you.
01:11:47
But you get.
01:11:48
It's not like coaching in the NBA.
01:11:49
Players are moving around constantly.
01:11:51
You give me what you get and you deal with it.
01:11:53
And he proved that he was able to take that and be successful not only in winning games but in getting the players to be better.
01:12:00
So I don't even understand why they waste time talking anyone else.
01:12:04
It became in and showed that he could win with the BS.
01:12:07
Roger and they put together he actually had is looking like some kind of a team fugitive.
01:12:15
Last 17 games where we 89 or 19 8 in the last 17 games, something like that like that.
01:12:21
I watched last 17 games so many times that they just go toe to the last games.
01:12:28
I think you still got a kind of about like four or five games when we definitely saw someone from the for office say something to Miller to play some other guys as we saw crazy rotations in the last couple of games.
01:12:42
I remember.
01:12:43
She's okay.
01:12:44
He had a central station, and we know we're having a pair of, you know, looking team on the court.
01:12:50
And then just like no.
01:12:52
45 games before cold it happened.
01:12:55
And it was I was like, Why is he changing? You know, dissertation or putting this guy with these guys, and I'm like, That's crazy.
01:13:04
But, you know, I think that there was some pressure from the front office then.
01:13:07
No, it just just just changing.
01:13:09
Maybe, you know, for someone you know, stumbled off the the the guy for trade or something like that.
01:13:17
God, Yeah.
01:13:18
And that that definitely could.
01:13:20
Oh, yeah, I know.
01:13:31
I had to come in because he was talking crazy.
01:13:37
I was at work.
01:13:38
I was What? Glenn didn't.
01:13:40
They said it was that crazy, horrible critics.
01:13:46
It was a weapon prediction.
01:13:48
Hey, say what? You know what is your ideal off season? That's not a prediction, Hypotheticals, But this is my Richman.
01:13:58
You know, I saw what I What's your ideal offseason? Johannes Michael Jordan and not great.
01:14:09
So 80 man, meet Amy gonna have a great show.
01:14:13
Old man is gonna be so we hear this every single week way.
01:14:21
Think meeting you have a great show is gonna be amazing.
01:14:28
Man is gonna be the Andy and I sing it so and you tell me you didn't really agree to this todo move my desk around the rooms like I'm like, man, did you already signed the contract? You know, you already signed.
01:14:47
He's on death records, but but to me, a realistic thing.
01:14:57
This is assuming that time Thibodeau's to coach.
01:14:59
So simple.
01:15:00
Time cools approach.
01:15:02
What's your policies? Yeah.
01:15:04
So, to me, Kenny wouldn't take a It's just a coaching job because I think, let's say, if the king on on both fire either, whatever I do what I do today from Chicago or if they find him, which looks like it's most likely, uh, hey, look, I think many would take That's up.
01:15:26
I don't leave the coach.
01:15:28
I'm like, I was saying last night on the show if we don't really know that many offensive go rooms to the assistant coach.
01:15:36
But I know like we talked about the last night about it being I know, I know.
01:15:39
Last time I talked about it.
01:15:40
Trump number has to be the, uh, final voice, but I would like that that control some good offensive schemes like, you know, but like a like a like a like a six winner, Right? The text winters.
01:15:54
But that guy from Chicago, Chris Fleming, is supposed to be an offensive architect.
01:16:00
Sports is supposed to be that kind of a guy.
01:16:04
So let's say we get a guy like Dad.
01:16:05
This is the head coach.
01:16:07
I would still would want Mike Woodson to be on the coach.
01:16:11
Oh, and another thing is, we get the Spurs shooting Coats.
01:16:17
I would really want that guy to be a shooting coach with the Knicks.
01:16:21
Have you figured out that guy's name yet? He said that I had a job like I was just trying to figure out who they dio needed.
01:16:32
Uh, hey, Andy, what about you, man? What? We'll go.
01:16:44
We'll take a break from Isaiah's Ideo Dio season.
01:16:51
Oh, for me, man, we gotta figure out the point guard situation order.
01:16:56
We're gonna know draft a guy which I think with me.
01:17:00
It's not the best idea.
01:17:03
I think we're going to need a better point guard here.
01:17:06
And this is the place where we would have to trade for one.
01:17:11
No, like Quiz Bowl or we would have to sign a guy.
01:17:16
But the only guy that I see maybe on the point guard list that would have any sense as a sign of the free agent actually might be friend Brantly because he has the championship, he might have No, the respect, the command for the guys, Um, order than that.
01:17:36
I don't see assigning the guy like a late bent, right? Like a 14 15 year old bed to be our starting point parks in the current endia.
01:17:46
As long as you know the other positions go.
01:17:48
You can ride a guy like that for a couple of minutes on the court.
01:17:51
I don't think you've been signed a guy like Rajan around it could be your starting point talk.
01:17:56
You know what, This these days, no, away from me.
01:17:59
And that's why I don't feel the lamentable connection when we're gonna sign this.
01:18:06
I would be afraid about that unless we're gonna sign a huge shooting guard that can take sometimes their responsibilities of a point guard, which could be also like a guy like true holiday.
01:18:19
But we would have to trade for a guy like that, that will be one of the, you know, good guys that, you know, I would try to go after, Um I'm also not sure about baby.
01:18:31
Been trying trance off.
01:18:33
You know, with this, unless we are moving knocks for me and Dave's eyes, those are gonna be basically the same guys they can play on offense.
01:18:46
Not much on defense, No bullfight kind of young because I don't think you can, you know, call sign bear trances as another pent.
01:18:55
Guess he's 20 couple of years old.
01:18:58
Um, also, I think he's gonna try to push for Gibson to stay with Mitch or sign.
01:19:07
You know, a guy like you 100 orders that they're signing for us, and I would like him back, but I think he's gonna push for four times to stay.
01:19:18
And that aspect also, I would see they're looking for an assistant where we can go back to the assistant coaches for a guy like a Tony Allen type, that guy that played defense like we have royal, I'd be right on the coaching squad.
01:19:33
He was a player, but he was no completely five or six years and then be right.
01:19:37
So I don't think the guys are going to look up to a guy that much.
01:19:42
You know, comparing that will be in something, you know, way different than than the Royal Ivey.
01:19:49
And I think this is gonna have a former player on his assistant squad.
01:19:54
E think that's that's the most for for tips as well.
01:19:58
Yes, you know, with the guys, I don't know.
01:20:01
I think we're gonna, as you know, stay in and keep Bullock on the team and Dodge.
01:20:07
I think that's going to get a couple of minutes of burn with Tibbs.
01:20:12
And that might be also the same project that, like Randall, right? If he's done, you know, And I was gonna be no huge.
01:20:20
If it's not gonna ban out, it's gonna be a disaster.
01:20:23
And we're gonna Barry, no Knox's career or just gonna have to trade and really fast, Right? And I think with Julius Randle, um, I'm all for giving him into giving it until the trade deadline.
01:20:39
Right? You know, see if it's gonna pan out, see if they can, you know, if they can.
01:20:44
You know carom is his skills and use it the right way.
01:20:49
Um, you know, find a way to carve out that's been moved.
01:20:56
You know, if you can find a way to carve out that spin move, you know, maybe someone told lobotomy.
01:21:01
You know, man, you know about that with that spin move is like, he practiced and practiced and practiced it, right? And so then it came, but he would use it.
01:21:10
There were times when I'm looking.
01:21:12
I'm like, Okay, you had to spend to the baseline.
01:21:14
Now you can spend you gotta open layup, right? He used to spend at all the wrong time that I was like, you know? So, you know, maybe they find a way to get that thing out of his repertoire.
01:21:26
You know, I don't know why that happened, because he was practicing one on one the whole off season, man.
01:21:31
Right? Right.
01:21:32
Then eight more guys on the court and that's not Boston to do.
01:21:35
You know how blame for him have been ridiculously the signature spin turnover? I blame Anthony Davis.
01:21:43
Anthony Davis.
01:21:45
I blame Anthony Davis because he does that.
01:21:48
Correct, Because he spent all the time next.
01:21:50
Anthony Davis and I saw situation was just like, Well, when he was just saying he pregnant.
01:21:55
He does.
01:21:56
He used to do that in doing these, but it worked with one defender.
01:22:00
Try that in New York, and he's got all the designers.
01:22:02
Right, Right, right, right. Yeah.
01:22:05
Yeah.
01:22:06
But, um yeah, I think so.
01:22:10
Yeah.
01:22:11
I'd give it to, you know, give it to the deadline.
01:22:13
If it's working and you say OK, you know, we can make this work.
01:22:16
If not, then that would be the perfect time to trade him.
01:22:19
Because if you trade on, the team can choose to, you know, wave from June of 2021 they could choose the wave them get from under his contract.
01:22:30
Could that be the perfect time to move on first for something else.
01:22:34
But if it works and you're like, you know what, you know this is working.
01:22:38
You know that it's working.
01:22:39
I do. I agree.
01:22:41
I think I know.
01:22:42
You know, we're all on point guards in the draft, and I don't mind getting a point guard, but I really feel like if you're gonna have Tom Thibodeau, you should have a veteran point guard out there that's going to be able to run.
01:22:54
If you're gonna have time sipping on Julius Randle in a veteran point guard, that's gonna help you run the ship, then you know, I wouldn't mind.
01:23:03
I really wouldn't.
01:23:04
I really would not Mind if you had a veteran point guard like a Chris Paul? Oh, whoever.
01:23:12
I don't know who else is out there that you can get that, you know, maybe it's cheaper.
01:23:16
I mean, obviously with Chris, Paul, you got to trade forward or whatever.
01:23:19
But if you have a veteran point guard and you can get a Carol Lewis Acidic Bay and the draft, I would be happy with that.
01:23:26
Because then you got your veteran.
01:23:27
You've got a young guy.
01:23:28
The hopefully you're grooming to take that veteran role you got.
01:23:31
Ah, a guy that can, you know, play the three that you can play some defense.
01:23:38
He can bang a little bit.
01:23:39
He can shoot the three, you know, spread the Florence at bay.
01:23:43
Ah, and then I know all season, you know, picking up If you found your veteran point guard and then picking up players that can shoot and play defense.
01:23:54
Like shooting.
01:23:56
If you could still have Julius Randle and Mitch at that four in five, shooting from other areas is going to be so, so critical.
01:24:04
You mean, like consistent shooting? Not guys that well, you know, he can almost make it.
01:24:09
You know, he might be there in a couple of years.
01:24:10
Like, if you want to be, um you know, at least competitive next year, guys, that can shoot.
01:24:17
And you can find these guys without a lot of money.
01:24:19
Right? Fine.
01:24:20
You know, some guys around him that can shoot the ball, You know, I'd be happy with that.
01:24:25
I'll be happy with it.
01:24:28
Look, guys, and I say I'm sorry.
01:24:31
Verizon took over.
01:24:32
Hey, what was going on? Teoh? No, no.
01:24:36
You like you Wait, Wait, That's good.
01:24:41
That's good. Customer service.
01:24:43
You have good customer service. That's okay.
01:24:45
No one young like I don't want talk about it, But I gotta head off now.
01:24:53
But I just got I just minutes what I wanted to say Bad ahead off.
01:24:57
You got a good on the on the Isaiah and Andy Show.
01:25:00
Hey, I like that a little.
01:25:02
A little white.
01:25:03
That's an anti show because I really gotta head off.
01:25:06
I got another way to Tokyo.
01:25:08
Number handy? Yeah, maybe.
01:25:12
Yeah, way.
01:25:23
But I'm gonna say this week Loved.
01:25:25
I'm going on Sunday talking about Arjun Barrett and they disrespected he's getting and how he's gonna be a future superstar Six oclock on Sunday 600 they all sportscast everybody.
01:25:40
But if we have a coach I know since that he's gonna go and we find out the Colts Little big bro.
01:25:48
Hey, it is a gentleman, man.
01:25:54
I gotta go get to this next me and I appreciate you guys particular time out today.
01:25:59
Safe man.
01:26:00
Have a great weekend.
01:26:01
And if we get a coaching higher than I would jump on it.
01:26:04
Talk about man way beyond six.
01:26:09
I will see you guys later on.
01:26:16
Be peaceful.
01:26:17
And I am out here

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